>13 year old brother i haven't seen in two years came

That's your brother, man. Shame on you.

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>>38109757
>punching a child in the gut

>>38109757
Gay or not he's still your brother.

Unless he's gonna act like a faggot because he's gay, then i understand you, but you don't have to be a fag just because you're gay.

Be a better role model for him

>brother comes out as gay
>rather than trying to help him feel less bi-curious or just to ignore him
>punch him in the gut, so he cries

good job anon

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lol that's kinda funny

Why haven't you seen him in two years?

>>38109757
Punching your brother a small child over this.

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>>38109757
please kill yourself my man
cadfcdz

>>38109757
13 seems reasonable, that's roughly the age everyone becomes aware of sexuality

>>38109757
I know right. Your brother is probably bi-curious rather than homosexual. 13 year olds have no understanding of their sexuality.

>>38109757
Good job anon. The faggot deserved a beating. Ignore the faggots below.

>>38109929
So a grow man punching him is ok because hes probably bi curious?

>not slowly but effectively bullying him behind your parents back until he eventually kills himself

Shame on you, OP.

>>38109757
You did all the right things when it comes to your brother.

>>38109757
>chimp out on your own family because your brother has a different opinion

>>38109757
God I wish I could hold you down and shoot a poz load into you

>>38109757

Your little brother will cut his dick off and be a tranny soon.

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>all these fag posters

wow all the tranny and boipussy threads really took their toll

>>38109757
You are a fucking piece of shit OP and you sound like you are in the closet yourself and are jealous of your brother for having the guts to come out, unlike you. Your family is better off without you, they made the right choice telling you to never come back.

>>38109757
no panch brother
no

>>38109757
I came out years ago at 12, you're a fucking retarded mong dude

well OP is either trying to bait or being incredibly stupid.

>>38109757

youre a good guy and you probably did the best thing anyone could have done for him.

>>38110029
A lot of summerfags and redditors lately around, disgusting. How i wish it was winter...
>>38109757
I understand your anger, but you should've searched another effective way to make him normal, like "redpill" him to say it some way. Now his parents are gonna be like "bee yourself" more than ever.

>>38109863
Faggots aren't people.

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>>38110153
Wahahaahahhahahaha!! Faggots BTFO!!! How will they ever recover?? #maga

That's screwed up OP.

>>38109757
>Fuck this gay earth and what it did to my little brother
Yea, the earth really fucked up when it gave him you as an older brother.

I'm not sure what you were trying to accomplish, either. The progressive left has been a thing for a while now, so you should know how much they, especially the LGBT section, feed off of their oppression narrative. Plus, at that age kids are still fairly impressionable, so it's possible he'll associate masculinity with people who punch him in the stomach and become an even bigger faggot in trying to avoid being masculine. Either way he'll probably just double down, so you haven't accomplished anything aside from looking like an asshole. I don't think you thought this through very well.

>>38110187
haHA /pol/ redpills everyone praise kek. Fucking degenerates aren't people and I am of the white master race!

OP did good work

all faggots need to die

>>38110235
yeah praise kek my brother no faggots in kekistan

> /pol/ addicted jerk
> beat relatives because they're different
Yeah, it's like 1917's right now, huh?

I know you're trolling, and frankly I hope you're trolling.

>>38109757

Man I hope that actually happened

>>38109757
Shouldve fucked the gay out of his ass

>>38110260

If my little brother was gay I would have choke slammed him back into 1917

>>38110328
i know these degenerates wouldn't last a day in kekistan

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>>38110235
>>38110246
>>38110338
>>38110354
>>38110358
That's right guys!! Homosexuals are degenerates!! Haha you sure told them!!

B T F O
T
F
O

I'm laughing my ass off over here! Praise kek!!!

>>38110354
good make sure to redpill him when he finally comes around

>>38109757
>Fuck this gay earth and what it did to my little brother

Just so you know where you need to direct your anger, Jews did this to him.

>>38109902
I work overseas.

>>38110365
Why are you so assblasted?

>>38110124
>/pol/ poster complaining about summer posters
Do you want to be the pot or the kettle?

>>38110457
you did the right thing praise kek
>>38110484
hes just a libcuck trying to project on us its more likely he looks that way than us

>>38109757
>caring enough about your brother enough to get angered by his life choices

lel. Pleb. I don't give a fuck about my little sister. She could be having sex with dogs for all I care.

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>>38110484
>>38110506
Definitely a libcuck. Liberals will never know little girl love like us. #maga

All the faggots and normies in this thread saying that 13 is a "normal" age to come out: no, it fucking isn't.

Sexual orientation is a myth.

We have penises for a reason. We were evolved/designed to procreate. Stop defending people's delusions. If the kid wants to stick his dick in guys too, okay, but there is no such thing as "gay".

Just to clarify, i didin't punch him hard, he was crying more over the fact that i'm not accepting it.

>>38110593
stop pretending to be one of us you degenerate

>>38110606
go back there and beat the degeneracy out of him and redpill your parents

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>>38109757
Good job. Knock some sense into the faggot you have as a brother.

>>38110606
>Not punching your brother hard enough
I don't think your little brother is the only faggot in the family.

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>"dude! redpill!"
>"dude! day of the rope!!"
>"dude! fuck my family if they don't follow my political opinion!"

I never thought I'd see the day when bronies would be replaced as the most annoying little faggots on the internet.

>>38111092
>bronies
Bronies hardly exist anymore. Try harder to fit in, faggot redditor

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>>38111156
>missing the point completely

Are you fucking mentally challenged?

Just because they're rare to come across nowadays doesn't mean they never existed in the first place, look back at around 2012, where you constantly saw bronies constantly talking about their garbage show and opinions.

It's the same shit nowadays but with /pol/ users instead, but at least I knew bronies would never recreate and they would die out, can't say the same for the modern day "ubermensch" who will fuck some 500 pound redneck woman and end up having a few snaggle-tooth down-syndrome children.

i find it weird for a 13 year old find if his gay or not...meh if they know early at that age.

>>38109757
I hope you get charged with the assault of a minor, and get fucked by Tyrone in prison.

I'd do the same to be honest, good on you.

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>all the anally ruptured little fairies in this thread
I thought you guys were into that stuff?
Just came to say that OP didn't neccessarily do anything wrong, he just doesn't like that his brother is gay. Besides, he's some stupid kid anyway, they don't even know about any shit like that, and I hate people that are all like "WE GOTTA SUPPORT HIM, HE'S JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE", I can't believe retards still think like that, it's not like it's the fucking 50s where they shot fags, no one gives a fuck if some chucklefuckhead kid thinks he likes dick, and if he does, fuckin' whatever as long as he acts like a decent human being and doesn't run around like some fuckin prancing princess screecing about "muh pride". Keep that shit to yourself, nobody gives a fuck. I don't walk around talking about how straight I am, I mind my own fucking business, and if you annoy people about your love for cocks, then you deserve to be discriminated against, because no one asked, no one cares, and it's annoying. Liking cock isn't a trait, stop acting like you're defined by your cock gobbling.
tl;dr y'all in this thread some tumblrite ass crybabies

>>38111092
I've hated the alt right since conception and I think the Holocaust is a hoax. It's the new anonymous and just as cringe

You should have killed him anon, for his own sake.

>omg you can't be mean to your brother DX he's a super special little gayboy!
why are queers so entitled?

when did r9k become an aspergers containment board?
the gays are literally the only good posters left

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A punch to the gut is too light a punishment for being an attention-whore.

>>38111811
shut up you fucking libcuck faggot

>>38111811
t. gheyboi

>>38111816
exactly day of the rope when?

>>38111716
>as long as he acts like a decent human being and doesn't run around like some fuckin prancing princess screecing about "muh pride". Keep that shit to yourself, nobody gives a fuck. I don't walk around talking about how straight I am, I mind my own fucking business, and if you annoy people about your love for cocks, then you deserve to be discriminated against, because no one asked, no one cares, and it's annoying. Liking cock isn't a trait, stop acting like you're defined by your cock gobbling.

WHY CAN'T THE WHOLE FUCKING WORLD UNDERSTAND THIS

Or hell, at least /lgbt/

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>punching children
>punching family
>punching the innocent
>punching innocent child who happens to be your family
die you fucking degenerate swine

>Punch a child in the gut because he's gonna go out and fuck guys when he's older away from the vicinity of you, probably not in the same house as you
>Risk getting disowned by family all because of that
>Thinks he's not being a child

>>38109757
>>punch him in the gut
>>faggot's holding his tears in
>>mom yelling
>>dad saying he's going to make me sorry
Good sounds like you need some real men in your life and not some nigger kikes.

>>38110029
Fuck yeah man gas the kike gas the fags and gas the niggers.

Funnily enough this happened in January or February or so
>16 year old sister
>She comes out as lesbian
>Do you accept me?
>Yes
>Cool
>Literally everythings been the same since then
>Didn't punch her in the gut because I'm not a manchild
>Everything continues on

Smash his boypussy desu

>>38111924
fucking libcuck why didn't you make her pay for her degeneracy?

>>38110606
If That person (he aint yer kin) was at least bi I would tolerate it...But a fags a fag.
Never go around your family they are dead weight.

>>38111954
Because it doesnt affect me. Me and my sister don't talk much but I don't talk much to anyone.
And yeah she's alright I guess.

>>38111092
POL AND R9K are a crossover also r9k is a b 2.0 so good going new faggot.
Fucking numale nigger kike

>>38111985
You just think it's alright that she is a degenerate?

I like how your dad said he was going to make you sorry but he gave you a reward instead.

>>38112012
Sure. Doesn't affect me, its her life.

>>38111849
I literally don't know any gays like this. I know there are some, but majority are just normal.

>>38112012
>>38112022
Like I said, everything's just went on as usual since then really.

>>38112022
You're fucking disgusting it's not normal don't let her think it is. It's not ok to be gay.

>>38112011
can't tell if bait

>>38112025
there are fuckloads like that now that being a homo is being blown out of proportion by homos instead of non homos, which effectively make people hate gays even more because it's obnoxious shittery, you don't have to know them for them to exist

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>>38111866
The nigger faggot is old enough to take dick and decide his sexuality but hes a child?
Ok nigger?

>>38112071
Thats your opinion I guess. Again doesn't affect me, she's cool with it, she's an alright person and everythings went on as usual Not so bad really.

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>>38112076
Its not pol and r9k is a cross over board and r9k is b 2.0
OK women?

>>38112071
It's not okay to be on 4chan. We're all here because we're fucked up. On /r9k/ no less.

Hey.. at least it was 13 (I'm assuming he didn't just have a birthday recently). Any younger and I think you'd have to assume there was some abuse or indoctrinating going on. But he's objectively a little ways into his puberty. Still he's only just discovering what he likes. He probably got a stiffy while exploring some weird videos, so at most he's bi curious.

That said the parents should NOT be encouraging this. I'd say the same if he was straight. Parents shouldn't interfere with their child's life when they're discovering sex abd porn and the like.

>>38111817
He's right though, you're just a parody of yourself at this point.

>>38112119
parents shouldn't interfere but grown ass men cam punch him in the stomach nbd

>>38110260
What's it like being on the wrong side of history, mr. egalitarian?

>>38112085
I also dislike faggotry in general but punching a child for no good reason (ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE YOUR FAMILY) is crossing the line. That's just fucked dude.

>>38112076
>you don't have to know them for them to exist
Yeah but to get butt blasted over them I'd something else. Like if the most outrageous, flamboyant, gay as a 3 dollar bill faglord exists out there I'll run into him maybe once or twice in my life. The rest of the gays are just normal as shit.

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>>38112119
>just let your son go and fuck every other 13-14 year old girl/let your daughter get fucked by every other 13-14 year old guy and get pregnant because they're just discovering sex

>>38111985
>>38112022
>>38112097
>it doesn't affect me
It does, though. It affects everyone.

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>>38109757
Even though this is Tumblr levels of fake and obviously bait, you should still kill yourself, OP, you colossal faggot.

>>38112104
/bant/ is /b/ 2.0, retard. /pol/ is /news/ gone wrong and was turned into a containment zone.
/r9k/ is kinda just /r9k/, but redditor /b/ tryhard faggotry is infecting the entirety of the site and it's pretty gay.
Now fuck off, no one likes namefags.
And you're specifically an obnoxious faggot.

>>38112185
That's like saying this post I'm typing right now affects everyone

>>38112185
No, it doesn't, you fucking loser.

>>38112185
If you get butthurt over it then sure. I mean again, your opinion and you're entitled to it but trust me, shit gets easier when you let stuff slide.

>>38110016
I wish I could round you and all the other massive faggots up and shoot a poz load of nitrite fertilizer and orange juice into you.

>>38112212
It does, but it's benign. Homosexuality (and the encouragement thereof) is not benign. Sexual deviance precedes the fall of every empire; it shows a disconnect between the act of sex and the act of reproduction.

>>38112229
I would accept that fate only after pozing you up with the gift that keeps on giving

>>38112243
>Sexual deviance precedes the fall of every empire; it shows a disconnect between the act of sex and the act of reproduction.

Armchair philosopher, it's time to go back. You know where you belong.

>>38112220
It does. Everyone is a part of society, we are not atomized individuals.

>>38112222
>shit gets easier when you let stuff slide.
I'm sure it does. Tolerance (a.k.a. apathy) is very easy.

>>38112243
Oh well. Lifes fucked anyways so. We can just clone or some shit. Maybe I'm apathetic but population doesn't bother me.

op you have literally done NOTHING WRONG

being a faggot is absolutely wrong and you made the right decision by punishing the young little fucking faggot. you need to redpill him on why being gay is bad and turn him straight. do not let this slide

>>38110153
I agree with such a statement. Certainly don't deserve basic rights, and should be banned from all public display of homosexuality. As a military dictator, obviously have them killed.
The gay's stronghold on the youth makes me ill.

>>38112258
I belong right here, fag enabler.

>>38112263
Yep, it is. I find myself a lot less jaded and also a lot less angry from it. I find myself enjoying things more and feeling less annoyed.

>>38112274
>Lifes fucked anyways so.
"Life" consists of people like you and I, doing the things we do. If it's fucked, it's because people like you are lazy and can't be bothered to run a functioning society.

>>38110246
Subversive shill shows up. Nice D&C technique

>>38112258
stop being a degenerate its time for you to go back to tumblr

>>38112322
Not them but what's wrong with kekistan?

>tfw 25
>I've been attracted to males since I was 13
>still attracted to males
>decide to come to terms with the fact that I'm probably gay
>just recently came out to a handful of people last month

Are you gonna punch me in the stomach OP? Trust me, if I had a choice I would have chosen to be sexually attracted to women, but that's not what happened.

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>>38112288
You have to go back.
Originola

>>38112352
The whole "kekistan" phenomenon is essentially basic bitch liberals calling themselves right-wing to be edgy. It's incoherent reddit-tier nonsense. They love niggers and will never name the Jew.

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>>38112011
>these are the same people that go on about blacks being "low iq raging apes"

>>38112405
I hate kikes and niggers and I don't mind the whole kekistan meme.

>>38112424
>a person saying words changes statistics
wow you really btfo my almonds top zozzle i'm a transcoon now

>>38112353
In another time and place your attraction would have been properly recognized as a condition which could be treated with therapy. But alas, we no longer live in that world.

>>38109902
Lol I doubt that the guy that made that picture, and all of the retards that post it, have studied anything. Ever. Looking at webms posted by /pol/tards with the worst of the worst of society and then claiming to know everything about society is fucking ridiculous. And those statistics don't mean shit either.

>>38112492
>Caring this much about who somebody wants to fuck
One day you're going to realize that life is short and meaningless, and nothing you did in it makes any contribution to anything important.

>>38112523
>life is short and meaningless
Nice postmodernism, congratulations on your poisoned brain. Life is infinite and meaningful.

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Maybe next time you should punch his boipucci with your thick, musky cock

>>38112534
>buzzword boogieman
What's infinite about it, do you consider 80 years infinity?
What's meaningful about it?

>>38112243
>it does

How does this post affect the slum worker in china who is sitting on the step in the back of his cat meat restaurant?

I'd punch him in the gut as well.

At the very least he would know not to act like a fucking faggot around me.

Sure, whatever, take dick and play co-op games with ya boy, but don't suddenly change the way you talk, dress, act and go all SJW just because you love the D.

>>38112534
That isn't post-modernism, that's nihilism there's nothing post-modern about it.

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>a pubescent boy uncovers his own sexuality
HOW DID THIS FUCKING HAPPEN WHAT THE FUCK

FUCK THIS GAY EARTH

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK, REEEEEEEEEEEE

http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1499045653945.webm

>>38112567
Life extends beyond your own. Meaning is inherent to conscious experience.

>>38112603
But by your logic there was literally no indication that he changed the way he talked, dressed, or acted.

What point are you trying to make? I know you're just being edgy for the sake of being edgy because you're on 4chan but i'll humor you

>>38109863
If the fist went up his ass he probably wouldn't mind

You're a serious piece of shit even for a homophobe. Hope you get time, faggot.

>>38112647
Exactly fucking faggot deserved it praise kek my brother

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haha who the fuck cares?

You're on the /r9k/ board of 4chan. you're a KHV just like the rest of us

>>38112171
I don't remember ever saying that. But if I did let me rephrase. Parents (at least 1st world parents non demoninational or even athiest parents) shouldn't acknowledge that their kid is starting to get the hots for a person, whether it be the same gender or not.
I'm assuming OP's parents are straight and still married. The only thing a parent or a parental figure of the same gender as the kid should do, in these situations is tell the kid that "You're body is developing. You will start to have feelings for other people."

>>38112645
>literally
>using useless filler words to make yourself appear more intelligent

Faggot kike

>not understanding hypotheticals and rhetoric

An autistic faggot kike.

>>38112631
>Life extends beyond your own
And you think it's going to stay that way forever, you think the earth will go on and on indefinitely? Anybody who's life you positively impact before you die will also die. It's a never ending cycle, stop deluding yourself into believing that you're achieving anything beyond your own subjective meaningless goals.
>Meaning is inherent to conscious experience.
Subjetive meaning is purely subjetive and not objective, there is no objective goal to life, morality is subjetive - which is why you're whining about a gay 13-year-old when nobody else in the world seems to care - and that's one of the few absolutes.

>>38112756
>meaning is subjective so stop believing in your own subjective meaning
Why?

>>38112622
>Led that man to god right there
kek

>>38112689
>parents shouldn't acknowledge that they're kids are developing sexual urges for others

So, you're saying that kids shouldn't know what sex is? They shouldn't know what the possible consequences are either? Who the fuck are they going to learn this from if not their parents?

That weird kid in school who says he fingerblasted 5 different girls?

>>38112734
You had no actual counterargument. And your statement wasn't hypothetical at all. You're the only one here using filler words to make yourself appear more intelligent. You don't even know the definition of the words you're using.

There was no indication in OPs post that anything had changed other than the kid letting his family know something about himself.

Might as well punch someone in the stomach because they told you they enjoyed playing basketball or piano.

>>38112780
I didn't say stop believing in your subjective meaning, I said stop the grandiose delusion that your subjective meaning is an objective truth.

>>38110078
we don t care if your a natural mistake too faggot

>>38112829
Why? If there's no objective truth, what's stopping me from putting something subjective in its place? Meaning beats nihilism by force, not reason.

>>38112251
I would not like that at all

>>38112756
>Subjetive meaning is purely subjetive and not objective, there is no objective goal to life, morality is subjetive

Congratulations on following atheism to its logical conclusion. Now what's stopping you from killing yourself?

>>38112853
>Meaning beats nihilism by force, not reason
If you're capable of saying that without a hint of irony, then you're aware on some level that you're deluding yourself into believing something you want to be true, rather than something that is true. If nothing has an objective meaning, then your subjective meaning is irrelevant. the gay 13-year-old and yourself both have equal credibility to your beliefs, though neither are objectives.
If you acknowledge that life is inherently devoid of meaning, then you realize that being a NEET is no better or worse than being a rich tycoon, the only difference is your personal perception. Going as far as to assert that gays are problematic only stands as evidence towards you clinging onto some belief to make your life feel meaningful when in actuality, his faggotry is inconsequential to your life and everybody else's.

>>38109757
of the two of you, you definitely win for biggest faggot by a landslide

>>38112929
>Congratulations on following atheism to its logical conclusion. Now what's stopping you from killing yourself?
The way you word this implies that your belief in God is the only thing keeping you going.

>>38112941
There's no objective truth, so I can't be lying. What is true is what is enforceable.

>>38111716
Fucking this. Kid is stupid for bringing the topic on the table, and OP is even more retarded for being butthurted so hard over opinions his brother will probably change in a few years

>>38112996
I mean, if there's nothing beyond our limited human experience, the universe would seem pretty grim. If nihilism is true, what's the point of living? What's the point of even trying to be good, even? I'd rather be getting my rocks off with every cute girl I see, so why not take what I want by force? What's the point of compassion if we're all going to die soon anyway?

I'll take meaning that I can believe is subjective over meaninglessness or meaning that I know is only subjective.

>not seizing the opportunity to get some ripe bp
Hopefully they never speak to you again dumb /pol/shit.

I don't know who's worse the salty libcucks in this thread or the puritan anti-degenerate alt righters

>>38113081
*meaning that I can believe is objective

But I'm someone will see that typo as a freudian slip.

>>38112996
>your belief in God is the only thing keeping you going
Plenty of people have lived fulfilling lives this way.

>>38112817

I say exactly why I don't like fags in that they talk, dress and act differently for no reason other than to identify with being gay and then you ask what point I was trying to make?

Neck yourself SJW trash.

>>38113144
It's like both extremes decided to converge on this one thread

>>38113038
There are objective truths, I'm not going to branch out into metaphysics and questions like ''is anything real?'' ''is the glass half full of half empty?'' For the sake of this argument we'll both agree there is objectivity in the world, however, life lacks an objective meaning. What you do with your life and your own moral choices are purely your own, they're not factual the definitive choice.

>>38113081
>I'll take meaning that I can believe is subjective over meaninglessness or meaning that I know is only subjective.
I don't really have a problem with that, but personally, I can't do that. I would like to give myself something to believe, but Nihilism is more of a conclusion I reached a few years ago and haven't been able to find anything that proves my belief wrong, rather than a choice I consciously made.

>>38113183
>they're not factual the definitive choice.
They are if you force them on other people.

>>38109757
Bait thread.
You're a dickhead regardless.

>>38109757
If you're getting that angry over it, you're probably in denial. You should try sucking dick.

>>38113174
>I don't like fags in that they talk, dress and act differently for no reason other than to identify with being gay
That's a bit of a strawman. Lots of gay guys are estrogenic as fuck and naturally act and talk feminine

>le BASED anon showing cucked family how it is
#MAGA

>>38113183

>metaphysics is not philosophy

Just stop.

>>38113237
You're mixing up /pol/ and t_d.

>>38113183
I don't get this. I know the bar for evidence is pretty high, but I've seen even hardened skeptics convert after being convinced by Christian philosophers like William Lane Craig. Yet some people want to believe but seemingly can't be convinced.

Nihilism just seems like such a bleak, hopeless alternative to other worldviews. I hope you find something to anchor yourself to.

>>38113081
Not the other anon, but I'll also reply.
>I mean, if there's nothing beyond our limited human experience, the universe would seem pretty grim.
No, the universe is just the universe, it's only as grim as you decide to make it based on where you think yourself and us as a species should be.
>If nihilism is true, what's the point of living?
To live is the point of living, if you want the closest thing to an "objective" standpoint. Ultimately, though, whatever point or meaning to life there is whatever point or meaning you assign to it. To be a good father, a successful businessman, a dedicated worker, a brilliant pioneer, or a cunning entrepreneur. There are some people that find this idea of reality much more comforting, since their purpose and path in life is completely self determined, it's a great deal of freedom.
>What's the point of even trying to be good, even?
The concept of good is very relative to a society, and originates from what both benefits and creates the most harmony in a community. If there was a true objective good that existed beyond humans we wouldn't have debates about the morally correct age of consent, or under what circumstances we can murder someone. We would all just intrinsically know.
>I'd rather be getting my rocks off with every cute girl I see, so why not take what I want by force?
Because our society has decided that forcing your will on someone and robbing them of autonomy is an immoral act. You can do it, but you'll be considered immoral in this society and face the court. There are societies out there that don't consider it immoral.
>What's the point of compassion if we're all going to die soon anyway?
Just because there is no intrinsic purpose in life doesn't mean we cannot give our own purpose or value to life. We are pack animals, we are naturally guided to assisting each other and feeling good about it. If we'll all die and be gone, why shouldn't we make life enjoyable?

>>38113224

They put it on. Get one into a state of anger and suddenly they act and talk how regular people would.

>>38113256
>divide and conquer tactic
Not gonna work libcuck.

>>38113274
Look at this fucking nerd. Your ideology has no balls and it'll get steamrolled as soon as it faces any real opposition. Probably by Islam, soon enough.

>>38113205
It doesn't make them objective or factual, it just makes your subjective idea the prevailing belief in society. If by 'objective' you mean 'what is considered fact by the majority' then yes, but I'm speaking of objectivity in the literal sense; Something which is as universally true as grass being green.
>>38113239
I don't know what you mean by that. Metaphysics is philosophy, I'm just not getting into it because it isn't relevant.

>>38112622
>>a pubescent boy uncovers his own sexuality
This is where you are wrong. At 13, there is a largeg proportion of chances he isn t gay, and just assume he is because it s a "trending topic" and he want to be the cool boy at his school. It s way too soon to assume and labelize what you are. If his parents accept it, or at least dont emit doubt about it, he might actually have a hard time find his true sexuality later on (which might be gay tho). Put punching someone in the stomach isn t a proper way of doing anyways

>>38113305
>false-flagging
>lumping /pol/ in with r*ddit
Nice try, Schlomo.

>Brother is gay.
>OP still ends up being the fag in the family.
lol

>>38113308
>Look at this fucking nerd
Inferiority complex
>Your ideology has no balls and it'll get steamrolled as soon as it faces any real opposition. Probably by Islam
That doesn't make any sense, the whole concept of nihilism is that it lacks any ideology, it's void of it. One day you'll die and any value you put on Islam killing people will no longer matter to you.

>christfags ITT
How can anyone honestly be Christian in this day and age?
>pope washes rapefugee feet
>"b-but I'm not Catholic!!"
>protestant and evangelical churches sponsoring niggers from apefrica to come to the US all the time
What a cucked semetic sand religion. How sad. Say what you will about Islam but at least they are strong and don't take shit.

>>38109757
>your brother comes out
>so you break your own stuff
>and punch him
How did ISIS get on our internets?

>>38113335
>let's just chop out numbers in half because le reddit boogyman
>lol what a good tactic!

>>38113308
>Urrrga thr aka your belief have no killing or fiting why any person listen to u
>Belief haf to be fity and killy to beat other fity killy belief
>Need stroooonk stuf no hi thinkinnnn

>>38109757
/pol/ comments are cringeworthy

>praise kek
>for kekistan
>redpill

>>38113365
top fucking kek
>One day you'll die and any value you put on Islam killing people will no longer matter to you.
"once you're beheaded, you won't care about being beheaded"

enlightened nihilists, everyone

>>38113404
this, but unironically
the sword is mightier than the pen

>>38113413
>Missing the point this hard
>Brainlet
>R9K
No surprise there.

>>38113311
at thirteen I jacked off to what got me to cum and that's literally it

at the time it was vanilla amateur, pregnant/lactation videos, furry/toon, softcore, suicidegirls and beautifulagony.

basically literally whatever I could get my hands on, definitely shit that was not "cool" or "in" to be jackin it too. Sure, it calmed down and got more normal later on. But the only thing preventing me from jacking it to two dudes fucking going at each other like animals was that I wasn't into it, definitely not availability.

People are going to find what they're into. Fear that they're getting erections just so they can fit in is every bit as humorous as it is misplaced.

>>38113413
You can't disprove nihilism because you don't have the capacity to create a counter-argument against an absolute. Instead, you're tard-raging and getting upset, which is what happens when cognitive dissonance takes over. Kek

>>38113274
>The concept of good is very relative to a society, and originates from what both benefits and creates the most harmony in a community. If there was a true objective good that existed beyond humans we wouldn't have debates about the morally correct age of consent, or under what circumstances we can murder someone. We would all just intrinsically know.

You're equating social mores with objective morals. There are things that, regardless of the culture in which you were raised, seem inherently wrong, such as murder and theft. We can quibble on numbers, but the point for an age of consent is to protect children from sexual abuse, something that's generally considered bad no matter where you're from.

Murder is a legal definition. It describes the act of willfully killing someone for no justifiable reason. Killing itself is a much broader term, and I don't see many people arguing that there aren't perfectly justifiable reasons to kill.

>Because our society has decided that forcing your will on someone and robbing them of autonomy is an immoral act. You can do it, but you'll be considered immoral in this society and face the court. There are societies out there that don't consider it immoral.

Why has our society decided that? Again, if nihilism is true, I would be perfectly justified to go on a murder and rape spree if I were so inclined. At least with rape I am fulfilling my evolutionary purpose: to propagate my genes as widely as possible.

>Just because there is no intrinsic purpose in life doesn't mean we cannot give our own purpose or value to life. We are pack animals, we are naturally guided to assisting each other and feeling good about it. If we'll all die and be gone, why shouldn't we make life enjoyable?

My life could be just as enjoyable and 10 times as fun if I were to indulge in every vice imaginable. If nothing is objectively wrong and there is nothing beyond this life, why delude myself with fake meaning? That's why I'm not a nihilist.

>>38112229
what happens when you mix nitrite fertilizer and orange juice?

>>38113514
no need to disprove an ideology, just get rid of all the believers
this is literally how it works

>>38113553
>Literally
Stop using this word like this.
>no need to disprove an ideology, just get rid of all the believers
Unlike a religion which needs to be passed on and taught, nihilism is just a logical thought process that anybody can reach from thinking about life too deeply. Nihilists existed before you were born and they'll exist after you die; That's just how it is.

>>38113514
You can't prove nihilism because you don't have the capacity to prove it IS an absolute.

>>38113609
>Nihilists existed before you were born and they'll exist after you die
in irrelevant numbers, circlejerking each other

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>>38113609
>fighting nihilism is, like, meaningless man
wow really activates my almonds

>>38113499
I know a full gey /lgbt/ queer trash-tier dude that "only" started to be actively gay at 15 man. I definitely think that 13 is too young to really know what you are into. We re not speaking about this kid's fantasies, or what he s jacking off to. We re talking about labelizing him as "gay" even before he can fully understand the meaning and impact it will have on is life.

>>38113609
>religion comes from teaching
>nihilism is a conclusion anyone can come to, therefore it is true

Genetic fallacy 101.

when are the mods going to prune this shitty thread? it's not even about the gay kid anymore

>>38113688
prune you're dick, fag

>>38113625
>You can't prove nihilism because you don't have the capacity to prove it IS an absolute.
Burden of proof fallacy
>>38113646
Ad hominem
>>38113662
Strawman. I never said it arising from organic means made it right, I said it doesn't need to be taught so it will continue indefinitely, regardless of being right or wrong.
Don't be a fucking retard, anon.

>>38109757
You should have punched your dad, too. Fathers need to be rock of the household, seems like he raise a hyper violent faggot and an actual faggot. Hope you don't have any other brothers, and any sisters will of course already be lost causes.

>>38113730
The burden of proof lies with the person making the claim. By other people's reactions up to "cognitive dissonance", were you not making a positive claim for nihilism?

you did the right thing. I would have done the same thing if I had a brother. they need to learn that they aren't welcome in society, not in america. let them flee to the liberal cities like roaches when you turn on the light. let them fester in their degenerate hives and let them wallow in their degeneracy because the pendulum swings both ways and it's almost time for it to swing back and then soon all that we be left to do is let the bodies swing from the trees, buildings, overpasses, the gay clubs, and all their favorite hot spots so that every citizen, every boy and girl and every degenerate left alive hiding among the true warriors and patriots will forever know that their sinful disgusting behavior and mental illness is no longer welcome

>>38113728
>you're
This thread was about OP's serious fuckup/heroic act of punching his little brother in the stomach. Now its overrun by tards who can't spell.

>>38113804
the claim was that there is no objective meaning to life. Anything you do will not change the fact that people die and each person will hold their own subjective views. There's your proof right there. Choosing not to accept it because of personal incredulity is not on me.

>>38113542
>the point for an age of consent is to protect children from sexual abuse, something that's generally considered bad no matter where you're from.
Wrong, in the past, and today in some places, there was nothing seen as morally wrong to have sex with a child. Child sex laws, from a historical perspective, are fairly recent.

> I don't see many people arguing that there aren't perfectly justifiable reasons to kill.
There are plenty, unless you're forgetting about traditional Buddhist sects, pacifists, or conscientious objectors.

>Why has our society decided that?
Our society has decided that, again, fairly recently in the last couple hundred years. Prior to that there was seen as nothing wrong with forcing your will on someone. Societal views have changed over time. Asia sees nothing wrong with stuff like where you share the burden of a crime with someone else just because you're related. Or in the Middle East with honor killings, where you murder someone for bringing "shame" to the family name.

> Again, if nihilism is true, I would be perfectly justified to go on a murder and rape spree if I were so inclined.
No, you wouldn't be justified by doing things the society you live in consider immoral and illegal. We dictate ourselves in accordance with the values we were raised in, passed down from authority figures over generations. If you want to be justified in that, go to a part of the world where it's accepted.

>My life could be just as enjoyable and 10 times as fun if I were to indulge in every vice imaginable.
Well that just speaks more to your character than it does about nihilism, doesn't it? If you need the idea of universally imposed, objectively correct worldly truths to keep yourself acting morally than it just demonstrates you can barely contain your own desire to act immoral. Plenty lead moral lives because of their subjective moral compass passed on to them, and don't need the looming fear of eternal damnation to keep them in line.

>>38113659
as I see it, we're not talking about labeling him

that would be different than what happened, which was this kid decided to declare he was gay. Kids experiment with labels for themselves all the time: adopting and shedding them as they see fit. "Supportive parents" doesn't mean they're going to start buying him buttplugs and assless chaps, then leave him at a festival outhouse with a hole cut in the walls. He's they're son. They're still going to be protecting and teaching him. It literally requires zero change to how they treat him.

the "turbo-gey 15 year old dude" story makes it seem like you're conflating sexuality with aesthetic or something similar. There's about as much connection between coming out as gay and what you're describing as there is between "coming out" as straight and vaping in a trenchcoat.

>>38113900
>they're son
whups.

>>38113867
Um, unless some of those views were objectively true. If it's all possible that someone in this world has found something with objective value and truth in it that gives meaning to their life, then I'm not "choosing not to accept" jack. There is no proof that all views are subjective, and therefore no proof for nihilism to be denied.

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>>38113646
>implying other posters are kids even though you're a 15 year old NEET faggot
KEK

>>38113900
I have litteraly 0 problem with him being gay, i have a problem with him "comming out" at 13, which i think is too soon to define what you are.
But maybe it s just me and i m close mided tho.

>>38113958
Still personal incredulity.
>unless some of those views were objectively true
What do you even mean by that? I acknowledged there are objective truths, I just said a greater meaning isn't one of them.
What objective meaning is there? You can't provide an argument, you're just relying on what ifs. If there was a purpose to life we'd all be working towards it, but we're just animals like any other species, we fill out lives with pleasures to distract us from the inevitability of death. We'll all die, and out accomplishments will no longer have a subjective meaning, which means they're void of meaning. What you do with your life is no more or less important than what I do with mine.

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>>38109805
>>38109863
>>38109892
>>38109895
I want the fucking fag loving redd|tors to leave my board

>>38113900
oh and about that guy, it s just that i wanted to say that even a dude that was very sure about his sexality didn t "come out" before 15. And it wasn t about "aethetic" i can tell you

>>38114037
I honestly don't think you're closed minded, I think what's happening is just a negative association with what "coming out" entails

telling your parents "I find dudes attractive" today in most of the english-speaking world isn't a big irreversible ordeal

>>38114107
forced edge is leddit.

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>>38109909
>picture of a crusader
isnt that a bit ironic fag lover

>>38114117
>>38114037
I should add "the way I see it", anyways.

then again my closest highschool friend, who has Leb parents, will essentially never come out to his parents the way he sees it, and didn't come out to his friends until 1st year uni

>>38114125
>forced edge is leddit.
saying "leddit" is pretty fucking redd|t. newcunt.
this place has always been more edgy than reddit ever will be, your post doesnt make any sense.

>>38114165
stop pretending to be hard, m8

>>38109757
Update us in the future maybe you punched some sense into him

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>>38114165
>this place has always been more edgy than reddit ever will be
>more edgy
Holy shit, underage. Unironically kill yourself, my dude

>>38114177
>stop pretending to be hard, m8
what is it redd|tors and not being able to address extremely simple concepts? does your autism get in the way of you being able to focus on something that doesnt have to do with your autist fetish? was there not enough mention of trains in my post?

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>>38114239
>does your autism get in the way of you being able to focus on something that doesnt have to do with your autist fetish
>trying to make fun of his autism on R9K
Underage, it's time you go back

>>38113893
>Prior to that there was seen as nothing wrong with forcing your will on someone.
except thats entirely untrue. you could technically have been executed for rape in medieval europe.

>>38109757
i agree good job.

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Every normalfag in this thread that has used nerd, autistic or degenerate as an insult, leave this board immediately.

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>>38114219
why dont you say that to him cunt. I was just saying that arguing along those lines, even if you look at the board culture from that angle hes categorically wrong.
>>38114281
>being this much of a newfag redd|tor
kys
nobody here is fooled

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>>38114337
leave this board if you support gays pedoscum

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>>38109757
He's probably gonna cut off his dick now OP. Great job OP. Brilliant work OP. Congratulations OP. Bravo faggot.

>>38113893
>Wrong, in the past, and today in some places, there was nothing seen as morally wrong to have sex with a child. Child sex laws, from a historical perspective, are fairly recent.

Wrong. The acceptable age was younger, but even in the Middle East during the time of Mohamed it was wrong to have sex with a child as young as 6. Views have evolved over time, but for most of recorded history and in most countries there was a threshold. You couldn't just have sex with a child of any age.

>There are plenty, unless you're forgetting about traditional Buddhist sects, pacifists, or conscientious objectors.

They're the last people I would expect to condemn someone for killing in self defense.

>Our society has decided that, again, fairly recently in the last couple hundred years.

By "our society", do you mean the modern western world? Because I'll gladly point you to Hebrew scriptures penned over a thousand years ago that say otherwise.

>Well that just speaks more to your character than it does about nihilism, doesn't it? If you need the idea of universally imposed, objectively correct worldly truths to keep yourself acting morally than it just demonstrates you can barely contain your own desire to act immoral.

Which is exactly how I predicted you would respond. You really can't see that you're appealing to objective morals which cannot exist under an atheistic, naturalistic, nihilistic worldview. It has a nothing to do with a looming fear of eternal damnation and everything to do with a belief that moral values are concrete. Evil is not subjective. Good is not a delusion.

I don't want to act immorally in a way that would hurt others because I believe in such a thing as objective evil. My compassion is a result of know what's wrong and choosing to act differently. But, I can't account for a sense of wrong and right under nihilism. They would be illusory, and therefore I would have no reason not to cheat, or lie, or do anything that would advance my cause.

>>38109757
I'm sorry dude. I can't imagine what it must like to have a faggot for a little brother. You did the right thing. Hopefully it wakes him up if he realises how much it's hurt and pissed you off and divided his family.

>>38114084
>If there was a purpose to life we'd all be working towards it

Implying we'd somehow all intuitively know the one true purpose to life or that our brains are too limited to think of more than one.

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>>38109757
>punch him in the gut
>not giving him him stone cold stunner

What are you, a faggot?

>>38112689
First of all, I think you didn't read the entire post. I said the parents should inform kids that they will be developing. And when you say sex I assume you mean reproduction. Sure. Kids should learn about that at the appropriate time.
>from that kid who says he fingerblasted 5 girls
That's something that, 10 years ago I would've said the kids parents need to watch. But in this current year of internet and information overload it's inevitable the kid will come across something they find to be arousing/brag worthy. And it's up to the other kids he talks to to decide if they find it the same.

The reason Parents shouldn't get involved is because they're authority figures. Since little children are always seeking approval from the grown ups, anything said to them could be detrimental. And as for preteens and adolescents; normally, they are just trying to fit in with their peers.

>>38112353
If you're gay, and you don't think you can change that fact, then you should accept that you should simply not be sexually active at all.

>>38114470
>>38112817
Forgot to add (you)

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>>38114470
>The reason Parents shouldn't get involved is because they're authority figures. Since little children are always seeking approval from the grown ups, anything said to them could be detrimental. And as for preteens and adolescents; normally, they are just trying to fit in with their peers.
yea just let kids do what they want. I mean so what if they get into guro furrie anthro fisting its just like whatever XDDDDDDD. I MEAN COME ON its almost 2018 XDDDDDDDDDDD.

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>>38109757
>implying you weren't horny as fuck at 13
>haven't visited home in 2 years
>pretending to give a shit about your family
>beating up children with your pudgy manchild arms
How does it feel to be more sexually frustrated than your 13 year old gay brother?

>>38114482
Implying anyone on this board actually can be sexually active.

>>38114382
>even in the Middle East during the time of Mohamed it was wrong to have sex with a child as young as 6.
You're still having a sex with a child if they're seven years old, and in your own example there would be nothing wrong with it.

>They're the last people I would expect to condemn someone for killing in self defense.
Then I suppose you're unfamiliar with the practice of Satyagraha which forbade the use of violence or force in any capacity, even against oppressors.

>By "our society", do you mean the modern western world? Because I'll gladly point you to Hebrew scriptures penned over a thousand years ago that say otherwise.
Up until a hundred odd years ago, slavery was practiced throughout almost the entirety of the world, which is imposing your will onto someone and robbing them of autonomy. Such practices go as far back as the code of Hammurabi, the first known legal code. Or how Cicero acknowledged that rape was a commonly accepted part of looting committed by soldiers and wasn't morally reprehensible.

>But, I can't account for a sense of wrong and right under nihilism.
You absolutely can. You operate under this preconception that if it does not explicitly come from an objective higher power it cannot be true. Yet to this day we argue about countless acts and if they're good or evil, which wouldn't happen if there was a true objective good or evil. Is honor killing evil? If you asked someone from Iraq he'd say no. I appeal to the notion that a society's ideas of good and evil come from a tribal urge to benefit the community and minimize harm to it, and what that entails evolved over circumstances and breadth of the community. Societies that never developed a natural moral code died. Pointless killing hurts the tribe. Destroying other's property hurts the tribe. We've become more nuanced about it but that's what it boils down to. Compassion is the instinct of a pack animal, but that doesn't make it wrong or a delusion.

>>38114442
Okay then, you come back to me when you've found the purpose; This is exactly the same argument as religion. I have nothing against people that believe in god, but if you believe something purely because there's no way to undeniably prove it isn't true, rather than believing something because you have proof, then I'm not going to agree personally. That's the very definition of burden of proof.
There's no evidence for a greater purpose, so, unfortunately, I don't believe in one. I could say bigfoot was real; What proof do you have bigfoot ISN'T real?

I've never realized /r9k/ hated gays so much. And yet, no one has provided a logical reason as to why they do.

>>38109757
Your parents do understand you punched your brother for being a faggot right? Not because you just felt like punching him. Maybe it would help if they understood that.

>>38109757

I highly, highly doubt this happens. If it somehow has - then you, your parents and your brother are all retards.

>Coming out at 13
Your bro is obviously either an attention whore, a massive idiot, or both. If I was 13 and felt gay, I'd shut up about it until I was 100% sure I'm gay and coming out would be relevant (Like for example I got a long-term bf, and not at age 13). However, he is still a child and it is hard to blame him.
>Your parents for supporting this
Encourages your brother towards faggotry without explaining sexual development, orientation and identity to him. Bad mistake, and I say this as a fag. Doesn't matter what tag a child puts on himself, an adult must explain that it is not for sure.
>You for acting like a cunt
I get that you probably hate LGBT people as a whole, as no one that doesn't have something against LGBT people who do something like this. If you didn't hate LGBT people, you'd punch your parents instead. Your brother is a child who doesn't fully understands what coming out means, and it's your parents job to explain. Your brother is the last one who needs to be harmed in this, as he's probably having a conflict in his sexuality and you proven yourself to be hateful and immature.

>>38114541
I genuinly don't give a fuck about furries, I don't really like them, but I can ignore them and let them be. If you don't want your kid to be a furry, don't have kids, simple as that. You can ground them, beat them, scream at them... At the end of it all, when they're an adult they can still do whatever they want to do. Don't pretend there aren't 40-year-old furries, their parents probably tried to intervene, but it did no good.

>>38114634
>You can ground them, beat them, scream at them... At the end of it all, when they're an adult they can still do whatever they want to do.
yea man its just like whatever xDDDDDDDDDDD

furries have been around since like the medEEval ages or something xDD

>>38114541
Sarcasm? Autism? Trolling?
I don't know your game. I, personally, believe, in a better world, a good parent won't allow kids under 14 access to the internet without parental blocks. You make it seem like I'm doing anything but stating the obvious. That it's my fault sites that provide pornography are free to access and the one's that have a 'security lock' can easily be bypassed by lying about one's birthdate.
I know it makes you upset but sex and kids makes (this) world go 'round. They invoke strong emotions from people. And that won't change for awhile.

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>>38114654
You're missing the point. really try to use your brain this time, leddit.
>when they're an adult they can still do whatever they want to do
>Adult
>can do whatever they want
>can
If you don't like your kid being a furry, you can't stop them when they become an adult, whether you like it or not. I'm not saying you SHOULDN'T stop them, I'm saying you physically cannot control their life. You fucking autist.

>>38114619
>If I was 13 and felt gay, I'd shut up about it until I was 100% sure I'm gay and coming out would be relevant

You don't know what sort of liberal shithole school this kid goes to. He could have stuff like how great race mixing and being a faggot is drummed into him 24/7. At that age he's grown up into his adolescent years at peak SJW, probably watching the kind of faggot shit on TV that would have been banned when I was a kid.

you should have went a different direction with it OP. You should have been extremely gay and started hitting on him about his asshole getting fucked raw. I would have doine that and I would have scared him so much from me threatening to rape his asshole he'd stop.

>>38114634
Honestly, negetive reinforcement won't work on kids 13 and up. Unless they see some die or get mutilated, this 'scared straight' method will probably backfire into rebelliousness.

Op should've given him the cummies and milked his prostate

>>38114739
> this 'scared straight' method will probably backfire into rebelliousness.
Exactly, you can't control kids old enough to be into that shit. They're a lost cause, don't have kids if you're not prepared for them to possibly end up downie, autistic or into furry porn.

>>38114739
i saw a post in another thread about a guy's young son becoming a transexual. one anon suggested op should show his son pictures of penises and ask him if he was honestly into them. i think the boy was 9 to 11. op should do this. show his brother sex organs and ask if he finds them attractive.

>there's no such thing as gay kids

Gay kids exist just as surely as straight kids do. I always knew I was gay. I didn't know about terms like gay or straight until later on, but I was always exclusively attracted to other guys.

I went through years of denial thanks to being raised in an incredibly strict religious household, and even tried to "pray the gay away" and all that bullshit. Once I was an adult and didn't have to let my parents dictate my moral beliefs anymore, I just accepted who I was and got on with my life.

There's a big difference between society tolerating diversity because we're all human beings living in the same world and that's just the decent thing to do, versus people making up bullshit labels to apply to themselves because they're attention whores. Kids coming out at 13 is not a case of the latter.

>>38114693
>I'm not saying you SHOULDN'T stop them
this is the exact opposite of what your post implied you fucking aspie.
>If you don't want your kid to be a furry, don't have kids, simple as that.
how else am i supposed to interpret this sentence other than as an endorsement of complete self determination on the part of the child.

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>>38114854
>Kids coming out at 13 is not a case of the latter.
I really dont get this shit
I dont think I was actually into girls until I was 19

>>38114589
>You're still having a sex with a child if they're seven years old, and in your own example there would be nothing wrong with it.

No, in the example I gave it would have gone against the social mores of the time. The point is that it was acknowledged that there was such a thing as "too young". You're still not differentiating between social mores and objective morals.

>Then I suppose you're unfamiliar with the practice of Satyagraha which forbade the use of violence or force in any capacity, even against oppressors.

Okay.

>Up until a hundred odd years ago, slavery was practiced throughout almost the entirety of the world, which is imposing your will onto someone and robbing them of autonomy. Such practices go as far back as the code of Hammurabi, the first known legal code. Or how Cicero acknowledged that rape was a commonly accepted part of looting committed by soldiers and wasn't morally reprehensible.

Okay. How does this disprove the existence of objective morality? Is that even your argument anymore? Your next paragraph makes this unclear.

>You absolutely can.

Okay.

>You operate under this preconception that if it does not explicitly come from an objective higher power it cannot be true.

And you're operating under the preconception that our ideas of good and evil stem only from an urge to benefit the tribe, and yet... are somehow true? How on earth can something that is the product of the evolutionary need to prosper and pass on our genes be objectively true? When you speak of instincts, what you're talking about are inherited mental processes, which are neither true nor false.

Again, there is no objective morality under naturalism/nihilism, only subjective or illusory morals that have been hammered into us by society and evolution. I stand by that statement.

>>38114700

Then it's the parents job to sort this out.
Modern regressive liberalism has took this shit too far. Being liberal is about being open minded to new ideas and letting people live their lives, not accepting automatically anything that comes through the door.

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>>38109757
>Fuck this gay earth
The earth isn't gay. Your brother is the gay one.

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>>38114870
Are you this retarded unironically?
I didn't imply that at all. Stop using the autism buzzword just because I said it to you first, that's extremely fucking autistic, you echolalia sperg. You're implying I said you shouldn't control the kid, I didnt' say 'shouldn't' I said you can't stop them. Not because it's wrong, not because it's cruel...You can't stop them, because they'll just become rebellious and do it anyway. Stop interpreting words so fucking literally you gigantic assburger

>>38114854
> Yes goy, diversity is a strength, let's import third world immigrants because were all human.

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>>38114926
Well they're supporting it. I remember seeing this kid and it's mother was an alcoholic with mulitple DUI's that basically abandoned it at home alone most of the time to go fuck 3-4 different guys a week. It's just turned 14 and it's now an MtF tranny and is covered in marks from cutting. Everyone gives it encouragement but really the kid is obviously very mentally ill and needs help.

I don't know how the school or the childs relatives can turn a blind eye to all those marks on its arm and the degeneracy of allowing a 14 year old kid to be a tranny is disgusting. That's Oregon for you though.

>>38114921
Not that anon, but there's no need to even get into these fucking paragraphs. Objective morality doesn't exist. Different cultures have different ideas of age of concept, some tribes don't have any age of concept. Morality is something that was decided upon by a group of people using ethical reasoning, not an objective truth. The law- like all man-made concepts - is subjective to change as time goes on; Slavery was once deemed okay, it's no longer seen as acceptable, not in the western world at least. other species don't operate under these laws either.

>>38109757

You're a fucking cuck loser
13 is a natural time for someone to express themselves sexually and begin defining who they are finding out what they like and what feels good
hope your parents never talk to you again or help you in anyway ever again

>>38114972
you said if you dont like them being furries than dont have kids

there is no other interpretation of this sentence. Its a very plain yes or no dichotomy. either your accepting of them being furries or you just shouldnt have them.

>>38111716
Except you will never face hatred for being straight. No one will ever tell you you're a degenerate for being straight. No one will ever tell you you're not a person because you're straight.

So yes, there is still very much a reason for gay pride.

>>38109757
>punch him in the stomach
>he goes and blows a guy to spite OP
OP you're a fucking retard

breeders/straightfags need to be outcasted like op

>>38114595
What is your standard of proof, and what do you mean by 'no evidence for a greater purpose'? Obviously there are many people who have found meaning and fulfillment in God, and there are countless arguments for God's existence. So you have people who claim to have had spiritual experiences, or even miracles, as well as people who have reasons for believing in a higher power. To assume that all people who ave found higher purposes believe only because there's no way to disprove what they believe in is not only wrong, but it's insulting to the countless people who believe for intellectual and experiential reasons.

>>38115086
>defending comming out at age 13
please fucking kys /lgbtbbq/ trash. fuck off back to your trap threads.

>>38115071
Either you accept the possibility that your kid can grow up partaking in degenerate acts and you're powerless to stop them, or you don't allow that possibility to happen, by not having the child in the first place.
You can't stop the kid, they'll develop their own interests as they grow up, so if you don't like it, you probably should just avoid the situation entirely by not having the child.

You can't control whether your kid is autistic or not. You can't control what their interests are after a certain age, it's an unfortunate part of life. Forbid your daughter from seeing a boy, and she has the potential to develop daddy issues and fuck Tyrone just to spite you.

>>38114693
>>38114870
The first Anon is trying to say having kids is like a game of chance. Most physical features you do control. Except your kid being born a boy or a girl. Other things regarding personality are built accordimg to the setting the kid is in. They could smoke. They could be handed the solutions or they could solicit. They could be imtellectuals or complete deviants. Even if you move into a white collar, christian, neighborhood filled with dear hearts amd gentle people, there's no garuntee on the friends the kid will make or the places they'll be exposed to once they can legally be let out of your sight. You can't control them because that's abuse in society's eyes. To them a tyrant a good parent does not make.

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>>38111331
that post was 2enlightened4me

You should've punched your dad for raising his sons to become faggots.

>>38115123
They defend it because many of them are pedophiles. 90% of the gays on this board would fuck a 13 year old boy without a second thought. They spend all day with these loli pictures trying to entrap and groom underage kids and get them onto discord to try for nudes or sex. It's disgusting.

>>38110124
The way your post is written easily betrays the fact that you've on this site for under a year and are probably underage. You should work on that before you call others summerfags, either that or just fuck off to wherever you came from.

>>38114854
>that's just the decent thing to do

Yes destroying marriage and the family so genetic failures don't get their feelings hurt is "the decent thing to do."

And you wonder why people fucking hate you.

>>38115074
People get hatred for being fat, are there massive fat pride events in every city? No. People get hatred for being ugly, are there massive ugly pride events in every city? No. People get hatred for being nerds/geeks, are there massive nerd/geek pride events in every city? No. People get hatred for being stupid. Are there massive stupid pride events in every city? No. Men get hatred for being skinny. Are there massive skinny events in every city? No. People get hatred for being poor. Are there massive poor pride events in every city? No.

By the way, these are all personal choices, just like being gay (apart from being stupid and ugly), which people can choose to change to avoid hatred.

You don't need a bunch of fucking sick middle aged men in thongs in the public to celebrate your "pride" and combat hatred. Practically no gay people are actually harmed by homophobia. Gay people want pride because being gay is commonly a result of mental illness and mentally unstable people can't handle mean words.

>>38115117
There's no real argument for God's existence, no definitive proof, only scriptures written by men and a belief passed down from person to person. If somebody finds meaning in god, that's subjective meaning. Each culture has their own god and subjective meaning.
I say good for them that they've found meaning through God, but there's still not any real evidence and it's still subjective.
Many people have claimed to have had experiences with Bigfoot or aliens, there's no definitive way to prove them wrong, but the burden of proof lies with the one making the claim. Anecdotal evidence about bigfoot, aliens or God is not enough to disprove nihilism as a concept.

>>38115130
>Either you accept the possibility
except you fucking retard, you didnt say it like that

you didnt say "possibility" you said "if you dont like _____ then dont have kids. "
meaning that x is so likely and unpreventable that by having kids you will inevitably encounter the situation and should therefore not bother having kids.

>>38115059
>Different cultures have different ideas of age of concept, some tribes don't have any age of concept.

Consent. And even if that were true, and even if it were true that slavery was once deemed okay everywhere by all people, that doesn't make forcing a child to have sex with you or forced servitude not wrong. The wrongness of these acts goes beyond what any given society thinks of them--hence "objective morality". The Nazis weren't right to gas Jews even if Hitler made it legal.

>>38115240
>People get hatred for being fat, are there massive fat pride events in every city?
SJWs try to make shit like this constantly, and then autists like you get pissed about it.
There's no parades for shit like being fat, because people throw a big uproar about it. There's still 'fat acceptance' songs.

>>38109757
It did nothing you piece of shit homphobe
If your family member comes out as something, support, or at very least dont recognize it
When you do the shit you did, you become the bad guy
You become vilified, no matter how wrong something is, if you react like you did you become the monster
Fucking idiot

>>38115166
>The first Anon is trying to say having kids is like a game of chance.
hey fuckhead. im arguing the point he made in his initial statement, not whatever he said afterwards.
>To them a tyrant a good parent does not make.
thats nice

if your child becomes a furry, you have failed as a parent. I guess being a fag isn't really under a parents control. but tolerating degeneracy at age 13 is.

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>>38115074
Absolutely tumblrina.
I don't think you read the part where ot says that no one gives a shit about people liking cocks anymore, and that rubbing your dicklust in people's faces only makes you hate them even more.

>>38115273
And SJWs don't throw an uproar if anybody says anything that even is remotely related to "homophobia"?

You also ignored the points like being ugly or being nerdy or being a skinny man which your response doesn't address. It's common and socially acceptable to make fun of a nerd or geek or ugly person, and nobody cares. Make fun of a gay person? You can get fired, kicked out of school, ect. Tease a nerdy looking skinny guy? Everybody laughs.

>>38115048
>those scars
>sideways
That's a sign that he fully accepted the situation you described and did the best she could to make the worst of it. There aren't many examples but he could've easily started a better life for herself.

>>38109757
Good man. Kids need to learn that faggotry isnt acceptable, and if theyre diseased they damn well better not act on it.
Sorry for your loss OP, just go make a big family and tell yours to fuck off

>>38115300
That IS what he said in his original statement, you're just too autistic to see his point.
>If your child becomes a furry, you have failed as a parent.
We'[ve just established that it's beyond a parents control. You are so fucking autistic and I know at least 4 anons have told you already, but go see a doctor you raging aspie

>>38115368
You're not wrong, but why are you saying that gays should ALSO be laughed at and shunned, rather than advocating that skinny autistic nerds should be treated as eqauls TOO?

>>38115242
No, there are real arguments. You can go to the Q&A section of Reasonable Faith (reasonablefaith.org/question-answer) and find hundreds of rebuttals to arguments against God's existence. Whether those arguments are good enough for you, or if you're even open to the possibility of God's existence is another matter.

>Bigfoot
>aliens
>burden of proof

Not this again! What's proof for you is not the standard of proof for another. If someone has an experience that they feel they can rationalize, or hears an argument for God's existence or against a naturalistic explanation for the origin of the universe, and these lead that person to change their beliefs, that person is logically justified to hold those beliefs. To say, "well, they can't prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that they're worldview is correct, so they can only justify it by pointing to others' inability to disprove said belief" is cynical, not to mention closed minded.

>>38115444
>That IS what he said in his original statement
>you're just too autistic to see his point.
>he says this without even addressing my points
and yet im the fucking aspie
kys asap pls

>>38115263
>>38115263
>Consent.
Yes, I mean consent, it was a typo obviously.
> that doesn't make forcing a child to have sex with you or forced servitude not wrong.
You think it's wrong, other people think it's wrong, but not everybody does. It's subjective. The fact that pedophiles want to fuck kids and don't see it as wrong just proves that. Plenty of other species engage in pedophilia too.
I'm not saying you're wrong to push the idea that pedophilia is morally bad, but it's still not a universal truth.

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>>38115493
>What's proof for you is not the standard of proof for another
So you agree there is no objective truths

>>38115470
Because gays and skinny autistic nerds aren't equals, which is why they are laughed at. It's called human nature. Undesirables are shunned and bullied. Why do you think there are so many bullies even from young ages? Because it's natural and healthy for people with social defects/deformities to be pointed out and shunned to promote change.

>>38115502
You didn't make a point you just copy pasted what I said back at me and made autistic snarky comments about it you assburger, unironically kill yourself

>>38112522

It's funny how the people who rant about "Degenerates destroying society" are usually unemployed virgins whose only contribution to the civilized world is whatever meager service industry job they're able to get.

>>38115541
Don't get mad when people shun you then, you NEET

>>38115493
>schizophrenic delusions are real because it's real to them

KEK

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>>38115530
I... what? There is no way which you could conceivably take that from that statement. Read again.

>>38115385
I basically raised myself and I had an alcoholic single mother too. You sure didn't see me turn out as a tranny at 13 and cutting myself constantly. I know s/he was doing it for a year or two before it became a tranny, that's only very recent. It must have a deep seated need for attention. Probably gonna turn out narcissistic or borderline.

>>38115566
yea thats what I thought
all this autistic samefagging

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>>38115601
>spiritual experiences must be delusions, because I haven't experienced any myself

>>38115586
So you accept that fags should be shunned by diverting the topic to an attempt at a personal insult?

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>>38109757
You didn't know you liked girls at 13?

hmmm... maybe he's not the only faggot in the family

Holy shit a lot of /lgbt/ trash and prison gays in this threads. Good job OP, hopefully he'll think twice before sucking cock and getting fucked in the ass now

>>38109757
does he have the fag voice or does he sound normal

>>38115674
The topic was diverted long, long ago. Hence my plea to the mods to PRUNE THIS THREAD FOR THE LOVE OF ZEUS

>>38111092
>dude I just got here
>dude you're all annoying faggots
>dude I use quotation marks on top of greentexting
>dude why can't everywhere on the internet be 100% accepting and hold the views I think they should
This is what people are like here yet you and the rest of the pissy normals will force yourselves to keep coming here just so you can find something to make you reeee harder than we ever have
You want to talk about annoying faggots?

>>38115714
Thanks, does that mean you won't cry anymore when somebody calls you a queer for prancing around then?

>>38115692
>being this fucking assblasted
lol fuck off back to /lgbtbbq/

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>>38115666
Fundies actually believe this.
KEK

Nobody mentioned spiritual experiences, I said schizophrenic delusions. Have you ever met a schizophrenic? They can have delusions ranging from the belief that people are spying on them to something nonsensical like ''I'm dead'' even though they're clearly not, otherwise they couldn't be talking to you.
Just because they believe it doesn't make it true.

>>38115730
Cry? I'll laugh. Everyone knows I'm all about that buttlove.

Come blast my ass daddy I want that meat

>>38115731
was just trying to point out that the guy is probably not heterosexual himself, sorry to have triggered you

>>38115752
Yet you bitch for pride events? You're contradicting yourself.

>>38115738
>Just because they believe it doesn't make it true.
You know I'm just going to say that the pendulum swings both ways, so why even go there?

Let's revisit your original response, because it was flawed to begin with:

>schizophrenic delusions are real because it's real to them

Except that isn't what I wrote at all. What I wrote is that some people may have experiences they can't rationalize which lead them to believe in a higher power, or/and they might be convinced by arguments to the same effect. I then went on to say that it's logically justifiable to trust your experiences and your cognitive ability to decide whether it is rational or not to believe in said higher power. I said nothing about what's *real*. Yes, your experiences and your thinking could be wrong, but guess what? They're all you've got.

But since you only honed in on the supernatural claims half of my statement, let go at this from another angle and ask:

Do I have to be the one to break to you the sheer improbability that everyone who claims to have had a spiritual experience is schizophrenic?

>Nobody mentioned spiritual experiences

But I was talking about spiritual experience and you called them schizophrenic delusions. I don't know how narrow-minded you have to be to believe that everyone who claims to have had such an experience, which can be as simple as a sudden feeling of wellness and peace during otherwise distressing circumstances, is actually schizophrenic.

>>38115633
This. If his mother is away as much as that anon said she is where did the kid get the money for the operation? I bet it was done mutually out of spite. The tranny wanted to rebel against her mother and the mother wanted to prove he wouldn't be happy. Sort of a " smoke one cig? Smoke a whole pack then" type of deal.

everyone shut the fuck up about god and gays and watch this fooly cooly 2 trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix7mDEclKxU

>>38116062
There's no argument. There is no proof of a god because it's a man-made concept. If believing in a God brings someone peace then so be it, but it doesn't change objectivity. It might seem rational, but it isn't. A rational belief is accepting something based on evidence that outweighs the other side of the argument. Believing in a God based on nothing but faith alone is not rational, regardless of your subjective 'spiritual' experiences.

Not everyone that claims to have had a supernatural belief is schizophrenic, it's far more complex than that. People that score higher schizotypy are more likely to say shit about 'spiritual experience,' then there are people that make it up out of peer pressure or a sense of wanting to fit in with the religion they were raised to believe - look up speaking in tongues for a look at this - and people who mistakingly correlate a perfectly normal experience with something abnormal.
Funnily enough, people that claim to have had religious experiences are almost always religious prior to the experience.

>>38116248
>There's no argument. There is no proof of a god because it's a man-made concept.

Arguments =/= proof. Long before there was any proof of black holes there were good arguments, i.e. good reasons to believe they existed.

>Believing in a God based on nothing but faith alone is not rational

You're right! Good thing there are arguments for God's existence. Feel free to disagree with them, but pretending they don't exist makes you look ignorant.

>regardless of your subjective 'spiritual' experiences.

Actually, you could argue that all experiences are subjective and that we're living in a simulation. Simply saying that something could be subjective doesn't show that it either is or isn't based in reality.

>Funnily enough, people that claim to have had religious experiences are almost always religious prior to the experience.

Funnily enough, I never said anything about "religious experiences". I've heard plenty of testimonies from former atheists who converted only after having an experience that they couldn't naturally rationalize. But yes, let's call them schizophrenics because it's easier to deal with them that way.

high quality bait

>itt things that didn't happen

>>38110005
This isn't about opinions you complete buffoon. This is degeneracy in its unrefined state

>>38116408
Schizotypy /=/ actual schizophrenia you fucking idiot. Google it, 5 minutes of your life reading a wikipedia article, I'm sure you'll manage.

Please, provide me a factual argument for God's existance. No more post-modernist crap about simulations and 'everybody's argument is right to them.' If it's a fallacious argument, it isn't an argument at all.

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>>38116479
>Degeneracy
You're an autistic NEET on a website where people fap to hentai and traps you delusional faggot

>>38116480
>Schizotypy /=/ actual schizophrenia you fucking idiot.

Says the person who wrote

>schizophrenic delusions are real because it's real to them

but then backpedaled because no, wait, it's far more complex than that.

>Please, provide me a factual argument for God's existance.

If I do, I have a feeling you will refuse to engage with them and simply write "KEK" again. There are much smarter people than I who have argued for the existence of God in peer-review journals. I gave you a link earlier, here's another: http://www.reasonablefaith.org/scholarly-articles/the-existence-of-god

Arguments for the historicity of Christ and the resurrection: http://www.garyhabermas.com/articles/articles.htm

None of these articles contain wishy-washy "if you just believe in your heart what the scripture says, then it will be true" arguments. This isn't post-modern crap about all beliefs being equally valid.

>>38116782
''schizophrenic delusions are real because it's real to them'' was an obvious strawman to point out how stupid your fucking argument was when you said ''What's proof for you is not the standard of proof for another. If someone has an experience that they feel they can rationalize, or hears an argument for God's existence or against a naturalistic explanation for the origin of the universe, and these lead that person to change their beliefs, that person is logically justified to hold those beliefs.''

So no, it wasn't back peddling. The point remains that those who score highly on schizotypy are the most likely to have magical beliefs, though.

>>38109757
Grow up you imbread hic, none gives a shit about what you want others to like.
Stop lashing out at people you spaz.

Different people like different things, faggot.

>>38114107
This isnt your safe space, bitch.

>>38109757
Kill him anon..oreganotismo

>>38111866
>"muh family!"

Fuck family. Fuck them, family means NOTHING you miserable fuck. Your kin deserve no innate respect or loyalty

Reminder that the concept of 'degeneracy' on R9K is a robot's last ditch attempt to feel valued and self worth. They instil the idea of 'purity' and 'innocence' and 'degeneracy' onto others in order to devalue those people and raise themselves up a bit. They believe that by creating this idea that they are not 'degenerate' like the others, they are finally better than the normies at something, which is their high morals and purity.

It also helps them believe that they are positively contributing to society, as they are not negatively bringing society down like the other 'degenerates' are.

This is all a construct in order to give themselves value and self worth, separating the lowly 'degenerates' from themselves, the 'pure' and 'moralistic' robot.

However, in reality it does not change anything. Society stays the same, they stay the same in the eyes of others and only in these threads do they feel more valued by being able to finally, for the first time in their life, look down on others with disgust. The 'degenerates' that they have created. Often copying those in school who looked down in disgust at them.

>>38112185
Throw a fucking tantrum like OP then.