>almost 200 calories from a tiny donut >200+ calories for

>>38091605
>tim-tam

what?

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>>38091613
They look like this, its an australian thing

>>38091658
holy fuck anon those look delicious, give me one

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>tfw fat as fat ass
like a cup of ranch and blue cheese along with it as well

>>38092271
God damn son, what are your stats

>>38092368
>what are your stats

5'3 330lbs

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>>38092385
At what point did you give up, anon? Tell me your story

>>38092368
>>38092385
not me, he was close on the height, though.
5'2 145lbs

desu I eat roughly 1400 calories a day without noticing but I'm 20 and 120lbs, which is unhealthily underweight. I just dislike food lol, I only eat because I HAVE to.

>>38091605
And yet, calories from 100g of spaghettis: 150 calories. Then just add chicken or eggs for calories and you can EASILY eat well for less than 1400cals a day.

The problem is that you crave sweet things.

Where are all the fatbots at

So stop eating shitty food, fatty.

>>38091605
>eat a bunch of sweet unfulfilling shit
>WHY IS LOSING WEIGHT SO HARD

the problem is your parents didn't love you enough to keep you to a strict diet and you don't love yourself enough to break out of bad habits.

i'm doing intermittent fasting at the moment, it's working grat desu, i skip one meal a day and stuff my face with what i want for the others.

Its easy to throw up OP. I've neen doing it for two months now and have lost 10kg. I also chew food until it is a fine paste and spit it in to the sink once it starts to feel and taste gross. This chewing and spitting simulates certain food I crave for my brain.

>>38092883
What are you going to do about stomach acid rotting your teeth?

>>38091605

Regulate what you eat; make a plan and follow it, and don't deviate from the plan.

It isn't hard.

https://archive.org/details/GoodEati1951

>>38092501
eat my dick right now you faggot

>>38092906
I rinse my mouth with a bottle of water I keep on me at all times. Throwing up is only my resort when my fasting and healthy eating fails so I don't donit daily maybe once a week.

>>38092914
I have a food addiction tho

>>38093047
addict yourself to healthier food

I already lost 7 pounds in the last week and a half. I'm doing it robots!

>>38091605
>1400 calories to lose weight
fuck man. I'm sorry. That's some slow ass metabolism. I thought mine was bad.

>>38091605
>to lose 1 pound a week I have to eat less than 1400 calories across an ENTIRE DAY
what? you must not be very fat, or calculating things incorrectly. I'm not even considered fat, just a bit out of shape and eating 1500 calories every day for a week will lose me 2 pounds.

What's your weight/height and how many calories a day do you think is your maintenance number? Because mine is 2500 and like I said, not even that big of a dude.

>>38091605
Just vomit it up you fucking fatty. If you cant go without eating like a fucking pig.

skelebot here, I can't fathom how it is to be fat
does it feel like it takes a lot of effort just to move?
are you sensitive to textile stimulation?
get hot often? i LOVE the heat as a skelebot as i am sensitive to the cold

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>tfw losing weight and parents are buying more junk food than ever before
>churche's chicken on the table now
>the aroma fills the room
>I'm losing weight and look like another man
>tfw they tempt me with food
>meanwhile I'm too strong willed and they are irritated by it

>>38092505
>advocating for meat in 2017
lmao

>>38091605
Eat proper food. A whole melon has 300 cal and it tastes better than all this shit. I can't even eat it in one sitting.

>>38091605
>eat burger at mcdonalds
>800 cal
>still hungry eat two
>all of this and it's barely 1 PM

not fucking hard if you control yourself. I swear the only reason some people are skinny is because not of their self control (which most people CLEARLY don't have), but instead because the things they like also seem to be on healthy spectrum (and the things they dislike, most likely on the opposite end). Grow a backbone geez.

I was proper fat until I got diagnosed with high blood pressure at the age of 24

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I don't get why it's so hard for you lads to lose weight. I'll just fast for a day or two, maybe three, on purely nuts/oats and fruits. I'll go from 135 to 128, after that it'll be hard to regain.

I'm currently at 125

>>38093389
give a sound argument against eating meat that doesn't involve your feelings towards animals.

>>38091605
I'm only skinny because I forget to eat because I'm on my computer. Also my metabolism. Don't worry OP, us skinnyfags and you overweight people will probably die around the same time. I literally have no substance.

>>38093643
Eating meat raises cholesterol leading to atherosclerotic plaque formation and IHD, it increases the risk of some cancers, it causes chronic inflammation in the body, depending on what you eat it contains chemicals, harmful bacteria and industrial by-products, and quite a few other things. Did you honestly think there wasn't a scientific argument against meat?

Now tell me, without using emotion, why you should eat meat if all this is true.

>>38093748
tons of things that aren't meat increase risk of cancer and cholesterol. Those bacteria are harmful if you don't know how to handle food properly, if you cook it and store you'll be fine.

>>38093748
It tastes good and won't make you fat. Kill me at 60, fine, just let me enjoy my youth.

>>38093852
>tons of things that aren't meat increase risk of cancer
This is not an argument to keep eating meat

>cholesterol
This is not true. Only animal products contain cholesterol

>Those bacteria are harmful if you don't know how to handle food properly, if you cook it
This isn't true with all bacteria plus cooking meat creates heterocyclic amines which will further increase your risk of cancer.

>>38093955
Meat does make you fat though.

>>38093955
>just let me enjoy my youth.
You don't enjoy anything though. Why would you lie on the internet?

>>38093748
Tastes good, adds variety to diet.
Itd be easier to name things that don't actively cause cancer than those that do. So, why not get cancer in the safest and tastiest way?

>>38093748
Because you need protein to bulk out. A lot of it. The intake some people need solely to keep their figure is insane and a hefty work out can easily drain you. Sure you can take supplements and things like creatin but you still need to keep your body fueled least your progress stops.

Don't be your own gainz goblin.

>>38093968
Easy source of protein for bodybuilding.

>>38094013
>>38094016
Oh look. It's two retards who have been conned by the bodybuilding supplement marketing jew into thinking they need 300g of protein every hour on the hour or they'll go catabolic Auschwitz mode. Every vegetable has protein and every protein is complete.

All you need is a positive nitrogen balance.

>>38093748

Carbohydrates are metabolised into sugars, including fructose, which is terrible for you.

Proteins and fats are not.

To be fair, animal fat is even better than meat.
Butter is also really good for you. Lard and butter are extremely filling even in small amounts and prevent over-eating.

>>38093968
my argument is that you shouldn't care if people eat meat or not because most of the health risks eating meat causes are also found in other foods. the real risk is not maintaining a healthy diet.

>>38093748
I don't give a shit

I was arguing with someone on here about sardines and he was sperging out about how much mercury or whatever it had and I was saying that it doesn't fucking matter and that it has great macronutrient ratios and I'll eat it all I want, because you shouldn't live being concerned about truly fucking petty shit like that. then I got called a "canned fish salesman".

people have been eating meat since forever. of course now you will say "people have been murdering each other forever and smoking forever and doing something for so long doesn't imply it's ok" and to that I say I DO NOT FUCKING CARE, and in this circumstance I think it's all the rebuttal I need just because of how completely basic the subject is- eating meat.

It's not about calories it's about the macros you autist

>>38094078
yeah bro its cool its all about the calories
*scarfs oreos*
no I can do this its all good im just not going to eat the rest of the day

>>38094057
>carbs are bad for you
Okay ;)

>Proteins and fats are not
lmfao you're not even pretending to know anything about nutrition

>To be fair, animal fat is even better than meat. Butter is also really good for you
I'm so stoned it took me until this long to realise you were trolling.

>>38094064
>most of the health risks eating meat causes are also found in other foods
Name one other food that contributes directly to the formation of atherosclerotic plauqes

>>38094065
>>38094078
>now the IIFYM crowd is here
Too much retardation here. I'm outttt

>>38094065

The Masai in Kenya have been living on a cocktail of blood and milk for god knows how many thousands of years.

I don't think they actually eat animal flesh though: they just make cuts on their cattle to let some blood out, thus keeping the highly valuable cattle alive.

I wonder what the vegetarian opinion on that is: you're not actually killing animals for the blood.

>>38091746
Theyre pretty unimpressive actually.

>>38094108

educate yourself ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWI1TljBsaw&ab_channel=EricBerg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWI1TljBsaw&ab_channel=EricBerg

>>38094108

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iKSL-bpbAM&ab_channel=EricBerg

>>38094108

>>carbs are bad for you
>Okay ;)

They aren't necessary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXF4iD3O_oA

>>38094036
DO YOU EVEN LIFT BRAH? No you don't.

>>38094137
>>38094164
>>38094183
not even that guy but stop posting the uncited opinions of a chiropractor lmfao

>>38093325
why would your parents do this to you?

>>38091605
Testing 1 2 3 hellloo

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>>38093325
>they temp me with food
I always break at that point f.am, hopefully with my new job I can buy healthier food to hold out with. wish me luck.

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>>38093323
Ya get used to it bub.

>tfw I realized climbing stairs wasn't hard at all after dropping 70 lbs.

Just had my cheat day after a month of being on keto. I feel like shit and I wish I didn't cheat. I really just cheated with alcohol. I went from 20g of carbs to a couple thousand in one day. I got super drunk and I feel like shit now. It kinda put me off of drinking which was my hardest th i ng to give up besides fast food.

I still got a long way to go but in one month I lost 25lbs. Feels good man. From 386 to 361.

>>38093643

There really is no reason to regularly eat meat other than "I want to." It causes needless suffering, inefficient use of resources, and is overall bad for your health. It's pretty tasty though and I don't care about the animals or the planet enough to stop doing it.

>>38094428
>From 386 to 361
Holy fuck, how tall are you?

lads how will BMR compare to maintenance for a NEET who stays inside all day and gets no exercise?

>>38094454
Not that tall. Just 6'0

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>3pm and haven't eaten yet today
>still have 3 hours to go until I can eat

>>38094701
>following a stupid ass diet that makes him unhappy
lol

I've been going to the gym 4-5 times a week for the last two months but I can't stop drinking too much and eating poorly. I'm noticeably stronger and have more definition in some areas but I haven't lost a single pound. It sucks. I suck.

>>38091605
Stop eating high calorie food then you fucking dumbass.
You can eat buttloads of food as long as its low in calories.

>>38094701
>he fell for the fasting meme
retard

>>38095309
>just stop eating food that actually tastes good

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>>38091605
i'm 5'5'' and 230 lbs. Thinking about eating only veggies and drinking water for as long as possible and seeing what happens. Anyone ever have the willpower to do anything similar? I have some NEET time before school so I figure what the hell. gonna do 30 mins of cardio and slight bodyweight exercies to try to curtail muscle loss, because i do have some built up i'd like to keep

>>38091605
1400 seems quite low, like very. If you start exercising you can eat more and lose weight, exercise and lift weight and you can eat EVEN more. Cardio + weights and you could be up to 2100

>>38095327
>meat dosn't taste good
LOW T
O
W
T

also vegetables aren't bad at all in a stew with dank broth

Anyone got the webm of that fat guy with rotting legs getting a bath?

>>38095347
You will become much, much healthier id you actually do that consistently, trust me

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>Cut diet soda, candy, pastries, pasta
>Lost 2 kg after one month
>Never hungry
>Common sense actually work

1400 calories to lose weight makes zero sense. You can lose weight and eat 1700-2200 calories for a normal person and lose weight with light lifting and some cardio. There's no reason to starve yourself.

Drinks: Only water. If that's too bland, buy some 5 calorie water flavoring packs.

Meat: Chicken, tilapia, beef (for stew), sometimes shrimp.

Carbs: Brown rice, quinoa, beans, potatoes.

Vegetables: Broccoli, fresh spinach/green-beans, asparagus, carrots, celery, cabbage, onions, tomatoes, bell peppers.

Fruit: Banana, Apple, etc, etc.

Your diet can consist of many things with just these. Look for recipes.

My meals generally look like this,

>Breakfast: Quinoa bowl, with eggs, avocado, bell peppers, tomatoes, corn, cilantro. You can make a large mix and prepare them for the week. Just cook the eggs in the morning and put them on top.

Snack: Banana or Apple

Lunch: Chicken wraps, or chicken salad mix with a little balsamic. Or a burrito with some pre-mix that I made for the week (chicken, avocado, lettuce, corn, spinach, white rice, etc).

Dinner: Usually involving steamed vegetables and chicken/tilapia with a baked potato. Also a lot of easy to make vegetable/chicken stews.

If you're craving a snack just eat some carrots. Or just eat a can of tuna.

>>38091605
>1400 calories

Are you a tiny midget person or something? I eat 2800 calories and I've lost about 2 pounds this month

>>38094057
>Carbohydrates are metabolised into sugars, including fructose, which is terrible for you.
>Proteins and fats are not.
proteins are tho

>>38091605
STOP EATING SWEETS YOU FAT FUCK
IT'S EMPTY CALORIES

EAT VEGGIES INSTEAD
FUCK, YOU CAN EVEN COOK A GOD DAMN CHICKEN BREAST, JUST STOP EATING THOSE STUPID FUCKING SWEETS

Just force yourself to eat less you fucking niggers. Your body will stop asking for food 2 weeks in.

Source: Me. I eat between 1000 and 1200 kcal a day with maybe a cheat day once a week and already lost 23kg since february.

tip: don't be fat in the first place

i'm 6 feet and 166 pounds get on my level losers

>>38097743
vegetables are fucking gross, dude

>>38097743

>veggies

Low-test beta detected

>>38091605
Uhhh, you can eat 2k calories at pretty much any weight over 250 and still lose 2 pounds a week. Its harder, but I have been doing it.

>>38092505
In what country 100g of spaghetti amount to 150 cal?
Spaghetti Barilla is 359 cal for 100g, and it's almost the same for any other kind of pasta, really.

>>38093323
>does it feel like it takes a lot of effort just to move?
Yep, moving is painful and makes you go out of breath fairly quickly.
>are you sensitive to textile stimulation?
I don't understand.
>get hot often?
When I was fat, I used to get hot all the time and I was always sweating like a pig.
Now that I'm not, and haven't been for many years... nothing changed.
I still sweat way more than normal people, I hate summers and I enjoy nothing more than some real, brutal cold.

I get sweat stains on my shirts from walking in the sun for 3 minutes. Again, not fat.

Also, because I was fat during my teenage years, my body adapted to it in a really disgusting way, it made me grow tons of body hair as to protect my fucked up sweaty ass skin from whatever the fuck is between me and the hair.
My back is hairy as fuck. No skinny dudes I know have hairy backs, just me.

Listen to my advice, if you have any nephews or nieces, make sure they eat well and don't put on weight. Tell them there's going to be enough time to do so once they're past puberty. Because this is really fucked up.

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>tfw cant overcome cola addiction

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>Hurr it's hard to lose fat

Look at how inconsistent my shit is and I'm still dropping kg's easily and weekly.

All you have to do is

>Download myfitnesspal
>Use http://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/ to estimate your TDEE and then go ~500cal under
>Swap normal soda for diet/zero sugar
>Get fast food without the chips and drink
>Cease snacking inbetween meals
>Buy a kitchen scale for $10 and weigh your shit because you're overestimating how much you need

If you can't do this easy shit, I doubt you actually want to lose weight.

I actually enjoy food a fuck load more now because I eat less of it, so I only eat stuff I like. I do work out now as well, but when I was losing the majority of my weight I didn't bother doing more than 30 minutes of walking every couple of days.

t. former fatfuck who went from 95kg to 67 and still going

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>>38099001
Same height as you, and you're basically at my goal weight (165). I weigh in at 198, down from 220 lbs in January. I'm not dieting or hitting the gym every day, I'm just making lifestyle changes that I can personally keep up for the rest of my life. I walk 10k steps a day, include fruits and veggies with all my meals, and count calories.

I tried fasting, long distance running, keto, liquid diet, and lifting, but I was miserable the entire time.

>>38093325
Stay strong anon. Maintain control and outlive them

>200+ calories for a single piece of bread toasted and buttered
What kind of bread do you fucking eat?

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>age 24
>didn't really give a shit about weight, don't care about how I look I work third shift anyway
>6'0", 295 lbs
>legs started hurting and I can no longer sit on computer chair for long periods to do the things I love
>fuck this
>now at 237 lbs after a couple months
>legs feeling better

I look better now but looks are not my motivation for weight loss. I just want to be able to sit for long hours and play videogames or do art, and I realized being a fat fuck will make that difficult as I grow older. My biggest fear is once I reach my desired BMI that I'll put it the weight back on though, cuz this is the first time I've tried losing weight.

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>>38091605
It's irrelevant just look AT WE THE BEST MUSIC DJ KHOLOD

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>tfw intp autist
>get too engrossed in shit to even remember to eat
>hate the idea of getting fat, mentally deny pleasure responses from food.
>manage to barely eat one shitty meal a day and vitamin supplements
>perminant skeleton mode

I wish I could give you guys some self control advice, but I have zero self control. I'm just killing myself from the opposite direction.

>>38091605
>counting calories
Just go low carb and cut all your sugar and flour
Not that hard you fat fuck

>>38092385
you would become a beastly powerlifter with these stats and bulk.

give it a go.

>>38097168
does cutting diet soda actually work? That is one thing i like the most

>>38101289
I think he meant replace regular with diet soda. Diet soda has no calories so it should make no difference.

>>38101311
i thought the same too but i can't be sure. I think it makes one more hungry

>>38101330
Not sure about that. Doesn't seem like a very scientific statement, perhaps for some it's true, and some not. Personally I wouldn't give up diet soda because it makes otherwise bush league meals edible.

I'm currently 5'9" and weigh 310. A couple of years ago I weighed 430. I lost my weight by changing my diet and walking and progressing to harder workouts. No more sugary foods. Lots of beans and lean meats and I drink coffee like a mad man. My goal weight is 240 and swole.

>>38101330
When I was cutting (203 to 184) I would buy two liter bottles of regular soda, pour like half a glass, and have it with my meal alongside a full glass of water. That way you can enjoy the flavpr but you aren't trying to quench your thirst with it. Helped me a lot.

>>38091605
I'm trying to fucking GAIN WEIGHT here and I'm having a hard time eating enough calories and protein

JUST

How about eating something healthier than donuts, buttered toast, sweet buns or chocolate biscuits?

>>38093047
then fuck off and stay a fattie 4ever

>>38101455
Peanut butter is the GOAT for weight gain

>>38099095
here in finland its 140 cal per 100g of spaghetti, guess amerifats have a way of fucking everything up if they somehow have more than 2x the calories in the same food.

>>38101537
maybe after boiling

its 350 kcal for 100g of unboiled pasta

>>38101442
i like diet soda more than regular one that is not a problem for me

>>38099110
i drink like 3l of coke daily and im not a fat fuck so i don't see how that relates

>>38101400
coffee is based for appetite suppression

>>38101565
you do realize 100g of unboiled pasta is quite a big meal right

>>38101569
Lots of empty calories in soda if you drink a lot of it tho

>>38101581
>you do realize 100g of unboiled pasta is quite a big meal right
It's not that much.

I basically cut out all baked goods when I was dieting, shit is just too high in calories. I only ate meat, fish and vegetables

>>38092271
I hate to be that guy, but what app is that?

>>38101593
wouldn't really consider it "empty calories" its energy and humans need energy to function, just energy in and energy out and the more you exercise the faster your metabolism becomes and the easier it is to lose fat while you can still eat pretty much anything you want.

>>38091605
Op if your pic related is representative of your body type then you absolutely do not need to consume less than 1400 calories a day to lose one pound a week. 2000 calories is usually what an average sized, inactive man (I'm assuming you're male) has to eat to stay at their current weight however if you are taller or fatter than the average person your baseline is much higher. For example I'm currently on a diet and with my height, weight, and activity level I can consume 3100 calories and maintain my weight (that's quite a bit higher than usual as I have a summer job where I'm required to be very active). If you want to eat more just exercise more, you don't even need to go to a gym, walking on a treadmill or around your neighborhood is the best way to lose calories.
There are calculators online that will help you figure out what your calorie baseline is. If your baseline is actually just 1900 then I doubt you have to lose weight because you're skinnier than the average man.

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>>38101639
>falling for the calories in calories out meme

>>38101683
is this bait, it better be son

>>38094701
fagtermittent fasting is a meme

>>38101683
Off urself non-science fag

>>38101739
>>38101751
You are like the people who think saying "just practice bro lol!" is good enough for someone to learn a talent like art. Some people just aren't genetically capable of telling their body "okay here's this amount of calories, start losing weight!" just like how most artists have to be naturally gifted in art to actually become really good at it.

>>38101631
Sure. I just meant empty in that there's little nutritional value to it and it provides little in the way of satiety. Tastes damn good though

>>38094701
i eat at 4 pm. dont you go for 16-8 hour cycle?

>>38101821
there's a difference in the lack of talent and being weak willed also anyone can become a decent artist / not obese the talented people just have it easier, sure you can blame it on the genetics that you are a weak bitch but that's what a weak bitch would do.

>>38093325
I fucking hate that shit
>tell me I need to lose weight
>get offended when I don't want whatever they brought home
MAKE UP YOUR MIND

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>>38101821
>genetically incapable of losing weight

>>38101400
awesome man, dont give up and im sure you will make it

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>>38101971
>Anon, if you don't eat this I'm not making you anything else tonight, this is what we're eating!
>o-okay mom, maybe I'll just have one bag of cheese curds from culvers instead of 2 bags. And only a small concrete mixer instead of a large
>maybe I'll have just 1 butter burger instead of 1 butter burger plus half of what my mom ordered because she never finishes the whole thing and also some of her fries too

Fuck my family for sabotaging me. I'm trying to good, god dammit.

>>38092883
You do realize the sugar gets absorbed through your gums?