How many dates do you need to go on before it's acceptable

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>>38085098
>he wants to hold hands
degenerate

>>38085098
approximately zero
if she doesn't want to hold hands with you it's best to cut your losses

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>>38085098
>>38085267

I mean this might be a trick question since some girls will make out with you or give yu the succ or totally have sex before they're ready to hold hands.

Holding hands is some "this is a real relationship" intimacy shit, especially holding hands in public.

As a cyborg, I would say maybe two or three.


Then there's the flipside of traditional girls who will hold hands on the first date and won't put out after like weeks.

Second. If she agrees to a second, she should be comfortable with at least physical hand holding.

>>38085098
>with girls: 2
>with guys: 3

>>38085267
What if she wants to but is shy?

>>38085367
I've gotten her to agree to a second.
Yes I'll leave as soon as she becomes my gf, if she does.

>>38085412
At that point being friends/aquatinted is the best, no further relationship. Needs to work that shit out