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Woman hate threard - My little sister has become a full on liberal

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How does this shit even happen. She used to be so innocent and sweet. When she became a teenager she started wearing more and more revealing clothes, then a boy she liked became a vegan and a feminist and it's all been downhill from there. Just today this happened

>super hot day
>I decide to chill in the back garden with a book
>16 year old sister is there fully fucking nude
>ask her to put her tits away
>"if you don't like it anon just look away"
>start talking to her about why women cover up their tits in public, give gives the old feminist "they're not even sexual organs so what does it matter?, not my problem people stare"
>she clearly fucking likes random dudes looking at her tits
>I propose a hypothetical
>if you where on a nudist beach, with a boyfriend, and he calmed said "look, I don't really feel comfortable with us getting nude and having strangers gawk at us, could we maybe keep some clothes on?"
>I shit you not her response was "it's not my problem if he doesn't want strangers staring at me, that's on him. Plus I probably wouldn't ever date a guy with opinions as ass backwards as that!, I can do what I want!!"

Girls have lost all respect for men. They seriously think they can do whatever the fuck they want and men, even their boyfriends and family members, just HAVE to accept it otherwise it is somehow oppressive. How long before she starts justifying full on cheating? The worst part is that I've witnessed this entire process. She used to be so sweet and innocent. (((they))) have corrupted her with their propaganda, as they're doing to all women. Stay vigilant, robots. Also how have women pissed you off this week?
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>>37795049
I think she wanted the dick anon
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>>37795105
maybe if I was a socialist progressive vegan into cuck porn but I'm the opposite of that and remember "I would never be interested in a guy I slightly disagreed with morally!"
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>>37795049
rate her outta ten
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Just tell her that you are disappointed in her and that you no longer love or respect her as a person.

Just for added effect tell her the sun is going to prematurely age her skin so she'll look like an old hand bag by age 30.

Next time shes naked take pictures/pretend to take pictures and when she gets mad tell her not to have such backwards views about people seeing her naked then tell her you are going to upload them online.
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Your sister is right though. If men should have the autonomical right to go topless in public so should women.

>mfw I'm a vegan too
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>>37795175
FREE THE NIPPLE.
WNBR.
giggle it. yee.
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Get naked too.
Like for real.
If she complains then there's the hypocrisy.
You should seriously do that.
Even if you get a boner, it's only natural.
If she's feeling uncomfortable it's her problem.
It seems crazy but it might work.

Also, start jerking into her panties.
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>>37795049
you didn't act like a predator?
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>>37795049
>Girls have lost all respect for men.

Your paradigm is entirely wrong. With that logic, she could shame you for revealing your own chest.

There is nothing wrong with girls revealing breasts. Multiple ancient and contemporary cultures never even bothered with covering breasts.

Thinking breasts are somehow taboo is just a product of our western culture.

>How long before she starts justifying full on cheating?

This has nothing to do with cheating. It hardly has anything to do with sex and relationships. You just made it such with your hypothetical scenario with a boyfriend.

Also, you're a fucking retard:

>if you where on a nudist beach, with a boyfriend, and he calmed said "look, I don't really feel comfortable with us getting nude and having strangers gawk at us, could we maybe keep some clothes on?

Why the FUCK would they go on a nudist beach if they didn't want strangers seeing the gf's breasts? You're such a fucking brainlet, holy shit.
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>>37795205
I actually don't know what WNBR means, but let's get legit for one minute here, do you not see some measure of absurdity in the reality that wearing a t-shirt like picture related is 100% legal in public, but to remove the top and expose actual breasts can get you locked up?
Physiologically there is no real discernment between the male and female breast barring increased tissues and the fact that women can produce greater quantities of milk. In fact even men can produce milk also.

It's a really stupid, anachronistic practice with no place amongst logic and reason.
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>>37795249
oh wow, hypocrisy. that'll solve everything.
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You have a couple options at this point.

Invite your "friends" over and tell them your sister is naked. Make sure they have 0 charisma and are manlets to prevent any of them from making advancements.

Take all her shirts from her room and hide them. Tell her she doesn't need shirts if nude sexualization is a social construct.

Some other shit, idk. Maybe just let her delve deeper into the abyss and hope she doesn't interfere with your life later on.
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>>37795049
Flop out your dick start jerking when you see her tits.It'll be either

>Ewwww Anon. Stop staring at my tits

Or

>"Anon thats gross. Stop jerking"
>"Stop staring at my dick. I don't even care if anyone stares at my dick"

Fact is with her attitude she's in big trouble. Achmed and his friends would rape and beat her for showing tits.
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>>37795249
I don't think she had her vag out, so she'd go "well that's a sexual organ, it's different".

Lay down with your butt sticking up in the air and spread your cheeks towards the sun. Tell her you're trying to tan your asshole, and if she has a problem with it, she can just look away.
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Why do you have an issue with this?

The fact that nudity is considered sexual in any and all situations isn't natural, it's only been that way for a short while and it isn't like that in a lot of cultures. It's not your sister fault that you are uneducated, close minded and don't like seeing some titties.
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>>37795275
Based as fuck.

oh come on not original hue hue
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>>37795165
Just looks wise? Well conventionally she's very attractive. Large tits, a good butt, wide hips but not fat or anything. But she's not my type at all, I'm more into skinny girls with smaller tits and cute faces. Not that my sister has an ugly face or anything.

so for me I'd rate her like a 6/10 just based on looks alone, her shitty personality brings her down to a 3/10 in my opinion. Most guys would probably rate her like a 9 or maybe 10/10.

>>37795170
Honestly I'm not that shallow. I do still love her and respect her as a person. Just because we disagree on something I'm not going to disown her as my sister. I just hate what she's become, and am afraid she is on the path to becoming a lonely 30 year old whore with no one to ever truly love her as a partner. That's what happens to all these turbo liberal retards.

>>37795175
I agree legally. Women should, and in a lot of places do have the right to be topless. I just don't think it's a good idea for them to do so. Morally I'm against it but I don't think my personal morals should be the basis for legislation. But, like in the hypothetical, if they have a boyfriend who doesn't like strangers staring at their gfs tits, I think it's super disrespectful to just ignore and and just say "fuck you I do what I want!"

>>37795249
topjej

I'd rather prove my point with good arguments over hypocrisy/ stooping down to her level degeneracy.
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I literally see nothing wrong with her not covering her boobs. Guys with bigger tits than some girls do it all the time. You're a fucktard, OP.
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>>37795175
She was nude
You saying dudes can also helicopter their dicks around in public?
Equality, baby!
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>>37795049
>if you where on a nudist beach, with a boyfriend, and he calmed said "look, I don't really feel comfortable with us getting nude
Is this the stupidest hypothetical of all time?
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>>37795356
you seem way to reasonable to start a women hate thread
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>>37795356
Okay fair enough, you sound like a reasonable guy, but I'm really gonna need to expand on the whole;

>morally I'm against it

Where does morality come into it? Do your sister's tits molest children and murder old men in their beds?
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>He's covering his sexual organs!
>What's wrong with him walking around like this?

Accept it, not everyone wants to see almost naked people walk around in public and everyone should have the human decency to dress properly.

>>37795301
The point is that you have to make her feel uncomfortable.

>>37795302
This is pretty good.

>>37795356
You need to have sex with her Anon.
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>>37795421
>skipping leg day

how dare u
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>>37795356
>But, like in the hypothetical, if they have a boyfriend who doesn't like strangers staring at their gfs tits, I think it's super disrespectful to just ignore and and just say "fuck you I do what I want!"
It's super disrespectful to assume ownership and control of someone else's body just because you're their "boyfriend".

You sister is 100% in the right. If she wants to be nude in the backyard, that's entirely a matter for her.
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Rape her. She'll be mentally damaged and will be afraid to be naked even in the privacy of her own bedroom. That'll teach her a lesson.
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>>37795273
because I'm not an incestuous degenerate

>>37795275
Like I said previously, I don't have a problem with them legally being allowed to do it. There is a difference though. Men are really attracted to breasts and are more predatory towards exposed breasts than women are when compared to a man's chest. I don't like that a lot of men are this way but it's the unfortunate truth and I simply don't think it's wise to walk around with your tits out for this reason. Additionally if your boyfriend doesn't want everyone seeing your tits I think you should respect that and not get them out in public.

The cheating thing was hyperbolic I know, but I have seen her going further and further down this slippery slope, it is totally possible for her to one day justify cheating with her "fuck you I do what I want" line of thinking.

>Why the FUCK would they go on a nudist beach if they didn't want strangers seeing the gf's breasts? You're such a fucking brainlet, holy shit.

You're picking apart the wrong aspects of the hypothetical situation. It was about having respect for your partner.

>>37795409
People do go to nude beaches and not get fully nude. But again, picking apart the wrong parts of the hypothetical.

>>37795411
thanks I guess. I don't hate literally ALL women, I just hate the general attitudes they seem to be developing as of late. A lot of the time women hate threads have a lot of good stat info graphic stuff to support this.

>>37795414
Maybe morally was the wrong word? I just mean personally I wouldn't be okay with my girlfriend doing this shit. And if she wasn't comfortable with me doing something I would respect that. Within reason obviously. But I think showing off private parts of your body in public is a reasonable thing to not be okay with.
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>>37795339
Tits are literally useless meat that serves no other purpose but to compensate the loss of importance the ass has since we adopted the upright gait. The only cultures in which they are on constant display are extremely low tech, low developement usually tribal ones in hot climates who barely wear clothes at all. The only "ancient" high culture that I can think of that did not adopt dress codes including veiling primary and secondary sexual characteristics were the Minoans.

Nudity isn't considered sexual, TITS, ASS, VAG etc are. Tits exist to be sexual. To attract men and appeal to them. No other relative of humans has them. Most of them being flat as hell. None of them having the upright gait. So tell me, are you a roastie or retarded?
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>>37795049
I think it is a little weird girls who go topless on the beach or something is considered weird, but guys aren't, but a lot of people are attracted to tits and it's a fact. So she should cover them if she has a bit of decency.
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>>37795049
do you have a privacy fence? you know people like me have binoculars sitting on my desk, in front of my window. because of pond in my backyard, I can see into around 20 families backyards and house windows
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>>37795049
post pics of lil' sis
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>>37795049
>Girls have lost all respect for men.
And why wouldn't they? You don't even have to leave this board to see how fucking desperate numales are
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>>37795543
act like a predator to make her get her guard up around you
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>>37795573
No, it's not. It's called sexual dimorphism. Tits are a secondary sexual attribute that specifically developed to be attractive and sexualized. Men unless obese do NOT have them and even then there are very few people who would want to see them.
>>37795603
Jokes on you. I'm a bulky fairly muscular guy. I'm the opposite of what people like you want to see. GAZE UPON MY BODY, BREAK YOURSELF ON IT!
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I want to be a 50's housewife desu.
Women don't understand that we're an inferior gender anymore. -n-
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>>37795659
I know that, but it's not "fair". I don't know how much bras cost, but girls always say they're expensive. They have to spent money so people wouldn't feel weird if their nipple could be seen through a shirt
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Hahahaha OP I bet your sister already joined a
gangbang with multiple Chads, you should feel
bad for your sister.
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>>37795700
Life isn't fair. Girls have an assload of other advantages. Stop feeling bad for them because they're effectively walking human incubators.
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>>37795543
>Men are really attracted to breasts and are more predatory towards exposed breasts

They're predatory towards exposed breasts if they're uncouth morons. Every, I repeat, every man is capable of controlling himself and not just jumping at a pair of breasts. That's like saying "men are really attracted to money and are more predatory towards exposed bags which contain wallets". Stop acting like men are uncontrollable beasts.

> Additionally if your boyfriend doesn't want everyone seeing your tits I think you should respect that and not get them out in public.

You're just assuming that the boyfriend should have more rights than the girlfriend. Why would a girl respect a boyfriend's desire to be a prude cuck, instead of him respecting her desire to bare her breasts.

>it is totally possible for her to one day justify cheating with her "fuck you I do what I want" line of thinking.

And I think it's entirely possible for you to justify cheating one day with "hurr durr men are predatory I couldn't restrain myself".

The feminists are literally spot-on about this one. All you want is to control the woman here. It boils down to just that. This pretense that this is somehow for her well-being is inane.

Every living person should be able to sunbathe nude in their garden if they like. Maybe you should just respect her right to dress how she likes AT LEAST IN THE PRIVACY OF HER OWN HOME, instead of demanding that she respects your desire to not see your sister's tits.
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why bother OP, your lil sis is a massive whore and when they turn its usually too late to do anything about it. wait till shes 35+ and desperate and maybe she'll go back into being a nice conservative woman
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>>37795478
It's not about "ownership" you retard. It's about respect for those you love. Making small sacrifices is part of a relationship. I used to have a bad habit of chewing with my mouth open, my girlfriend got kinda grossed out by it. So I made an effort to stop and got the fuck over it because I love her. Are you seriously saying I should have told her to "fuck off I do what I like you don't own me!"

>>37795603
Fortunately, we don't live in a neighborhood as such. We live in a big old country house in a small private wooded area just outside of town. So unless there are creeps in the surrounding trees, I doubt anyone was spying. I actually wasn't too bothered she was nude in the garden. It was her attitude towards relationships and how she seemed like she wouldn't respect a boyfriend at all that troubled me the most.

>>37795633
hell no. Sorry but she used to go on 4chan, one of her friends goes on this board all the time, and I have friends who use this too. I've probably risked too much with what I already said.

>>37795650
Honestly, I agree. Girls aren't even fully to blame for this shit. Not just numales, but Chad types are all elements mixing together to cause this overall degeneracy in a lot of women. It's probably (((them)))

>>37795704
You're probably right. I'm losing all hope in her ever becoming a decent girl.
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>>37795788
>It was her attitude towards relationships and how she seemed like she wouldn't respect a boyfriend at all that troubled me the most.

This is such a stereotypical country bumpkin patriarchal attitude. "Hurr durr respect your man" without the man in question even existing. It's just this a priori demand for submitting to the male regardless of what they want or how they're like.

Stop being so controlling without even having an excuse to do it. I'd completely be on your side if she had a shitstain boyfriend and you questioned her choices. But you're arguing about a hypothetical situation and getting into your fucking sister's future relationships.

I don't get what business you have there uninvited.
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>>37795788
Chewing with your mouth open is disgusting and extremely inconsiderate toward everyone around you, though. She did you a favor. If she'd asked you to reverse some personal choice that isn't in the realm of basic decency, that has become politicized in a way that leaves you and her in opposing camps, then if the matter was even remotely important to you you'd be entirely right to tell her to fuck off.
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>>37795738
Some men are uncontrollable beasts, or are good looking enough to convince any girl to fuck them. I don't like the thought of my sister having a bunch of sex, consensual or not, before she even attempts to find a boy to settle down with because it's going to be very hard for her if she continues down this path of thinking it's ok to not respect anyone. But it's like the door locking thing. Most people aren't interested in breaking into your house so why lock your doors? It's just to be extra safe. Most guys won't rape a girl walking around nude but it increases the chances of it happening so I don't think it's a very wise choice.

>You're just assuming that the boyfriend should have more rights than the girlfriend

No I'm not! Read some of my other replies. I think in a healthy relationship, both parties should respect each-other enough to make small sacrifices in order to satisfy one and other. I know a guy who used to smoke a lot, his girlfriend didn't like it and he gave it up. I think that was entirely reasonable for him to do.

>And I think it's entirely possible for you to justify cheating one day with "hurr durr men are predatory I couldn't restrain myself

stupid argument. I never said men are such beasts that they will, and should be allowed to, just fuck whoever they want. I think that's wrong, I wouldn't do it. And if I did it wouldn't be an excuse, I would have been in the wrong 100%.

I don't want to control women. Legally they should have all the same rights as men and they do. Like I KEEP HAVING TO REPEAT, I think it's ok to make small changes in life to satisfy your partner. If you where in a relationship you'd know that you WANT to make these changes. You want your partner to respect you and you want be be respected by them.

>>37795883
Yes respect your man. Respect your women too. Respect the ones you love you fucking autistic virgin this isn't some crazy controlling demand. Respect is healthy.
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>>37795883
>>37795738
You are either a roastie or a numale who has a subscription to every BBC porn website out there. Jesus Christ. Hillary didn't win, you are a degenerate, Trump will not be impeached, civilized humans wear clothes, and inviting third world mudslimes into your home who can't even read their own language will not progress the world into a united space fairing race.
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>>37795971
>Chewing with your mouth open is disgusting and extremely inconsiderate toward everyone around you, though.

I agree, I'm glad I stopped doing that. But not everyone thinks chewing with your mouth open is disgusting. A lot of people don't care. At one point in my life I didn't care. But my girlfriend did so I stopped. I think walking around naked is disgusting. I wouldn't be comfortable with my girlfriend walking around naked. So she wouldn't walk around naked. Not that she would even want to in the first place. Do you people seriously not get how relationships work THIS much?

>>37796014
I'm going to make a bet on numale
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>chewing with your moth open is disgusting

Fuck off I chew how I want.
I'm not botherning anyone with it.
If you don't like it then just ignore it.
Fucking cunts don't tell people what and how to eat.
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>>37795992
>I don't like the thought of my sister having a bunch of sex, consensual or not

What if she doesn't like the thought of not having a bunch of sex? Why are your feelings more important than her?

>Most guys won't rape a girl walking around nude but it increases the chances of it happening so I don't think it's a very wise choice.

You really don't understand how rapes work. The rapists don't go after the most nude female available. I've never once heard of a woman getting raped on a nudist beach, or sunbathing without her top off.

Why don't you convince her to wear a helmet because a meteor could fall on her head any day? Most meteors won't make it to earth so why wear a helmet? Just to be extra safe. Most meteors won't make it to the earth and hit a girl on a head but having no helmet increases the chances of it being lethal so I don't think it's a very wise choice.

>No I'm not!

You really are. You just don't understand it. You think your sister should "respect" some hypothetical douche by covering her breasts at a NUDIST BEACH. You don't think that the hypothetical boyfriend should respect your sister by letting her BE NUDE AT A NUDIST BEACH.

>I think it's ok to make small changes in life to satisfy your partner

Yeah, so make the change of not having a problem with tits. Easy, isn't it?

>>37796014
I'm not even American, and I read in a country that's 10 times more patriarchal than yours.

I don't understand why my views offend you so much that you have to turn me into some evil SJW boogeyman instead of just giving me some arguments as to why I'm wrong, if you think I am.

> civilized humans wear clothes
Do you wear clothes when you swim at the beach?

>>37796061
>Not that she would even want to in the first place. Do you people seriously not get how relationships work THIS much?

This isn't really about how relationships work. I don't disagree that people should make compromises. But this is not about relationships, it's about your sister.
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>>37796014

Let me just add this

>You are either a roastie or a numale who has a subscription to every BBC porn website out there.

Let's say that I am a roastie. Does this suddenly mean my input doesn't count?

Are you people arguing that you "respect" women, but that their opinion doesn't count?

To address another point:

Chewing with your mouth open is a breach of social etiquette. Not covering breasts is also a breach of etiquette in most societies.

Doing it invites judgment from others. But there is nothing actually wrong with either of them. And there is nothing wrong with not liking either. But there is plenty wrong with forcing your opinion on others and declaring them "degenerate" if they don't agree.
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>>37796146
>aren't even American
And this is why your country will fall first. There isn't even any arguing with you. Society will collapse and you begrudgingly holding onto your Frankfurt school of thought will not stop a knife going into your throat or a truck going 70mph.
>Do you wear clothes when you swim at the beach?
I cover my dick with swim trunks. Do you shower before going into a pool? Who cares if you have been working all day(not like you have a physically demanding job). You definitely aren't a tradesman or someone with a meaningful job. Tell me about those TPS reports and your impact on society.
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>>37796238
I'm not even that guy but I'm gonna interrupt here.

If you don't see that not covering breasts by females and chewing with opened mouth lies on the complete opposite sides of the spectrum of "breaching of social etiquette", then you are seriously one dumb fuck with probably a single digit IQ.
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>>37796238
>everything is a social construct
Ho lee shit. Both actions are regressive. If I shit on the street, but it's not social etiquette, but I want to anyways that makes it ok? There is nothing wrong with it? How about blowing four dudes in a JC Penny bathroom? Touching a kid? You may think these are false equivalencies but the slippery slope is real and "progressives" are already pushing for normalization of pedophilia. They were simply "born with it so deal with it". This mentality is objectively immoral.
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>>37795302
I like this ideas. Reminded me of the time we where arguing about socialism. She thinks it's extremely selfish to be against socialism. So later on in the day I stole half her chocolate bar, then justified it by telling her I was just "redistributing the wealth".

>>37796146
I'm just going to be repeating myself at this point. It wasn't really about me and my thoughts of what she was doing. It was more about how we later got onto the subject of how she would react in a relationship scenario. You're completely missing the point by focusing on the nudist beach thing. It was about not just ignoring what your partners wishes and saying "fuck you I do what I want". I didn't really care too much that she was nude in the garden, that was just the catalyst that sparked the conversation. She in fact politicized it and made it about "free the nipple". Which, again, legally, I don't have a problem with. I just don't think it's good socially to disrespect the wishes of your partner and show off your nude body to everyone. Nude beach or not.

>>37796254
fucking this. I'm a carpenter, I spend all day doing manual labor and I stink like shit when I finish a shift. Legally I'm not obliged to shower when I get home but I do so anyway out of respect for my family members. I don't care if I stink but they sure do, so I make the tiny sacrifice of using 10 minutes of my life to clean up. If I didn't shower when I got home they'd be pretty mad at me. Would I call them oppressive for "forcing me to clean" "stop controlling me family, fuck you I do what I want" It's the same logic applied to a different situation.

For god's sake respect the ones you love or you'll end up sad and lonely.
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>>37796254
>And this is why your country will fall first

My country will fall first because I'm not American? Great argument, burger.

>Society will collapse and you begrudgingly holding onto your Frankfurt school of thought will not stop a knife going into your throat or a truck going 70mph.

My country has not had a terrorist attack since the 90s, and that wasn't an Islamic attack.

I don't see how my society will collapse if I hold a certain belief about women and their right to dress how they want at the beach and in the privacy of their own backyards. I'm not doing anything subversive.

>>37796254
>You definitely aren't a tradesman or someone with a meaningful job

Ok, well, I'm whatever you say you are. We disagree, so you get to decide what I am and how meaningful my job is. That's a very strong argument.

>>37796267
Good argument.

>>37796319
> If I shit on the street, but it's not social etiquette, but I want to anyways that makes it ok?

They literally do that in India. Social etiquette is a social construct per se. I don't know why this is problematic with you.

>How about blowing four dudes in a JC Penny bathroom?

If you do it, I don't judge.

>Touching a kid?

A crime in nearly all societies. Do you see me trying to spin it as relative? Stop strawmanning and pretending I claimed things I never did.

>This mentality is objectively immoral.

We could get into why it it is or is not objectively immoral, but just make a new thread for that.
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OP should really fuck his sister.
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>>37795049
why are women so dumb.
i live with my mom and she breaks sweepers constantly .
i had to buy separate ones ,one for me and one for her for this reason.
i tell her never to use mine its just for my room and area.
she comes down and sneaks and takes mine while i am sleeping. she constantly breaks them cause she never cleans the rollers and uses the rollers on hard wood floor. she just burns them up. i have to buy damn sweepers every 2 months. i tell her stop using mine and she using the same excuse everytime.. "ill get my own when i get paid" what a fucking asshole stop using my stuff.. you can't use anything without breaking it or losing it.
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>>37796406
this, shes still young. you can still change her morals. shes looking for a strong figure, otherwise shes gonna go her own way which is propagandized bullshit

fuck your sister dude, save her
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>>37795049
We all now that it never happened, Anon. Keep your incestual fiction apolitical, please.
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>>37796368
Top fuggen kek. Consent laws and age are also "social constructs" retard. The more third world you go the lower the age goes. Just across the border in Mexico I could fuck a 13 year old on a cocaine and sex bender but I fucking don't. You don't have any realistic view of the world. Your scope is as wide as your nearest wall.
I know you sure as shit don't make the power go on, hook up cat scan machines, or set up emergency generators for schools when the towers get ripped down by tornadoes.
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>>37796332
>It was about not just ignoring what your partners wishes

I know. But let me put it simple, since you INSIST that you're a HURR DURR SIMPLE HARD-WORKING TRADESMAN NOT A SJW NUMALE WHO CAN THINK.

Ok? Here we go:

1) GF wishes to bare breasts at a beach
2) BF wishes for his GF not to bare breasts at a beach
3) GF can respect BF's wish and not bare breasts
4) BF can respect GF's wish and not complain about it.

What's the problem with this?

Your quote:

>I just don't think it's good socially to disrespect the wishes of your partner

Why is it good for a man to disrespect his gf's wishes, but not the other way around?

As for your post

>It's the same logic applied to a different situation.

It really is. But nuance is important.

i.e. it's an important nuance that sunbathing is best done nude. So, if the sister is in her own backyard, what's the problem with it?
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>>37796465
>Consent laws and age are also "social constructs" retard.

I know. But we are talking about social etiquette. It's important to differentiate social etiquette and laws, even if both are social constructs.

>I know you sure as shit don't make the power go on, hook up cat scan machines, or set up emergency generators for schools when the towers get ripped down by tornadoes.

I sure as shit don't. So is your argument that only manual workers should be paid, and everyone else should die? Fuck doctors, fuck lawyers, fuck IT?

You tradesmen are SO FUCKING INSECURE it's retarded.

I've never in my life looked down on someone doing trades. But on the internet and this website, there's this incredible, radiating insecurity coming from a bunch of you. This "I'M IMPORTANT LOOK AT ME IF I DIDN'T CLEAN UP YOUR SHIT YOU WOULD LIVE IN SHIT HAHA I'M SO VALUABLE" mantra of having to stress how important you are. As if people don't fucking know that people need to toil away for shit to be built. As if you're the only ones on the planet toiling away.

Am I supposed to feel intimidated at the fact that you completed a trade school/course and that it's how you're earning your money?

Important people don't need to say they're important 30 times in a thread. Stop acting like a teenager.
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this thread sucks cock and tits
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>>37796548
>Fuck doctors, fuck lawyers, fuck IT?
You are none of these.
>manual workers should be paid, and everyone else should die?
Never said that. I said your job is meaningless and you have no societal impact. It's a point of reference. I am not insecure at all about any of this. You are a degenerate. I never bring this shit up until I encounter people like you.
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Liberal women are ruining this board. Roasties please leave
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>>37796626
>You are none of these.

Tell that to my boss, he'd be interested in knowing he accidentally hired a gender studies-African dance graduate instead of a lawyer.

>>37796626
>I said your job is meaningless and you have no societal impact

Thanks for the motivation.

> I am not insecure at all about any of this

Sure you aren't. I'm sure you're very happy with your education and choices.

>You are a degenerate

I'm a degenerate because I think it's fucking weird for a brother to tell his sister that she should cover up her tits on a nudist beach if her boyfriend says so? I'm a senior degenerate in that case.
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>>37796777
>a gender studies-African dance graduate.

If I hadn't already graduated years ago I would want to study that because it sounds amazing. What would you actually even learn there?

I've not been part of the debate, just lurking, but thought this was a great comment.
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>>37796816
>What would you actually even learn there?

Fuck if I know, I just stole it from some /pol/ thread.
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>>37796777
>you are a lawyer
I weep for any social case that comes your way. Is it weird for a woman to tell her boyfriend to stop looking at other women? To dress nicely? How do you dress to work?
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>>37796855
>I weep for any social case that comes your way

Don't worry, I don't work with citizens.

>Is it weird for a woman to tell her boyfriend to stop looking at other women?

It's not weird, but it's a fucking stupid scenario. I never thought girls controlling their bf's gazes was a sensible thing.

You think I'm some HURR DURR WOMYN POWER dumbass. I'm not. I think overly controlling behaviour is bad on either side.

>How do you dress to work?

The same way everyone dresses in an office.
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>>37796928
So you think there is no other ulterior motive to women freeing their breasts besides "bras are uncomfortable and I like my body". I am comfortable with my body but I don't walk around shirtless at the mall flexing my six pack proclaiming to be a free spirit.
What impact would it have on your career if your plaintiff or defendant knew you just willingly flashed your body to random strangers under the guise that "it is not sexual". I guess you could help out a sexual assault case in the workplace as it is only human nature and natural.
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>>37795049
It would be best if everyone took their significant others into consideration at all times, and I believe this largely happens. Sometimes you will disagree about things (such as your example of nudity, and your example of eating with open mouth). In these cases, it is up to both of you to discuss the issue and find a solution. If no compromise is to be made, the offended party has to wonder whether this relationship was truly meant to be.

Say you think eating with open mouth is a God-given American Right and you absolutely refuse to give it up. You can end the relationship with the girl that demands this and try to find someone that agrees with you on this Very Important Point.

Relationships are no better or worse than in other times, people argue, people disagree, people break up and find better matches. This is not the drama you are making it out to be.
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>>37797028
>So you think there is no other ulterior motive to women freeing their breasts besides

For the situation in which OP's sister was in, sunbathing in her own backyard? Fuck no. On a nudist beach, like OP posted? Fuck no.

>What impact would it have on your career if your plaintiff or defendant knew you just willingly flashed your body to random strangers under the guise that "it is not sexual"

Nuance is everything. You can breastfeed in public in some countries, for example.
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>>37795296
>Physiologically there is no real discernment between the male and female breast barring increased tissues and the fact that women can produce greater quantities of milk.
So there is a difference.

I don't see what you're not understanding here.
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>>37797438
You find no issue with siblings or family being naked around each other? One's own property and isolation is one thing, but a disregard for others and a desire to be looked upon is another. Breast feeding is a gray area, but you know very well that many women abuse this in a provocative way. Tell me you would find no discomfort at all with your father freeballing in front of you. Babbies do need to be on the tit for around 6 months to year for pivotal parent bonding, but to force upon your acts on another is more wrong than me simply stating my opinion on degeneracy. Actions speak louder than words. There are empirical truths about individuals who go out of their way to conduct themselves in such a manner. Narcissism and psychopathy come to mind. Overindulging in these behaviors have had and will continue to have societal impacts. Moderation, self control, and self awareness are traits lacking in this generation.
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Anyone have that image of all the women who left their men/ rejected men and are now lonely/killed themselves laying around?
It had some daily mail articles and stuff
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>>37795371
Imagine getting ur first gf. You go to the beach with her and she's topless. Bunch of guys looking ofc. She likes the attention. Otherwise she wouldn't do it. Telling your sister that this is ok is the same as saying i am ok with my sister becoming an attention whore. Do you honestly want people to stare at your sisters or gfs tits all day
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>>37795409
Dude you have probably been on a nudist beach too. You just don't know it because not everyone is nude on a nudist beach. It just means that it is ok to be nude there. You'd be surprised by how many beaches allow nudity. Think again fucker. You are the brainlet here.
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>>37798372
>Otherwise she wouldn't do it.

For many this is true, for OPs sister it is true. But there should be equality anyway. Maybe she's doing it for the same reason as we would. It's hot and the sun feels good on skin - not just clothing.

If the beach only had hetero women and gay males and she still wants to go topless then that should be fine right?
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I found out my female coworkers tried to get me fired. I had an hour long meeting with my supervisor and manager telling me to watch what I say and watch my back. They both kept mentioning how I need to be careful around women and their emotions. What a fucking joke.
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>>37798494
A woman's breasts are not the same as a man's.

Please stop this nonsensical analogy.
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>>37798561
They aren't exactly the same, no but they should be treated approximately the same because they are extremely similar.

Men can lactate, men have fatty breast tissue, women have pectoral muscles.

I've seen women with better pecs and fat blobs with bigger boobs. It's not just about the size.
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>>37795049
>call the police
>have your sister arrested for sexual harassment/ indecent exposure
>???
>profit!
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>>37798545
shoot the place up anon!
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>>37798605
>they are extremely similar.
In a normal, healthy human being they absolutely are not similar, you're either a fucking retard or you're trolling.

Is a roided up woman's over developed clitoris now similar to a male's penis? Do you actually believe the crap you type?
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>>37795049
the right thing to do is just go out naked and if she complains tell her to fuck off
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>>37795049
>start talking to her about why women cover up their tits in public
Which is why exactly?
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>>37798669
74% of men in my country are overweight. "normal" isn't normal anymore hun

And yeah I think everyone should be able to go topless without pindicked tryhards making a production over it.
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>>37798605
>Men can lactate
Yeah high estrogen outliers sure. "Men" can also have a vagina as well as a penis at the same time. Completely and totally normal.
>women have pectoral muscles
This is basic fucking anatomy for the arms to function. Women have less sinews in their muscles, have higher body fat, and weaker bone structure. They are not made for physical abuse or weight carrying.
>inb4 getting fat on Ultimate Cheeseburgers and lugging around an 8lb baby is weight carrying
Women's tits are purely visual sexual attraction and capability of bearing children, meanwhile men's pectorals are a physical representation of strength. It's what the pecs represent in what they do in a day to day setting. Status and physical activity rather than raw secondary sexual organs.
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>>37798781
It doesn't matter how many fat, useless, transgendered degenerates your country has.

We are a sexually dimorphic species, there is a difference between male breast development and female breast development, even if you do happen to be a fat piece of shit. That dimorphia is the reason women traditionally cover up their breasts.
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