Virgin femanon here. Men: why do you constantly beg women to

waaaah, cry some more faggot

>>37443914
Do what you like, femanon. You'll never please everyone, so may as well please yourself.

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>>37443914
What you're doing is browsing r9k and assuming all of us need to beg for sex.

Please leave, you know there is no logic in any of the mentioned and yet you try and look for it from the retards that believe in what they say

>>37443914
There's a pretty clear distinction between casual and relationship.

Most men wouldn't care about having a casual ONS with a roastie, but they don't see them as potential partners in a relationship.

>>37443914
date me in an original way

>>37443914
It's almost like men aren't a hive mind and you're just lumping together a bunch of unrelated opinions into some stupid fucking strawman argument.

Fucking dumb whore.

Why are you a virgin? Because you're fat?

>yet when a woman has sex with a man, even when she's in a serious committed relationship, she's a worthless slut/whore?
Who says this? Virgin boys just want someone that hasn't had a history of casual sex, for good reasons.

you're one step closer to being (((controlled))) OP.

>>37443914
>yet when a woman has sex with a man, even when she's in a serious committed relationship, she's a worthless slut/whore?
That's an exaggeration made by people here who are mentally ill or pretending to be mentally ill.
People don't think a woman who has had sex with her long term partner is a worthless slut.

>I used to think sex is a really intimate thing that I'd wait till I'm in a serious, long term relationship for
This is good, do this.
It is casual sex people are judged harshly for, and for good reason.

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just find the right person, whore

>>37443914
>but we're also prudes, we're frigid
You realise these are objectively not bad thing, and are only ever said by men trying to pressure you into sex, or women who feel like they have devalued themselves by having sex and want to do the same to you, right?

>>37443914
>If we're virgins, we're pure, clean, and desirable, but we're also prudes, we're frigid
is this really the worst thing you can come up with? "Oh no, strangers who just want to pump and dump me will THINK bad things about me!"?This is what keeps you up at night? You think its better to be a slut because then garbage people wont think you're a prude?

The fact that this non-issue is so commonly used to defend sluttiness is why no one takes women seriously.

>>37444110
This post just overflows with virginity.

>>37443914
>Virgin femanon
I don't bloody think so. Women aren't virgin

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>it's another "all men are the same" episode

>>37444258
>he said, on a board that calls all women whores all day every day
Fuck fembots threads but c'mon buddy have some self awareness

>>37443914
A women who has sex a lot is slut and most likely incapable of love, a women who has had a few partners probably loved and when she is with you she still loves them, a virgin girl will have high standards that your average robot can't meet, you're right to say you're screwed but to be fair so are we.

>>37443914
>What exactly do men think women should do?
Who cares? You should be most concerned with pleasing yourself, not everyone else. Which is not to say that you should mindlessly seek pleasure, of course, but rather that you should form your own judgments. Anyone who respects you will understand that, and anyone who doesn't isn't worth your time.

If you want my opinion, though, I think you should just keep your number low and only have sex inside of committed relationships, whether you're a man or a woman. I don't think most people care that much about virginity, but they would like sex to be a meaningful act.

>>37444264
Women are all the same though.
Men aren't.

>>37443914
Hey, me too. I'm a virgin because I consider it something to reserve until you're in a serious relationships, but now the kind of men I like (alternative types) are offput by my virginity, whereas the men who like me for it are conservative assholes who want me to be their house slave.
Thinking of paying a male escort at this point, just to get rid of it.

>>37443914
Your father should have given you away for a dowry you fucking object

>>37443914
>What exactly do men think women should do?

I think you should bear my children.

>>37444283
>the kind of men I like (alternative types) are offput by my virginity
Maybe don't mention it on the first date, then.

>>37444264
>/r9k/ is the same person
Anon, please. You are killing me here.

>>37443976
This. Most of us don't require pure virgins, just someone who doesn't bounce on her chad friends' cocks all the time

>>37443914
>serious committed relationship, she's a worthless slut/whore
god I love it when words get shoved in my mouth
and who wouldn't? how else would you always be in the right in whatever you viewpoint is?
what fun

>>37444336
I don't. It's just that I got close with one guy, and then he left my house before we did anything and told his friends. I live in a fairly small place and that kind of gossip basically ruined my chances.

I figure that's a good thread to ask:
What if I'm a virgin because I've literally never felt the urge to sleep with anyone? I'm not asexual but so far I've never once met or seen a guy that made me think "yes, I'd like to sleep with him" - I assume that makes me pretty much undesirable for most men.

>>37443914
Women's primary function is sex. If you haven't had sex you are a hot commodity. It's like a new car. Once you drive it it loses its value very fast until it's all used up at which point more driving doesn't change its value much. People are insecure so they want a new car and make fun of people who have old used cars.

>>37444382
Well, that's depressing. No point in men at all then, if they think like that, is there?

>>37444373
>I'm not asexual but so far I've never once met or seen a guy that made me think "yes, I'd like to sleep with him"

That's because you haven't seen Chad. Just do it like modern women and go hunt your own Chad in dating sites or Tinder.

>>37444373
That is the definition of asexual. Welcome to le cake meme (non)sexuality.

>>37444373
I assume you've had some sort of attraction to guys, just not real life ones I take it, are you disappointed men in real life aren't like your fantasies or media?

>>37444397
Chad is a meme. He doesn't exist.

women should get pumped and dumped
/thread

>>37444397
I've seen a lot of attractive men, I'm not blind. I just wouldn't want to sleep with them.
And tinder seems to be mostly for hookups which I'm not into at all.

>>37444402
I mean, I still have a libido though? I get horny and whatnot.

>>37444416
Maybe I guess. I wouldn't say I have a "dream guy" that every real man falls short of or anything. I've been attracted to men, just not strongly enough to want to get dicked by them. It's always been more of a "I want to kiss him" thing.

>>37444373
>What if I'm a virgin because I've literally never felt the urge to sleep with anyone?
then you're a virgin? I don't get the question
am I supposes to solve your sexual issues?

>>37444444
four four four four four four
nice hexa

>>37444435
You think you would kiss a guys dick?

These guys you're attracted to are they masculine or feminine?

>>37443914
>What exactly do men think women should do?
Wait until you're married. It's objectively the best course of action. It will lead to a healthier relationship, and remove a lot of possible tension and insecurity that may arise. Also your chances of divorce increase depending on the number of sexual partners you've had. Don't let people tell you that waiting for the right time is "prude" or "frigid"; those are either men who want to sleep with you and then disappear, or women who subconsciously recognize that being a virgin until marriage is better, and want to drag you down to their depravity with them, so that they won't have to confront their own failure.

>>37444444
dem fours though

>>37444483
Aha, well that's not something I think about often, but I guess.
Not classically masculine I guess, like not these huge hairy loud monsters. Just a normal guy I guess.

Look, I sleep around, and you're deluding yourself. The only men who care are ones like on here.
>inb4 roastie
Eh, I'd rather simply satisfy my sexual impulses once in a while than actually date a man. If that makes me a roastie, then I am one. I can't bring myself to care particularly.

>>37444506
and that's fine
as long as when you hit the wall you don't marry some poor sap for his money
because then you're scum

>>37443914
Stupid question. People are egoistic and obsessed about sex, either adapt or keep getting your panties wet and ego boosted from anonymous whiteknights reassuring you that you are the purest lily in the lake and you should become their gfs which you will obviously have to decline while having an orgasm.
>>37444444
its ok i noticed your get

>>37444506
Question, what's the advantage of sleeping around compared to just masturbating? I figure sex without any romantic feelings just feels empty anyway. (and apparently most guys aren't all that great in bed in any case)
I'm >>37444373

>>37444531
Nope, I'm well off and have a good job, and no maternal instinct. I'd rather have the courage of my convictions and live with whatever consequences, good or bad, they bring.

>caring about what men especially autistic virgins think about you
wtf

>>37444543
Dicks feel pretty good, and usually you can, if you also go down on them, convince them to do oral which feels way better than masturbating.

>>37443914
I don't see how all those opinions hold equal weight in your mind. I think you're just trying to rationalize to yourself that there's no way of telling up from down, so you might as well have the right amount of sex that most fulfills you.

Repressed virginity of this kind is a dam waiting to break, so it's probably better if you opened the floodgates at your own pace.

Basically, do what you were gonna do anyway. You know what that is, not me.

>>37444283
If you are in Australia you can date me? I don't even look that bad and I have never had gf

>>37444435
You can have a libido, get crushes, want to date somebody and still be asexual. Asexuality is about not being sexually attracted to others, not having no sexual/romantic attributes at all.

>>37443914
>What exactly do men think women should do?
Loose it to your future husband and never have sex with anyone else.

>>37443976
This. Don't whine because Chad tricked you into giving away the only thing that gives you any worth

>>37443914
>Virgin femanon here
Yeah sure.
>/r9k/ is a hivemind

>she's a worthless slut/whore?
Sex inside a serious relationship = Okay
Sex with different men like "liberated" women like to do nowadays = Not okay

Casual sex is gross desu

Ok so I had many gfs. This may enlighten you.

Casual sex without affection is boring to me.

Sex with a long term partner eventually gets boring.

I used to think of sex as a very special connection. Turns out to most women it isn't it's just a jolly good time to be had with whatever Chad they fancy at this point in time.


Female virgins think sex is special until they do it once then it's just another fun thing they can do. They don't think of the potential consequences

>>37443914
>replaying to bate thread

anyway you seem to be a huge faggot for listening to shit on this website.

>I used to think sex is a really intimate thing
It is you retard, just need to find right person

here's a bit of advice, once you get with some one, don't have sex with them for for a while. If they leave you for that and don't wait until ur "ready" they were not the right guy.

that's what my current gf did with me, took bloody 6 months until we actaully did it. and were still together after 2 years.

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>>37444204
t. roastie who can't handle the simple truth
keep being toastie

you are being too black and white different people think different ways. some might like (non)virgins and others might not. i personally dont care but would prefer a virgin because i have some ocd tendencies and FREAK about stds. my gf and first partner was a virgin. i appreciated it. now that she's not she really enjoys sex. its fun and i still see her as pure since she is loysl to me. go ahead and have sex. it is ok, but there are non sex things that are better. also virgin women tend to get really clingy to the first guy so keep thst in mind.

>>37443914
i have no idea what are you talking about... i did have sex vith a virgin and i dont want that anymore... virgins cant fuck

>>37444368
Weird. I can't fathom why there would be such a stigma about it. But if it ever got out that you're not a virgin any more because you slept with a prostitute, I can't imagine that would be any better.

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>>37444283
unironically L O N D O N

Most robots (dunno about normies though) want a virgin gf not because they're judgemental themselves, but they're frightened you will be of them.

I don't mind if she's fucked a few dudes before, I just don't want her to be jaded and constantly comparing me unfavourably to some 10 inch Chad who pumped and dumped her. Honestly you sound like my ideal girl, and the shit that happened to is almost unheard of unless the genders were flipped in which case it's distressingly common

>>37443914
>why do you constantly beg women to have sex
I do not I barely talk to women
>love you
I do not I barely talk to women
>cater to all of your fantasies etc
I do not I barely talk to women

>I see men begging women
Ah I see we are playing the lived experience I see game!

I could easily paint women badly with my I saw women do X and judge them all based off that

OPs rating
Male roleplayer/10

>>37444444
Just came her to say nice sextuple's

>>37444283
The fuck is an alternative type

>>37444829
Guys that pump and dump, apparently.

>>37444829
>The fuck is an alternative type
Punks, intellectuals etc. Basically anything outside the basic normie type of man, but not a conservative person either.

>>37443914
>What exactly do men think women should do?
tits or gtfo

>>37444110
>>>If we're virgins, we're pure, clean, and desirable, but we're also prudes, we're frigid
>You realise these are objectively not bad thing, and are only ever said by men trying to pressure you into sex
no faggot
these are said by girls

>>37443914
>Virgin femanon here.
stopped reading there

if anyone actually believes this crap they need to GET THE FUCK OFF THIS BOOOARD!!!


I want that qt in the picture tho

>tfw used to be a conservative good girl and then realised that I would be in for a lifetime of being subordinate, the support, etc. to a man
Now I've had a couple of bfs, and even the pain of breakups etc is till better than what it would have been if I'd stayed on the straight and narrow and godly path.

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Imo manwhoring should be viewed as bad as used up roasties but it's roasties' own fault that this happens so there's pretty much nothing to do. It feels kinda ironic to see roasties complaining here when they are the enablers of the Chad behavior.

>>37444864
Maybe you should've kept reading instead of kneejerk reacting.

>>37444873
You will die alone. Men don't want women that have had many boyfriends, they want one with minimal or no past relationships.

>>37444951
>You will die alone. Men don't want women that have had many boyfriends, they want one with minimal or no past relationships.
Funny. My aunt and uncle had both had a fair few, say, 5 or six, relationships when they met. They're still together. I know lots of couples who have screwed around a bit who are married or engaged.
Do not conflate your own view with everyone.

>>37444579
(((Asexual)))

Originally

>>37444283
>conservative assholes
these are the good men
visibly you dont deserve them
so why dont you slut it up like the rest of the degenerate librul trash you share the views of

>>37444974
But do they have children? If no, then the point still stands.

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>>37444849
virginity gives you value for a lifelong marriage deal
which is what conservatives want
and what libruls will never be up to
so you might as well dye your hair and put on 50 pounds right away, because all that's left between that and you right now is years of meaningless sex and painful relationships with closet faggots

>>37444283
>the kind of men i like are offput by my virginity

So... Chad?

>>37444996
She conflates being a wife to a house slave, I guess feminism has really infected the minds of women these days.

>>37445030
yup
she wants to be strong and independent and have a career
she hasnt read the already flooding reports of unhappiness and failure of such a life choice

>>37444974
>say, 5 or six,

Depending on age that is rather low. Most people have 8-30, and that is being conservative. I am talking sexual partners.

>>37445054
These are old people. So a lot for their time.
>>37444997
Yes, some do. Some have them on the way, some are planning.

I don't think you should get angry at people for just living the way they want to live. I'm not going to attack you for being a slut. You shouldn't attack guys who say they don't like sluts.

If you live the way you want to live and then immigration says they need to import 15 billion Indian immigrants because there are no white babies just accept that this is the consequences and be okay with it.

>>37444553
>caring about what men especially autistic virgins think about you

>implying we are all that
>implying that it even matters

Still, not an argument.

>>37444996
Sorry, but no. I don't want to be a housewife, and want to be someone'e equal partner.
>>37445030
No, I conflated being a home maker to being a house slave. You can be a wife without being a housewife.
>>37445029
No. Intellectuals and alternative type guys.

>>37445028
I've seen these things work you know. My whole family are alternative/ lefty and happy. That's what I want. Not some straightlaced asshole to slave over, bear children for, feign interest in church for, lose all of my dreams for and probably be beaten for my trouble.

>>37445088
> I don't want to be a housewife,

Why not exactly? Unless a dual income is necessary, there is no real reason besides being "fuck muh gender roles lol"

>>37445122
>Why not exactly? Unless a dual income is necessary, there is no real reason besides being "fuck muh gender roles lol"
Because I find work fulfilling and would find it soul crushing to simply do housework for the rest of my life.

>>37443914
I would say the social expectation is for you to fk whomever you have feelings for and are going steady with.

>>37444876
>t feels kinda ironic to see roasties complaining here when they are the enablers of the Chad behavior.

so much this
it also applies the other way around, Chads complaining about how slutty women are when they're the ones who enforce the behaviour by fucking everything they see

>>37443914
I think you gotta post them nudes femanon

>tfw only a virgin because I unironically hate men and wouldn't let one near me
>inb4 dyke
I'm not a lesbian either.

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>>37445088
>I don't want to be a housewife, and want to be someone'e equal partner.
there are no "equal partnership" relationships that stand. This notion doesnt even mean much of anything, it's a disguise for your will to be in charge
as for housewifing, the point is to offer a mother's presence to your children
so go ahead and be a stronk independent womyn (tm), 60 years after the failure of this lifestyle has started to be recorded

>>37445131
What kind of work are you after? Intellectual work? Because busywork is busywork whether it's at home or in an office.

>>37445131
Do you want kids? How are you supposed to raise them (assuming you want them) whilst working a full time job, and not paying out the ass for childcare or a nanny?

Devoting your life to a career is only worthwhile when you achieve greatness in such a field and be remembered by people only after you die, otherwise you will just be another forgotten person who worked a lot and will have no children to remember them and continue their memory.

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>>37445117
>alternative/ lefty and happy
do tell
how many children
how many grandchildren
how much do they love and care for their parents and grandparents
what you got is a matriarchal nightmare, and an exploded family structure
but hey no worries, rapefugees are coming in to replace your failing birthrates

>>37445172
Why do you hate men? All men or just most?

>>37445172
Do you hate trannies too?

>>37445184
>What kind of work are you after? Intellectual work? Because busywork is busywork whether it's at home or in an office.
I'm on track to acadrmia. That would be something I'm passionate about.
>Do you want kids? How are you supposed to raise them (assuming you want them) whilst working a full time job, and not paying out the ass for childcare or a nanny?
I intend to work fulltime with my partner until we have the child, then both go part time. It worked for my parents, it can work for me.

>>37445088
>No. Intellectuals and alternative type guys.
because they're emotionally stunted nu-males whom are fucking with whore-mommies otherwize they'd value virginity and responsibility

To be honest, as male anon here, I don't really care how much fuck any potential girlfriend needs, as long as she doesn't have stds it's fine with me.
The only problem I have is when a girl goes to find chads to get a good night bang expecting to find a stable relationship. That's not how it works. Tomorrow night chad is out banging some other chick.
Tbh I would like a woman with some sex drive, as long as while she is dating me, that sex drive is directed at only me, and not to random blokes on the street.

>>37443914
>yet when a woman has sex with a man, even when she's in a serious committed relationship, she's a worthless slut/whore?
because she didn't lose her virginity with me, duh

>>37445088
Do you want kids, if so would you give up your career for them?

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>>37445155
no
women are the selectors
men cant make women get loose
they can just profit from their depravation, not cause it
that is caused by women themselves when they are not under strong patriarchal authority
they slut it up down to oblivion, look around
it's an arms race
each new gen is sluttier than the former one in order to steal the available men from their older sisters

>>37445202
>how many children
3
>how many grandchildren
Well, only one on the way but I'm 21, my sister is 22 and my bother is 27 (he's the one who's wife is having the child).
>how much do they love and care for their parents and grandparents
We all love our parents, although family life is strained at the moment because my dad has alzheimers and we're grieving.
>what you got is a matriarchal nightmare, and an exploded family structure
What are you even on about?

Sorry,>>37445189
Forgot to reply. Also >>37445236 this answers your question too.
>>37445213

>>37445204
I hate men because they will always see us as inferior, and true equality of opportunity is impossible because of it. Yes, all of them. No, I'm not a feminist, if I were a feminist I'd be railing against that. Moreso, I've come to accept it and give up on dating.
>>37445211
No. I see no reason to, although SJW types seem really annoying.

Taking memes seriously is bad for your mental health. Stop that right now.

Go outside with your friend(s) on a drink or for an ice cream.

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>>37445238
>Well, only one on the way but I'm 21, my sister is 22 and my bother is 27 (he's the one who's wife is having the child).
that's a dying family line.
i assume you're white
your extended senpai's birthrate is probably 1.5
you're death
your choice is death
your children will hate you
you will die desperate and not surrounded by loving grandchildren
all because you believe housewifing is slavery and conservatives are assholes
how can you be so dumb in these years where this is all exploding and getting exposed
oh right, you're just a girl
what you call slavery, your children would call love and care
as you arent mature enough to decide to provide it, they will fucking hate you
and you deserve it

>>37443914
when you find someone that you genuinely love and that genuinely loves you, you'll stop caring about what others think

>>37445265
Then fuck trannies, if its dick you're after.

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>>37445265
>I hate men because they will always see us as inferior, and true equality of opportunity is impossible because of it.
you've been infected by the kike virus of marxist bullshit
enjoy your ruined life

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>>37443914
STOP!
Asking robots for advice on how to act as a woman is like asking paleolithic Neanderthals how to realign the international space station.

>>37445285
I meant that we're still young enough to have kids later. Very few people have children in their early 20s.

>>37445296
>when you find someone that you genuinely love and that genuinely loves you, you'll stop caring about what others think
still waiting for a person that genuinely loves me
t. 24 khv anon.

>>37445304
>you've been infected by the kike virus of marxist bullshit
>enjoy your ruined life
Why would my life be ruined by not having a man in it? I have no desire for children.

>>37445265
>I hate men because they will always see us as inferior,

On average, women are in some respects. Instead of complaining about it become the best person you can be and ignore preconceived ideas.

> true equality of opportunity is impossible because of it

We already have it under the law, and really that is all that matters. Individuals must rise to the bar instead of thinking they cannot reach it.

>Yes, all of them.

Have you met every man on the planet? Not likely. I hate a large amount of women, doesn't mean I hate them all.

>Moreso, I've come to accept it and give up on dating.

Never accept defeat.

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>>37445323
>young enough to have kids later.
that never works
fuck you and your ignorance
that would have been fine 20 or 30 years ago
but that's inexcusable now
you wont have enough children
you wont devote enough of your life to them
you're the death of your people

>>37445326
Same

I'm still waiting for my SO to be

>>37445330
what kind of a life do you think people have after 40 when they are childless, you humongous retard?

I'm not a virgin, technically. But that was only because I was gangraped by muslim men when I was 13. I never even valued it particularly before, as in, I wasn't religious (although I wanted the first time to be in a committed relationship), but I can't help being angry about that possibility being taken from me.
That, and I'll never have children either, because I was still developing and they fucked me internally.

>>37445347
You're implying that I won't kill myself by age 45 if I don't achieve professional success. Which I was going to do, children or not.

>>37445359
>gangraped by muslim men when I was 13.

Did they at least go to jail?

>>37445339
Why do you think this? And why are you writing like that?

>>37445370
I didn't see their faces, and I lived in a shithole with any number of potential gangs that could have done it. It was out of CCTV coverage. There was simply no way to figure out who'd done it.

MEN are competitive.

You can fuck us, but you can't fuck anyone else. Fucking a particular man is shunning yourself off to the rest.

I'm sorry, but you can't have everyone like you. You have to make sacrifices.

>>37445359
>I was gangraped by muslim men
where the fuck do you live?

>>37445326
either you're not deserving of love right now and should work on yourself or you're not allowing people to know you and should open up

I hope you find someone someday and don't grow bitter like so many on this board

>>37445385
>where the fuck do you live?
A really shitty suburb of an Australian city.

>>37445400
Of course its Straya. Fucking mudslimes.

Men really hate other men, they constantly repress this. It's sort of omnipresent and implicit at all times, you say things like "Bro" literally all the time with a tone that sounds like you're having a small orgasm because your "bro"hood with them is uncertain, it's constantly being challenged by your own natural impulses of male on male aggression. So you have sex with men you are having sex with our mortal enemies.

>>37443914

I'll cut through the bullshit for you:

The PRIMARY offense is using yours sex to achieve your ends, which is what about 75% of all normie fucking whores like yourself DO DO. You trade sex for shit like a whore, then pretend you're not a fucking whore. You are a fucking whore. The fact that you even asked this question without realizing what is the annoying thing indicates you are a fucking whore.

Now not all women are whores, but when I am with a whore I like to know how much and for what and so the ones who just outright say "pay me" are infinitely to be preferred to the variety (which you are) which say "[pay me] ohmygosh u guise y cant a woman just enjoy her freedom [pay for my abortion] more women in stem u guiiisssseeee [pay me to go to uni etc]"

If you fuck guys and DONT EXPECT THEM TO DO SHIT FOR YOU and are an honest, straight up and down, dtf girl and even throw out a few pity fucks now and again like any decent guy would - fine.
If you're going to hold onto your sex for the guy you intend to go into a contract with where you suck his dick forever and he brings home the bacon - fine.
But don't fucking swan around acting like you don't know why men get fucking PISSED with women when the majority of your kind are renting your pussies by the hour but want to be treated like noble, open-handed veterans of the war of like. YOU FUCKING AREN'T.

>>37444849
So you want hipster Chad

>>37445389
>deserving
falling in love is a spontaneous thing. You might fall in love with someone but that doesnt mean that other person will do the same.

>>37443914
Maybe that should indicate that not all men think exactly the same.
Personally I think people (not just women) should remain chaste until marriage but what do I know.

>>37444849
"I'm not like other guys"

That's what you want?

>>37445372
because you're 30 years retarded
i was raised by such a feminist cunt 50 FUCKING YEARS AGO
the web if CHOCK FULL of reasons why this doesnt work, with WOMEN at the spearhead of this rise of awareness
and you're still functioning from the point of view of a cunt of the 80s
wake the fuck up you idiot
your people is getting destroyed and replaced by fucking africans because it fails to uphold a conservative morals standard
and you spit on it

>>37445458
Better than anything else on offer.

>>37445366
you're going to kill yourself at 45?
fitting

>>37445440
what I meant is that you won't get someone to love you if you only know how to hate yourself. You have to be at least somewhat confident about yourself, tone up your personal qualities and work on your flaws. Nobody wants to get close if you can only signal negative thoughts

>>37445490
I would do that regardless of family situation. I don't want to be an old person.

>>37443914

I think women should be decent human beings.

All the rest of your stuff I read as 'blah-blah-fuckin' blah'

Women, don't win, nobody wins.

You're probably so young that you haven't even begun to fully appreciate how much trouble you're in. You've got bullshit ahead, and I don't envy you one bit.

Must as well get a fuck and a cuddle.

>>37445495
>if you only know how to hate yourself
Well, i've failed in that because i only hate myself and life isnt anime where someone saves you or atleast eases the pain.

Reading this thread, how can anybody say that feminism hasn't ruined women:
>Want a fulfilling career
Because nurturing children isn't fulfilling? It's literally the most important job in any society, one without which there is no future. But no, of course you would rather wageslave away in some office or something. Clearly having children can't be as fulfilling as what you do now.
Additionally, why do you get the idea that every conservative man wants you to give up your job immediately? I know examples in my personal circle where two very conservative, religious people got married and the wife worked as a doctor until she had kids and then didn't want to go back to work (even though she planned to initially and the husband was okay with it). Plenty of more traditional men are okay with the woman working as well.

>lifetime of subordinate to man
Even if you end up a housewife, no good man is going to think you are subordinate. It's more like being in a team and you divide roles up to play as efficiently as possible without one member of that team being worth less.

>>37445376
What would you if you found out exactly who done it? What would you do to them?

>>37445400
Which state? VIC?

God females are vile, those artificial wombs can't come soon enough.

>>37443914
>but we're also prudes, we're frigid, and we also have men begging to fuck us

That's what being valuable feels like. If America wasn't so great do you think a literal army of internet shills, communist professors, and other infiltrators would be trying to drag it down all the time?

You should get married to a hard working man and settle into one of the best human experiences available: homemaking & motherhood.

>>37443914
when you view "men" as a whole this is the kind of confusion you get into.

idk why I'm replying, your not a woman nor are you still here

>>37444283
>whereas the men who like me for it are conservative assholes who want me to be their house slave.

No thats just something you made up to indulge your sexual liberation cravings in a guilt free manner.
You want guys who doesn't care about your sexual history? Fine, no one is stopping you, but why do you have to be bitter about guys who would rather steer clear from you because of it?
Seems like a win win for both parties to just avoid each other.

>>37443914
I think you need to find one man, devote yourself to him and be his woman, his wife, his rock, the mother of his children.
Pick him wisely, and once you have him, ignore pretty much every other guy. You can't care what they think, about their jealousy, their anger, their lust, anything. Once you have a man, he is the most important man, for that is the price of you being the most important woman.
But choose him wisely, and yea though it is hard sometimes when so many just want to fuck and leave, you need to resist as long as you can, until you are certain you want this man for the rest of your life, and that he wants you for that time too.
It's not an easy task but if you can manage it you will be one of the best women to walk the earth

>>37443914
>can only think in extremes
You might actual be a real woman.

>why do you constantly beg women to have sex with you, love you, cater to all of your fantasies etc

i never did any of that. still can't win though.

Um, why do you care? Why are you thinking about this instead of working and studying? Who cares what a loser thinks. THIS IS EXACTLY WHY YOU'RE POOR.

>>37446957
>I think you need to find one man, devote yourself to him and be his woman, his wife, his rock, the mother of his children.
With rates of divorces, it's more like 4 or 5 man.

>>37447050
Just because everyone else is doing it, doesn't mean you have to.

>>37443914
>why do you constantly beg women to have sex with you, love you, cater to all of your fantasies etc

I don't do this.
I just try my best not to bother them, I know I'm undesirable.

>>37447072
>Just because everyone else is doing it, doesn't mean you have to.
just like statistically i should've lost virginity in past 25 years but here i'm now.

>>37447127
Precisely, anon. Now you get it.

I'm also a virgin and I planned on saving my virginity until marriage but it feels weird to save and lose my virginity to a guy that's been with a lot of women. I have no interest in sleeping around but it seems so unfair that guys can sleep with a bunch of women but I have to be the one with some self-respect.

It's also weird how men want sex but also want virgins

The only way to not be a slut is to have sex exclusively with your spouse.
This is true for men as well.

>>37447224
yeah i was saving my virginity for marriage as well, but then i learned that society thinks men who can't get sex are pathetic and a laughing stock.

im still a virgin. so i get to live with no sex and the stigma.

>>37447224
>it seems so unfair that guys can sleep with a bunch of women
It's only because men are praised because of having sexual experience while male virgins are treated like dirt.

>>37447181
>Now you get it
Sadly it doesnt mean that i'll get higher chances.

>>37447224
It doesn't seem entirely unreasonable for a virgin to want to fuck a virgin though, does it? I'd say i've missed that train but it doesn't mean I don't want it anymore.

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>>37445214
Pretty much. I can't stand girls like this She's so fucking afraid to admit how shallow she is.

>le I like intellectuals.

You want pic related. whereas, actual guys that share the same values as you tend to be on the opposite side of the surveil.

>>37447224
Then don't. Go for a fellow virgin. There are far more male 20+ virgins than there are female ones. It'll be very easy to find a lot of them and then take your pick of the richest, most chad-like one.

>>37445265
you should be blaming nature and hating nature for making you biologically inferior to men not men.

>>37447224
>but it seems so unfair that guys can sleep with a bunch of women but I have to be the one with some self-respect.

And whose fault is that?
Men are only responsible for demanding chastity from women.
Women are the ones responsible for guys being able to sleep with many women without negative consequences.
Women are the one who place a high value in guys who bang lota of girls.
So why would a guy have a problem with that?
Have some fuckibg agency in your life.
You think it's unfair that guy can sleep around and get shit for it?
Start boycotting such guys.
Don't blame men for the double standard.

>>37447430
Who said that I value men who sleep with a lot of women? I don't. However, I do know that the women who do praise these men (and sleep with them) are at fault

>>37447487
>However, I do know that the women who do praise these men (and sleep with them) are at fault
OK, so they are the problem, not guys who want virgins.

>>37447224
I'm a virgin waiting for the right virgin woman to be in my life but it's difficult to find someone since I'm not good with people in general..

>>37447487
I think it has to do with the sexy son hypothesis. women like men who can sleep with other women because they want their future offspring to have the same traits. if their sons have the same traits then that insure that they can continue passing on her genes.

>>37443914
The only people who would try to make you have sex with them are the ones who call you a prude. I'm genuinely a fairly good guy(look good, good income, in shape, etc...) and I'd be more than happy to wait, even until marriage, I think it's something special to be saved for the right person. Basically the guys who call you a prude aren't what you want anyway. The same way I don't care if the town bike calls me a virgin prude.

>>37447594
That seems plausible. Women want the access to the best possible genes in their vicinity to ensure that offsprings would get the best chances. That's why virgin men are not universally desired - they are failures at genetic level.

>yet when a woman has sex with a man, even when she's in a serious committed relationship, she's a worthless slut/whore
Only insecure reprobates think this. This board especially is full of people that whine about how morally offensive female sexuality is, but they would not hesitate to jump on Tinder and rack up a 3 digit bodycount if only they were Chad.

Anyone reasonable, with the exception of the religious devout, understands how asinine it is to expect someone to hold onto their virginity for no reason other than to give it up to another virgin who will likely end up leaving them soon after. On the other end of the spectrum we have figurative cuckolds that think sexual promiscuity exists in a vacuum and does not have any bearing on the rest of someone's personality and decision-making skills.

The reality is that an atheist virgin is just as repugnant as a (man)whore who has fucked so many people that they lost count. Anyone worth interacting with will have a defined upper limit with a lower bound greater than one. Personally, I wouldn't bother with anyone who has a number greater than 10, because it tells me they are irresponsible and careless with their actions.

>>37445516
what kind of bullshit anon?

>>37443914
>What exactly do men think women should do?
How about you just fuck one man for the rest of your life? Is that really so fucking hard?

>>37447662
>muh arbitrary limits
Each person can decide their limit and it's perfectly reasonable. If I want a virgin it's not unreasonable, it just means I have less to pick from. I've turned down the chance to have sex before, so clearly it's not that difficult.

>>37447734
>It's perfectly reasonable
That depends on why you want a virgin. Is it because you're insecure and worry that you won't measure up to previous partners? Is it because you think non-virgin women and roastie sluts without exception?

>>37447753
Only cucks are cool with sloppy seconds, babe :^).

>>37447753
Multiple reasons, I want it to be a first experience for both of us, I don't like knowing she's been with people other than me, it makes me upset to think about her past.
You can rationalize that sex is just a fun activity and partner count doesn't matter. I don't feel that way, but there is no objective right answer.

>>37443914
Look,I am a man and I like a woman who likes sex and isn't afraid to say it and enjoy it.I don't care if a woman says to me that she had a lot of sexual partners.I dot care at all.Go out and have a good time and don't care about what society says.There is only one thing in my book that can make a woman a whore and thats the act of cheating.If a woman gets bored with me,or doesn't like me anymore I want her to say it to me so we can end the relationship and she can go and fuck anyone she wants.The women who cheat and laugh at their man behind his back are the ones that are sluts.If you can have an honest attitude against your partners just enjoy sex.This is the way it should be.

>>37447753
Not him but i just want a virgin because thats the value i.place i my commitment.
I still occasionally fuck non-virgins but thats about it.
As for your bitter comment, you just resent the fact that you can only obtain intimacy from used up girls and you want everyone else on the same boat.

I would be disgusted to learn that my boyfriend/husband had a high body count

>>37443914
Find a man they love and stick with him, it's not that fucking hard.

>>37447854
>I would be disgusted to learn that my boyfriend/husband had a high body count
You only think it now. Sadly, women desire what other women desire.

>>37447844
>wants a virgin
>far from being a virgin

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>>37447854
>mfw he can easily lie

>>37447884
Being called on it by a guy will change absolutely nothing.

>>37447884
Lock and key analogy, fuccboi.

>>37443914
If a woman is a virgin she's pure and great, if a man is a virgin he's pathetic and a loser, if a woman fucks everything she's a loose whore if a man fucks everything he's a stud and a ladykiller.

>>37447854
Same; I want a pure girlfriend/wife.

>>37447905
Such a simple concept that women and nu-males can't seem to understand.

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>>37443977
This actually.
Who the fuck cares OP?
All of us will be dead in 50 years tops;
why sweat it? Why let the spooks invented by men to make themselves more comfortable control your life? I'm not vouching for you to become a slut; I'm vouching that you let go of society and what it tells you is good or desirable.

>>37447904
that's for casual sex, mate.

>>37447915
I'd be happy if I had a girl that waited for someone and that someone was me. It would make me feel really special and loved really.

>>37447903
>>37447904
Yeah but I'm a girl (not the person you replied to initially)

>>37447809
>it makes me upset to think about her past
Why? Because you're insecure in your ability to perform as well as your ability to learn?
>inb4 "I dunno it just does"
If you cannot articulate why you feel a certain way about something, then perhaps you shouldn't feel that way.
>>37447844
>That's the value I place on my commitment
>I still occasionally fuck non-virgins
So not only do you ignore your own standards for people, but you also expect others to ignore that hypocrisy. I suppose this kind of cognitive dissonance is to be expected from those who rely on ad-hom to argue.

>i want a German Shepard
>cool, dude
>i want a red Volkswagon
>cute
>i want adopt a black child
>wow, noble
>i want a virgin wife
>omg, wtf, why? explain why you want that, what could possibly be your reasoning? omg, you a small dicked insecure beta or what??

shit is hilarious honestly. the virgin thing gets people raged for some reason. it must be latent, subconscious guilt.

>>37447936
I don't understand why people are so obsessed with the opinions of virgins who want other virgins.

>>37447944
I dont get it either, it's an stipulation you adhere to and that's it. People also look at you weird if you dislike a certain race for merely aesthetic reasons. Like what would you look at me weird if I said I like big boobs or something.

>>37447944
>the virgin thing gets people raged for some reason.
Women realize that they can't get commitment from top-tier men because they're used goods and men realize they got stuck with sloppy seconds.

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>>37447923
It's not an issue of understanding, anon.
You pretend that you hate society and the pressure it collectively puts on men to behave/appear a certain way, and then do the same thing to others around you. So which is it? Do you hate society as a construct, or will you use it to wield the insecurities of those around you like those roasties and chads that you will never be a part of? You have no empathy and so the world fails to empathize with you.

>>37447963
I am not obsessed, I know I won't get a gf ever, I just find it endearing that someone would wait for someone special and they would tell me that I am that someone. It's just like saying "I waited for you and only you".

Your womb safes Chad's genetical legacy, thus any future kids I may have will not even be 50% mine.

>>37447939
I'm paranoid and will think about her with another guy. Not a pleasing thought, and certainly don't help me sleep at night. And before you say anything I've already gone to a therapist, didn't help.

>>37447997
Er, I meant people who have had previous relationships or casual sex, not you sorry.

>>37448007
Not that guy but I get you. Feels pretty bad.

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>>37447974
Women feel like any choice they make is a catch-22.

>>37447939
>So not only do you ignore your own standards for people, but you also expect others to ignore that hypocrisy. I suppose this kind of cognitive dissonance is to be expected from those who rely on ad-hom to argue

I'm not subjected to those standards. It's not a surprise you don't understand that.
Men and women are different, and it's not just the plumbing.

>>37448007
That's why you fuck whatever you want, date virgins and let the cucks rage like in this thread.

>>37448015
Oh got you, sorry I'm sleepy. But yeah I dont know why either. I just want to feel special and somehow that's evil.

>>37448044
>somehow that's evil.
Sluts and cucks want to bring you to their level. Stay strong.

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>>37448026
You are the change you want to see in the world, anon. Anything else is just what the other anon said: hypocrisy.

>>37448030
Both parties are raging over opinion that don't matter. My only issue is the over sexualized culture, people should think for themselves and decide what they want. Nobody should be pressured into abstinence or into having sex to be cool.

>>37448007
So in your case it is not only insecurity, but mental illness as well. I'm sorry that you have to struggle with mental illness, and I know what it feels like to be unable to escape thoughts even with therapy, but you have to understand that you are not making decisions based on logic; they are irrational feelings. You cannot expect anyone that isn't mentally ill and/or insecure to accept and adhere to those feelings and demands.
>>37448026
>I'm not subjected to those standards
Which is exactly OP's point. For whatever reason men seem to think that a completely irrational double standard is acceptable. People like you will sit there and whine that there is a positive correlation between non-marital sexual partners and likelihood of divorce, or likelihood of infidelity, while being hilariously ignorant that the same correlation applies to men as well.

>>37448068
>while being hilariously ignorant that the same correlation applies to men as well.
Men don't retain vagina juices in their body lol.

>>37448050
Oh I dont have to worry about staying strong I just can't do it even if somehow my loneliness got to me, I'm not super-popular with women or anything so that's really just a thought.

>>37448083
>pseudoscience
Sasuga brainlets.

>>37448068
I'm not expecting anyone to adhere to anything, it's perfectly reasonable for me to do what makes me happy, which means being with a virgin. I'm not hurting anyone, you're the one who has issues with what others want for themselves.

>>37448099
>being this salty that men can fuck with little consequence
stay mad, nigger

>>37448100
I find it kind of sad. They're giving you something that they kept for someone special and you kinda treat them like cumrags, somehow I don't feel that's right. Also only thinking about your happiness feels really selfish.

>>37443914
If you wish to stay timestamp your tits, otherwise leave your kind are not welcome here.

>>37448109
Hilarious that you are saying this on a board that regularly claims female promiscuity has zero downsides and the vast majority of them can settle down with a beta provider. No wonder people don't respect you.

>>37448132
>No wonder people don't respect you.
Imagine projecting this much lel.

>>37448116
Treat them like cumrags? You must be confusing me for someone else, I actually intended to wait for marriage. I really don't mind not having sex. All I want is a girl to be in love with that doesn't cause me mental problems.

>>37448100
>It's perfectly reasonable
Do you understand what these words mean? It seems like you don't. You've openly stated that your preference stems from insecurity and mental illness that are inherently irrational. Irrational beliefs are not reasonable, sorry.

>>37448147
Oh I thought you were that guy that was saying something about men fucking virgins with no consequences, sorry.

>>37448145
>no argument
Stay BTFO.

>>37448068
>Which is exactly OP's point. For whatever reason men seem to think that a completely irrational double standard is acceptable.

For fucl sake, men are not responsible for the double standard
Read this post >>37447430 to understand

Now the number of previous sexual partners for a guy matters but it's much less significant than for a girl.
I don't have the stats with me but I remeber readijg that 19 previous female partners for a guy that puts him in the same level of a divorce risk as a girl who had only 1 partner.

>>37448165
No I'd never do that.
>>37448159
It's reasonable from a societal perspective, I'm doing no harm to anyone.

>>37448159
What if he needs to have that security? Would you say the same about someone that needs to hear from their other-half that they love them? Or someone that needs to have at least 1 show of affection per day? When it comes to relationships it's mostly about taste. You wouldn't shame someone that wants to be in a relationship with people who like anime, you're the one that knows what you need to fall for someone and everything's acceptable really. As long as you care for the other you can be attracted to whatever, even hair color. It hurts that someone would reject you for superficial reasons, but you have to accept that because they're entitled to, nobody's forced to like something about people.

>>37448188
Like you had one in the first place.

>>37443914
>yet when a woman has sex with a man, even when she's in a serious committed relationship, she's a worthless slut/whore?
hmm, is his even true

>>37448248
When a woman has sex with many men, if you just had 1 bf and have sex with him I dont think anyone would really call you a slut. They would look retarded.

>>37448192
>It's much less significant than for a girl
>But I don't have a source lol
As expected.
>Men are not responsible for enforcing a double standard
That's not how it works.
>>37448214
Liking anime or demanding to be told that you are loved are not the same thing as demanding a person stays utterly chaste and never has a truly intimate relationship with anyone until they meet you.

>>37448248
She's only a slut if she goes on to another guy.

>>37448264
It's not like being "utterly chaste" is any harder than not being fat.

>>37448264
It is your prerogative anon, if you need them to have waited for you, then that's your call. Really you're not demanding anything, you're just saying "this is what I like, this is what makes me feel that way" and there's nothing you can do about it. If you're fine with having sex with people who had many partners then good for you, but if you're not it's nothing to feel bad about, after all you're the only one that can set the bar.

>>37448295
This, it's not hard to keep a penis away from your mouth, anus or vagina.

>>37448295
>It's not like never being intimate with another person because Anon won't like you anymore if you are is any harder than not stuffing your face.
Are you autistic? I don't mean that as an insult, but I just cannot understand how anyone could equate denying yourself a basic need with resisting overindulgence and gluttony.
>>37448304
You're right, but only if this person does not preach and complain about the lack of virgin women. A good parallel to this would be having a preference for the physical features of Asian women, and having yellow fever.

>>37448264
Do you really think that wanting a virgin bf/gf is really worse than wanting a person with "x taste" or disliking someone for having "y personality trait"? You're gonna feel repulsed for things that are out of the other person's control, physical or mental, and nobody will blame you for it, I don't see why wanting someone chaste is somehow a really big deal.

>>37448384
>basic need
No, I'm not even going to argue this.

>>37448384
You can complain about the lack of virgin women too, I don't see why you wouldn't. It's just you telling someone else that you're having a hard time finding someone to love, you're feeling lonely and have to vent. I don't think I'm entitled to having a gf, but I still feel sad about not having one and I like talking about it with people who feel the same way because it's somehow a reminder that I'm not alone in this.

>>37443914
You should stay a virgin forever your genes are weak.

>>37448389
I think it's fine to have that preference if it's based on rational beliefs. The vast majority of people with that preference only have it because of insecurity.
>>37448413
Sex is a component in emotional connection which is a basic human need. Sexual release can be accomplished by masturbation, but is also a basic human need (for most people). You arguing otherwise with no research to support your claims is pathetically insufficient to combat the decades of psychological research and professionals who established this.

>>37448488
An insecurity it's a rational belief. He needs something else to feel secure in a relationship and that cushion is chastity, makes sense he would look for someone like that to compensate his lack of security.

>>37448525
>An insecurity is a rational belief
No it isn't. It relies on inherently irrational thought distortions.

>>37448488
I live just fine without sex, but that aside what does your argument amount to? You want me to persue something that makes me unhappy to appeal to your sense of logic? Guess what, people aren't "logical" in the way you're describing, comparatively what I want isn't illogical because it would be illogical to not persue what makes me happier and more productive.
All you're saying is that you don't like the idea, it doesn't change anything for me.

There is literally nothing wrong with preferring virgins over sluts. Stay toasty, roasties.

>>37448586
Let's say you fear cheating that's really not a thought distortion since it can happen.

Who's more likely to cheat on you someone who literally waited years and preserved their virginity just for you or someone who has had many partners along the way?

>>37448607
>B-but if i dont spread my legs, Chad will never acknowledge me!

I want a gf who is a prude.

Just where can I get such a gf?

>>37448650
>Then have a good one with chad, steve stays here playing VNs and hating on mankind, not gonna pay for chad jr.

>>37448664
Idk anon, if you ever find out tell me. Wouldn't mind someone to cuddle and be happy with.

>>37448068
>while being hilariously ignorant that the same correlation applies to men as well
There is literally NO research on that.
Seriously, you are not gonna find one research correlating the number of previous partners a guy have with a divorce risk.
If you do you should post it, i'm genuinely curious.

>>37448591
I don't want you to pursue anything. I want you to take a step back and think about the reasons you have those insecurities, and especially whether or not those reasons are rational. If they aren't rational, why should you have them?
>>37448616
A constant fear that someone will cheat is a thought disruptive, and an especially damaging one at that. Please do not interpret this as me saying you should be comfortable with being cucked, because you shouldn't be.

>>37448694
>A constant fear that someone will cheat is a thought disruptive
The modern American woman is a duplicitous twat.

>>37443928
I agree with White Knight Supreme here.

>>37448694
Be it preference or a way to circumvent your shortcomings, it's still the same goal: you want a happy relationship. If for some reason you cannot get it out of your mind and the only way to feel secure about it it's to have someone that has waited for you, then that's acceptable. It's not irrational to want a partner that has traits that compensate/synergize w/ yours to develop into a nice relationship.

>>37448671
>Yeah, whatev.. you bitter virgin.

>>37443914
Economics and biology. Women get pregnant, men do not. Women are the gatekeepers of sex, men are not. Women are born rich and become poorer the more they hand out and grow old. Men are born poor and have to accumulate wealth over time.

>>37448694
As I've stated therapy did not help. And you have a twisted idea of rationality. What's rational depends entirely on the scope you're in. From my current scope I'm unable to fix my problem so it's most rational to persue what will make me happy.

Think about it this way, from my perspective it's rational to steal any time I can get away with it if I have no dependence on the individual. But from a societal scope it's irrational because it does more bad than good. If people were purely logical in the way you describe society would be hell. That's why we are all predisposed to be altruistic for the good of the species. It's stupid to concern yourself with something out of your scope.

>>37445224

Yeah, this is the part that bothers me too. I don't really care if you've got a few (like two or three) relationships and one-night-stands under your belt, that's fine and cool if you can tolerate my virgin ass for long enough so I can actually learn to fuck you properly. I can live with that. Kids, though are a dealbreaker. As are STDs.

It's just that women tend to make the same mistake one-after-the-other. You go for the proverbial Chad, chances are he'll leave once he's done. Sure, he's the cream of the crop but if you're in your twenties and you're a well adjusted modern woman and you can't keep Chad, why do you keep trying? If I somehow burned my fingers by getting into an abusive relationship with a crazy girl, you can be hella sure I'll be looking for the "warning signs" the next time I start thinking on getting into another relationship with a different woman. Makes sense, right? Live and learn, next time I'll do better, positive outlook, all that good shit. But a lot, I'm not saying all, but a lot of women keep making the same mistake over and over. So much so that I know quite a few, personally, and I'm a moderately sheltered cyborg. Women's magazines and websites are full of these tales, too.

Look, moderation is the key to happines. Hedonism is ultimately very self-defeating and causes strife for a lot of people.

>>37444876
Manwhoring takes effort. The effort involved differs by a huge margin. So one is seen as someone having success while the other one is effectively someone giving out the milk without getting anyone to buy the cow. Women can have sex, lots of sex and not be seen as sluts. What decides is not the ammount of sex but the ammount of guys they sleep with and especially when none of them stick around and ever give commitment. Because while women control sex, men in theory control commitment how much it is worth however depends on how successfull the guy in question is.

>If we're virgins, we're pure, clean, and desirable,
this is objectively true, and if you don't want to be a slut you should stay this way
>but we're also prudes, we're frigid, and we also have men begging to fuck us
why are you treating robots as if we were the same group as mansluts? no robot does or calls you any of these things, are you mistaking failed normies for robots?

>>37448877
I personally find endearing the idea of having a virgin gf so yeah no idea where that comes from. I mean I can see chadster mcthundercock being butthurt that she didn't want to give him any but robots are more about love than they're about sex.

>>37448793
>I'm unable to fix my problem
Decades of research into psychiatry and psychology disagrees with you. The reality is that you either have not had a competent therapist, you are unwilling to put effort into fixing the problem, or both.
>>37448720
The average white American hikkiNEET is a misanthropic shitstain. That means I should start wearing a bulletproof vest to my lectures.
>>37448736
That kind of insecurity is damaging to yourself and to the other parties involved.

>>37443914
I get all the pussy I could ever want

>>37448927
>The average white American hikkiNEET is a misanthropic shitstain.
>implying I'm not employed and educated
>implying I'm not glorious Persian masterrace
Stay asshurt LOL

>>37443914
sleep only with me ofcourse

>>37448962
Sad that you think this was directed at you and not obvious satire of your shitty generalizations.

>>37448927
Again, it is damaging if I were forcing myself to go against what feels right to me. The cool thing about relationships with people is that they're optional, you're not having arranged marriages like ye olden time, you can pick and choose. So if you really find it disgusting/impossible to get with a chick that has had previous encounters of the sex kind then it's cool, you don't have to. Nobody's trying to say that having insecurities it's great and awesome, but if you have it and having someone that's never have sex makes you feel secure, then you're golden you literally have deleted your insecurity leaving no room for doubts.

>>37448994
American whores are shit, stay mad dumbass.

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I have a question for femanons assuming there are any real ones in this thread. How acceptable would you find it to get with another virgin, lose it together, and stay commited for the rest of your life? As in, both people will only ever be with one other person forever. And would this still be okay if they were against marriage and 100% opposed to children? I feel like even on this site it's very unlikely that any girl would feel like this, to be fully commited to another person and share their lives together without also wanting to go through all the indoctrinated shit of starting a family etc.

>>37449004
>you have deleted your insecurity
No, you have temporarily appeased it in the same way a heroin addict appeases his addiction. I don't think it's far-fetched to assume that if the virgin woman in question ever has male friends that she desires to hang out with, the insecure man is going to start having thought disruptions and become consumed with jealousy.

>>37443914

This is bait but whatever.

A woman is only a worthless slut/whore if she has gross casual sex. Getting men (or women, if you were born a mutant queer) off of craigslist, tender, local bars, parties, or really most anywhere else for meetup sex is gross and makes her slob.

If she's fucking in a relationship then she's doing it right.

It's not about the sex, it's the way in which roasties go about getting it. Might as well share needles with those same guys.

And the only people who consider women frigid and prude are the dudes who want to pump and dump you. The dudes who will ghost you.

Ignore those guys, and don't give it up for sex where you won't even likely enjoy it.

Also stop thinking all men are the same you dumb bitch. Chads and robots are obviously not the same in what they want.

>>37449116
Honestly, fuck it, if you're scared of cheating, you're doing it right. I trusted women until they backstabbed me twice in a row, no I really dont give a fuck. Guys be as paranoid as you want, in the end it will only do you good.

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>>37443914
>What exactly do men think women should do?

Shut the fuck up and leave me alone

>>37449098
(femanon) That feels really comfy knowing another anon and i both lost it together and liked each other enough to stay with each other and grow together.

>>37443914
>I used to think sex is a really intimate thing that I'd wait till I'm in a serious, long term relationship for, but now I feel like I should just preserve my virginity forever.

You were right the first time. Wait until you find a long-term relationship.

> Women can't seem to win.

You'll win if you wait until you find a long-term relationship.

That's how my wife and I won. Neither of us had ever been with anyone else before we met. We waited for each other. Sure, society told us that we were losers for being virgins, but we didn't give a shit about that. We have the kind of stable, happy, exclusive, long-term relationship that a lot of people want, but they don't get the chance to have because they're brainwashed by society into being promiscuous. We have something a lot of other people envy -- so we won -- despite the fact that people used to tell us that we were losers.

> Should women just all die virgins?

Of course not. Find a good guy who's a virgin and marry him; then have lots and lots of sex.

> we're also prudes, we're frigid, and we also have men begging to fuck us,

That whole "prude/frigid" thing is just their way of trying to insult you because you chose not to have sex with them. It's just sour grapes. Notice that they'll also call you a "slut" if you have sex with anyone other than them. Those words are simply designed to insult you. You can safely ignore all of that.

And if a guy is begging to fuck you, he's not worth it. A real man will commit to a lifetime relationship, and he will understand if you want a lifetime commitment before having sex. If a guy won't do that, then he's a boy, not a man.

> What exactly do men think women should do?

Well, as you pointed out, different men have contradictory ideas about what women should do.

So, instead, do the right thing. Treat sex as a very special, intimate thing -- share it only with your future husband, who also believes the same thing -- and you'll both be happy.

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>>37443914
I don't care about your relationship with other people. I only care about you in relation to me. If you have sex with me, awesome. If you have sex with someone else, you're unavailable. If you won't have sex with me for any other reason, that's shitty and annoying.

I don't care what you do if you're not having sex with me.

Nah there's a difference between some chick hopping dick to dick each weekend for 8 years and then settle with the first well off cuck they see that most of us talk about and someone who has had intimate sex with their boyfriend every now and then.

Don't avoid having sexual relations if you actually do love someone, op. Just don't love a different dude every weekend.

>>37445423
Excellent post, anon. More wymym need to understand this.

>>37447944
>>i want a virgin wife
>>omg, wtf, why? explain why you want that, what could possibly be your reasoning?

When women say that, they're just bitter because you've spoken the uncomfortable truth that virgin women are more highly-sought-after. They're angry because by having sex they have lowered their own market value, and they don't think that's fair. But they lash out in anger at YOU and ridicule YOU for wanting a woman who's more desirable than they are. You can safely laugh it off as irrational nonsense.

When men say that, they're simply engaging in a dick-measuring contest. They think that because they have fucked more girls than you, they're superior to you. By putting you down, it makes them feel better about themselves.

> it must be latent, subconscious guilt.

For women, I think guilt can be a part of it. But for men, I think it's just an expression of male ego.

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I've been with the guy I lost my virginity to for the last 10 years and I still get called a whore on here kek

The males here aren't exactly what you'd describe as being of 'quality' OP, just ignore them. Hell the only reason I lurk is to get the occasional chuckle out of the sheer, unbridled autism.

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>>37443914
Dirty whore, we're virgins not by choice unlike you.

>>37449098
> I feel like even on this site it's very unlikely that any girl would feel like this, to be fully commited to another person and share their lives together without also wanting to go through all the indoctrinated shit of starting a family etc.

Not a femanon, but I can shed some light.

I did find a woman who was willing to do this with me. We were both virgins when we met. We chose not to have children.

So they do exist.

well me personally i think we should commit to one person and marry them then make love to them often and passionatly. i know most humans don't like this idea and understand that but this is what is best for me and what i want. don't preserve your virginity forever save it for someone you love and want to marry.the whole reason it is precious is because you want it to be special for someone else. that being said don't grow averse to sex, sex is very good for the person your husband (or in a man's case wife). essentially don't hate sex control sex. essentially sex ideally is a passionate and frequent occurrence between husband and wife to grow more intimate with one another and strengthen their relationship. like any other petite it needs to be used towards a constructive goal (hunger=diet thirst=prevent dehydration boredom=productivity existential dread=creativity loneliness= compassion sex=love/family)

>>37449098
I've been with my partner 10+ years now, the same man I lost mt virginity to when I was 15, although he'd already been with one other girl at 13.

We're both antinatalist, vegan environmentalists who've agreed that the best way to enjoy our lives together would be in the absence of a child. All children do it suck your money up, money that could be better spent on caring for the animals that we rescue and care for (3 pigs, 2 goats, a donkey, 16 chickens, 5 ducks, 1 cat and 2 rescue dairy cows).

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>>37451128
>We're both antinatalist, vegan environmentalists
>absence of a child

Who would have fucking guessed?

>>37443914
just wait till marriage

>>37443914
I haven't begged to any girl for sex, yet I crave because of my instincts.
If you asked me the better choice is to wait until marriage. Folling around may satiate your lust but it may give you emotional baggage for when you find someone fit for a long term relationship.
Its better for society, and better for everyone.
But what do I know, I am just a lonely virgin that craves to be with a female.

>>37443914
You have to decide what are you going to be
A slut or a prude.
You have to decide whether you are going to be relationship material or a whore. There is no middle ground anymore.
You get to make this decision once and it becomes who you are for the rest of your life.
Sorry things got to this point, but that's the world we live in now.

>>37451128
Antinatalism is redpilled but caring about animals and the planet is cucked, I don't understand how you can hold both viewpoints tbqh.

>>37451128
>being an antinatalist
>being a vegan
pick one you dumb piece of meat.

>>37443914
Is that you in the pic ?
That isy favourite female face type btw, very feminine.

>>37451355
You can't control life. Getting married to your first long term partner at an early stage of the relationship isn't a good way to avoid baggage. Having sex without getting married isn't that likely to end badly.

>>37451364
This isn't true. I have plenty of friends who have slutted around and still ended up married. Even if I'm in some weird bubble, it's still not that rare and definitely not impossible.

>>37451619
Umm, what? What do you think a vegan is? What do you think an antinatalist is?

>>37451762
I did not tell you to marry early in the relationship, date the person for at least 3 years before making such a choice.

>>37451836
3 years is early in the relationship if that relationship is supposed to last 60 years.

Sexuality isn't about winning or losing. It is about embracing intimacy with someone you care about. One night stands show you only care about yourself and the temporary pleasure that it brings (this goes for both sexes)
The myth that guys brag about the amount of holes they have dug their shovel in is extremely elaborated. My good friends do not talk about sex with each other. We don't compare our count. infact its fairly meaningless when you get past 18.
What sticks with people is long term relationships and the strength of character and dedication they show.
A long and healthy marriage is the ultimate status symbol as you get older and try to push forward in society.

>>37443914
>Men: why do you constantly beg women to have sex with you, love you, cater to all of your fantasies etc, yet when a woman has sex with a man, even when she's in a serious committed relationship, she's a worthless slut/whore?
Do not form your idea of men in general on the basis of the sick, bittered individuals here. Most of them call ALL women whores and sluts as a REVENGE against women for not giving them any, or much enough of pussy. They'd call a nun or a 3 yo child a filthy whore too. Thus, their opinion is worthless and based on PURE DELUSION.

If you reply to this, OP, do not expect any reply back. I know that I will get a lot of idiotic crap from others for this and I do not have time to engage myself into a conversation like that right now so I won't come back.

>>37451285
I'm sorry that you hate animals.

>>37451853
Fair enough.
Still would you endure chastity for decades before marrying? Your willpower is impressive, 3 years is enough. Although an optimal ammount of years would be 5 in my opinion. If you don't know the person after that time something is wrong.

>>37451619
Anon I don't think you understand veganism or antinatalism....

>>37451572
I'm not a selfish piece of shit and wish to give back more to this world than I take. It's pretty simple. I also don't believe in paying other people to torture and mutilate animals for me when consuming their flesh and secretions only negatively affects your health overall.

>>37451978
No. But I also wouldn't endure chastity for months while dating. I just don't consider the whole waiting thing to be based on reason on any level. You gain nothing.

>>37443914
It's not a logical stance and yeah it's really annoying people keep meming it. People are mad nobody will have sex with them, but don't want anyone to have sex.

>>37451982
"Giving to the world" is a spook my friend. You will be dead in 60 years and it won't matter anymore. Withholding enjoyment from yourself for your short lifetime is just wasted effort. I like you for being antinatalist but from your post it seems you're not doing it for the right reasons.

>>37443914
I honestly would rather not take someone's virginity, to much crying and blood

>>37452092
I do it because I couldn't sleep easy at night being the sort of person you are. Honestly Anon you sound really young and/or naive and immature. Just because I'll one day no longer be here is not a valid reason to force agony and misery on the beings around me. I think you don't even understand what real suffering is with that kind of attitude. You're too sheltered.

>>37443914
>when a woman has sex with a man, even when she's in a serious committed relationship, she's a worthless slut/whore?
Said no one ever
Fuck off with muh persecution and generalizations

>>37452097
Those are memes, there are most likely not going to be either if you do it right.

>>37451762
>This isn't true. I have plenty of friends who have slutted around and still ended up married. Even if I'm in some weird bubble, it's still not that rare and definitely not impossible.

There are still some blue pill beta simps out there, but they are a dying breed.

>>37444204
Did you forget where you're posting?

>>37443914
This might be the cutest face I have ever seen.

>>37452303
Bro I want an experienced beautifull women and not some whiny lil bitch who's gonna bleed all over my dick.

>What exactly do men tgink women should do.

Jump off a bridge at your earliest convenience and watch humanity go into a golden age from beyond the grave

>>37452273
lmao at you calling me naive whilst you cry about
>bawww the widdle animals ;_;
Regardless of your age, you're literally a child if you actually care about this, and you probably believe in souls and other nonsense like that. You're too emotional and "empathetic" to think logically about anything, as evidenced by you trying to guilt trip and name call me as an argument without putting anything of actual substance in your post.
>lol ur so dumb you wouldn't understand my deep philosophy
If you care so much why not end your life, to the benefit the planet's sustainability? Maybe because it's just a hollow sentiment and you have no real conviction?

>>37452409
I think it's safe to say that no one really cares about what you think.
And i'm not just talking about r9k or 4chan.

>>37452497
Why would I end my life when I'm exactly the kind of person this world needs?

There's no logic in inflicting needless suffering on sentient beings just FYI. That isn't you being smart, that's just autism.

>>37451948
no retard it is the antinatalist. anti-natalists don't have kids that is there whole thing

>mum confiscated my cum rag

What should I cum in instead, ladies?

>>37452794
I'm aware of it, hence why I'm an antinatalist. idk what your problem is precisely.

>>37444108
>unironically using that image in literally 2017

oh wow

>>37450590

>wymym
you're a meme

>>37444283
I'll escort you Anon ;)))))) Where do you live?

>>37443936
>What you're doing is browsing r9k and assuming all of us need to beg for sex.
neo r9k everyone
have you lost your way chad
GTFO /r9k