>futa >tons of people faps to them >posted regularly,

>>37291956
>same people that like traps and futa become islamic as soon as trans is brought up
How do you know this?

>>37291956
Why are you confused? The first two are just fantasies while the third is trying to force your fantasy into reality.

Wanting to be the little girl is fine. Dress like one in your own home, whatever. But you don't get to strut around in the real world and expect everyone to treat you like the little girl.

>>37292035
>promoting mental illness
Stop the problem in privacy and you stop it from going public.

>>37291956
>This is my fetish, so it's okay.
>This is my fetish, so it's okay.
>This isn't my fetish, I hate it!
Here's your explanation.

>>37291956

All degenerate, and if you like even one of them you should kys

because /pol/ is fucking retarded and doesn't understand anything about sexual dynamics

there's a case to be made that defecting from being male makes it easier for others to defect, which could cause a spiral, but they're not interested in making it, they're interested in jerking off

there's also the fact that the best /pol/ posters stay on their own board, and we get the retards and dregs who can't make it there. they are not sending their best people

>>37292279
>a fucking silver
leave this match faggot

>>37291956
4chan is the only place where i see tons of trans hating. My guess is that people on here arent fans of the gender spectrum stuff and lump it with all trans people. Ive seen posters being just plain ignorant saying that they need therapy, not realizing that hormone therapy is the only way to manage gender dysphoria

>>37292497
You don't see hate for it in the real world because it's far more rare. But most people I've encountered really don't like it. They don't agree with it and they do think the people going trans are seriously fucked up.
But there's nothing much you can do about it.

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After years of fapping to tg and related shit I realized that it's the testosterone that pushes me into it, not the other way. Autists get confused on what they want, and once they have it they might not be happy.

What the fuck would happen if you cut your penis and realize it's fucking bad? You can become a trap and be loved by everyone end of story

>>37292691
>After years of fapping to tg and related shit I realized that it's the testosterone that pushes me into it
yeah that's the funny part
it is completely possible to be a 100% /pol/-approved asexual nofap bug person... but it requires you to first be forcibly feminized

gotta wonder if the reason they whine about these threads isn't because they hate competition

If scientific data was released that irrefutable, overwhelmingly and completely demonstrated that being trans is innate and that people are physically born with gender dysphoria and that transition is the cure, would you still hate them?

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>>37291956
Tumblr and the Jews are pushing it. Otherwise there would be literally nothing wrong with keeping a harem of eunuchs.

>tfw no cute tgf to cuddle and love
why go on desu

>>37292117
Pretty much this.
I get off on the idea of dominating a weaker more feminine guy (traps), but I'm not attracted to the idea of a dude who thinks he's actually a girl.

>>37294014
>but I'm not attracted to the idea of a dude who thinks he's actually a girl.

Are there trannies that actually think this? Of course I'm not an actual female, I'm mtf

>>37294364
Isn't the point that they feel like a girl on the inside? Why else would trans people transition?

>>37291956
because those are fetishes for a 20 minutes wank not fucking up your body chemistry so you can look like twisted sister

Because trans "activists" have become a ridiculous stereotype and make the rest of you look bad.

If you just start wanting to be called "she" instead of some invented pronoun, try to pass for female, and otherwise make your identity a girl and not a snowflake, I think most people will be pretty accepting. And people online are always bigger douchebags than they would ever be to your face; /pol/ is a small minority.

You can't go through life worrying about what everyone else thinks of you; do what makes you happy.

>>37294387
Of course I feel like I'm a girl inside but that's just completely dumb and irrational emotions talking. Of course my intelligent part of my brain knows completely that I'm biologically male, and even if I go with the sex and gender are separate way of thinking and say "I'm a male but also a woman" that would still make me completely distinct and different from an actual female.

>Why else would trans people transition?
The stress and discomfort I feel from not having a feminine body and not being seen by others as a girl is so bad that I simply cannot live a functional life without transition. It's retarded but so is my brain, and taking hormones, wearing girl's clothes, and just acting the way my instincts tells me to act does wonders for making that discomfort and pain go away. Again I'm completely aware that I'm not actually a female

>>37294621
OK, so I guess what I should have said initially is that I'm not attracted to the mentally unstable.

>>37294687
What does you being attracted to me or not have to do with anything? Why can't I just exist the way I am and it not be a big deal

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>>37294687
>you can't do things that allow you to lead a functional life because I'm not sexually attracted to it

>>37294701
My first response was to somebody saying that people are OK with traps and futa because they're attracted to it, but not OK with trans people because they aren't attracted to it.

I validated that person's claim, and you corrected me on what I said about trans people. So know I'm changing my initial statement about trans people. I'm not saying I am or am not attracted to you personally, but that this is my reasoning for not being attracted to trans people as a whole

>>37294767
>trans ""people""
>functional
lol

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>>37291956
see >>37294644

also when people dont understand something, they latch onto a group with a particular mindset.
They really have no opinion of their own or reasonings for having that opinion, they just choose to blindly follow a group. The two major groups of this argument being: "YAY EVERYONE IS SPECIAL! HURRDURR" and "EVERYONE WHOS COMPLICATED SCARES AND ANGERS ME AND MAKES ME FEEL GAY".

So most people fall into 1 of the 2 and then bitch endlessly their parroted memes.

>>37292377
yeah /pol/ is mostly the 2nd group but even more retard angry

>>37292645
Nobody in real life has ever met a transsexual.
They are just spouting FAUX NEWs tier memes of exploding vans filled with trannies.

>>37292996
If you could solve this, which seems the clear obvious answer as you have the fake crossdressing group and the real trans in agony, it would be the best thing to happen.

People are mostly angry because they see all the faggots which arent even anything a part of us and if we could get those faggots labeled correctly, then we could all hate them together for the wannabe degenerate faggotry that they are.


>>37293791
Literally noone on reddit or tumblr or on a college campus is transsexual. They are all attention whores with pink hair and noses rings and obesity.

>>37294014
Thats extra fucking gay from both the heterosexual standpoint and the transgirl is actual a real girl with a brain disorder and shes right and youd still fuck the guy viewpoint.

Pretty much as faggot as possible.

>>37294621
Of course I'm not a real girl*
Then kill yourself fetishist.
Youre not a real girl then just a deformed freak.
You dont transition if youre not the other sex you stupid fuck.
Thats the entire fucking basis for everything and if you disagree with it then ITS NOT FUCKING TRUE. HELLO?
see>>37294687

>>37294767
Ok u feel good being a retarded faggot doesnt mean you should transition. Just be the gross degenerate faggot transvestite you are and be happy about it.

>>37295334
>have decent job
>pay rent, bills, taxes
>have friends who like me
>no criminal record, no debts
>don't get any government benefits
>keep to myself and the only abnormal thing about me is that I'm trans which doesn't impair me in my day to day life

I guess I'm not functional because you think I'm icky?

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>>37295395
>Literally noone on reddit or tumblr or on a college campus is transsexual. They are all attention whores with pink hair and noses rings and obesity.
Ayy horseshoe theory cuck trying No true scotsman.

>Nobody in real life has ever met a transsexual.
They are just spouting FAUX NEWs tier memes of exploding vans filled with trannies.
One of my immediate family members is trans you fucking reddit crossposter goof.

>>37295395
>Then kill yourself fetishist.
The way I described myself perfectly fits into >>37294644. It's not a fucking fetish to me, I've felt this way my entire life and it has caused me a lifetime of agony and pain, of course I was born with it. The reason I say I'm not a real girl is because despite every inch of my soul screaming to me that I am one, the rational part of my brain simply knows that isn't true. I was born with xy chromosomes, I was born with a penis and male sex organs, I wasn't born with xx chromosomes or female organs. To say otherwise is to deny reality. If being a transsexual is being born with a congenital developmental disorder that causes me to see myself as a woman, then I'm still not the same as a real female, it just makes me a male to female transsexual.

>>37295399
>I guess I'm not functional because you think I'm icky?
Yes

>>37295395
It's not gay if it's a feminine penis

>>37291956

All of those are fetishes.

futas are non existent

Both traps and trannies are mentally ill degenerates that should get put in a gas chamber.

>>37291956
Futa is hot because it transcends what 3D is capable of.

I think traps are gross, but at least they're guys who know they're still guys, while trying to make the best of it.

Wanting to be a girl is fine. It's when you start thinking that you are "supposed to be" a girl that you're exhibiting a form of delusion.

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>>37292035
My sweet summer child, you don't know how wrong you are.

Asexual mtf trans here. Ask me anything.

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>>37295504
>Ayy horseshoe theory cuck trying No true scotsman
You fakers always try and pull this card.
There are clear rules and you just ignore them as if they dont matter.
Here's two of them

>You are born this way congenitally.
Which you deny because you say "im not a woman, Im just a man playing dress up"

>You need gender dysphoria
Which you dont have because you said youre not a woman.
You just have a preference for crossdressing albeit a strong one.
Similar to how I have a strong preference to wear clothes in public.

>One of my immediate family members is trans you fucking reddit crossposter goof.
transgender*
The chances that you and another family member are both transexual is FUCKING ASTRONOMICAL.
Shut the fuck up you poser transgender faggot.

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>>37295644
Want to roleplay with me as me being a little 4 inch guy you found naked in your underwear drawer. What do you do to me?

>>37295644
Do you enjoy cuddling?

>>37295658
I'm >>37295510

I'm not the person who posted >>37295504

I don't have a trans family member.

>You need gender dysphoria
>Which you dont have because you said youre not a woman.
You've legitimately triggered me so I have to congratulate you on that.

What do you even think gender dysphoria is?

>>37295510
Look you can only be one or the other.
You are either a transexual woman in denial or you're a boy.

There's no middle ground.
That's pc gender umbrella bullshit.

There are only 2. Male and female.

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>there are people who get this mad about other people wearing skirts

>>37295732
>You are either a transsexual woman in denial or you're a boy.

I have already stated in this thread that I'm a transsexual woman, I'm male to female trans

>There's no middle ground.
>That's pc gender umbrella bullshit.
>There are only 2. Male and female.

I completely agree with this and I'm not sure where I indicated otherwise.

Of fucking course I see myself as a girl, I always have. So many times in early childhood I had to have my parents explain to me that I was a boy and not a girl. So many nights as a kid I was crying my eyes out praying to God to understand why I was made this way, why I had this pain, why couldn't I have been born a girl so people could see me the way I saw myself. My earliest fucking memories of life on this planet are of pain and confusion at my sex, specifically the way other people see me not matching the way I see myself.

No matter how I fucking feel it doesn't change the fact that I am physically, factually, 100% biologically male. My sex is literally tattooed on every fucking cell in my body. My feelings, despite how overwhelmingly clear they are, do not change reality. For you to say I don't have gender dysphoria because I'm fucking self-aware is unbelievably insulting and frustrating.

>You just have a preference for crossdressing albeit a strong one.
I don't give a fucking shit about girl's clothes, makeup or anything like that. I like girl's clothes better than guys I guess, but when I'm by myself I just wear pajama pants and a t-shirt anyway. The entire fucking point of transitioning is to make dysphoria bearable, the issue is 100% my physical body and the way I'm seen by other people, it has nothing to do with preference for girly things over masculine things.

>>37295644
how do you feel about having completely neutered your sex drive with estrogens?

>>37295900
No you literally said: "I want to be a special snowflake but I'm not a woman."

Which makes you a boy.

Which again brings us back to either youre in denial because youve convinced yourself that stupid shit like what genitals you have etc mean more than YOUR ACTUAL UNDENIABLE BRAIN CHEMISTRY BECAUSE YOU WERE BORN A WOMAN AND FOR WHATEVER REASON THAT SCIENCE HASNT FIGURED OUT YET LEAD YOU TO ALWAYS BE THIS WAY FOREVER BECAUSE THIS THE MOTHER FUCKING ARRANGEMENT OF THE CELLS THAT EXISTS AS YOUR BRAIN
or not and youre a boy.

The only other possible explanation is that we are all ludicrously insane and all of the doctors are wrong and science will figure it out and flip over all their definitions and research so far and be like AHA you are so different in your diagnostic criteria because you have similar areas but different amounts of brain damage, so you act differently or something like that.

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>>37291956
>>wanting to be a girl for reasons that aren't sexual
>>mentally ill degenerates, ruining society that deserve to be ostracized, beaten, raped, murdered
But that's wrong you're describing trannies, traps are cute boys that like to cross dress and don't want to be real girls, they still enjoy using their dicks, real trannies want to cut off their dicks

>>37296087
Even if I have perfect female brain chemistry and that's what causes my gender dysphoria I still have XY chromosomes in my fucking DNA. I fucking AGREE with you that my being trans is because of my brain chemistry, but guess what, a normal, healthy developed woman has female brain chemistry AND a vagina AND xx chromosomes, while even if I have a perfect female brain I still was born male with a penis and male chromosomes. That's precisely what makes me trans you fucking retard.

Are you actually trying to convince me that the only requirement for being a woman is simply saying you are one?

I NEVER said I wasn't a woman either. From the very beginning I said I was a male to female transsexual, which is a trans woman. I'm still biologically male.

>>37295644

there's nothing to ask you. you're a lying man.

>>37291956
>Wanting to be a different sex for non-sexual reasons

>>37295395
What's the difference between transsexual and transgender?
I've always thought transsexual was the made up one and transgender was just gender dysphoria?

>>37296277
You've got it backwards

Transgender refers to anyone who falls outside of 'normal' gender of man / woman

A transsexual is a person who specifically is born male or female but feels there is a disconnect between there mind and body, where there mind more closely matches the opposite sex, and they transition (live as the opposite sex) to make their mind and body match more closely.

Transgender includes things other than male/man and female/woman
Transsexual is strictly within the normal gender binary of male/man and female/woman

>>37295644
What other mental illnesses do you have? DSM V only please, no made up bullshit.

>>37296223
Not the guy you're replying to but you sound incredibly mentally ill.

Anyone that still blinds themselves to the fact that you can't argue with biology, and prefers to delude themselves that they're actually somehow a woman, when in fact they are a bottom that sort of resembles a girl but has hands that are too big, arms that are too long, a manly frame and an Adams apple.

I hope you seek help, and not the type of help that reinforces your obvious gender complex.

>>37296223
Thats a long way of saying:
>I'm still biologically male.
So youre male not transsexual.
This is the entire basis of my argument.

I would argue that I'm female and Ive always been female and none of those things you listed matter to me because I am female. I dont know why this is but Im sure scientists will one day figure it out. But I am female.
Youre playing dress up and want a special name for it.

I would rather die than be a man. Enjoy ur chromosomes.

>>37297154
>acknowledge that I'm male repeatedly, just one with gender dysphoria that transitioned in order to alleviate it

>to one anon this means I'm a regular guy with a crossdressing fetish and not actually trans and don't actually have gender dysphoria
>to another anon this somehow means being delusional and thinking I'm a real female

There's no winning with you people

>>37296716
asexual for one

>>37297180
Oh I fucking get it now. You're one of 'those'

>I'm still biologically male.
>So youre male not transsexual.

A male to female transsexual is a BIOLOGICAL MALE that lives as a female.
A female to male transsexual is the opposite.

Thank you for finally admitting that you're a moron

>>37297242
enjoy ur chomosomes transvestite

>>37291956
>I want to dress up in cute girls clothes
>I want to mutilate my penis and have it turned inside out so it resembles a vagina
See the difference?

>>37297315
Only an incredibly small minority of transsexuals ever get that surgery.

>>37297210
>transitioned

you keep spinning gold I swear to god.

There's no fucking difference. You're exactly the same as you were before

>>37297340
>>37297315
Mostly hons and well off people.

Tons of people want a real vagina from stem cells or something not a fucking axe wound dick resculpture.

>>37297374
>You're exactly the same as you were before
Personality wise? Interests? etc. Of course.

Actual day to day life? Completely different. Living as a guy and living as a girl are very different. I hate to break it to you but the way the rest of the world treats you impacts everything in your life. I don't know how you've lived this long without figuring that out.

>>37292035
/thread

origami oregano

>>37297408
>doesn't mention his physical body
>doesn't mention weird looks from people because what they see is unnatural
>it is unnatural

What about how people treat you makes you want to be the opposite sex? The only thing I can imagine is rape, as it'd make you used to the idea of having foreign objects in your body.

>>37297533
>doesn't mention weird looks from people because what they see is unnatural
Why did you say I'm exactly the same if you also thought this was true? At least be consistent

Obviously my physical body changed too dummy

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>WHY

futa is sexy and totally straight
traps are sexy and making love with them is totally straight
if you become a girl society will treat you better
islam destroys jews and feminists, appreciates flat chests, is halal

there, I answered your gay-ass questions OP. now give me the prime teen pussy and I'll let you walk away alive.

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>>37291956
i used to want to transition when I was younger
my parents talked me out of it by saying I was too young
i was fucking pissed at the time but it was for the better
eventually I realized that I don't hate being a guy, what I hate is being ugly
fuck i hate being ugly
but no amount of surgery or pills can change that
so if i transitioned i would still have been ugly
i kinda like being a guy, but i'm always going to be ugly no matter what i do
i still would love to be a cute girl though, if such a thing ever becomes possible in my lifetime
anyway the point is life is the worst

>>37297889
You're obviously not trans though if you only want to transition because you hate being a guy, which has nothing to do with gender dysphoria

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>>37298074
>you hate being a guy, which has nothing to do with gender dysphoria
um

>>37298179
People who are trans feel gender dysphoria before they even understand gender roles or anything as a little kid. You don't transition because 'the grass is greener on the other side', it has nothing to do with the benefits of being the opposite sex. It's a neurological birth defect, not a preference or lifestyle choice.

>>37298223
point taken but those two things are not mutually exclusive

>>37291956
>futa
>pixel porn
>people fantasize to them

>traps
>mentally ill faggots
>people realize they're failed human beans
>nobody wants a ticking timebomb in their bed

Eyy boss, where did them chromosomes go?

>>37298248
Right, often trans people hate being the sex they were born as specifically because of dysphoria. My point is that it never works the other way around.

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>>37298223
>being trans is autism gone wild, the JEW media parades the medical abomination option in front of retards
>fucking absolute madmen they actually went for, holy shit have fun living as clipped boy the clipper
Yall some kind of retards that think you're unicorns