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>score INTJ straight for 4 years >famous INTJs >Marx,

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>score INTJ straight for 4 years
>famous INTJs
>Marx, Rand, Nietzche, Lenin, Breivik, Kaczynski

There is truly no hope for me
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http://www.celebritytypes.com/intj.php
famous INTJs
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Tfw INTJ and always engulfed in mental chesslike manuvering
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at least you aren't INFJ, they can be scarier
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I came to the conclusion that I'm INTJ in the most INTJ way possible

I disregarded the tests and studied MBTI theory and functions daily for a month and rigorously observed my own behavior and churned over my past
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I'm a mix of INFP and INTJ, honestly I don't know how.

>>37169618
Oh shit, so many famous leftfags and libshits... At least there's Breivik and Varg. Plus Heraclitus, Asimov etc.
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>>37170519
INTJs seem scary on the outside, but are actually soft and sensitive on the inside. INFJs seem soft and sensitive on the outside but are cold as ice on the inside.
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>>37170738
>honestly I don't know how.
Because you're not.
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>>37170754
do one for infps!
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feels good to be ISTP
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i find that finding out I'm an INTJ an there's other people like me quite comforting because in real life I've literally never fit in anywhere except for this kid in grade 3 who had the same philosophical thoughts as me at a really young age

I have a few normie friends from high school that I occasionally hang out with but they don't really understand me and just mock everything I say or do when I'm not putting on the faux persona so that I don't go crazy in my isolation. But recently I've just given up. I haven't spoken to anyone in 5 months and just ignore their messages. I can't be bothered pretending to be someone I'm not anymore.
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>>37170802
They're just soft and sensitive all the way through. Occasionally they'll try to be brooding and standoffish but anyone with a glimmer of insight can easily determine that they're only doing this because they're literal babies who are scared of getting their feelings hurt
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>>37170878
f-f-fug off
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>>37170878
I just wish everybody would love me like I love them ;-;
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>>37169532
If you're not any of the following, you're not a robot
INTJ
INTP
ENTP
INFJ
ISTJ
ISTP

And ENTP is debatable, whether or not they even belong.
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>>37170971
Where's INFP
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ENTJ.
I married my now wife, so I would accomplish the life goal of having a wife. I'm going to go for the children goal next. First I have to fix her a bit, she's a project wife at the moment and I must mold her to my liking.
Extroverts don't die alone.
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>>37170976
I forgot about them
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Personality types are as dumb as believing in zodiac signs, and only normies believe in these things

stop these threads, take your normie shit to facebook
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>>37171000
If I wasn't already hurt I would be now ;~;
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>>37171003
>randomly attributed sign is comparable to a set of traits and hierarchical functions that are easily observable and serve a purpose in helping others relate to similar types of people

It's no hard science, but you're not very clever.
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>be INTJ
>sympathize with Breivik, Teddy and Varg
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I used to get INTJ and INTP with neither the J nor P very strong; After being neet for almost a year I got INTP-t securely
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>>37170991
sounds like your wife should leave you
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>>37170991
Everyone's an individual anon, you'll only hurt her and yourself in the process.
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>>37171052
it's complete arbitrary bullshit m8

and it's been debunked, almost every time you take the test you'll be placed in a new category

The only personality group you belong to is
with the lowest level retards of society
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>>37171165
used to also get intj, but eventually slipped more over to intp.

wonder what causes that? lack of confidence in perceived values? too much thinking??
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>>37171241
Women are beasts that must be tamed
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>>37171283
literal memesogyny
Why marry if you clearly don't love her for her?
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>>37171111
>INTJ
>"""""thinkers"""""""""

If an INTP or even an INFJ wrote this, it I'd be a respectable and fair criticism rather than an emotionally charged smackdown.
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>>37170991
ENTJ and trying to get into a relationship with another ENTJ.

She's my current project and I'm fucking it up. Any advice?
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>>37169532
> Believing this bullshit
Truly there isn't, but for other reasons.
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>>37169532
>hurr durr I got a bunch of smart philosophers and ideological leaders, totally sucks I'm so smart, right guys? :^)
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>>37169532
>>37171052
You guys are fucking autistic basing your life around this shit

you seriously go around classifying people into these groups? So any new person you meet you put them in a box and base your interactions with them around the label you've given them? Instead of treating a person as individual you treat them a personality type, that is sad.
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who here /barely intp/
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>>37171358
>>37171419
>'I'm dumb ma :( thefore everybody is dumb :P'
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What's the cutest personality type?
Asking for a friend
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>>37171277
being too lazy to keep organized or commit myself to doing something when it feels much more rewarding to sit and think to myself
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>>37171503
xNFP
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>famous ISTPs:
>Miyamoto Musashi
>Erwin Rommel
>Vladimir Putin
>Diogenes

Is anymore proof needed that we are the greatest personality type?
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>>37171419
>normie upset that he isn't a special snowflake

lmao

and no they aren't boxes. not everybody of one type is identical. If you actually did some research instead of being so upset you'd understand what it actually is you're attempting poorly to criticize, which is the functions you use to think, feel and take in information.
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>>37171545
What makes you say so?
I'm new to these mbti memes.
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for anybody on the fence about their type look up functions. it will give you a clearer explanation of how it works.

see pic related. INTP and INTJ are wildly different types. the tests give a poor explanation of this
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>>37171547
>greatest
>most normie type after istjs

>>37171570
Empirical data. Except for two degenerate fatsos, people from that select group are cutesy in both looks and personality.
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>>37171611
yea but what makes nfps cute?
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>>37171640
Introverted feeling function as both dominant and auxiliary makes their behavior to be regarded as the general term of cuteness. They're concerned about inner harmony as well as everything that they regard as important to their personal values.

They also have extraverted intuition as both dominant and auxiliary respectively, which makes them see a world of possibilities and how everything is connected. Unlike the xNTPs who use logic to back up this world of possibilities, they use emotions.

They also tend to be very attractive and cute in a pixie way
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>>37171401
I'm not sure if being a Kaczynski is something to aspire to, anon.
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>>37171731
I'm actually just an infp who wanted to be called cute, thanks anon
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>>37172070
Kaczynski was a good guy. don't insult him!
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>>37172101
I wanna be called cute too
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>>37172593
You're pretty gay, anon.
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>>37172593
YOU'RE ADORABLE ANON
Don't ever think otherwise
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>>37172101
I forgot to say they were clingy too
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>>37172953
I wouldn't call clingy cute
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>>37170519
Not true. It doesn't take a lot to shut them down
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>>37172953
I can't tell if you're trying to be mean or not
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>>37173514
Think harder, bunny
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>>37169532
at least you're not in the same group with jesus and hitler
>tfw INFJ
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>>37173579
I still can't tell if you were teasing me, or saying clingy infps are cute >>37173992
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>>37174250
d-didn't mean to quote the end there
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I'm the person why said they wanted to be called cute, I'd never want to be clingy, nor do I like being around clingy people
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>>37170864
is being this lonely part of being an INTJ?
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>>37170828
>feels good to be ISTP
no it doesnt
t. another ISTP
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>tfw swap between istp and intp
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>>37174477
This

>you will never be ultraChad ESTP
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>>37169532
You think there's no hope for you eh?
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I just wanted to be like the rest of the girls, but I never ever could fucking fit in, ever.
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>>37169532
>There is truly no hope for me
If you believe broscience psychology like the MBTI test, there really isn't.

If you stop pigeonholing yourselves in shitty highschool meme personality tests you will realise the negative traits on your personality aren't so deeply ingrained and you can actually improve your life.
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>>37174864
The other girls are weak, crush them with a self made robot.
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>>37174864
we're too smart for the normies
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>>37169532
>famous personality type
>person long dead before the test was even invented
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>>37171251
>almost every time you take the test you'll be placed in a new category
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>>37169532
>/r9k/ is the INTJ board
>INTJs are the "everything would be better if we all lived by my untested, far-fetched and convoluted plans and everyone who disagrees with me is literally retarded" type
>we all still wonder why we are failures
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>>37174279
>>37174250
Holy shit. I was fucking with you bro.

Chill out for once. You don't have to care about what others say about you

>>37173992
Are INFJs the dudes who post memes about having two personalities, nicest guy on earth vs twisted fucking psychopath?
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>>37171555
>implying these shitty normie tier tests aren't the pinnacle of special snowflake retardation
Seriously just fuck off back to kikebook or tumblr already ya normie
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>>37174864
Be my ISTP gf. Rarest female type after INTPs imo

>>37170864
Can relate. I'm not INTJ though but an "unhealthy" ENTJ which is basically the same shit. I do like using normie friends for entertainment and I don't have to pretend to be someone I'm not. At least not anymore. That's some amazing Amy shit right there.
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>>37174279
>>37174250
Lol thanks for proving my point.
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>ENTJ
>good looking
>tfw can self insert as the vast majority of villains in media
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Just got professionally diagnosed as an ENTP for free boys

feels good man. I'll have an entire week of not questioning my type now I think.
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>>37170878
How about INTP?
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>>37171583
So how do you figure if you lead with Ne or Ti
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>>37176027
Are you intelligent and capable of making a great amount of logical connections and forming new ideas
or
are you a pseudo-intellectual half-wit who can't form a single logical thought?
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>>37170677
this shit right here i asked myself almost the same question i mean like is there any personality that wouldnt give a fuck about the test everybody seems to accept what the test say withouth asking themselves how it work
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>>37176061
Wouldn't say I'm particularly intelligent.
But I can still form logical thoughts, am analytical and am mostly logical overall. Still a mess on the inside though
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>>37176125
>Still a mess on the inside though
Are you deeply sensitive and insecure on the inside?
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>>37176255
Yeah pretty much. I know that's a defining INTJ trait for some reason, but I feel somewhat closer to INTP in general, which is why I asked how to differentiate their leading functions.
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>>37176286
Probably just a relatively balanced mix of the functions between INTP/INTJ. There's no evidence for the function stack like in pic >>37171583 existing and most people use all of the functions to different extents.
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>>37176027
>if you lead with Ne
That's ENTP. INTP leads with introverted thinking. Basically if you're a very factual person then you're probably INTJ because INTP's care about their subjective thought over facts.
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>>37176326
I hadn't thought about that, it makes sense since cognitive function tests sometimes give me Ti leading but Te as a second function.
>>37176335
Sorry, I meant Ni, the leading function for INTJ.
>if you're a very factual person
Aren't both concerned with objective, measurable data, though?
>INTP's care more about their subjective thoughts over facts
I've never heard that before.
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>>37176396
>Aren't both concerned with objective, measurable data, though?
INTJs are much more concerned about it. INTP's think and rethink everything in different possible scenarios. INTJ's have this "intuitive gut" thinking which can happen out of thin air. INTP's on Ti-Si loop tend to dwelve on past memories and basically lives in past and shouting at everyone who says that maybe there's another way looking at it.
INTJ's on Ni-Fi loop become very idealistic, for them everything has a meaning and they tend to look too deep into simple matters. In that way they become less logical than usually.
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>>37176587
>"intuitive gut" thinking
I thought the "forming random interconnections and patterns" was more of a Ti thing.
>lives in past
Which is why they tend to indulge in vicarious behavior a lot?
>too deep into simple matters
Basic overthinking, or is it something else?
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well now I've got
>CHEERLEADER
>SO AND SO
>WHAT'S HER FACE
>THE UGLY ONE
along with the music playing in my head
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>>37169532
ENTP-A/INTP-T here(my score depends on a test) apart from having a huge narcissism problem.I feel bad for being 19 and not having any talent or money hence the fear of becoming nothing and not having a house,family.
Just cuking my shit up with some sort of bipolar personality.
Amazing!
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>>37176825
>Which is why they tend to indulge in vicarious behavior a lot?
Victim complex is not much of a INTP behavior.
>Basic overthinking, or is it something else?
It's just magical thinking that everything means something big. They become lost in their ideas.
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I GOT YA A GROUNDBREAKING THEORY, A GIFT TO R9K !!!
90% of INTPs are
1. raised by tv.
2.bullied in thier life.
3.sheltred.
4.forced by parents to get good grades.
5.Internet addict.
6.Takes more then gives.
7.easly gets full of himself.
8.Lazy
9.Procrastinators
10.have emotions, are sensible, unaware most the time of it.
here you got the trash tier INTP or simply, 90% of INTPs.
intp numbers are increasing.
they are more then just 3 million. they arent rare.
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>>37177004
you can shut the fuck up now.
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>>37177078
Well you can stop being a cunt you fat fuck.
KYS I always see a correlation between fat men with boobs and how fucking "superior" they are on internet.
Maybe clean the doritos crumbs off your shirt and they type anything with your greasy fingers.
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>>37175487
w-what was your point
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>>37177028
>magical thinking
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>>37177004
>he still thinks somedy cares what he mumbles.
pathetic.grow up.
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>>37176255
>>37176286
Why are all INTP's described as unemotional machines?
I'm definitely an INTP (http://www.typologycentral.com/wiki/index.php/INTP describes me perfectly) but I'm still an insecure, self-loathing >tfw no gf loser. Not a calculating misunderstood genius or whatever.
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>>37177672
>I'm still an insecure, self-loathing >tfw no gf loser
Because you're in Fe grip.
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>>37170971
I'm ENFP and I work in entertainment business, have a kinky loving gf with whom we've had mff-threesomes, I have large circle of friends and my life is one big adventure and I love it. And still I post here and am a robot ;)
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>>37177798
What does that mean?

roblox
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>>37177672
Half the sites that educate about MBTI have no fucking clue themselves

INTPs are not unemotional, they just have a poor relationship with their emotions, and this often makes them more emotional than types with feeling as their third function.

An INTP is more likely to get torn up and upset over something than an ENTP is, who consequently has earned a reputation for the ideal psychopath type.
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>>37169532
>ENTP
>starts exerting myself more in public, making myself more noticable
>people like me
>making friends
>hanging out often
>dating someone now
>everyone likes me and thinks im super fuckin chill
>possibly gonna lose virginity soon
>even though im a normie, i browse thread to give others advice and stuff

Was it really this easy? I would've done it a while ago if it really was.
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>>37177829
>What does that mean?
google on Extroverted Feeling in INTP.
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>>37177851
>Half the sites that educate about MBTI have no fucking clue
The one posted is really well written and informative, though
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>>37171583
INTJs approach to logic is very empirical, tried true and tested.

INTPs approach to logic is very analytical, deductive and more subjective (relying less on empirical facts).

INTPs are primarily logicians, and INTJs are primarily visionaries.
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>>37170828
Istp here. Everything is bad and never gets better.
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>>37177858
Same thing for me pretty much. 3 years ago I was recovering from a suicide attempt with massive brain fog and hell tier OCD, I never washed, I got in fights a lot, my dad hated me and I couldn't stop being abusive to my mom.

I feel a lot more positive about my life now. I think it's not too long until I find my a qt and ascend to normie hood.

Being an ENTP feels like delayed god mode. Most ENTPs I know had terrible teenagehoods but turned things around eventually and now are in quality positions.
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>>37171350
Go for a qt ISFP desu they're made for u
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>>37177874
Hmm, I didn't read the entire article, but judging on the few lines I glanced at and what I've read before, are you sure it wasn't saying that INTPs **appear** aloof and emotionless?

Because, from I know of INTPs, they generally appear neutral and unfettered, but are very emotional on the inside, especially prone to poor emotions.
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>>37177051
pretty spot on. although I was forced to get not really good grades, but C's at least. just enough to get by, which followed me into adulthood where I just get by...
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>>37175981
INTPs are extremely cold robots who are only guided by their inner logic. The only reason an INTP will do something nice to you would be if it benefits them.

An INTP will do favors for you because 1) It increases the likelyhood that you will bring back a favor for them

2) You stop bothering them
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turns out im "intp" can someone give me a quick rundown i dont feel like looking up stuff :^)

also you faggots have molded me in such a way that i cannot process information if it does not insult me every 2 sentences.
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>>37178193
>this meme again
Inferior Fe doesn't imply sociopathy or even schizoid PD.

The least sensitive types tend to be INFJ and ENTP, sometimes ISTP. But INFJ in general can be stone cold. INTP are just afraid of showing their emotions because they don't understand them, so they attempt to suppress them
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>>37178271
You're right. I was a bit hyperbolic to spark some discussion on that since I'm an INTP myself and emotions is all or nothing for me, as what tends to be the case with the inferior function.

I can be very feelzy sometimes, do things for people i wouldnt normally do, act weird, be funny, goofy and generous, but i dont do this very often.

INFJs are very agendaic, if that's even a word. They manipulate peoples feelings it seems like, "for the greater good". Hitler was very likely an INFJ
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I just want to be a superhero or something, my heart yearns for that clash against evil

t. INTJ
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any other istps into guns?
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>>37177923
>>37178193
go back to redit. you retard know nothing but cliches.
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Redpill me on mbti
If mbti types are horoscopes how come there are measurable differences between these people?
If these types were as good as horoscopes, we would expect (say) the income distribution to be relatively flat.
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I'm ESFP

What do I do?
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>>37178502
>I'm ESFP
Ask yourself what are you doing here?
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>>37178441
would you want to be a sailor on a Fletcher class in the pacific theatre with me if you could ?
:D
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>>37178484
hey, >>37177923
is perfectly true though.
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>>37178490
>ISxP
>Lowest
FUCK
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>>37178517
I honestly don't know, it's been part of my routine for so long
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>>37178397
Pretty much. Situations INTP aren't emotionally involved in are treated very coldly most of the time unless they make a conscious effort to feel empathy "manually". On the other hand, situations they're emotionally involved in tend to make them extremely passionate and often helpless for those with an Fe grip, since they don't understand themselves, fear becoming irrational, so they strangle their own emotions which makes them feel even worse.
Not to mention that when an INTP is emotionally involved in a debate of ideas for example, his desire for objectivity and clean logic can directly clash with his analytical mind.
This is my own personal experience, but in these situations I tend to start acting hypocritically by becoming biased despite placing a high importance on intellectual rigor.
This is very unproductive.

>Hitler was very likely an INFJ
Yeah probably. INFJ are pretty fascinating, I honestly don't understand how they work on a deeper level.
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>>37178502
you are bait, son.
>>37178519
you are right,just go back to redit. not samefag, Right ?
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>>37169532
>buying into the idea that all aspects of human thought and behaviour can be condensed into 16 different categories

You're engaging in an expanded version of the introvert/extrovert garbage that Buzzfeed likes to peddle. Sort yourselves out.
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>>37169532
Just did the test - I'm ENFJ

Happy with that!
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>>37178543
>it's been part of my routine for so long
What do you gain by visit this hellhole?
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>>37178626
Entertainment I guess. I occasionally make self improvement and feel-good posts to help alleviate everyone's autism, but that's for my own enjoyment
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>>37178556 in a period of thier lives
they think they owe thier society,friends or family something,but secretly and they try to help it solve thier fundamental problems that threaten thier existence.
but they wouldnt help.
INFJ help me help you.

am i wrong, i dont think so.
anyway, dont fear refugees beat them and dont reason with them, because they are cowards who were dumb dropouts in thier home country and left it for pussy because they couldnt get any back home. losers.
thanks to the west we had great childhoods and thats enough reason to preserve it.
think who would care so much about children that he will spend 100h drawing an episode of cartoon. who is so brave to fund it.
And hitler did unironically nothing wrong, he was tottaly natural and loved his people. and it was invitable to get someone as hitler in power.
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>>37178558
>you are right,just go back to redit. not samefag, Right ?

what's wrong with what >>37177923
said though? INTPs do think that way.

Are you saying that we're implying that INTPs are completely unemotional or something? That's not the case. INTPs are emotional, but their style of rationalisation is completely different to INTJs.
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>>37178713
>I'm so above it all

And yet here you are, posting in a Myers-Briggs thread with all the other idiots that don't recognise it for the pseudo-science it is
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>>37178832
That's why I belong here
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>>37169532
I fucking hate being INTP, I would give everything to be reborn as an INTJ to be honest.
>INTJ
visionary, can predict the future and get stuff done. Great leader, passionate and high self-esteem.
>INTP
just nitpicking the present and useless thoughts, will never be successful. Usually has to adjust his expectations and settle with what he has to be happy in life so essentially a loser.
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>>37178958
>falseflagging this blatantly
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What types are the most likely to be compatible with INTP for a romantic relationship?
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>>37178958
>t. INTJ

two steps ahead of you, kiddo
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>>37178556
>>37178758
Do you people by any chance know the youtuber Pat Condell? He's a youtuber talking about politics, immigration in europe and stuff

Most likely an INFJ - heres a video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9e_vcSut0A
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>>37179011
Maybe I exaggerated a bit, but I am genuinely interested in becoming an INTJ if that's even possible.
I'm now training my Ni by extrapolating current events to the future, cuz that's how it works right?
Maybe in 10 years time I'll be a pseudo-INTJ
>>37179069
fuggg
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>>37169532
>went from INFP to ISTP and now I'm ISTJ in just a few month
WHO AM I?
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>>37179397
The 16personalities test is shit.
First narrow things down to two types by figuring your dominant function (eg. if you're Ti dominant you're either INTP or ISTP). You can read up on the functions on a blog called mbti-notes, it's fairly exhaustive.
Then go to typologycentral and figure out your type based on the description that fits you most.

This is the only actual way to determine "what" you might be. Online tests are shit and only work if you're a literal caricature of a person.
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>>37179440
>Then go to typologycentral and figure out your type based on the description that fits you most.
Jesus no. Then he'll have confirmation bias when doing tests. Better do cognitive functions test like
>http://www.keys2cognition.com/explore.htm
>http://keirsey.jung.test.typologycentral.com/
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>>37179554
>confirmation bias
The fuck are you talking about?
Reading about what types actually are and how they use their functions is the best way to determine which one fits you the most.
Of course I meant the wiki (www.typologycentral.com/wiki/index.php), not the forum or whatever.
By determining his primary function (eg. Ti) then comparing the descriptions of ISTP and INTP it'll be much easier for him to figure out which one he is, since one of the two will inevitably sound more right than the other.

Cognitive functions tests are only marginally better than four-letter tests and for people who don't strictly fit into the categories, the results will often be inconclusive (hybrid of two types for example).
Not to mention the questions might be perceived as unclear or too vague for some.
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>>37179626
>questions might be perceived as unclear or too vague for some
That's not a problem if you cannot read.
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>>37179554
>>37179626
I forgot to add, determining his enneagram type might also help, since there's often a correlation between MBTI and enneagram.
There was a chart about this, but I didn't save it. For example, an INTP is highly likely to be an enneagram 5w4 or 5w6, while one or two other enneagram types are, on the contrary, very unlikely to fit INTP. This might help.
>>37179671
You mean can?
Also, it doesn't matter since this wasn't my point. Cognitive function tests are less accurate than self-typing either way. Relying on multiple choice questions to tell you who you are is stupid.
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>>37179160
Ahhh I remember Pat Condell, I came across him when I was less than 10 years old, I'm 18 now and he forever changed my life by introducing me to politics at a young age.

In otherwords he made me extremely autistic.
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>>37175606
We usually are though.

All thanks to Si and Fe users. We should genocide everyone who has them on their main function stack
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>>37179692
>There was a chart about this, but I didn't save it.
You mean this one?
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>>37179828
>You mean this one?
Yeah, thanks.
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>>37170971
>implying ENFPs are not robots

do you even grasp the concept of this shit

if all you do is dream of a perfect world, everyone else WILL hate you for wanting it and working towards it, they will try to fuck your shit up or just instinctively counteract you.

"genki anime girl that is actually dead inside" fits this shit 1000%, we are nice to everyone and want to get along but everyone else thinks thats annoying and treats us like shit and since we try to stay positive they dont know what damage they cause and just keep getting more brutal to some of the most sensitive of peoples

also, we're extroverted so really we NEED the social contact we don't get, that's what makes us the fucking robotos

>>37177823
you fuck off and die you shitty troll
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>>37180012
>ENFPs
I used to think that it was being introverted that makes someone a robot but now I'm convinced that it is NP. If you are NP as opposed to SJ, you are a robot.

t. INTP, the most robotic of all types. and I give my blessing to ENFP's in this matter
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>>37179032
Anyone?
don't mute me no more
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INTP here how can I befriend an INTJ? I don't know what he likes to talk about and I never know if he likes me or not
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>>37175015
He, a year has gone by and people still posting my INTP confirmation-biass img.

There trully is no escape for such a flawed world lens. Its like watching sisyphus pushing his boulder trapped in a moebius string.
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>>37181074
>There trully is no escape for such a flawed world lens.
Acceptance and resignation
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>>37180506
Stroke his ego by letting him talk about his theories
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>>37180506
ISTJs are waaaaaaaay better friends, they will set you up for succes.
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>>37182050
ISTJs are pretty great. Reliable, down to earth and realistic. They're a bit boring sometimes but they're usually cool people to be around
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>>37171611
Tell me more about the degenerate fatsos.

t. fat INFP
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>>37182282
One is a creeplord who looks like Chris Chan's lost twin and apologizes for fucking everything.

The other one is a homo trap loving schizo who shares crap about anarchofeminism
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>>37171611
>normie
>dude literally sleeps on a barrel, >decapitates chikens to fluster normies >and his only friends are stray dogs.
>emperor offer his wathever he wishes
>hes so fed up with the world he tells him to gtfo so he can have a hobo sun bath.

???
my istj friends are all 4chan lurkers than are succesfull at life, but being able to function in society doesnt equate to being a normie.
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>>37169532

>OP believes that his future endeavors in life revolving around intellectual insight will solely be predicated off personality as if it was 'fated to be'
>he has somehow associated that fitting into a specific niche of neurotic behavior that at some point he will be alongside the names of the men he listed in terms of life-long achievement, thus providing even more fuel to the flames which is the illness that enables his delusions of grandeur
>instead of reading books, expanding his horizons, confronting his fears and insecurities he instead swoons over the prospect that his failures in life are simply attributed to a neuroscience taboo
>you can't make this shit up
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>>37182068
I'm an INTJ with an ISTJ Dad.

he's a good guy but he is so mundane and practical that it's almost completely maddening. you can barely have an interesting conversation with him because anything more in depth than sports, his job, food or just anything physical and practical is as he would say "over my head"
this has always been the biggest hurdle between me and him. I absolutely love talking
about life in general and pondering different ideas and viewpoints in conversation but it's literally impossible to have these types of talks with him. and if try he'll just turn to stone and not know what to say and then divert the conversation to something mundane like how he painted his garage door or something
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>>37169532
You don't say OP.
Show me yours and I'll show you mine.
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>>37183180
also another pet peeve is that he will never question the meaning or true purpose of what he's doing. He's extremely frugal and saves money, works hard and diligently fulfills duties etc, not for some great meaning or purpose but simply because "that's what you do". It's like he's constantly preparing for an unforeseeable future that never comes rather than questioning what is truly purposeful
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>>37183150
Its even worse than than, for his delusion doesnt even come from ignorance, rather, it comes from willingly embracing this oracle, its a fucked up self fullfiling prophecy.
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Im INTP-T but I dont consider myself intelligent tbhwy
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>>37183217
be more assertive my dude
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>>37169532
>tfw you cant relate to these autists
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>>37183402
Dreamy, lost in thought, drifts himself into a world in witch he holds more control than in the real one, not necesarily academically intelligent nor succesful.
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>>37183617
pretty accurate friendo
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>>37170971
ESTP
FeelsGoodMan
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>>37183551
O-Ok, anon. I will. Thank you.
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>>37183660
Stop feeding into my narcissism you human shaped stepping stone.
god I trully do hate intp's.
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>>37183558
why are you even here? I say this not because I hate you but because if I had your personality I would be living life and not an internet addict in my cave
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Why are ISTPs such badasses ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X2SQ6eXVok
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>>37183558
Same. -STP is a strange life.
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>>37171000
It happens

...a lot
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISTex1J6Gec

20 signs you might be a complete autistic loser
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Hey guys.
Join the new shit disc0rd serb: w565UwY
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>>37169532
Istp here, sociopath lv 1
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>>37183748
no need to get mad
ori
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>>37180506
>INTP
>local doctor is a cold INTJ
>he's also my sister's best friend's father
>my sister knows he's very intelligent and critical, and it makes it kinda hard for him to connect with other people
>he doesn't even know I'm his daughter's best friend's brother
>always ask him stuff about medicine and shit, show interest in what he does
>after a while he starts explaining things to me, and kinda enjoys it
>once I get very sick and feel very dizzy
>he's happy to see me, I'm just here because I need him to give me something REALLY BAD
>he attempts jokes and stuff
>I'm too out of my mind to even notice, just answer his question and take the prescription
>next time I see him I'm back at square 1

INTJs aren't easy.
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>always get intj
>it's supposed to rare
>see people with it all the time
>don't feel like intj
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>>37183864
>I need to feel unique so much that I'll challenge even reality to achieve this purpose
Fi, ladies and gents.
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>tfw not quite sure if actually INFJ or INTJ
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>>37183864
it's rare in the real world. r9k is not the real world. This place is literally a honeypot for INTPs and INTJs

I think it has something to do with being openly able to speak your mind anonymously and have playful conversations that require quite a lot of abstraction. I think this happens because we never feel like we can truly express ourselves in the real world without being labelled a weirdo or normies getting offended.

I feel on 4chan I can express myself with the most clarity and purity because it isn't muddled by all the other social bullshit and people judge you based purely on the weight of what you are saying.
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>>37183765
I'm living life bro. I'm just here to see how you people live, like i spend less than an hour on here
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>>37183777
Indeed Brodie
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any other INTJs dream of living self sufficiently in a comfy cabin in the woods?

I can't think of anything I want more.
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Join the disc0rd for some comfy myers discussion
But especially if you're not an NT type. We need some d i v e r s i t y
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>>37177823
FUCK OFF NORMIE SCUM
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
In order to make that post you had to fill a CAPTCHA saying you were not a robot
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>>37184551
>tfw 10^12.5 users can't post and agree with you cause captcha
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>tfw no xSTJ dad
>tfw no INFP mom

Who here hates his normie sensor parents?

>Anon you're le brilliant xD lets drag your life down to our shit level so you can be even more brilliant
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>>37184042
That or death
i wanna fucking die so bad
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>>37184743
>INFP mom
You don't want that.
Trust me, you seriously don't want that.
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>>37184743
Istp dad, estj mom.
They really coudnt be more different.
Shes is really all you could ask for a mother, tho.
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>>37185694
Meant to type esfj*
although she was a really bookwormyvtype when she was younger.
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>>37170971
>I'm an ENTP
>tfw I'm a cyborg
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Sry for dissapering like that discord tards, my pc imploded and has been running a disk check since.
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>be INFP
>have ENFP girlfriend

Truly, life is beautiful, guys.
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>>37182001
We are indifferent to praise and criticism.
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>>37183180
>>37183302
I also have an INTJ father. He was controlling and not a very understanding person so now I'm forever emotionally estranged from him.

I'm a Capricorn and he's a Virgo
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>>37170991

>he thinks he can change people

Wew lad. People dont change, they just learn to adapt to get what they want/need, or to avoid a negative reaction from others. If by a miracle she wont just tell you to fuck off after some time she either needs/wants something you have (money most likely), is terrified of you and thinks you'll hurt her if she leaves you or you're much more attractive than her and have higher social status, which she wouldnt want to lose out on obviously. It shouldnt be too hard to figure out which one it is if by some miracle she doesnt leave you like i said.
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>>37171251

>he thinks the theory revolves around tests

Youre too retarded to figure out how this works, if we're the lowest level of retards in society you wouldnt make it into the hierarchy that could define you as a retard.
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>>37178193

>. The only reason an INTP will do something nice to you would be if it benefits them.

No, thats Te doms. INTPs wont do anything for anyone usually. Infact being an INTP is by definition the desire to never do anything in the physical/real world outside of the bare necessary to life a comfortable life.
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I've got a question for you guys.
I'm an ENFP and I feel this constant call to greatness. Like I need to leave my mark on history and become a great man. Obviously, this isn't a rare thing, but since coming to college, I've met a greater variety of people with different goals. When I talk about these ambitions with others, they look at me like I'm crazy. Is this a product of my type? Who I am as a person? What other types are likely to express this desire? What types are likely to shun this view? I get the feeling that sensors are more likely to have an aversion to this line of thinking.

Please note I'm not trying to come across as a narcissist btw. It might be the fact that my peers are growing older and getting more realistic about their roles in the world. But I can't bring myself to buy in to that philosophy. It just looks so defeatist to me.
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>>37179440

Actually that test is very good if you answer honestly and truthfully, but since most people are retards who cant spot trends and just nitpick whatever they did yesterday and lie about themselves they end up answering wrongly, and most importantly, inconsistently, so you get a different result. Its not infallible though like any test out there, but its good if you know how to use it.
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>>37170754
Because ppl annoy us easily so it's easy just to give off the air of fuck off
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>>37170878
Oh ho, get a load of this woke faggot
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Generally intj, sometimes istp~intp depending on test, enneagram aways 5w4
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>tfw INTJ
>tfw I plan my life years at a time
>tfw the smallest thing fucks up my plans and I get depressed but I eventually get on track
Feels bad d e s u.
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>>37179828
Impressive, fits just right with my results
>>37186821
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Im smrt
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>>37169532
I'm an ISTJ who wants to work but can't find anything good. I just want to work, have a nice family and support them with my paycheck. But nooooooooo. All jobs must go to refugees now and any jobs that don't go to them are only temporary work that pays shit.

I want to die
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>>37178490
>INTP

god damn it

well at least it's not an ISxP
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>>37186663
that explains why some intps can get so PHAT
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>>37179828
4w5 INFP here.

I spent every day since Wednesday afternoon up to right now doing nothing but playing Heroes of the Storm. I have work for 3 classes to do and I haven't even started, a test is tomorrow and I'm not prepared at all. I just wish I could not exist, I get stressed and I go back to doing games or 4chan to feel worthwhile and that always only makes it worse. Never ending cycle of being a fucking idiot. Now I'm venting here when I could be writing this down but I'm either crying for attention or help or maybe this is the only place where I can say things and have people listen. I'm tired, /blog
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>>37169532
how do u know if theyre intj if the test didnt exist back then
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>>37186667
I think that you're the kind of person who wants to do great things for many people. and be remembered for that. it's a similar thing with other enfps and maybe infps but it's not limited to that type. the ones who shun such a view are usually the 'realists' who believe everything is strictly as-is and dont believe changing it is possible. it's not a bad goal to reach out for, you aren't just accepting things how they are.
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good thread
oregano tbqh
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>>37171000
owie. nice trips
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>>37174864
Nice to see fellow ISTPs on here.

Do I look like one to you guys?

pic related ofc
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> Marx
wtf I want to be an INTJ now

> Rand
wtf I hate INTJ's now
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>>37174453
Not the same guy but I'm an an INTJ too. Being alone is part of it because odds are you won't reach out to be around other people. I wouldn't say it's lonely though. It's not like I feel a need to be around many people, and if I ever do, I can always contact them
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>>37184042
I feel exactly the same way, but I've always wanted to live up in some mountains.
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>>37169532
Link me to a good test.
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>>37180012
HHOLY FUCKKKK THIS POST DECRIBES MY ENTIRE LIFE

REEEEE AT ALL YOU FUCKING NORMIES NO ONE WILL EVER LOVE ME ITS NOT FAIR I JUST WANT TO BE HELPFUL AND ALLL I GET IS FUCKING BULLIED

sorry I needed to vent I'm okay now
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>>37186667
I used to be this sort of way until I got super depressed and now I just wanna be okay and not super great

Except I'm still really competitive. Idk man also you almost got quads nice
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>>37190011
Enfp girls are troubled cute gfs to hold tight and wife material.
Enfp boys are doomed
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>>37189927
You must be the "faggot" type if you went down here without checking the second post of the thread.
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>>37190078
THIS IS TRUE AS FUCK

AND

IT

MAKES

ME

SO

FUCKING

ANGREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>37190078
>tfw no ENFP gf
>which happen to be rare af in women
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>>37190185
>>37190078
My mom is an ENFP
I am an ESTJ
ENFP's make great mother material
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>>37190185
I met an ENFP girl off r9k and I fell in love with her, she is literally the best girl in the world

It's just not fair man why can't I have an ENFP gf

I have a fellow ENFP friend irl and he's had a bunch of gfs before, like he has a way to control his autism unlike me. How he do it???
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>>37180012
>we are nice to everyone and want to get along
>you fuck off and die you shitty troll
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>>37190216
What you do not understand is that we are just trying to help you all but no one ever wants our help

And over the years it becomes REALLY FUCKING GRATING so when someone wants to fuck with us sometimes we have a lot of FEELINGS and we reeeeEEEEEEEE
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>>37169532
Those tests are BS.
Your bias usually won't let you pick your real type.
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>so youre dying alone
My sides
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>>37190102
That only lists celebrities.
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>>37190207
What's ur mom's number dog
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Welcome back, my children.
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ESTJ master race reporting in fgts
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>>37177986
remember me ENTP when I ascend to godhood

sincerely, your brother INTP
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>>37190210
Feels like shit bro. Even my INTP bro is going to get a gf.

Also, ENFPs have Fi > Te as their middle functions which help them to appear less autistic
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>>37190078
W-why are enfp boys doomed?
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>can't stick to goals
>relationships are hard because I change my mind a lot due to internal debate
>tough to manage money for some reason

but
>I catch on quick to just about anything, so life is super easy
>people tend to follow my lead, which makes things go smoothly

I like how my mind works. It is lonely though just because people don't like how I change my mind so much and it's tough to find a patient girlfriend. But on the whole I find it pretty nice.
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>>37190600
But I am ENFP and I appear very autistic
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>>37190642
Cause We ARE autistic and it's only cute to be feelsy and acoustic if you're a girl
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>>37187542
Sorry to hear that, and not to make it all more depressing but you would've probably get cucked big time by your wife. You'd be paying for her, AND she would get fucked my Jamal in the ass so it claps *CLAP CLAP CLAP*
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>>37190254
You weren't there for me.
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>tfw too intelligent
Help me please
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>>37190770
by*

Sorry to say it but ISTJs are the biggest cucks and beta providers of society. Rewire your brain, it's for your own good.
>>
Is there a correlation between certain types and fetishes or being attracted to older or psychologically damaged women ?
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>>37190738
>>37190722
I think it comes down to how you sell it. If you have a good sense of humor and can manage to move past anxieties, the combination of awkwardness and authenticity that ENFPs naturally exhibit comes off as warmth. Of course, as a dude this dorky awkwardness is less conventionally attractive than the more traditional cool veneer that tends to attract stacies, but if you own it with confidence it can actually be a great strength.

I can speak personally that it can get frustrating always being seen as the clowny guy that women don't take seriously. Especially compounded by the fact that there's usually a lot more going on underneath the surface and being deprived of being taken emotionally and intellectually seriously can suck a lot. That's the trap a lot of ENFP men fall into. Liked by all but loved by none. Hell, that's where I'm at in life right now. But I've also learned how to love myself recently and I have hope for the future.

TL;DR just b urself brah :^)
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>>37190388
that description can apply to any depressed rationalist type. I suggest reading about the functions of said type and typing yourself off of that
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>>37190818
Prolly intj or intp low T failure who correlates being an apathetic wallsponge who lacks drive with being smart.
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>>37190791
Who are you? I don't know you I'm sorry if I was mean. I'm here for you now if you need anything <3

>>37190884
I've been working on it man. My main problem is that I often push people away by leaving bad impressions before they can come to know my good aspects, or I push people away by being too "out there" - I dont relate to most people and act in certain ways and believe things that most people just don't get and they tbink I'm weird or annoying and end up hating me
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>INTP
>Masturbate to my imagination a lot

Is this an intuitive thing? I have done this since i was fucking 6 back when you couldnt cum, i would rub my dick against the bed. Still do, i cant do it any other way which is kinda weird
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>>37178193
>>37178193
Or they realize that theyre lonely and yearn for understanding and honest companionship, but don't understand social cues and people well enough to just make friends the normal way. Doing nice things is just one theory on how to connect with other people.
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Was he INFJ?
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>>37190990
>masturbate to imagination a lot
Same here, and I'm also intuitive

When I was a kid I would have these weird drawn out sex adventures at night, nowadays I just think of fuck scenarios in my head and supplement them with porn most of the time. I masturbate normally tho, but when I was a kid I'd squeeze my dick hard between my legs cause I didn't know how to masturbate
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>take test 2 years ago
>INTJ
>surely i've improved as a person after all this time
>take test today
>INTJ
how do i break the curse?
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>>37191047
There is. Nothing wrong with being INTJ you dumb

Frankly I quite like you guys
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>>37190962
Yep. That's the rub ain't it? I think a lot of it honestly comes with maturing as a person. Learning how to bring yourself back down to earth and have an actual conversation with a person. Can I make a guess? You have a tendency to make jokes that are absolutely brilliant in your head and when you actually crack them they come across as bizarre and completely unrelated. That Ne function can be great, I'd argue it is one of the better ones to have if not too tier, but it can be a real bitch sometimes.

Not only that, but due to the hyper sensitive self awareness that you hold (most likely caused by Fi), you hold on to that interaction and it creates even more autism. In a phrase; you overtalk and then overthink.
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>>37190990
I masturbate, or used to at least, to pics of my fetish I took. Get on my level faplet.
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>>37190990
Fellow intuitive, similar deal

Apparently I humped the floor when I was learning how to crawl. I'm pretty sure I also humped the floor well after I learnt to crawl, around the six/seven-year-old age, because rubbing an erection against the carpet at that age didn't feel too shabby
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>>37190909
You clearly didnt get the point of the img at all, that description was crafted to be as broad as posible while still remaining seemingly intimate in scope.
Its a carefully laid out trap the feeds into the INTPs child-like brain witch its desperate to project itself into anything he might find familiar and confortable.
I just find INTPs hilariously cartoonish.
If you are feeling down just surround yourself with a couople of this guys and you'll end up with a narcissistic personality dissorder lmao how could you not feel superior.
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>>37191055
But I feel so alone anon
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>>37191059
I actually do try to have conversations with people but it mostly comes out as me blurting out a bunch of words and they just become alll jumbled and don't sound like what I planned to say, but I've gotten better at that. Also I have a lot of weird ideas which sometimes offend people, or abstract ones which people can't relate to or find too odd

About the jokes you're super fucking right. I tell tons and tons of puns but people hate them, I just laugh half way through most of my jokes anyway and often can't finish cause I crack myself up too much. I don't see why people get so angry at humor. I bet they're just dumb SENSORS reee etc

Yeah... I overtalk and overthink. If someone says mean things I feel hurt by them the whole day
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>>37191092
Then get some friends anon e mouse

I will be your friend. How was your day today? What did you do

Nice cat also it is c
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>>37191092
Join the mbti discord you insecure mongrel. How are you going to find people to talk to otherwisem
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>>37191191
>bullying people about being insecure
>on r9k
Thbats not nice dude do not be mean to my friend
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>>37191024

He was obviously ENTP
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>INFP

orororoignalis
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>>37191071
Thats an awful thing to say mi hombre.
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>>37191203
Theres a difference between bulling and harsh love. Like that father who knowing he woudnt be there in the future, decided he wodnt help his paralized son when he needed to go to the bathroon so he could learn how to do it by himself.
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>>37191255
I guess you're right but be constructive not harsh you know, calling your son an insecure mongrel hurts him, telling him that he can overcome insecurities helps him

t. Someone whose fatbher didn't allow him to display sadness and bullied him
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>>37191133
Idk man. I think it comes down to the fact that we don't just think differently than most normies, but we actually show it. This throws a lot of people for a loop. People just don't like having their worldview challenged. That goes for both sensors and intuitives. I think the only other type that can truly comisserate with this feel is the ENTP. Truly our brothers.

Anyway, that's probably why people would come across as annoyed or angry at you. Your mind works by bouncing your ideas off of other people. Some just don't get it and it comes across as you trying to get attention. That's the reason a lot of introverted intuitives also look at us as normie pandering brainlets. Truly, being an ENFP is a hell that I wouldn't give up for the world.
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>tfw enfp and that whole thing is 100% accurate
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>>37170864
I can relate so much with this. I used to put up that persona to avoid being completely lonely, but it just doesn't ever feel right. I had a girlfriend that was just perfect a couple years ago but we had to end our relationship due to both leaving the country for university. God, without her I've been feeling so alone these two years, I honestly dont know if I should stick with the social persona or just do what you did.
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>>37191327
>we don't think differently
Tbh I don't think normies can think. Like I can think in emotions and feel my thoughts, it's just an intense flow of spiritual hippy shit, normies don't get that

>ENTPs are our brothers
Yes, I love ENTPs, they are cool and fun and have nice ideas just like us

>being an ENFP is a hell I wouldn't give up for the world
Well said my friend. It's hard being a huge acoust but it makes life so much more fun
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>>37191272
Gimmie your father phone so I can yell at him for not doing a better job.
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>>37191441
Aww anon that's a sweet offer

Yeah my dad really did fuck me up pretty bad good thing he stopped bullying me after I got older tho
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>>37191464
Nha I meant that despite his best efforts you still ended up like a wet towel lmao my nigga cant believe you actually let me pull it up.
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>>37191512
That was really hurtful man, what the fuck?
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>>37169532
>always alone
>take test
>get I
>am feeling feels
>take test
>get F
>am thinking about something
>take test
>get T
>have a disdain for conventionality, but may or may not be conventional in reality
>take test
>get N
>lazy and disorganized, but also like to think I'm spontaneous like a magic pixie dream girl (I'm not)
>take test
>get P
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>>37180012
>all i do is dream of a perfect world
>fuck off and die

anon
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>>37191562
You just don't understand enfps anon
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>>37191340
>>37191371
Yeah! I think you kind of inadvertently proved my point a little though. People don't like having their world views challenged, and that applies to us. For example, I can't imagine a reality where I'm not constantly lost in my own thoughts. Yet that's just how a lot of people tick. I don't hold it against them, there are some very interesting and good hearted sensors. And of course, there are the intuitive that simply made it and became normies. They're a different breed, and slightly rarer but they exist.

Like I said earlier, I'm happy with the way I think. And I don't want it to come across that enfp is all hell, there's some truly rad things to it.

I can only speak from personal experience, but I'm >>37186667
This guy. I like the fact that I've got aspirations and see the world the way I do. I like being a funny dude that people like. After a certain point, once you start liking yourself it opens a lot of doors.

Growing an ego is super helpful, just be sure to use that crazy self awareness to keep it check. I think I not only have it in myself to make it, but help others make it.

>>37191512
Cunt.
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>>37191530
Sry my dude, I guess some people just are not used to count their blessings. Like the paralized kid I talked you about, the little ungrateful cunt doesnt know how lucky he actually was, at least once upon a time he had a spine, unlike you who where born without one.

Entp btw, Im sure we would be good pals if we where to meet irl.
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>>37169618
>mises
>mencken
>rothbard
Did not expect to read their names in there
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>>37191581
It's 4am and I'm really tired so I can't reply to this my brain shutting down good night I love you sleep tight

>>37191591
>u hav no spine
Re etc

>we'd be pals irl
Yes that is if you didn't make me cry first lel

But I still love you goodnight anon
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>>37191581
Same! Honestly despite agreeing with 'genki girl, dead inside' I'm not *that* dead inside at the very least. I'm a pretty happy person overall
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>tfw ISFP with INTJ girlfriend

role reversal sure is fun, guys.
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>>37191623
I think it's just par for the course of the human experience to be sad sometimes. I never understood the "genki anime girl etc." description.

I'm a wreck most of the time, but I am thankful for it. It gives me fortitude and I always have faith that the hard times will pass, as will the good times. Being "dead inside" is an inaccurate phrase at least for me. Feeing melancholy so intensely is just proof that I'm alive, cliche as it sounds.
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ENFP's are not an enigma, they are actually really easy to understan, they are mentally fucked people who have some kind of emotional baggage (they are unable to let go) that makes them unstable. They are otherwise really enjoyable to hang around (for an ENTP like me anyways) as we both are essentially ADHD chatterboxes.
Spontaneous, and unreliable, they'll lie to your face without ill intent constantly because they cant complete the unrealistic goals they impose themselves. I had a really close ENFP friend who was constantly asking for advise in extremely personal stuff, its almost as if she didn't really wanted to be responsible for her own life. There might be correlation between being an ENFP and having a turbulent childhood.
At the end of the day, all they want is to spread happiness, regardless of their own.
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infj master race ama
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>>37170828

>ISTP
>feels anything
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>>37191706
Yeah that sounds about right desu. I don't think it's a question of not being responsible for your own life, it's more of this basic fear of confronting oneself. I think anyone can relate to that. We just talk it out before we act, that's how we work.

As for the lying thing, you're pretty on the dot. That said, we aren't inherently dishonest.

I think your opinion on enfps is pretty well formed. However, you have had the opportunity to be very close with an enfp in the past so your initial statement that we're very simple creatures isn't entirely correct.

Growing up I had an ENTP friend who I also considered very close. When I look at him, it's like looking into this weird distorted mirror. I'd talk about it, but I have work to do and as it stands I will most likely not be sleeping tonight.

Have a good night all. I hope to come back tomorrow and have the exact same discussion in a slight variation of the exact same thread. :^)
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>>37191791
can confirm
i have no feelings as an istp
only time I get feelings is when I see a man getting fucked over by the court system and when an animal is abused.
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>>37191681
lol. Well how is it?
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>>37186663
This. If I do something nice it's to make other people leave me alone.
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>>37191340
>tfw s2 never
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>>37191791
That's a incorrect statement. The correct one is that ISTP's either feel nothing or everything at same moment. That's why they can love animals and hate people simultaneously.
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>>37190216
>>37191562
at some point you learn to vent your hatred, from what I've seen this works pretty good when anonymous
basically >>37190254

we're the nicest of robotos but also the easiest to get hurt I think, we have our own reasons to reee like all the other robotos tho

>>37190011
I've realized what we are only in the last year or two anon

I wish there was a community or a post for every personality type to learn what they are and how to improve, what their mistakes are and how to fix them
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>>37190261
So how do you determine what it is?
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>>37186133
must be anon, that's a really nice combination
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>>37190078
this, it's so true af
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>INTP
>have doomed myself to a life of loneliness by creating the perfect gf in my mind and constantly daydreaming about her
wew
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>>37192475
that's a very accurate description.
But I feel stuff as ISTP. I don't feel it often, but when I do, boy oh fucking boy, it literally physically hurts my body sometimes because its so intense and overwhelming and I have a hard time controlling myself.
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>>37193174
>it literally physically hurts my body sometimes because its so intense and overwhelming and I have a hard time controlling myself
It's because you have very undeveloped Fe (extroverted feeling) and what's why subconsciousness hits you that hard. The more rational you are the more emotional you become when you feel something.
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>>37193279
How is Fe different from Fi?
INTJs are allegedly very emotional too, but is it in a different way?
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>>37193357
>INTJs are allegedly very emotional too, but is it in a different way?
First of all INTJs have Fi in tetriary (3rd) position which means that they can use it but it's very exhausting to them. ISTP's and INTP's have Fe as inferior function which is like 3 year old kid in a car - either sleeps or throws tantrums. Simple explanation would that Fi users believes that every individual is ultimately different from each therefore you should judge them differently when Fe believes in group harmony - what's good for group is also good for one. In INTJ case they want their life to mean something to them like they've lived it by their own morals not like other people. In ISTP/INTP case they want affection and caring but they're not unable to express this desire in convenient way. The more you're developed in dominant function the more weaker you're when Fe "grips" you.
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>>37169532
>tfw no matter how hard you try to assimilate, it'll never be enough
only ENTPs will know this feel
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>>37193475
>Fi users believes that every individual is ultimately different from each therefore you should judge them differently when Fe believes in group harmony
So Fi users care more about the individual than the group, while Fe users generalize based on what they think the group needs but tend to overlook the individual?
Why are so many INTJs commies then?
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You friends should join the discord
w565UwY
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>>37193491
>So Fi users care more about the individual than the group, while Fe users generalize based on what they think the group needs but tend to overlook the individual?
Basically yes.
>INTJ's
>commies
I dont think that they're INTJ unless it's some sort of flavor communism.
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>>37193519
I don't really get the top half of that picture.
>I don't think that they're INTJ
Generally speaking a lot of INTJs (not even famous ones) tend to have political opinions that are either far left or far right authoritarian, thus collectivist. I've never seen an anarchist INTJ for example, even though Fi suggests that it might be more coherent.
On the other hand, most INTPs (Fe) tend to gravitate towards various types of anarchism or libertarianism.
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>>37177986
sorry for the late response bro but if your still lurking this thread, understand it gets better for us ENTPs, I just turned 19 and lifes looking up again.
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>>37193519
>I don't really get the top half of that picture.
It's basically how Fi user looks toward a person who gets along with different type of people. For example if i'd be a metalhead and i'd hate goths but at the same time i'd be observing a person who's getting along with metalheads and goths at the same time, i'd think him as a fake.
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>>37193584
Oh alright, I get it now
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I'm convinced that the vast majority of /r9k/ users who identify as INTx are really just a bunch of autists. Last time I checked, people who are INTJ don't spend all of their time dwelling upon their lack of social interaction; they aren't the kind of people who go out of their way looking for that sort of thing.

INTJs typically end up antagonizing people by sharing their opinions and take on different subjects (which are usually correct from a logical standpoint), and people who used to hate them generally change their minds about them later on. This is because of INTJs POLR Fe, combined with the fact that people who come in contact with people of this type realize that they're not just cynical asswipes.

That's how I've always been when making friends. I have a lot of them, and I'm really not sure why or how. Nothing about my personality is very friendly or inviting; I have a tendency to come off as a douche. People either find me hilarious and down-to-earth, or just haughty and cynical. There is little medium for INTJs.

INTJs typically do find friends, although it isn't always by choice. A lot of my closest friends are people who I actually fought/argued with when I first met them, and ended up resolving things with afterwards. The issue INTJs typically run into is neglecting friendships, or forgetting about people in general because of their own interests, whatever they may be.

People on this board need to familiarize themselves with the original theory that MBTI is based on, because the character traits that people associate with various types is fucking retarded. MBTI is used to categorize the way that you subjectively process the world around you, nothing more. If you think that being INTJ means that you have to be a socially inept hermit or else you're probably a different type, then you don't understand the theory at all.

>guess what type i am
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>>37193607
>INTJ and arguing stuff
like bread and butter
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>>37193607
>users who identify as INTx are really just a bunch of autists
Why?
Does desire for social interaction automatically disqualify you from being INTx?
I'm not talking about beating yourself up for not having friends, I'm talking about yearning for social contact (often due to anxiety) which is a basic human need.
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>>37170971
I'm an ENTP and I'm a debatable robot.

Socially able only sometimes, bad at sports, people think I talk too much, midly depressed all my life, neet, almost drop out of uni studying a shitty degree, 3 sexual relationships all after I turned 21, I'm 23, every one lasted shorter than the previous.
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>>37190388
What >>37190909 said, I'm nowhere close to INTP, yet I related to what the poster in that image said.
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>>37191681
lmao, are you me?
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>>37193657
>Does desire for social interaction automatically disqualify you from being INTx?

No, I just think that people who are desperate for something in their lives search for something to cling to. In this case, a lot of people who are not actually INTJs will identify themselves as INTJs and cling to the idea that they're too fucking smart for people to like them or some other delusional shit.

Intelligence is the biggest advantage you could possibly have in life; I'm convinced that people who think otherwise aren't actually smart or still in fucking high school where most of the people you encounter are stupid fucks. People who are actually intelligent develop their own ways to wrap their heads around making friends and socializing. They tend to have some self-destructive tendencies, but they do find a way to fit in.

People who are actually INTJs and have difficulty making friends need to find a way to fix their own attitude towards their lives.

Why do you think INTx types often lean towards philosophy/psychology? It allows them to find their own way to understand the way that they, as well as other people, are. It's a way to improve their lives by cultivating the right mindset.

Mending unhealthy relationships is a good way to start. Learn what makes you happier, and do it. INTJs use Fi; they prioritize their own happiness over others.

If you met me in person, you'd probably think I'm kind of an asshole. I do this because I hate people who are fake; transparency is something I value in other people. People are much more honest with you if there is some degree of hostility involved, which is why I will never change the way I act for another person.

My point is to find what makes you happy. If you think you need other people then it's because you're missing something fundamental in life. I could live my entire life alone and be content, the people I know just make things better.
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>>37190388
AAAAAAAA STOP READING ME
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>>37193773
>Intelligence is the biggest advantage you could possibly have in life
Actually no, it's having open mind to the experiences. Overthinking is a true vice of r9k.
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>>37193807
You realize that raw intellectual ability is still a great advantage right? Open-mindedness is a sign of intelligence; it takes a lot of effort to change your mind about something. Stupid people are much more likely to reject new views. Trying to explain something to a stupid person is different than trying to explain it to someone who is intelligent; a person who is actually smart will take the time to hear you out and understand you, but a stupid person will just outright reject the things you say.

I'm not saying that intelligent people do the same, but stupid people are the least likely to accept new ideas.
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>>37193773
Some people on here have legitimate disorders that prevent them from connecting with other people, mostly due to poor self-esteem and avoidant behavior. There's also those who are legitimately apathetic.

You're right about the redditors who identify as INTJ because they want to relate to their favorite anime character.

>philosophy/psychology
From what I understand, in the INTP case, it's to perfect their understanding of how the world works by acquiring knowledge, but for INTJs, isn't philosophy used as a tool to figure out their own values and what is worth believing in?

>find what makes you happy
It's true that seeking happiness through relationships is counter-productive. A lot of robots should understand that if they're a mess without a gf they'd still be a mess if they were to acquire a gf. But it's a vicious circle that is hard to break from.
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>>37190078
ENFP boys are fine if they manage to find an INTJ/INFJ girl who thinks they're adorably sincere and sweet.
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Who's the philosopher of choice for the INFP?
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Someone explain to me why infp's are so sad all the time.
Are they just too pure for this world?
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>>37193854
Too bad most of people in this board are stupid by your definition. They're like crabs in a bucket - when one tries to escape the rest drags him away into the bucket.
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>>37193891
>Who's the philosopher of choice for the INFP?
Kierkegaard was INFP.
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>>37193902
I makes them reluctant to engage with people and more prone to insular hobbies, but NF makes them FEEL FOR REAL and compels them to want to connect with people but P stops them from being decisive enough to do so in any effective way meaning that they become feelsy baby people who want to be a part of the world but literally can't bring themselves to be.
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do INTPs not have feelings? I have a very hard time deciphering what i'm feeling like
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>>37193884
> for INTJs, isn't philosophy used as a tool to figure out their own values and what is worth believing in?

Yes.

>Some people on here have legitimate disorders that prevent them from connecting with other people, mostly due to poor self-esteem and avoidant behavior.

I'm pretty sure that low self-esteem is reversible, although difficult. Legitimate mental disorders are different; most of the people on this board don't have them.

Avoidant behavior can be fixed by pushing your comfort zone. Prudish people typically don't do well in social encounters. I used to be like that, but eventually I got to the point where I'm not afraid of any situation that involves social pressure.

>>37193902
Getting off of this board is a good idea for people want to improve their lives. I come here like twice a year, but there was a time when I spent 3-4 hours a day on this site.
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>>37193948
They do but INTP feelings are crushed by constant Ti rationalization and logic
So when you really feel you don't understand what the fuck is going on, your mind feels like a clusterfuck and you don't know how to react
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>be intj
>have degree in liberal arts
Where is your god now faggot
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>>37193948
They have feelings, they're just too autistic and disconnected from what's happening inside and around them to understand those feelings until they get smacked in the face with them. Because of this a lot of INTPs try to create the illusion that they are somehow without feeling and are 100% grounded in cold, efficient logic. These are typically the same INTPs who'll find themselves crying for no reason out of nowhere, falling in love with people who show them kindness and understanding and lashing out at others out of nowhere.

Essentially, INTPs probably have the least control over their emotions among the MBTI types.
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>>37193963
can I love?
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>>37193985
Probably
Though you'd have to love yourself first which is much more difficult
Hence why an unhealthy INTP's idea of the perfect gf tends to be somewhat dominant and caring but unrealistic
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>>37193948
>I have a very hard time deciphering what i'm feeling like
For the INTP themselves, their experiences with emotion in childhood can be a little scary. Their emotions are typically expressed as a sudden, in-the-moment way, and they can be very hard to pin down. They don't have a deep well of feelings inside that they're constantly attending to and processing (like Fi - internal Feeling types do). Some INTP have described deeply embarrassing moments where they burst into tears in their classroom and couldn't explain why. When everyone is staring at you and asking for the reasoning behind how you feel instead of giving you time to think through what's going on, it can lead to even more negative feelings in the moment.
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>Took the test three times over three years
>Even took one on a different site
>Always get ENTJ
It fits and all, Im called jew by everyone I know because I make money out of fucking anything. Only disatvantage is that I would need a career focused gf or someone who didnt just complete some shitty high school and then spent next 10 years just fucking every other guy. This is kinda hard considering Im from a third world country..
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>>37193961
>low self-esteem is reversible
In most cases yes, but depending on how low it is, it might be very hard.
>most of the people on this board don't have them
I think there's a sizeable amount of people here who have avoidant PD. As in the actual disorder, not the behavior.

>I used to be like that
Withdrawn? How did you come to the point where you can assert yourself comfortably?
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>>37193984
>find themselves crying for no reason out of nowhere, falling in love with people who show them kindness and understanding and lashing out at others out of nowhere.
Cried for no reason last night, I dont know if it was love but Ive fallen for girls that were kind to me
>>37194010
I need to find an understanding qt NOW
>>37194013
In my preteens I had a traumatic love experience and people used to ask me all the time. I used to crumble under the pressure maybe that haunts me today
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>>37194057
>As in the actual disorder
Unless it's diagnosed, it doesnt count.
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> usually get intj
>just moved to a new town for work, feel like an emotional wreck
>take test based on current feelings
>get isfj
Wat
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Are infp girls nice?
I think an infp girl would be really sweet.
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>>37194057
Schizoids and avoidants are relatively common on /r9k/. Who'd have thought?
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>>37194159
Good luck finding one, Im pretty sure they're all horribly shy
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>>37170754

I'm INFJ, and I have to agree with this. It's kinda scary, actually.
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>>37178490
>Sensors earns more than Intuitives

Are we just wasted potential or we just don't give a crap about money?
(Speaking as an N)
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>>37194360
Neither. More intuitives are neets.
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>>37194292
Seriously. INTJs are cute because they try to be all dark and intimidating but once they trust you they're all blushing and sincere and want you to stay by their sides. Meanwhile, INFJs seem like perfectly nice and considerate people on the surface but will have moments where they'll fucking slit someone's throat for a perceived slight against them or their cause and you just have to take a step back and wonder who this person really is beneath the sanctimony and the social justice.
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>>37194417
>but will have moments where they'll fucking slit someone's throat for a perceived slight against them or their cause and you just have to take a step back and wonder who this person really is beneath the sanctimony and the social justice.
Nah, INFJ's are not cutthroat. They're more like emotionally manipulative and passive aggressive.
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>>37194443
They're also cutthroat, though. I know an INFJ gay guy who preaches love and equality but god help you if you're a conservative or a perceived enemy of his cause because then his apparent spring of human empathy and inclusive rhetoric dries up into a bottomless dark pit of cold disdain to the point where I sincerely believe he would march them into concentration camps if he could.
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discord
.gg/w565UwY

MBTI discord
Come chat with us
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What is a giveaway that you might be intp instead of a lazy unmotivated intj?
(or vice versa)
I mean practical differences
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>>37194057
>How did you come to the point where you can assert yourself comfortably?
I told myself one day that I hated being the way that I was. Being afraid of people and what they thought of me was an absolute hell that I wanted to escape in any way that I could. Advice where people say shit like "socializing is a muscle" and to "do what makes you happy" have a lot more truth behind them than what they may seem like initially.

What I started doing was forcing myself to attend any kind of social event I could, even the ones that seemed like they would be null and uninteresting. I forced myself to talk to people that I ran into during classes and shit. That helped a lot, too.

It WAS really hard though. I remember that there was a time when I would start shaking and my voice would crack because someone asked me a yes or no question in front of a group. Looking back, I dont know why I was so afraid of that

I also had a lot of "tutorials" from friends I made over time about how to adopt certain qualities that I wanted. Some people I met were good at talking to girls and they basically taught me that the secret is to not care.

(Cont'd)
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>>37194498
>I mean practical differences
INTP's are much less likely to voice their opinions in disagreement, it's because they dont care that much about argument. However INTJ's can get really anal about discussions. If you're emotionally vocal (like throwing tantrums or yearning for acceptance among peers) you might be INTP.
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>>37194538
When someone I know says stupid shit I call them out on it but the intensity of the argument depends on the other person's personality, if I know they're sensitive and will start getting angry I try to be less assertive
When arguing with strangers or people I on't really know I tend to play it safe unless I know I won't be seeing them again
>throwing tantrums
I don't do that because I like to be in control of myself or at least appear as if I am
>yearning for acceptance among peers
Not really, I have zero friends, but I don't behave like an asshole
I'm incredibly disorganized and messy and have no drive to do things because they seem pointless and uninteresting though, both of those things seem heavily intp to me
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>>37194500

There was also a video that had a significant impact on me from a professional Starcraft player where he sadi that the secret to becoming a champion level player is to avoid "outcome dependency." Outcome dependency is basically dependence on an action having a certain outcome. It's a form of inhibition. A good example of this would be whether or not you ask a girl out.

An outcome dependent person wants her to say yes, and could not possibly accept the scenario that she says no. Instead of thinking about how or why each different possibility would occur, he wants her to say yes. If she says no, then he will take it as an attack on himself and confirmation that he is an inferior person for not succeeding. This isn't the case.

Another thing that you can do to help you is to find out what you want in life. I know that I only care about two things in life: my future and the people who care about me. I say "the people who care about me" and not "the people that I care about" is because I think that putting too much effort to gain the approval of people who do not care about you will do nothing but burn you out. I remember reading a quote by Aristotle that said "a friend to all is really a friend to none."

It's okay to reach out, but don't try too hard to please people who are unwilling to reciprocate your efforts. Call me a piece of shit if you want, but I think this rule should apply to family members too. I don't ever talk to my mom, and it's because I know that our lackluster relationship is a result of her own failures and not my own. She has never been a big part of my life, and it's because she never had her life together until recently. She doesn't seem to put much effort into reconnecting, so we will always have this relationship until she does. I will not waste my emotional energy to reconnect with someone who is apathetic towards me; I couldnt handle it.

(Cont'd)
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I want to make an ENFP/INFP general since we seem to be the most interested in trying to figure out ourselves and how to help ourselves improve

then I remember we're on /r9k/, the no-general-board

fml
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>>37194590
>both of those things seem heavily intp to me
I pretty much think that you're INTP because of
>if I know they're sensitive and will start getting angry I try to be less assertive
That's inferior Fe or maybe ENTP.
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>>37194590
Sound like an INTP to me. INTJs usually can come across as being more abrasive because they're more vocal about their feelings (Fi) but aren't willing to tolerate others like an F would.
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>>37194597

This seems very long and drawn out because I'm trying to explain my personal journey, and the thing is that I could write about 100 different posts on it. If there's something specific you want to know I can talk about it so that I don't end up writing a million different posts.
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>>37194610
>no-general-board
What do you think britfeel is?
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>>37194417
>>37194443

I try to be conscious of it, but I sometimes catch myself doing really manipulative shit. Generally, I'm perceived as a chill and calm guy, but I've had friends remark to me that they are waiting for the day I have an epic meltdown and murder someone over something. Last time I got in a fight, way back in when in school, I almost strangled the guy before a teacher intervened.
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>>37194620
>>37194626
Thanks.
Yeah I'm only very vocal with the people I know won't start whining because drama is incredibly annoying and serves no purpose.
I don't know if that's typical or anything but I can generally evaluate pretty accurately what kind of person I'm talking to and if I perceive them as being stupid or too close minded I'll avoid arguing, on the other hand if they're receptive or just not assertive enough to get angry at people they disagree with then I'll be much more willing to express myself freely
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>>37193900
yes
t. someone who's always fantasizing about some kind of paradise although I would probably be bored after a while in paradise

>>37193891
>>37193916
camus is INFP as well, I really enjoyed reading the stranger
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>>37194659
>Last time I got in a fight, way back in when in school, I almost strangled the guy before a teacher intervened
Fuck that inferior Se of yours. You might get in trouble if you'll let it go wild.
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>>37194637
I'm interested, because I'm trying to go at it from the same angle. Give me a minute to gather my thoughts.
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>>37194013
>For the INTP themselves, their experiences with emotion in childhood can be a little scary. Their emotions are typically expressed as a sudden, in-the-moment way, and they can be very hard to pin down.

Yeah, that siunds about right. I remember when I was around the age of 9 losing a game of badminton and going berserk on the kid I lost to, I threw him on the ground and beat the shit out of him, then stormed into the school and began bawling my eyes out and having no idea why I did either of those things. I felt totally normal beforehand, and I was a pretty calm kid overall, still don't know what that was about.
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>>37194610
come join the discord we need nfp's
w565UwY
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>>37194500
By forcing yourself to socialize, aren't you projecting a facade over your true personality though? And if so, doesn't that constantly make you uncomfortable?
You don't just go from being introverted (even excluding the shyness part, if you're a true introvert you'll just feel more comfortable alone) to being a social butterfly without pretending to be someone you're not.
Am I mistaken?
>the secret is not to care
What do you mean?
>>37194597
>avoid "outcome dependency"
I understand, but what mindset do you have to be in in order to avoid it successfully?
All our actions are based on desiring a certain outcome. Even more so for people who are insecure or step out of their comfort zone to perform said action.
>find out what you want in life
I personally only care about being mostly free from outside influence (eg. family) and being able to pursue whichever hobbies and interests I want. It doesn't seem complicated.
It's just that I struggle with social interaction, which is a necessary step in achieving financial independence.
>this rule should apply to family members
>I will not waste my emotional energy to reconnect with someone who is apathetic
You're right, but how does the rest of your family perceive this?
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>>37174864
I'm an ISTP girl too.
I only have one female friend and she uses me as an emotional tampon.
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>>37194768
>she uses me as an emotional tampon
Break up with her?
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So all fellow ISTPs, I'm wondering what makes us all ISTP, the branded sociopath tier. Aside from being naturally mechanically inclined, what makes us.. well us.

What mentally illnesses do you have aside from depression? I think my biggest factor for being ISTP is that I have BPD (borderline personality disorder), which kinda got me wondering what all the other ISTPs have that makes them like me.

Did you go through any childhood trauma? Please elaborate a little, how did you deal with it?
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>>37194637
>>37194713
I've been trying to expand my social life(and sex life cause let's be real here) from what it's been after years as a near-total recluse. And I totally get the whole muscle thing. But I'm an autist. So interacting with other people boils down to a "performance" in front of people, how well I can project a contrived personality and shell of normalcy.

And so I'll set these things up with people, then totally flake in anticipation of hanging out. I just can't see myself performing well enough. I see myself stalling out and having a quiet, anxious meltdown in front of everyone else. And it's gotten to the point where I apply avoidant behavior to situations wihtout even thinking about it, IE

>see a person I talk to semi-regularly
>they're talking to that I don't know anything about
>I can't handle the cognitive load of performing for both, when I don't know one
>I don't approach them

This can be with plans, or spontaneous situations like the one I mentioned above. I just can't handle the spontaneity and the grey area in situations like that. If I'm hanging out with people, and they bring friends I don't know, there have been times where I literally started freaking out. How am I supposed to get over this hurdle? It's like I can't let go of outcome dependency, because the possibility of it being an increasingly random outcome just freaks me the fuck out.
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>>37194768
I'm going through the same thing with my only IRL female friend.

She came over yesterday after I made that post and started crying about what her other friends said behind her back. Like??????
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>>37194939
>I'm wondering what makes us all ISTP, the branded sociopath tier
No no ISTP's are antisocial, ESTP's and ENTP are sociopaths.
>childhood trauma
I dont remember that one but apparently i started stuttering after something happened when i was 5 years old. And even if i'd get Chad body, i'd still be the same pathetic stutterer.
t. another ISTP.
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What's the best cognitive function test?
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>>37194647
an insult to the board, still, I'm considering to do a general now, maybe if I decide to put together all info collected in this thread
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>>37194998
>What's the best cognitive function test?
That would be
>http://www.keys2cognition.com/explore.htm
or
>http://keirsey.jung.test.typologycentral.com/
then you can do enneagram test
>https://www.eclecticenergies.com/enneagram/dotest.php
And see whenever you have the right typing. >>37179828
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>>37195049
Thank you.
regina
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>>37194763
>What do you mean?

Talk to women about whatever the fuck you feel like. I was talking to a girl earlier and my dad (I'm 21 in college and live at home) came in to talk to me. Instead of being embarrassed about what my dad had to say to me, I told her that I was going to leave her on speaker so she could hear me fucking with him:

"I'm going golfing. I know you're going to play games while I'm gone so at least do the dishes while I'm gone"
"how is my tendency to play a lot of games any different than you playing a lot of golf"
"at least i get exercise when i golf"
"but i exercise my hand-eye coordination when i play games"
"whatever"
"i bet i could out masturbate you with all of this wrist coordination practice i have"

He laughed and walked out. The girl I was talking to just found the whole conversation hilarious and then we went to the movies the next week. Most people would be embarrassed about having a girl hear what their parents had to say, but I wasn't. That made me different.

Believe it or not, PUA helps you socially. I only have some understanding of it though. Knowing about shit-testing is important.

>I understand, but what mindset do you have to be in in order to avoid it successfully?
Whatever it takes.

>It's just that I struggle with social interaction, which is a necessary step in achieving financial independence.

You want to improve that about yourself, don't you? This is a good start. The most important thing is to keep at it. Believe it or not, your efforts are going to be rewarded one day when you suddenly stop floundering in social situations. I mean it; one day, you'll have a massive epiphany and these things will suddenly begin to make sense to you. It's beautiful, really.

>You're right, but how does the rest of your family perceive this?

Some people in my family think I'm just an asshole. Others, however, understand where I'm coming from and even encourage it. The people in the latter category are the ones who matter.
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>>37194947
Stop flaking, gay boy. That's like trying to get a 6 pack and staying home when the time you planned to hit the gym rolls around. You're not actually getting anything accomplished.

The only way to handle spontaneous situations is to put yourself in more of them. If you're actually an INTJ, then think of this as a good way to build your Se.
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>>37194034
I need a career focused gf too but they're all in a relationship already.

Which country are you from fellow ENTJ?
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>>37195086
>Talk to women about whatever the fuck you feel like
Do you just talk to a girl like you'd talk to a friend who knows you well?
When I'm with a friend I know I can relax with I say stupid shit all the time and don't care about coming off as a nerd when I talk about my niche interests. But isn't that behavior generally off-putting thus counterproductive when you're with someone you don't really know?

>PUA helps you socially
Where did you learn about it?
>shit-testing
This is just a way for a woman to see how far she can go before you call her out, right? Too see if you're a doormat or not?
In such situations, are you supposed to call her out on it right away?

>You want to improve that about ourself, don't you?
Well, I want to stop being self-conscious. I'm fairly sure it stems from very poor self-esteem and confidence, so this is what I have to work on.
>one day, you'll have a massive epiphany
About not caring? I sure hope so.

>The people in the latter category are the ones who matter
True. Though this sometimes depends on your upbringing. Cultures where family is treated as being "above everything else" make it more difficult to select which people you want to interact with and which ones you want to cut out from your life.
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>>37194292
>>37194417
I have an INFJ sister and she can range from cute to tryhard if pissed off to scary if upset.

I like to imagine INFJs as these sweet caring people who with the slightest bit of anger or disappointment will turn into Hitler I shit you not.

I'm currently figuring out how to turn my sis into Hitler 2.0. She's already mentally unstable but I'm not sure what will cause her to go full RRRRRRE
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>>37195117
>East european slavic shithole
All good looking girls just graduate high school and then just go from one boyfriend to another. I dont have much to choose from... Anyway what is your future plan? Here is mine:
>Work part time jobs on weekends while studying
>Find a way to make capital so I can start my own company in the future
>Achieve this by going to university in the only thing I have talent for (languages)
>Work as a translator for few years and then start my company
I could probably just borrow the money but I made it a rule to NEVER borrow money for anything. Its just a spiral of that will maybe end once you turn 60-70
What do you think bro? The dream life would be to find a smart girl that could start the company with me, but then again, very unlikely
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>>37195197
You don't have to call anyone out on anything my guy. Girls do this type of shit without thinking, but this is how pick-up artists label this behavior. It's nice to have a name for these things so that you can work them out in your head easier. That's the only reason why I like PUA.

https://illimitablemen.com/2014/12/14/the-shit-test-encyclopedia/

Read this, it's a good start. PUA isn't that complicated. Picking up women is getting them to like/be interested in you. "Agree and amplify" is my favorite thing to do; people find it hilarious whenever I mock them for trying to make me look bad. People find it refreshing.

Talk to strangers just to entertain yourself. If you hit it off, then that's good. If you don't, then who cares? They're just randoms.

>Cultures where family is treated as being "above everything else" make it more difficult to select which people you want to interact with and which ones you want to cut out from your life.

Who gives a fuck about culture? Countries where tight family bonds and adherence to authority like China and Korea have high suicide rates for a reason; they are stress-inducing. Do you want to be loyal or happy?

Here is a good quote by Steve Jobs: "Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be trapped by dogma - which is living with the results of other people's thinking. Don't let the noise of other's opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary."

Steve Jobs himself has alienated himself from family members and even people he has known for years. It's in his biography, which I have read twice. He is a role model of mine because he is not afraid to put his own ideas forth. I'd recommend his biography to anyone. That man is someone to look up to.
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>enfp male
>19 year old virgin
>two girls are interested in having sex with me
>I don't know if I want to have sex because I want to be in love when it happens
>but muh dick
>also just want to get it over with at this point

Should I betray my values and go for it? I know most of the people on this board would kill to be in this situation. I know it seems like I'm being a pussy right now. Fuck it, I probably am being a pussy right now. I don't know guys. I could use some guidance.
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>>37195514
Also sorry for the blog post. Most of the anons in this thread seem to be very kind and want to help each other. I can't imagine making a thread like this on normal /r9k/ because it would immediately get shouted down. Also I suppose maybe my mbti type could give you guys a sense of what kind of person I am. Thanks anyway in advance.
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>>37195551
Do it if you want it. People who think your first time should be special are idealistic faggots. I lost mine to some girl in my bed while watching Zombieland. One girl told me she lost hers in a tunnel on a playground.
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>>37185694
>ISTP dad
>ESFJ mom
you lucky bastard that's like the best combination possible
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>>37195429

Good plan if you ask me. Mine is basically finish uni, get mad internships and GTFO off my family's home asap.

Nothing wrong with borrowing some money. Especially when it's something basic as a translating enterprise which are only a select few. But I get where you are coming from
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>>37195447
I skimmed through the link you posted, I'll take a more in-depth look later but from the looks of it the general rule of thumb seems to be "behave as if you don't care and treat her as if she isn't very important".
Are you sure that's a viable way of doing things when you don't necessarily look the part?
Body language also seems to matter a lot, but that's something that's more or less ingrained in your subconscious unless you're paying close attention to the way you're moving at all times, which makes you look like a huge autist.

>Talk to strangers
Do you do that all the time? Just striking conversations with random individuals?
>They're just randoms
Right, though being detached enough to act in accordance with that statement is quite hard.

>Do you want to be loyal or happy?
Well, I get the point. I guess I'm too attentive and worried about the way I'm perceived by others and fear coming off as an asshole if I push things too far.
Surprisingly my father is the complete opposite and does what he wants whenever he feels like it, and I've never seen anyone call him out on that. He pretty much lives by that quote you've posted.
I should probably try to behave the same way.
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>>37178193
>INTPs are extremely cold robots who are only guided by their unfathomable laziness
Fixed that for you. INTPs stay passive even when a simple, obvious action might considerably make their life better; they're physically unable to care about themselves, let alone act upon it. See
>>37186663
>Infact being an INTP is by definition the desire to never do anything in the physical/real world outside of the bare necessary to life a comfortable life.
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>>37195653
I mean sure, something like 2000-5000 euros arent a problem, as long as you use it as some extra so you can afford more stuff for your company. I never actually thought what I might be doing business in, but yeah translating enterprise isnt a bad idea at all. But then again I do have some ideas already about making a really special bar for young people (chill music, dark inside with some coloured lights, people could order one of these things that work like a cigarettes but whole group uses it and they smell really nice, whatever they are called). Doing business in things that young people may be interested in seems like the safest choice. But then again there is still a lot of time for that. Im only graduating high school this year after all
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>>37187092
>INTP
>don't plan anything
>nothing can fuck up my plans because there isn't even a plan to fuck up
>shit happens, get kicked out
>recover quickly, make new plans
I managed to stick to them for a whole year, but damn being forced to think like an INTJ is exhausting and stressful. I don't know how you guys do it your whole lives without going bananas. Hopefully I'll be done with this in a couple of years and be back to having a carefree and unplanned life.
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How many INTPs here are /fit/?

I tried that a few times but ultimately my laziness always overcame my desire for improvement. What do?
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>>37190185
>enfp
>rare in women

Literally get the fuck out of your room.
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>>37195740
Yeah it seems like too much for a company of that size. I like the hookah bar idea better. That one has more chance of succeeding than the translator if you ask me. Especially if you know where to go.

I'd say think about it while in your free time and take some biz related classes if you have them of course
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>>37195769
I'm not a fucking NEET brah

I legit never met an ENFP girl outside of my bros gf and maybe a few other encounters which I forgot about because I forget most stuff
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>>37190388
The guy who wrote this knows his cognitive functions, he could've developed more but what he said is precise enough already.
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>>37195447
Most Jewish post of the hour

> forget about values and principles goyim

> family and traditions aren't important

> who cares what's happening around you and to your community? Just forget about strong family structures and values goy!
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>>37191024
>>37191206
Didn't watch the show but I always got an ESTP vibe from him

>>37192277
>only time I get feelings is when I see a man getting fucked over by the court system and when an animal is abused.
Elaborate
give examples pls

>>37193607
>guess what type i am
TLDR
Guess mine now.
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>>37195879
Gates was simply trying to say that you should follow your vision (if you have any) and cut out any people that may stand in your way
Based /pol/ reminding everyone of the jewish boogeyman
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>>37193827
I seriously can't get over how much I love nature, physics, the universe and all that bullshit. This has to be autism, I mean just looking at clouds makes me forget everything and just focus on their forms shifting through the sky. Birds, cats, running water, a fire... everytime I leave the city I am mesmerized by the fucking scenery and don't want to go back home. I started going /out/, walking countless hours in fucking flip-flops and sleeping wherever in the mountain. I love swimming, I love trekking. Now I'll probably start climbing as well, these are the only moments when I feel alive. Rest of the time I'm just an empty shell.
w-w-was I born a hippie ? surely g-god wouldn't allow that
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>>37194823
She's my friend not a gf.. but I'm slowly not talking to her
>>37194823
My friend does the same exact thing. Like I'll just be talking to her about something normal and she will go "off topic! My life sucks and here's why!:("

Like I just don't see the point anymore to be friends
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>>37194939
Istp here. I also have borderline. I was also emotionally abused by one of my ex's for three years and they wouldn't allow me to have friends. Another person also cheated on me a lot.
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>>37195950
Literally just tell her the relationship doesnt benefit you in any way and you will cut contact unless she pulls herself together

t.ENTJ
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>>37170971

Pretty much any introvert is a robot.


we live in an extroverts world.
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>>37193948
Fe means they process feelings according to external rules/stimuli; most of the time it's culture, other people and moral systems. As opposed to Fi, which processes feelings in a very independent and self-referencing/recursive way.
INTPs are stuck like >>37193963 said and become better at dealing with feelings until later in life when they develop their lower Fe, or sooner if they're lucky enough to do it before that (like me :3) but it takes work, dedication and a lot of free time.

>>37193984
Nobody has control over emotions, what are you thinking ? Emotions are by nature uncontrollable.
INTPs, as well as other T types, just have more trouble understanding them and taking them into account in their daily lives and that leads to disharmony within themselves. There's nothing to control.
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>>37194360
search for "intuitive vs sensing" qualities
you will notice that intuitive qualities are "can't get shit done" whereas sensor qualities are "can get shit done"

being N P is truly a fate worse than death
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>>37196033
Shouldn't it be easier to understand your own emotions when you're in accordance with group harmony and stuff like moral systems, than when your emotions are completely independent of such things?
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>>37186663
>Infact being an INTP is by definition the desire to never do anything in the physical/real world outside of the bare necessary to live a comfortable life.

THIS MAN FUCKIN GETS IT
this perspective of utter laziness seems like enlightenment but it also makes it impossible to live a normal life
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>>37171328

>INFJ

>Not emotional

Ok?
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>>37186663
>>37196097
Isn't that just chronic depression?
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>>37196100
INFJs understand emotions better than anyone else and that's why they can be so detached from them
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>>37169532
There truly is no hope if you believe that your personality and outcome in life is determined on the basis of what is an over-glorified facebook personality test.
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>>37195763
Yeah so I'm kind of fit because I used to be into sports as a kid/teen but I'm no fitness junkie. However, each day I do 20 push ups and 60 of a particular kind of back-lift to strengthen my core muscles and to straighten my spine.

I know I can accomplish more than those numbers but I don't increase it yet, only when it becomes too easy. Been doing it for 3 weeks now and it feels good, the routine is ingrained in my daily subconscious routine. Skipping it feels like skipping brushing your teeth. It just aint good

So 1) set up an exercise routine
2) Start by doing one exercise you know you can handle.
3) Too easy? Add more things, or just amplify. 20 Pushups too easy? Do 25, or do sit ups.

4) Think about how sexy and bangable you will look in the not-so-distant future ;^)
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>>37195817
You're just not good at spotting them then. Trust me, there are many of them.

>>37196051
No, whether your emotions should follow your own intuition or be harmonized with the people around you depends on whether you have respectively Fi or Fe. Now your innate ability to understand and deal with those depends on the position of this function in the preferential order
Say you are ESFP, Fi is your auxiliary function so it won't give you much trouble understanding yourself and "being true to yourself" and all that crap, most of the time quite early in life. If you're an ENTJ, Fi is your lowest function and that will be harder. But in both these cases, your emotions should be focused more (not entirely) around yourself than the outside.
If you have Fe, it would be better imo to rely (mainly, not exclusively) on harmony, moral systems, etc. but the difficulty of the task won't be the sake if you're an ENFJ (Fe-dom) or INTP (Fe-inf). The most hated question INTPs are asked is "hey, are you feeling well ? how are you feeling exactly ?" that's like a division by 0 in their mind, that's because they have Fe and it's easier for them to access emotions through the outside (empathy, other people, even fictional characters...). For Fi users it's the opposite, it's harder for them to care about what groups or moral systems might value; they prefer to focus on emotions on an individual level ("what I'm feeling", or "what THIS PERSON feels"); for Fe users feelings and emotions don't exist if not between at least 2 people (social interaction, empathy, culture, etc). For example, Fi users are the kind of assholes that keep asking "hey, how are YOU feeling ?", they can only deal with emotions and feelings on a personal/individual level. How easily can one understand their emotion depends on whether his function is low or high, not on the nature of the function.
This is also true with Te and Ti (objective facts vs inner logic)
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>>37169532
>only going one week without showering or going outside
I am the king of INTPs, I have gone 2 months without showering, using deodorant, or wiping my ass, and an entire year without going outside once.

GET ON MY FUCKING LEVEL, PLEB INTPS
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>>37196240
>how are YOU feeling ?
So an Fi user would be able to answer that easily while an Fe user would struggle with the question?
How can you not know how you feel though? I understand not being able to explain why you feel a certain way, but everyone knows if they're feeling sad or happy or nostalgic or whatever
>Te and Ti (objective facts vs inner logic)
What's the difference?
Aren't INTPs the most logical type?
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>>37196141

Well since they rely on their feelings more than their thinking (hence the F in INFJ) I think they're a lot more emotional than INTJs.
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>>37196274
>an entire year without going outside once

Teach me master, how does one succeed in doing this?
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>>37196435
not from a jedi
orihbnadfa
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>>37190388
>Dude lmao its just astrology bullshit xDDD

This is what i call a description.
Now i need some time alone though
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>>37196283
>>37196240
I'm an INTP with an INTJ dad who really cares about me but i'm unable to answer his questions: "How are you feeling, has everything been alright lately?" He'll often ask. I can only explain how I'm thinking, I don't place any value on my personal sentiments, and so communicating with him is difficult but I really appreciate his initiave, anyway.

My ENFJ sister on the other hand will ask me how are things going, rather than how things are feeling, and shes very easy to communicate with for that reason. Fe-doms are surprisingly more logical, or well atleast easier to communicate with since they're Ti/Fe like myself. Fi/Te is something I'm unable to grasp.
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>>37196283
Hmm, even if I know how I'm feeling, how can I know if my feelings are justified or if I'm just reacting primitively to external stimuli?
>that's what feelings are you idiot
I know that, doesn't mean I have to just blurt them out like a savage sensor. They have to be filtered through logic first. I don't serve my emotions, they serve me *tips fedora*.

I'm trying to think of an example so bear with me. Say if I left my food unattended and came back to find it gone. My first reaction would be to get angry at whoever stole it. But then I would spot a cat running away with my food and my reaction would change to amusement. Did I know what emotion I felt? Sure. Was it the correct one?

I'm thinking about my emotions too logically, I know, but we feel emotions because they are telling us we should do something (happy? continue activity. angry? punch the source) and I want to make sure I'm reacting appropriately.

These replies always turn out longer than I want them to.
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>>37195763
go biking in the forest. Works for me
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>>37196240
That might be it. But it's almost indecipherable to type someone else by 'spotting'. Imo you have to know them first.

Also, how do I get along better with strong Fe users? My family are two Fe auxiliaries and one tertiary so it's a pain in the ass to try to communicate with Fe because they both hate Te and Fi
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>>37195943
>sleeping in the mountain
sounds good. kinda scary though
I go to a little forest near my house. I dont have a car I dont get a lot of chances to go to the mountains, that are not even that far away. I love to swim in rivers and lakes even though its cold. I get legit disappointed when I see grass die out and trees being cut lmao.
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>>37171277
maybe you lost your purpose. perhaps you've thought on your purpose for too much that it became meaningless, sort of like when you repeat a word over and over again and it loses meaning.
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Rate this meme I found on Google.
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>>37195943
I think all INTPs share an immense appreciation for the beauty of the universe. When I read philosophy I occasionally find an idea I believe to be so genius my reaction is almost orgasmic, my eyes light up, I immediately get out of my chair and start laughing involuntarily at just how brilliant of an idea it is, and then I pace my room considering the implications of what I've just read. I would describe it as a better feeling than sex. I think this is what truly defines the INTP, that, more so than any of the other types, we love truth itself, because we're in constant awe at the brilliance and complexity of this existence.

Behold, mortals, the magnitude of the INTP's autism.
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>>37169532
I sometimes score ISTJ when I have my shit together and I'm productive. My natural state is 50% 50% between ISTP and INTP. Just fucking end me now.
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>>37197771
MY MAN
exactly in the same situation. being everything about NP is so moronic. You have to turn into an SJ to get shit done. being able to channel SJ qualities is the reason I'm not an unemployed piece of garbage
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What other types are suicide tier

t. INFP
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>>37197842
definitely infp and intp make the shortlist, and no other
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>>37197694
Anon... does the premise that we could someday transcend mortality and become pic related bring a tear to your eye?

Also are robotic AI extremely beautiful to you?
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>>37197878
forgot to apply pic, this is pic related
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>>37197694
>I think all INTPs share an immense appreciation for the beauty of the universe.
i know i du
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>>37197811
Unfortunately I can't keep up with channeling the SJ qualities enough so I'm an unemployed piece of garbage. I also know for sure I'll never work for someone else so I'll probably just end up killing myself or finding a way to some unorthodox way of making money. Probably the first option.
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>>37197877
ISTP is even worse than INTP when it comes to suicide tier
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>>37197694
>I immediately get out of my chair and start laughing involuntarily at just how brilliant of an idea it is, and then I pace my room considering the implications of what I've just read
This made me lel. I had this happen recently.
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>>37195514
INTP in the same shoes.

Nah don't do it man. That's something you can't get back and it's a lot better if you have sex without a condom on with someone you care about. Even if it's a bitch waiting.
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>>37172070
He was right though and you should aspire to be right.
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>>37169532
>Always INTJ
>Keep scoring INTP now I'm not an edgy teen anymore
>recent ex-gf always scored INFP
Shit's surprisingly accurate, she was a bit of a literal baby and felt depressed for days after Bowie died. I guess most women are literal babies though.
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>>37198025
I'm an INTJ and nothing like these cringy autists.
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>>37197402
That Te - Fi brash is too real
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>>37169532
>Only one week without showering or going outside

Stopped reading there. You can just tell some flippy shithead CalArts normie liberal made this.
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I'm INTP and don't have a real fondness for normies but could you imagine if there was a world filled with us?

I mean the guys who literally just think about the most efficient way to do something and then never fucking do it. Not to mention the autism. Plus we are cold as fuck.

So normies are OK in my book. I just need to keep up the lie until I ascend into normiehood.

>had the courage to ask a girl out but she had a boyfriend
>going to enroll in college soon
>gonna get a job once I work out the details at Lowe's
>also I'm a strong 8/10
>can say interesting things to people so people wanna hang out with me assuming they like radical honesty
>also pretty young (19)

I'm doing ok bois for wanting to throw myself in front of a moving bus.
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Can someone explain in retard terms what the difference is between Ti and Ni as well as Te and Ne?

These functions seem like the most vague and hard to grasp.
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>take a ton of type test on various sites
>almost always score INTP
>score ISTP a couple times
What do I mean by this?
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>>37198438
this. My life isn't even that bad (except being a KHV) but I still wanna die
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>>37198508
Ni and Ne are both intuition and they work in the realm of hypothetical situations.
The difference is Ne is inductive and Ni is deductive. Basically Ne searches for many different possibilities and Ni searches for one that is most likely true.

Te is usually about efficiency and Ti is about consistency.
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do you guys like enfps

t.enfp
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>>37198508
Ti relies on the higher conscious brain to slowly and progressively think about things in logical ways with a narrowly focused concentration on one thing at a time. Ni is a function of the unconscious mind that builds up a logical framework through experience with reference to many ideas at a rapid pace but with much less focus. The ideas come to the logical mind as intuition, it's like being able to use the unconscious mind to rapidly link together information from many different sources without the slow process of logical conscious thought expressed clearly in words. Te and Ne are basically the same process but instead of sitting back and digesting old information and trying to make it fit into their framework of how the world works, they go out and react with stimuli and use that as a base to apply their knowledge and affect change in their lives.
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>>37197878
>>37197891
Yes to both, in fact I believe transhumanism is a necessary step in our species continued survival, and it's a step that needs to be taken soon. Though it has as much potential to destroy us as it does to save us.
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>>37198438
I'm pretty much you except I have a 2/10 face. What's it like being a reasonably attractive INTP?
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who here appears dumb to other people?
I am an INTP so I tend to daydream. When teachers and other people talked to me sometimes I looked retarded because suddenly I had the pressure to respond to something I had no idea of
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>>37198873
Love me.

>t.INFJ
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>>37197402
legitimately laughed out loud
dsgfagafdas
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>>37198961
Pretty much what you would expect.

If I wanted to get laid all I would have to do is pretend I'm Ryan Gosling from The Driver and just having the balls to do it and I would be in there.

I'm still a virgin though so I wanna make it meaningful cause it will probably suck otherwise. Normies hype everything up.


I do take it for granted desu. It's literally been the reason why I've been able to get away with being an autist, besides the fact of hiding really well. There are studies that show people think attractive people are smarter kinder and funnier just because they are attractive. Idiots.
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>>37199086
I didn't write desu wtf man???
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>>37199106
to be honest becomes desu desu
might have been not gonna lie ngl
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>>37199106
It becomes muscle memory desu
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>>37199151
is it cause normies use it all the time?
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>>37199159
No John. You are the normies.
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>>37199061

ok



jgsfgs
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>>37199295
Thanks, that's a high-quality love.
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>>37181074
You realise I posted it ironically, right?

Read the rest of the post (and the filename). I chose that image as an example of the stupid meme-tier shit that is posted here and how it has no empirical relevance whatsoever.
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>>37177147
You are displaying very clingy behaviour by continually responding to posts to defend yourself because you care about some anonymous opinion on a laotian claymation fansite
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>>37199350

np anon its what i do

<3
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>>37199372
wow, amazing.

YOU MUST BE AN INTJ THEN!!!
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>>37177147
I'm pretty sure I know who you are, actually. Not going to say, though.

I'm going to leave it - because you probably already have someone in your head that you know that you're imagining to be me.

Would be funny if I hear about this post later.
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>>37199061
I can't pick between the allure of breaking through an INTJ's cold exterior to their warm and fuzzy feelings inside and the weirdly arousing concept of having a warm and affectionate INFJ who will turn into Hitler if someone hurts me.
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>>37199771
I'm not sure how I feel about the cuddly, emotive stuff, desu. I'd say I'm pretty warm and open with people, but I end up reminding myself how Machiavellian I become with people, and treat people like means to an end. I have myself convinced I'm a nice guy, I never genuinely hurt people, but I can't shake the feeling that I don't have a real face.

Befriending people is like a long-term investment. I'd be murderous if someone hurt them, but I treat them as more of a commodity than a separate entity.

tl;dr - go for INTJ, nigg

don't mind me having a self-reflective crisis over here
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>>37196141

I'm INFJ, and detached from emotion is just like how I feel. It's like I'm "seeing" emotions through a fog, or feeling them with thick gloves on. I see other people who seem like they are at the complete mercy of the emotions, and I just wonder at how unrestrained they are. I don't ever get really sad, really angry, or really happy about anything. I can count the number of times I have gotten legit angry on one hand, likewise with sadness and happiness.
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>>37174661
>assertive
GET OUT NORMIE
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>>37200020

At the same time, it's these unrestrained emotions that make other people so easy to read often.
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>>37199467
No I'm a gemini actually

:^)
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why does everybody love ENFJs?
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>>37200138
Extremely charismatic, and because they are extroverts, they can keep up their social energy for longer than INFJs. Fe and Ni, dude.
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>>37200187
can an INTP become one ;__;
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>>37198438
>going to enroll in college soon
>gonna get a job once I work out the details at Lowe's

You can't believe an INTP will do literally anything until they're actually doing it. They always just end up sitting around thinking about how best to do it, figure it out, then keep thinking about doing it/how to improve it, while never actually doing it.

>t. INTP
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>>37200245
No, but you can pretend to be one
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>>37175015

I don't get the differences between the top row types.
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>>37200245
You could feasibly pretend to be an ENTP. An introvert can still extrovert, they'll just burn out much faster.

Feels good to be an INFJ with high social energy.
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>>37193543
I'm a developing anarchist intj. I've been a left centrist type because up until now I haven't cared enough to learn about political theory much less particulars of the US's system beyond what I was taught in public school (everything structure related was decent the rest was garbage).
I've been reading up on the ideas of property rights, natural rights, and other philosophies that relate the self to society and codify that relationship and I can tell I'm somewhere in the anarchic umbrella. I like Egoism but I think it's too ruthless and uncaring and doesn't scale well to large populations (so you have asshats like illegalists). So my search continues but I think that some form of individualist anarchy will be where I find myself.
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>>37200297
>tfw absolutely no social energy
How do you do it? I weary so quickly when hanging out with people.
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>>37200267
Nobody cared about me... Until I put on the mask
>>37200297
burn out? Do you mean lashing out after pretending too much?
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I'd say I'm ISTP because the test assumes I'm extroverted just because I have no trouble in social situations.
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>>37200345
>Do you mean lashing out after pretending too much?
You just get tired of being around other people. You just want to be alone for a while.
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>>37200316
Find some conversational niche I can enjoy. I'm obnoxiously sarcastic, and crack jokes whenever it feels natural. Mildly annoying people is fun. The entertainment value from all that keep me going longer.

Of course, it helps if you actually want to talk to the people you're conversing with.
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>>37200314
After looking into pretty much all political ideologies that exist I've come to the conclusion that adopting a radical stance is useless due to its inapplicability in the real world. Furthermore, there's no way to create a perfect system or even a nearly perfect one as long as society continues to operate under its current rules.

So I went from fascism to anarchism to various other movements and now I'm just a right-leaning centrist.
Same for philosophy. I got tempted by various movements but I'm ultimately a philosophical skeptic.

Maybe I'm just weak.
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>>37200373
hmmm but normies take that as a personal offence
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>>37200375
I do this too, but I can only do it when I feel comfortable which is rare. It's fine when I am with up to three other people. How do I not feel so awkward?
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>>37200345
>burn out? Do you mean lashing out after pretending too much?
t. Extrovert

Mildly - it can be just plain tired of people, lack of other shit to add to a conversation. Or, more severely - pissy and abrasive with people for taking up your time, aggressive, disinterested.

Essentially, just tired of socialising.
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>>37200410
Not really, you just play it off like you got some other shit to do or other places to be. You don't straight up tell them you are tired of them.
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>>37200414
You're going to hate me for saying this, but honestly - practice.

That, and the realisation that unless you say or do something really stupid, no one cares enough to recollect it longer than a day.

Also, if you come off as more confident, and assume people already like you, people will end up liking you more. Be more protected, reserved and assume you have to earn people - and you will.

It's all easier said than done, but try anyway.
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>>37169532
INTJ-A here too. I mean hey, atleast we are in the ubermensch analyst group.
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>>37200467
>You're going to hate me for saying this, but honestly - practice.
Not really, I kinda know this already. Just feel unmotivated. Thanks for the advice, it's very helpful.
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>>37200417
>>37200439
In my experience that pretty much ends relatioships. Ive always been of a tight-knit group of two friends, and as much as I hated I've abandoned my earlier two best friends since I "replaced" them and no longer have interest in them.
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>doesn't put "MBTI" in the OP
>doesn't even put "16personalites" or "similarminds" in the OP
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>>37200555
You don't tell them you've got other shit to do and then not contact them for a week. You tell them you've got other shit to do, go home and maybe hang out again in a couple of days. I am lonely bastard but it's not that hard.
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>>37200633
I try to force myself sometimes but never get to it. Guess I have to work on that
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>mfw when you autists believe that this is actually better than a horoscope/astrology
>inb4 back up by science
>inb4 credible

This shit is a fucking meme. Literally just group people up, ask people questions, categorize based on similar traits/behaviors, use anecdotal evidence to come to a conclusion, and finally make these meme generalizations which you monkeys believe.
>mfw you guys are as bad as soccer moms

topkek
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This thread is past bump limit.
>>37200732
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>>37200398
That's why I find individualist anarchy to be the best fit so far. I want a perfect society but have realized that revolution would be required to enact any of these desires for social change. I will never be able to enact a revolution, yet I still desire a change. Individualist anarchy says to this "don't wait for a violent revolution to change, enact your changes now in your social relationships and see the results" obviously you can't enact things like fiscal policies or collectivist worker unions (or whatever your large scale ideas are) but the philosophy on which your ideal society is built has applications to the individual that you can enact now. For example, I have begun consciously practicing the non-aggression principle and the idea of non-coercive free association as much as I can. Realizing that I don't need to play by the contemporary social rules and instead choosing to only talk with those who mutually find value in our exchange is a much happier way for me to live. Of course I'm only at the beginnings of my studies, but being able to turn my te research habits into ni strategies that validate my fi feelings in external interactions at this early stage has already shown me that this is a productive line of thought.
Sorry for the wall of text
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>>37200747
That's pretty interesting. So instead of focusing on a form of government, you're just integrating politics into your personal philosophy and acting according to it, while disregarding large-scale political ideologies altogether?
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>>37200780
Let's move to the new thread, cause this discussion still interests me. I'll have my reply there.
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>>37178441
I feel like we INTJs are just jews, looking for complicated ways to just fuck other people over for our own gain.
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>>37200861
Just keep telling yourself that, you're a great addition to the cause.
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