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>traditional women gender roles nowadays don't exist

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>traditional women gender roles nowadays don't exist any more
>they're no longer carers and mothers that save themselves for their husband and exist only for their families
>instead they're all degenerate whores and want no children and probably not even a monogamous relationship
>traditional male gender roles still exist though and are pretty much expected of every woman
>still have to be the strong and able provider, have to be outgoing and extroverted and still make the first step, of course also have have a really good job etc.
Why the fuck even bother? There isn't even a reward anymore. There is literally no reason to go through all that self improvement bullshit and then also going through that process of wooing some disgusting whore if she's fucked 30 men without any effort before and will certainly just jump onto the next one when you don't tick off all that boxes anymore.
Feminism was the biggest mistake of the last century, it has done nothing but completely fuck the men over and create a huge unfairness between the genders.
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>>37059511
Actually it's completely fair that the more intelligent of the genders would be the one who has all the sexual, romantic, and reproductive power.
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>>37059511
If it makes you feel better I don't care how much you make or if you work so long as you're a decent human being.
In return i only ask you accept the fact i like sex, as does literally everyone, and that i hate children they're annoying.
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That's how western society works. Look at /pol/, they are incredibly autistic on this issue. They side with feminists in agreeing that only men should be held to our gender roles while women can do whatever they want. /pol/ is even more extreme than the feminists on this issue. Just remember, traditionalists and "red pilled" faggots are not your friends.
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>>37059603
Yea I don't always like the feminists but I prefer them to the side of /pol/tards.
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>>37059579
You're why good didn't work to us anymore
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>>37059603
>>37059639
Speaking from your asses.
/pol/ is anti-feminist they want a nuclear family.
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>>37059511
reminder media in general amplifies the reality tenfolds. Yes, the type of women who completely avoid the gender roles are prominent but there are still many more "normal" girls.

Dont let media warp your mind too much
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>>37059640
I can't help that i'm too tiny for safe pregnancies, that children level shrill voices anger me, that i was raised to be financially successful, and treated and raised like a boy with 5 other brothers cause my sisters annoyed me.
Also which god?
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>>37059564
>Women
>MORE INTELLIGENT
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
Yeah you fucking wish. Women were always inferior both intellectually and physically. The only thing you are good at is reproduction and even that they can't do anymore without ruining the kid's life.
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>>37059673

/pol/ wants a nuclear family, but they specifically have an autistic hatred against young men and they don't even dare to suggest women should be held to any traditional roles. They are even worse than the feminists in how they pressure young men.
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>>37059818
>make around $200k a year
>jobs only requirement is you be intelligent enough for a doctorate in mathematics
>out of the 5 people in my state that do this job all but 1 are female
>the one male makes maybe $50k a year because he's absolutely shit at his job, namely basic variable algorithms
>his fallback is literally realty in fucking newyork city and sees no holes in this idea
No.
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>>37059511

It's weird how only the richest of the rich still uphold traditional values.
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>>37060021

>5

Wow, calm down. That sample size is a bit too large don't you think?
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>>37059511
Except women are normal everywhere but the West
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>>37059603
Are you fucking retarded. That is not how western society used to work. The reason why western societies are degenerate is because of cultural marxism.
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just become a girl anon, you'll get laid way more
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>>37060646

Are you retarded? /pol/ wants a return to traditional ways of doing things, but only enforces those rules on men, not women. Feminists are their allies in that endeavor.
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>>37059930
What the hell are you talking about?
/pol/ wishes for the traditional family unit with a quiet child rearing homemaker mother who has never taken a ride on the cock carousel, or even farther than this in a lot of cases. Have you ever even been to /pol/?
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>>37060692
Have you ever been on /pol/. You do realize that they dislike non virgins who've whored around and sucked nigger dicks. They favour traditional girls more than anything else. Do you not see how they shit on feminists?
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>>37060692
This is easily one of the most misinformed posts I've ever seen. I'm tempted to even call you a shill because this seems like a tactic to turn people away. /pol/ adheres to almost all traditional values universally. It's pretty nuch the only thing they all can agree on. They even have women hate threads too. You're either blind or doing this intentionally.
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It's sad, really. I think being a homemaker is the true destiny of a woman...
My sister and mother are quite liberal, my mom used to be a housewife before this-and-that and says it was too troublesome in comparison, and my sister claims to want to be independent, but I see that roastie on her Tinder app all the time.

I don't know why other women can't see the joy in making a lovely home with lovely meals for your lovely family...
Even if it's tedious, keeping your family happy and maintained is an honorable duty I'd love to have.
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>>37060021
are you one of the girl four?
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>>37060809
I am "one of the four girls*".
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>>37060872
somehow doubt this 200k a year starting with a phd in math spinoff
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>>37060886
Its by clients usually.
The one guy has a reputation for fucking up so he gets jackshit whereas i land nice contracts all the damn time.
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>>37060923
somehow doubt that a woman with a phd in math would be browsing /r9k/ or doing contract work
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>>37060021
>>37060872

>PhD in Math
>Uses a sample size of 5
>Uses anecdotal evidence

I find this hard to believe
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>>37060923
Are you Asian?

fff tt ttr
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>>37060767

I go on /pol/ every day. /pol/ wants men to adhere to their traditional roles while women can do whatever they want.

>>37060783

Go ahead and call me a shill if that's your way of deflecting criticism, sure. I've asked /pol/ about this, I get absolutely unbelievable spergfests directed at me where they start talking about young men and "man up" and all that, then I ask them if they think women should also be held to their traditional gender roles, then I get called a virgin and they dodge the question. If /pol/ doesn't want to be accused of such things then maybe /pol/ shouldn't do those things.
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>>37060992
Maybe.
>>37060957
True enough i suppose.
>>37060938
Literally chose my current job to avoid seeing people. All others had office work as a requirement whereas this one has me working from home 9 times out of 10 and i only head in for various meetings or required out of state shit my company sends me on where i usually work out of a hotel. I could be shitposting on 4chan and working, which i am, and it wouldn't matter or bother anyone. If it makes you feel better i have severe societal disenfranchisement, social anxiety, lock myself in my room all day playing games all day when i'm not typing up shit to the point of not eating most days, and genuinely hate most other women my age for being vapid cunts. Most math majors also seem to have some sort of 'tism, could be a requirement.
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>>37059603
Have you read any threads about dating or women on /pol/ lately? Nearly all of them are as equally as bitter and jaded with women as this place is. Hell, I even saw a really compelling piece posted on there on why women shouldn't be allowed to vote or shouldn't be in the workforce.
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>>37061259

I only see a few posters saying we should remove women's rights and they get piled on, I've tested it out, the same happened to me. I go on /pol/ every day.
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>>37059603
Roastie getting toastie, I suspect. It's certainly not okay to share your dirty holes with every Joe, Tom, and Peter in town.
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Take the Islam pill

Shaming culture prevents chaddery and gives out waifus, its the only robot saving grace since converts are somewhat special
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>>37059564
It is indeed. Op is an idiot.
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>>37061108
you read these anons replies
>>37061259
>>37061298
>>37061327
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>>37061108
You're a liar. Like, you're just lying. Anyone can go to /pol/ right now and see that you're a liar. I have never seen anyone on /pol/ try to claim women don't need an extreme overhaul unless they were either baiting or playig devil's advocate for discussions sake.
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>>37061545

I'm not lying. I've tested out what you've claimed before and got back very bitter replies that might as well have come from feminist blogs. /pol/ is extremely bitter and jaded towards modern young men, you're taking the sector that criticizes women brutally as comprising all of /pol/, but they don't. A typical MGTOW thread will get 300+ posts regurgitating talking points of "man up" and "women are suffering because they can't find no man" so on and so forth.
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>>37061773
>MGTOW threads
>Occuring often
No. MGTOW doesn't even claim that shit anyways. They think modern women are whore, which is why they're "going their own way." /pol/ hates women just as much as /r9k/
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>>37061773
You utter fucking moron. Mgtow are hated on /pol/ because they FUCKING GIVE UP AND LITERALLY REFUSE TO BREED thus playing into the kike plans of white genocide.
What /pol/ wants is for you to find a traditional wife, or fucking redpill one for yourself and make a SHITTON OF WHITE BABIES with her so your race can continue to exist.
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>>37059511
fuck that women are hypocrites if they don't keep their legs close I am not putting ring on it.
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>>37061184
I'm a current undergrad in mathematics. What did you do your PhD on?
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>go to most asian countries
>women still have traditional values

>go to most south american countries
>women still have traditional values

>go to most african countries
>women still have traditional values

>go to most middle eastern countries
>women still have traditional values

>go to rural parts of america
>women still have traditional values

>move to a big american country
>see a couple of green haired girls
>BAWWWWW BAWWWW REAL WOMEN DON'T EXIST ANYMORE BAWW LOOK AT THE DEGENERACY I WANT ALL WOMEN TO BE LIKE I WANT THEM TO BE NOW BAWWWW BAWWWW I WANT THE 50'S TO BE BACK


So this is what happens when sheltered manchildren browse /pol/ way too much and don't travel or leave their basement
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>>37061893
How so? If you're asking what my thesis was that ain't happening thats a straight shot to my identity.
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>>37061773
>women are suffering
>by suffocation via chads cock
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>>37061954
Broad strokes would be fine. I'm taking an interest because I'm planning to do my honours research in 2019
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>>37059511
And if they do have babies they are merely stupid bestial don't-need-no-mans and selfishly hoard their brood spawn for narcissistic validation.
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>>37062028
Economics. It might not be your major but god damn it can get crazy and damn does it look good to literally anyone hiring.
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>>37061838

We have MGTOW threads every hour on /pol/.

>>37061889

Calm down. My point was that in MGTOW threads, those are perfect examples of what I'm talking about. /pol/ spergs out about modern men and then a bunch of posters come in as if they came from feminist blogs, and if you mention taking away women's rights as a solution, you get bombarded with "HURR DURR MANCHILD VIRGIN JUST MAN UP" replies./pol/ believes in traditionalism but they only want to enforce it on men.

>>37061986

I'm not sure how women are suffering anyway, nobody can ever explain that for me.
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>>37062112
Oh. Or basic high level shit. Your take/crack at an Unsolvable Problem as an example assuming you can do something different than whats been tried.
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>>37062148
>/pol/ believes in traditionalism but they only want to enforce it on men.
But that's blatantly fucking wrong you dipshit. /pol/ wants a total return to nuclear family where women are first and foremost homemakers and child raisers, some even go as far as not wanting women to have the right to vote or work. They see feminism as a jewish /plot/ to subvert western women and turn them against men.
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>>37062228

It isn't wrong, I've asked them about this over and over and tested it by advocating the removal of women's rights, and they don't like it. What is your explanation for that? The MGTOW thing is just a very good example of when this stuff comes out at full speed.
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>>37062385
Given that /pol/ is my main board and that I have never seen the shit you describe barring obvious trolls, my explanation is that you are full of shit.
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>>37062446

/pol/ is my main board too. Go into any MGTOW thread or even threads about "childish men" or "men opting out" and you'll see what I mean. Do you think both men and women should be held to their traditional gender roles, and that we should remove women's rights?
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>>37062725
Yes, I do, because I am basically a national socialist.
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>>37062733

So am I, I just don't swear by /pol/ and I don't think /pol/ is infallible. There are plenty of other good places online to find information too. I really dislike the cult of upholding /pol/ at all costs.
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>>37062782
I think that the hate of mgtow in /pol/ is mostly just due to them disliking the idea of giving up instead of fighting against (((them)))
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>>37062845

MGTOW is just a specific example that is convenient for me here, you'll see in those threads or threads about men opting out that the shaming tactics just swarm the fucking thread(s). I know SRS raided /pol/ years ago, maybe they still do it, but even if it is shills and trolls, /pol/ should stand up to them rather than just running away.
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>>37059818
>Women were always inferior both intellectually and physically
>always
I agree that women are generally weaker that men physically, but i can't agree on the intelligence part.

Women don't have that much variation in intellect among themselves and they tend to stay on the average. On the other hand, men vary more greatly, having some of the dumbest and brightest people in their gender. See the image i posted.

>only thing you are good at is reproduction and even that they can't do anymore without ruining the kid's life.

The kid is fucked from the start, cut them some slack. Proof of that is free-range parenting where the parents intervene as little as possible in the kid's upbringing, so the kid learns whatever he happens to learn. This leads to poor skills in almost all facets of life, more so if the kid happens to lose the genetic lottery.

Also women are useful in other things as well, mainly in things that involve care taking. Women used to take care of elders for example, and look at the nurses in hospitals. You have to admit that there are some professions that women are naturally superior at, but those are not construction and engineering for sure.
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>this thread

What do you guys base your world view on?
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>>37063689
for got the img
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>>37063747
My world view is based on the fact that we are all animals so straying too far far from our natural paths has the potential to tear us apart. Balance is key and for many, that balance can come from being a part of a traditional healthy family. Most people are normies after all, so straying from their balance point may lead to their mental demise and the slow rupture of society.
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>>37063826
We can either lose our natural needs and urges, but replacing them with more negative and stronger ones is not wize. Trading our natural desire to have children an form meaningful and faithful relationships to greed and lust and indulging more in them.
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>>37060021
>out of the 5 people in my state that do this job all but 1 are female

You thanks to Affirmative Action
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>>37064759
Thanks to you have to have a decent mind for numbers and the ability to visualize them accurately on the spot.
I can't help its prohibitively complicated and not everyones up to that task.
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>>37059579
Fuck off dumb roastie
oregigooo
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>>37065590
But i have an innie....
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Where do infertile women fall on this? Should __I_ just commit suicide?
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