Why do you think anyone would want to put up with a male virgin

>>36791562
>This OP post
Stop baiting.

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>>36791577

I'm trying to make a point. The fact that a naked lady counts as bait for you shows how inexperienced you are. It should only be bait for young boys, and here you are, a grown man, unable to control himself.

>>36791562
It's the girls fault not mine to be honest.

>>36791621
>unable to control himself
As a 24 khv, i dare to say that i control my impulses pretty well.

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>>36791562
>>36791621
nobody cares tbqhwu

>>36791633
>It's the girls fault not mine to be honest.

You just paraphrased every other post on /r9k/. kek

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College is the true point of no return. Plenty of HS kids have self-esteem issues, religious guilt, etc still holding them back. But if you can't lose your virginity when you're surrounded by horny 18-22 years away from their parents for the first time, it's probably hopeless for you.

>>36791562

I have no idea. I guess it depends on the girl more than anything. I suppose contrary to what men desire, women find guys with a lot of sexual and relationship experience attractive, because they generally find attraction in status more than anything. A man with a lot of women must be worth it, since all the women in his past, present, and future have desired him.

Speaking purely sexually, I'd imagine it being quite irrelevant. In the end, we're hard-wired for sex, and while some people indeed suck at it, most learn the basic tricks of the trade from the act itself, and from porn, I guess, to a far lesser extent.

I actually don't know. It's an interesting question.

T. 22/M/V

>>36791698
>because they generally find attraction in status more than anything
It's not about status but women like what other women like. To be invisible to women doesnt mean that you're really ugly or sperg but no women find you attractive enough to engage in sexual relationship.

>>36791698
I lost my v-card at twenty-two. You can still turn this ship around, mate.

I'm really insecure. I like taking guys virginity because they will never forget me.

>>36791621
>>36791562
what makes you think we arent aware

>>36791729
>You can still turn this ship around, mate.
Not if you're graduated uni/college. It's over after that.

>>36791562
I could've gotten someone to accept me long time ago but I'm stickler and am really picky

>>36791712

Yeah, that's a quaint way of putting it. Tell me, d'you think the situation changes for men who finally score their first relationship or sexual encounter? Meaning, do the "floodgates" of potential partners open once you, in essence, "become visible" - or is this just a meme?

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>>36791562
>tfw get influenced really easily by statements like this post.

i hate myself

>>36791781
Not him but I'd say it depends on a couple of different things. Once I became more social and got laid, things really changed for me. I also finally got better at reading obvious signs etc. Pulling girls isn't hard anymore.

>>36791781
I can tell you for sure that when you find gf you become much more "visible" in the eyes of girls. When it comes to first sexual encounter it depends - some people need only little push to become confident with girls while others always remain dependent on women initiation.

>>36791729

Thanks for the vote of confidence, mate. I'm feeling pretty good about myself in a lot of ways, feels like the ship is indeed slowly turning. In a lot of ways, virginity is my only gripe, but it's fixable, if not guarenteed.

I reaolved at 19 that if I made it to 24 I'd just sweep this shit under the proverbial rug with a prostitute. Still got a few years, I'm not stressed. But thanks anyway!

>>36791808
>>36791822

I figured something akin to this since it makes sense. It's not like it really means anything in the long run, but it seems like the gateway to sex and (if you want it) relationships is to just get over the hurdles of the "first" one. After that, you're more desireable and that gives you far more leverage in encounters, as does it do wonders for confidence and self-worth. Then the path becomes just easier and easier.

>>36791562
This isn't about being able to fuck women. Its about making it to the other side and becoming a respected member of society. When I am in the comfort of my own home, I feel alright, occasionally I am really happy. I like myself, I am in shape, I pursue my hobbies and I treat myself well.
Fucking women is a whole different demon. Its about being able to fulfill your role in society first and foremost. Women reward males who do well in society. Having a stable relationship means continuously being the most dominant male in your girlfriend's social circle - and feeling like a loser when you're not. I think I can do without.

>>36791562
I don't. modern women are horrendous. they know nothing above or below emotions.

Lost my virginity at 28 and I told the girl beforehand.

You lose, OP, you thought you could fill the pathetic void in your black heart by feeding innocent's insecurities and making them even more miserable, but you lose today's battle.

>>36791562
>Why do you think anyone would ever put up with that?
I don't, Jesus Christ.

>>36791902
>as does it do wonders for confidence and self-worth
I'd say if you lose v-card via traditional method but not hooker one.

>>36791949
What did the girl say? We need details anon, you're our inside guy

>>36791949
>Lost my virginity at 28 and I told the girl beforehand.
Why didnt you lost it earlier?

OP I lost my cherry at 23, gf said she really liked that I was a virgin because she could "corrupt" me.

Some girls just love the idea I guess.

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Why are you implying as though I don't know and I haven't internalized this fact already? I don't even have hope for friends or even just a normal relationship with my family.

>>36791698

I don't have much experience and I'm pretty shy, but I play it by covering it with nonchalance and, surprisingly, since it makes me appear as if I didn't care, women are attracted to me because I don't give them attention as opposed to all the thirsty ass niggas surrounding them at all time. They will, inevitably, try to get my attention, sometimes, desperately, but since I'm insecure as fuck and my nonchalant front is just a cover to hide how pathetically self-loathong I am, I never respond out of fear of being exposed and, very quickly, they lise interest because they assume I'm 0 attracted to them.

The only thing working in my favor is that I'm not socially incompetent and I have a pretty big social circle. Only times I ever got laid were when I was too drunk to be self-conscious about my self-hatred or that one girl who couldn't accept my nonchalance and she pushed desperately on me to the point of sexual harrassment. I gave in mostly because I wanted her to get over it. Just as planned, like the self-centered slut she appeared to be, once she got her candy, she was gone in the wind.

Nevertheless, this is why that, despite occasionally getting laid, I'll forever defend the notion that having sex doesn't make you a well adjusted normie with no issues and it doesn't make you happy. What I really want is a girl to cuddle with who understands me, but I'm too much of a coward to ever get anything more than boring casual sex with easy sluts.

I wish robots could understand how pathetic this shit is.

>>36792093
>despite occasionally getting laid
Just shut up. You know nothing about the struggle to even getting laid.

>>36791977

She said it was weird, but at that point I gave her such a good time during our dates that she would have been really stupid and vain to leave. Also we were already making out and touching in bed. I legit shit you not, she thought I wasn't, but it's no wonder, I'm really goid at crafting social masks to hide my absolute abyssmal lack of self-confidence and that's about all there is to my secret Fake it till you make it.

>>36791995

Because childhood traumas which ruined my self-esteem.

>>36792154
>ruined my self-esteem
But you still got laid.

>>36792151

I do. Just because now I can get some on occasion doesn't mean that I always could. I'm the guy who lost it at 28. You need to get over that lie that everyone who gets laid always had the right cards all along and all predisposition to do do. I'm a fuck up. Always been, always will be.

My only social talent is being a fake. That's all. If you want the truth, after I had sex for the first time, I kept seeing the girl, but then, anxiety and possessive jealousy took the better of me, I sperged out a bunch and I fucked up everything. She was awfully patient with me, but I just can't do anything else right than pretending.

The only reason why I lost it in the first place is because I was so desperate not to be a wizard that I was ready to tell any possible lie to get it, but after you get over the desire to lose your virginity comes the crippling desire for real intimacy, for someone to expose your weak self to.

Sex in itself is empty, worthless. It fixes nothing.

>>36792326
>I sperged out a bunch and I fucked up everything.
What happened?

>>36792168

So what? Do you actually unironically believe that sex is a magical remedy or even an accomplishment.

You can get laid with a few hundred bucks. It's so worthless that you can buy it.

>>36792372
>You can get laid with a few hundred bucks. It's so worthless that you can buy it.
And being emotional virgin while wasting few hundred bucks for a sensation that's barely better if not worse than a good wank.

>>36792372
>It's so worthless that you can buy it.

You can buy almost anything you want. That doesn't make all of those things worthless.

>>36791562

>that very slight coloration change from the skin to the nipple

Perfect

>>36792350

As I said, insecurities, possessive jealousy and I discovered that even the most patient people have a limit to their patience. It wasn't one big fuck up. It was an accumulation of me freaking out too often, showing that I didn't trust her very much when, in reality, it's me that I didn't trust. I didn't do anything wrong, I just couldn't contain my fears and even though I apologized a lot. Enough is enough. I don't blame her, I am a lot to handle.

>>36792397

And there are many things you xan buy who are worthless.

See it like this: Through my sexual and romantic experiences, I learned one fundamental thing about being a man. Ibside of us are two things talking when it cones to love, women and sex: The heart and the penis and the two of them rarely agree with the other and one can only hope that the right girl will make them work in synergy. I would assume that the problem with kissless virgins is that since they crave both love and sex desperately, it creates an intense onner conflict. One I have gone through in my younger age. You xan't figure this shit out because your penis really wants you to give in and fuck everything that turns you on while your heart wants you to go only for the one who makes you feel loved, but seeking out love gets in the way of penis and penis gets in the way of love.

Initially, all I wanted with my first girl wad to lose my virginity, but, then, I got attached. She was really nice, but, emotionally, I was not and am probably not ready yet for love, so I tried my best and we left on good terms, but, still, what is really important, in my opinion, at leadt for me, is fullfilling the heart.

Having sex only reinforced the fact thst what I trully need is to fix my shitty self-loathing attitude in order to, one day, deserve love. If I can give any advice it's that what is important is to know yourself, what you NEED as opposed to what you want and listen to the heart. The penis is stupid and it makes people do stupid shit.

>>36793293
Huh, wow, really?

>>36793293
Why can't you normies just fuck off to Facebook or somthing?

>>36791562

Because not everyone is a shallow whore like you.

>>36791621

Teenage relationships and 25+ relationships require vastly different skills to acquire.

>>36794338

Not really, tho?

If we're talking an acutal, mutually respectful relationship, the process is the same no matter what age.

>>36794338
They do? Ah nuts, how different?

>>36791562
>There's literally middle school kids able to get in stable relationships and here you are
If you think Middle school relationships are equivalent to Adult relationships, you're deluded. Fucking read what you wrote. "Stable relationships".

What's the point of a relationship if the people involved don't plan to spend the rest of their lives together? Do you think Middle school kids make that commitment?

emore pottery

>>36791846
Why do you feel the need to lose it?

>>36791562
I had a gf in middle school. Getting a gf these days is a totally different deal. All I had to do back then was goof off in class. Now I have to own a place, own a vehicle, have my finances in order, have a good social standing, be physically impressive outside of what puberty gives me by default, etc.

And this is just the BS outside of personality standards that girls hold these days.

Also anyone here would lie about being a virgin. It's the easiest thing to lie about.

>>36791644
This

Stop being a little bitch and grow up OP

>>36794223

Why can't you fucking children learn to fucking listen once in a while instead of being stuck in your own narcissistic self importance? I'm trying to warn people of the danger of putting sex on a pedestal. Now fuck off if you got nothing to contribute to the discussion other than your vile shit.

>>36794361
>mutually respectful relationship,
which, teenage relationships are not..

>>36791562
OP is such a pathetic piece of shit he needs to go to a place full of pathetic failures who all feel like shit, and tell them there's no hope. What is the point OP? You realize most of us have come to terms with the fact it's hopless, right?

>>36796438

Mine was, sorry you're an asshole

>>36794477

Because people judge Virgins for being Virgins

>>36791562
Its not that no one can put up with adult virgins, its just that no one can put up with the ones who can't hide it.

>>36797484
People judge virgins for what ever kept them virgin for so long.

>>36798232
Even sexual and emotional trauma?

Gee, people sure are assholes.

>why do you think anyone would want you?
who said we did?

>>36791562
I don't think any of that though. In fact I have completely given up on ever finding a girl, since I have absolutely nothing to offer. Girls are cute and I'm ugly

>>36791562
Seeing your pic made me realize there is a very real possibility no women will ever undress herself for me and have sex with me. However, I'm past the point of caring about that. I'm gonna make money, I'm gonna buy a nice car and go on nice rides with myself, and maybe get a dog, that's all I care about now.

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>>36798360
>people sure are assholes
well duh
that's why there's sexual and emotional trauma in the first place

>>36798360
Yes they call it "baggage"

>>36791562
you'll learn when you hit 25+
once you're no longer in an environment that forces you into large social circles.