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>get told in school I "make things too complicated"

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>get told in school I "make things too complicated" because I ask questions and want definitions to be rigorous so I can use the least amount of terms and see the bigger picture
>every single class even teachers make fun of me
>whole class is laughing, girls are ruthless cunts to me, calling me gay, faggot, retard, idiot, stupid, crazy
>in math class calculator wizards only care about smashing buttons quickly to get answer quickly, get mocked for asking questions about definition of terms
>even my mother joins in and mocks me openly in front of family and "friends" classmates in school
>become deeply depressed
>continue gathering definitions and refining them until I can define complex concepts implicitly and make deep connections between "different" fields of math obvious because I know how to derive everything axiomatically
>fast forward to grad school
>they're all struggling to do shit I now find easy because of the system I've been developing for years
>always asking my mother overly verbose shit she can't answer and watching her slip farther and farther into a world of simpleton denial, realizing the monster she has created

Who is laughing now? These "people" have dehumanized me because I asked the definition of terms. I have been treated worse than a criminal, worse than dirt because I wanted logical rigor my whole life. They all said, "those are just words who cares." Now who is making things more complicated? I see these idiots struggle in graduate level classes that demand rigor, classes where they can't smash buttons on their digital calculators to get answers. They are like babies always whining and asking for help, never thinking. They even ask me for help now. What do I do? I give them the wrong answers. I make things miserable for them. I've spent so many years collecting so many terms, knowing which ones are redundant and which are important that I send them all on wild goose chases. When they come back confused I just do it again.
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I know what kind of student you are. You're that autistically annoying kid who doesn't know to just shut up and let the teacher speak. You deserve to be bullied
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Applications of Hessian matrices?
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>>36758182
Stay mad brainlet. Enjoy trying to catch up by binging Adderall andthe depression that follows.
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>>36758247
Nice try, only the idiots need to ask questions constantly.
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What's this system called?
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>>36758104

You shouldn't view a school as a reservoir of facts. You should use it as a place in which you can learn how to think for yourself. When you're in a classroom, a teacher has a lesson plan that they took time out of their life to create (which you weren't there for), so when you try to steer the class in a different direction with inane questions, you are doing a disservice to the work that they put in to work towards a goal.

A teacher would be happy to tell you where you can get more information. A quality scholastic experience will teach you how to think critically, determine the quality of different sources, and inspire you to dive deep into subjects that interest you. A school is a great place to find information too! They'll give you internet access, access to famous works of fiction and nonfiction alike.

I think your folly is expecting all of the wonders of inquiry to be mass produced and given to an entire class on a silver platter. They want you to learn in class, prove that you have some basal amount of knowledge, and complete assignments. Imagine being a high school physics teacher and some shit asks you to illustrate every experiment that happened along the way to prove all the constants, equations, and models for the wave nature of light. It would be asinine and you'd rather he find out for himself after class instead of asking you for all the information.
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>>36758247
>>36758227

Will you answer me? - the Statue, Don Giovanni opera.
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I'm a friendless loser who somehow becomes very popular come time for group projects or when they need notes. My autistic quest for academic success mostly comes from being smart but lazy though. It's faster to just know the material than listen to the teacher or use his lecture handouts. I was homeschooled so I never learned how to do that bullshit like taking notes or group studying. I always figured group study meant get drunk and bitch about school until just recently, which explains why I was never invited back. Surely they aren't just reading the textbook or spoonfeeding each other. The fuck is group studying then?

It is bullshit how the only questions worth asking are considered dumb questions. Why are they even in a classroom?
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>>36758104
Sounds like a pretty sad story. Either way in case you wanna keep doing this, dont. Just use the internet to gather your information, this way you dont bother anyone.
Also this
>>36758291
You could simply ask the professors questions after class.

I like how youre calling other brainlets but you dont know how not to annoy everyone you come to contact with
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>>36758104
They're not just words. They symbolize abstract concepts. The words are there to transfer the concepts from one person to another. Anyways you sound like you were annoying but congrats on your success.
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>>36758104
I'm pretty sure this is bait, grad school is actually *easier* than college because you focus on your field of study, as opposed to all the required stuff (history, lit, philosophy etc) you take as an undergrad, honestly OP why don't you admit this is at least partly fantasy?...

If you behave this way I can believe you being a pain in the ass autist high schooler, that I do believe
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>>36758104
Jesus Christ, this is why physicists look down on mathematicians.
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>>36758369

You could also ask the professor where to find more information. In scientific academia, it takes a lot of effort to find landmark experiments and it may not be pertinent to the class. If your instruction is to teach a class of 200 students Physics II, then you have 50 minutes to go over how to use the equation of gravitational force. You just have to tell them the value of the gravitational constant. Sure, a professor might take time out of his free time to go find out "why G = 420" for you, but it would be better to ask the student to find such an answer for himself.

>>36758399

Are you in graduate school? Graduate level classes expect the synthesis of much more information than any undergraduate class would ever do. Just because you're interested in it doesn't make it easier. I doubt you would ever get to "drop your lowest exam score" in any graduate program.
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>>36758287

it's like doing prolog by hand, reducing n-sat to parity

>>36758227

increasing storage capacity and retrieval time, renormalization, etc

>>36758291
>being mediocre is good for you, submit, submit

>>36758388
>they symbolize abstract concepts

words symbolize abstract concepts? no shit sherlock. are you going to tell me that words are made out of letters next and that letters are arbitrarily decided?

>>36758399
>grad school is easier than college

that's true actually, but it's still fun watching the button smashers struggle over polysyllabic words

>"UGHHH... why do we have to learn all these terms?"

Meanwhile I'm three books ahead and have found and corrected dozens of mistakes the authors made because not even mathematicians care about definitions, even CT blowhards.

>>36758482

Physics students are some of the dumbest students. You show them a greek letter and they either get a hard on and think they're geniuses or they have a panic attack and drop out.
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Glad to see fucking someone's happy about something for once but that is some grade A fuck you up for life bitterness right there, keep it cool homie, or pride will lead you by the hand into a big mistake
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>>36758587
Grade A Autism. I bet you the "errors" you found are completely inconsequential and solvable by one phrase added to it.
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>>36758526
my school allows us undergrads to take grad courses, so while the workload and lectures and expectations are heavier it's not difficult if it's what you're passionate about, just the fact that u use the word "synthesis" the way you did tells me ur a bad student whose totally pretentious and annoying, I don't believe ur even in college
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>>36758587
You did not read >>36758291

>It would be asinine and you'd rather he find out for himself after class instead of asking you for all the information.

Take extracurricular learning out of the classroom just like you should be naked in the shower and not at the grocery store.
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This literally sounds like autism. Not in the insulting internet way, in the "you should figure out a treatment plan" way.

>fast forward to grad school
What are you doing in grad school?
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>>36758104
just read the goddamn textbooks if you want exact definitions.
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>>36758645

I literally have to rewrite at least 10-20% of most textbooks I read because of how fucking dumb people with fucking PhDs are. It is hilarious how many textbooks are so blatantly copy and pasted from secondary sources without ever considering the origin.

>>36758698

Correcting the mistakes of "smart" "people".

>>36758657

What are you fucking blathering about?
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>>36758654
syn-the-sis
'sinTHeses/
noun
>the combination of ideas to form a theory or system.
noun: synthesis; plural noun: syntheses
"the synthesis of intellect and emotion in his work"
synonyms: combination, union, amalgam, blend, mixture, compound, fusion, composite, alloy; More

So you agree that the workload, lectures, and expectations are heavier, but the class is actually easier? Are you disagreeing with me just because I used a big word?

Pic related, you
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I feel bad for OP. He's going to end up doing something stupid and getting himself fucked over/killed.

This isn't even envy or jealousy, I just know what will happen.
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>>36758739
You were probably being annoying during class and you're holding a grudge against people who don't share the same interests or priorities as you.
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>>36758716

The textbooks are flawed because grad students and PhD's apparently doesn't mean shit anymore and too many people got to that level by doing two things:

1. "Imitating" (cheating off of) the smart people
2. Button smashing

When they're confronted with tens thousands of pages of original research with no one to guide them they fail and so I've dedicated a thread to laughing at these stupid fucks for mocking me because I was capable of independent thinking before deciding to waste Daddy's money on a status degree.

>>36758798
>asking questions about the content of the class instead of making pop culture references and stroking the Math Education Major's ego makes me annoying

Okay champ, have fun with that one. I'd rather be annoying than braindead.
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>>36758739
>Correcting the mistakes of "smart" "people".
Yeah I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say you're not in grad school. You sound like you're still in high school.

Why do you think you're surrounded by "dumb" people? Is it because you're *literally* the smartest student in your field? Do you think people as "smart" as you exist?
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>be a grad student in mathematics at UW
>feel embarrassed when I meet people like OP
desu I love this field but I hate some of the people in it. The autism in programming/comp-sci is pretty bad, but for some reason mathematics always attracts some of the most bitter of the bunch. I don't know how it happens, but every person like this adheres to the "bitter nerd" stereotype to a T.

I guess some people get bullied or something when they're younger and latch onto something they feel they're good at and their ego drives them to try and lord it over as many people as possible by playing out some kind of Nerd Revenge fantasy without realizing that they've created an entire strawman world to hate. At least they make it easy to avoid them.
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>>36758876
We have our own people of this caliber in Physics and they're just as annoying but they turn the other way. Instead of going full "muh rigor" they have hare brained ideas and dismiss established scientific work for the thought experiment they came up with last night.
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>>36758848
See>>36758526

> You just have to tell them the value of the gravitational constant. Sure, a professor might take time out of his free time to go find out "why G = 420" for you, but it would be better to ask the student to find such an answer for himself.

If you think the sum of learning happens in the classroom, then you're already braindead.
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>>36758104
The education system in a lot of places in the US is total garbage for gifted students. You need highly supportive parents at minimum to get anything out of it. It's depressing to think the heights we could've scaled if we were taught to the limits of our abilities from a younger age.

I had it much better than you, but if I were you I'd still try to scale back the bitterness, as we in academia need money from the normies/brainlets to fund our research.

Also, >>>/sci/ is usually the natural home for brainlet hate threads.
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>>36758104
gj brah
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That is public schooling alright. When it became mandatory the focus switched from quality to quantity. Jobs are so specialized today, so what need is there in the workforce, for someone who understands the bigger picture, someone who can actually break down concepts. None.
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>>36758859
>I'm gonna go out on a limb

How brave. What gave me away? Doing prolog by hand or reducing fucking n-SAT problems to parity? What did you think fucking ronald graham was shitposting on 4chan?

>>36758997

I'm working on the bitterness. It's tough because I am an avid journaler, much to the demise of everyone who has ever come into contact with me, so I have near total recall of most of my life, which means I don't forget bad memories as easily as everyone else, I relive them often. I tried taking medication for the nightmares but it just fucked me up worse.

>>36759007

thanks buddu
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>>36758876
This is a good post. I like this post.
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>>36758104
You've become more intelligent, but not more wise. When you mature (if you do), you'll realize that judgement and hatred are irrational emotions.
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>>36759128
>Doing prolog by hand
Basic undergrad level coursework

>reducing fucking n-SAT problems to parity
Advanced undergrad level coursework

If you were actually in grad school you'd have stopped caring about these things a long time ago. When you write drivel like this:

>Physics students are some of the dumbest students. You show them a greek letter and they either get a hard on and think they're geniuses or they have a panic attack and drop out.

That tells me you either:
1) Don't know any physics students
or 2) Go to a joke university (or high school)
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>>36759294

You're right. I'm not in grad school anymore. I literally have my feet up on my corner office's desk. I am looking out at the rest of the financial district. I just finished blowing my load into an escort's mouth.

Sent from my iPhone.
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>>36759128
the bitterness comes fro myou caring about insignificance does it not?
in a logical world, if something is beneath you, something is not worth your attention, therefore in this context, you caring is illogical and you should move on

Although I understand the frustration of understanding stuff easily and being mind boggled when people are having difficulty

The part about making people chase their tales is nice though, although its a bad thing because it makes you feel in control whereas you could be making friends through that and actually get some pussy
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This is why I went into biology and not analytic philosophy or math or law or some other autistic shit. Even at the top grad programs people are chill and not severely autistic.
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>>36758104
dog you're a fucking aspie for even thinking this would be a good thing to bullshit

t. masters mech e student
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