Is this the perfect society? Normies get tortured then executed.

>>36699885
How is being an outer party worker easy. It's literally depressively draining. Also its inevitable that you commit thoughtcrime at some point.

>>36699885
Kill yourself
oreganilio

>>36699885
The fact that you praise the societal model portrayed in 1984 denotes your far right near nazism affiliation.

>>36699885
You didnt read the book, did you? Literally everything you do can be an excuse for your arrest, even if you don't do anything wrong chances are that by accident it will be interpreted as "wrong". Also, outer party members cannot have sex, good food or even write anything. Its better to be a proletarian than an outer party member.

Kys

>>36700351
The Nazis were too inefficient to ever work
>>36700408
That wouldn't be bad being an outer party member wouldn't be that bad.
1. Most people here don't get sex
2. You can technically get sex from proles and it is tolerated at least for a while.
3. Thought crime would be literally impossible soon enough because of new speak

>>36700918
The nazis were not inefficient. They were extremely efficient, depending on your definition of efficiency. If too much paperwork is inefficieny to you, then I guess they were.

You didnt read the book, son. The only thing that was needed for the State to jail and torture you was the a tip from one of your coworkers. And since this kind of behavior was encouraged, everyone did it, turning it into a horrible psychopathic environment. Also, don't you remember the sex leagues? Some party members could not have sex at all. The party members that could could only so for reproduction purposes. After that it was strictly prohibited by the Big Brother. Outer party members could go to the slums to have sex with hookers but that was strictlt prohibited(aka illegal) so you're wrong.

>>36699885
>you will never be part of the thought police and beat the shit out of subversive normies

>>36701038
>Tells someone they've never read 1984
>Thinks Big Brother was real
Nice double think comrade

His prediction was close to coming true. There was already Eurasia and Eastasia in the form of the Warsaw Pact and China, if USA went communist due to the new deal: the sequel or the socialists could get more than 6% of the vote in 1912 then things would go to shit

>>36701221
Read the sentence again, faggot, and point to me where did I say he was real.

>>36701221
Are you a retard desu

>>36701338
>Strictly prohibited by the big brother
Anon you really are a prole of the mind

>>36701556
That doesnt prove anything. The Big Brother was always referenced like this in the book, like he was an actual entity. You dont know how to read.

>>36699885
Pro
>sustainable
>provides purpose
>provides wife
>total homogeneity

con
>shortages of most things
>propaganda machines can't be turned off
>terror bombings

>>36701635
I feel like a high chance to be captured and tortured to shit is a con

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>>36701635
>implying i wouldnt join the thought police
Fuck normies desu

>>36701675
You have to be subversive.
>inb4 the linguist
>he clearly did not sincerely believe in ingsoc and didn't give a shit that Wilson didn't either
>inb4 the jolly guy
>whispering subversive stuff in your sleep indicates that it was all an act, which also explains why his children were so suspicious of him

Brave New World is actually a breddy good society if you're born upper-class. Probably better than 1984.

>>36699885
This prolly a troll thread. But if you read the book you would know that being an outer party member was hell.

>>36701725
Most outer party members didn't seem to mind that much though. You see, you're forgetting all the nice parts:
>go on walks
>get married
>communaly celebrate big brother

>>36701770
Fuck off inner party shill

>>36701038
Much of the state apparatus was depicted as turning a blind eye to a lot of stuff. The chick described screwing around, and managed to obtain contraband unhindered until she joined the resistance.

>>36701710
>linguist
Are we talking about Syme? I thought the point was that he was already after the torturing when we met him. He was all giddy about newspeak because he already has had his visit in the ministry of love. He's basically what Winston was at the end of the book.

>>36701855
What I'm saying is that the party provided meaning and most of the trappings of a decent life.

>>36701900
There's one particular line that indicates that he knew about the main characters disbelief in the system without doing anything about it. I saw Syme as being on a personal power trip with no real regard for the system.

>>36699885
>Being an outer party member is good if you keep to the rules
Nigger what?

>>36701988
Outer part members are minor aristocrats.

>food
>gin
>state matchmaking service
>cushy jobs
>meaning

>>36701855
>implying any one with big brother love is a shill
My grandfather fought in the war against Eastasia.
At least IngSoc is better than the Eurasian hordes.

>>36702115
>implying we've ever been at war with Eastasia
lmao look at this fucker right here

>>36702115
The war was meaningless and the subsequent wars were fabricated.

Your grandpa died for no reason at all

>>36702256
God you sound like such a faggot i hope you get cancer you cuck the ae is not pointkess

>>36702256
Thats a very ungood opinion to have there comrade.

>>36701635
I think that living in Gilead would be better,if we`re actually talking about living in dystopias. Unlike 1984,the society depicted in A Handmaid`s Tale is only a dystopia for degenerate normies and women.

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>>36703895
yeah if you are a brainlet
pic related is you btw

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Nice edge you got there my good pal.

>>36702870
>God
Into Miniluv you go.

>>36703895
>95
>gilead
how many times were you smashed up and down on your head when you were born?

>>36701635
>sustainable

Read the gulag archipelago. It's not sustainable.

I like how the main character fabricates news stories about a Chad being a martyr

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Oceania would suck ass for all the reasons described above, even for a robot. Pic related is the totalitarian world that robots would love:

>everything based on hard logic and science, anything which is meant to appeal to emotions is laughed at
>government-mandated gfs; if you want to fuck someone, they're legally obligated to say yes
>In the event of an uprising, everyone ends up getting lobotomized, with you living the rest of your life in a blissful haze

>>36701770
>Most outer party members didn't seem to mind that much though.
That's because they had to pretend they didn't mind, or they'd be carted away and killed or worse.

How could anyone so fundamentally misunderstand a story

>>36705260
it would be pretty comfy tb h i would love being outer party

>>36705341
You haven't read the book. Winston describes his life and it is the least comfy existence imaginable

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>>36700351

Or denotes their far left communist views

Fucking reddit

Interesting thing about the 1984 world is you don't even know of the world outside of England is how the party says it is. Landing strip one could be an isolated north Korea style country

>>36699885
mabyer it is so testing

>>36705425

His flat where he has the corner to hide from the telescreen is comfy

>>36705510

That corner got routinely searched by the thought police, though.

>>36699885
If you can't conform to this society why do you think you would last in Oceania? Op is doubleplus brainlet

>>36705556

Did they actually come to his flat to search the comfy corner?

>>36705588
Yes, they went through his diary and even replaced a speck of dust he put on it

>>36701038
>Nazis were efficient
>devoted manpower and resources to a continent wide genocide while their best soldiers were freezing to death in the far east

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No love for pic related?

>government mandated orgies so no excuses for being a khv
>side effect free heroin (soma) on tap
>helicopters everywhere
>no disease
>look 25 until you die
>high chance of you being a genetically engineered Chad or Stacy
>mental conditioning from birth so even if you're not Chad you love it anyway
>if you somehow break the conditioning, your only punishment is being sent to Iceland where they have the same level of tech but the only people are autists like you or sometimes you get made one of the 10 world controllers instead

Perfect world.

>>36705673
I agree. Top-comfy tier world.
Huxley was the shit.

>>36705673

Bernard Marx seemed pretty unhappy, what with all the manlet-shaming because of a mix-up when he was being made.

>>36705673
Why didnt the Savage just take half a gram and not give a damn?

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>>36705632

Almost too hard to belive?

>>36700351
But 1984 was a criticism of Far-left communism/Stalinism

>>36705917
Was the Savage, dare I say it, our guy?

>obsesses over oneitis, Lenina
>spergs out around her constantly
>finally gets his chance to bang her
>she gets naked in front of him
>"wtf, I wanted a virgin waifu gf, you've had Chad's dick in you, do not want"
>runs off to live a life of solitude in a lighthouse

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>>36706028
>Islamic

took me a second

>>36706176
you must be a kodak fan

>>36706151
I've been kind of thinking he was our guy. Mainly because he didn't fit in with the world at all