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Do you think we have a natural right as humans to have the choice

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Do you think we have a natural right as humans to have the choice to commit suicide? I think that since you didn't even have to option in the beginning to choose to be in a body (consciousness seems so random eh?) that you can choose to stop being in a body whenever you want by killing yourself. It shouldn't be illegal if you no longer want to participate.
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I think assisted suicide should be legal for any reason regardless of how trivial for anyone without dependents.
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>>36530654
your own life is the one thing that you should have absolute right over

even if that means ending it
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>>36530654
>You can find men who have gone so far as to profess wisdom and yet maintain that one should not offer violence to one's own life, and hold it accursed for a man to be the means of his own destruction; we should wait, say they, for the end decreed by nature. But one who says this does not see that he is shutting off the path to freedom. The best thing which eternal law ever ordained was that it allowed to us one entrance into life, but many exits
>The best thing which eternal law ever ordained was that it allowed to us one entrance into life, but many exits
>The best thing which eternal law ever ordained

Seneca the Younger, top dog philolosopher
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>natural right
Sadly, not consistently. But ideally, yeah, we'd all come preprogrammed with kill switches or I dunno a fucking nembutal bladder or some shit. Walking away, saying "I don't want to do this anymore", should ideally always be a right, because it preserves both the freedom of all things that exist and the stability of the systems that they exist in. But of course it isn't because we're in hell and reality is actually an insane sadomasochist as an aggregate entity so lol
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>>36530777
So the author is saying not to wait for the end decreed by nature, for that is shutting off the path to freedom?
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>>36530654
If you have to ask, well...
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>>36530962
yes.

this is just my interpretation, but

instead of laying around waiting for old age, we can go fight in combat for something we believe in, risk a rock climbing accident, get in a car crash, slip on a banana peel, or just shoot ourselves

there are many ways for us to die other than old age or natural causes, some of which are risks that we willfully take and others, not so much

basically the "many exits" is a result of human free will to take actions for our selves. almost everything we do has a risk of death

the variety of deaths we experience are visible evidence of freedom

there is beauty in that freedom, in the variety of deaths that we can choose consciously or unconsciously through our own actions and the actions of others

but hey what do i know
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>>36530962
Not for everyone, but for you in particular, yeah
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>>36530962
Seneca believed that the most important thing about life was living 'well'. He says repeatedly in his writings that it doesn't matter how long you live, only how well. If you were ever in a position where you were forced to live in shame for the rest of your days, no action to redeem yourself was possible, or you were otherwise incapable of living life virtuously, it is not only acceptable but the best course of action to 'free yourself' by committing suicide.
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