>when women masturbate, they make no noise; when they have

>>36422435
They do it to attract other males to increase the chance of having a child.

Same reason why the penis has a head shaped the way it is, to scoop out other males semen.

>>36422435
Why have you automatically ruled out that moaning is a natural way to communicate pleasure and that women do it to communicate their pleasure? That actually makes the most sense doesn't it. It's not necessarily forced, it's just that women don't have any drive to communicate with people who aren't there, so they don't moan during masturbation.

Maybe you should just be happy instead of finding new ways every day to be mad about people who are having fun lives.

>>36422464
If it's a natural communication, why is it so different between cultures? You know, japanese girls moaning like they are getting stabbed, american ones doing it like they are lifting heavy weights, etc.

>>36422516
You're up to something right there.

>>36422516
Where are you getting your information from? Because porn is not indicative of reality. I've never had sex with a girl who moaned like she was lifting weights.

Also Japanese culture emphasizes politeness and being quiet rather than standing out. That is drilled into them from their birth. It's entirely possible that this would control them to turn down their natural instinct to moan.

Also even if moaning is entirely "faked" and "forced," who cares? Does it really indicate a character flaw? Does it really matter in any way? If your girl's moaning bothers you just tell her to stop

>>36422516
Different cultural attitudes towards how women should behave during sex.
Japs for instance prize purity so women consciously enjoying sex is a no-no, so they either have to be raped or made to seem submissive with exaggerated cries.
I worded it terribly but the point is gooks like tsunderes that dont know they like to fuck while the west and its sexual liberation celebrates the joy of sex for both partners.
Plus, anon, do YOU moan and shit when you jerk off?

>>36422616
>>36422555
>MUH CULTURE MUH CULTURE
fuck off

>>36422555
I've never had sex and I'm not trying to imply it indicates a flaw in anyone, just that I find the thought unnerving.

>>36422616
I don't, and I can't imagine myself moaning while having sex. If I were to perform for a longish time with some intensity my breath would probably get irregular and I'd grunt, but not moan. Unless I did it artificially.

>>36422647
Keep being irrationally mad over minor shit.

>>36422435
It's evolutionary, a loud woman is signaling to other males in the area that she's ready to mate or in heat. That's why female dogs howl at night when they're in heat.

>>36422464
>Maybe you should just be happy instead of finding new ways every day to be mad about people who are having fun lives.

because its all a fucking facade. women just use you as an emotional crutch. you dont matter to them at fucking all. why even bother with sex then? just buy the biggest dildo you can find and leave me the fuck alone. stop pretending like its my fucking fault youre biologically wired to not give a shit about me.

relationships are a meme.
whelp probably kms soon

>>36422688
>because its all a fucking facade. women just use you as an emotional crutch. you dont matter to them at fucking all. why even bother with sex then? just buy the biggest dildo you can find and leave me the fuck alone. stop pretending like its my fucking fault youre biologically wired to not give a shit about me.

You're just destroying yourself with these self-defeating beliefs. This world view isn't healthy and it's not true. You need to stop looking at average IQ women who go to bars and look at decent women who have morals.

>>36422435
It's literally >>36422464
>"Oh! Fuck! Yes! Uhhhhhhhh!"
>Translates to: yes keep doing that, it makes me feel good
they don't need to vocally tell themselves to do shit while masturbating.

No, moaning during sex isn't necessarily involuntary unless they're cumming (sometimes little whimpers escape). When my roomate's home my gf is quiet as a mouse. When it's just us she's very vocal. It's a way of communicating "yes keep doing that"

>>36422435
But that's wrong you fucking retard.

I only moan when I'm cumming. I'm otherwise silent as a statue. I only breath more deeply. The only reason I'm "moaning" i.e. grunting when I'm having sex, is that men watch too much porn and they think artlessly jackhammering a barely lubricated bit of my anatomy and grazing my cervix is supposed to be increasing my pleasure, which it isn't.

And the only reason this is happening at all, is because my walls are bad and I had to spend a decade of my life perfecting silent masturbation. A girl that has not undergone this kind fo extensive training, would naturally moan if she simply let go and took breaths naturally while being pleasured. It's just how the breath comes out. Screaming and shouting ah ah ah like a retarded mule is obviously fake, but that's also not moaning in the first place.

>>36422435
I think theyre just faking it. I fucked my high school GF in a dressing room while her Mom was near shopping and she didnt make a sound and seemed like she wasnt trying to hold it back or anything. But when we fucked other times she would moan/etc

>>36422435
I don't moan when I masturbate, but do a little when I'm fucking, and I'm a guy. Also, you ever had a stick shoved into your pelvic area rhythmically, probably gets your diagphram working.

Oh /r9k/ never change

You got brainwashed by porn and are trying to tell women about their own anatomy when you don't even understand it

It's kind of sad but relieving knowing you'll all die virgins that will never hurt a woman with your stupidity

>>36422753
>self-defeating beliefs
apparently its a fucking fact, i mean if you hold OP's post to be true.
>This world view isn't healthy and it's not true.
its the logical conclusion of OP's post
>and look at decent women who have morals.
sure senpai id love to. except they dont exist. right now i have three dating profiles active through three different sites. on tinder alone i must have gone through somewhere around 5k women, considering how i have 284 matches and get one match out of maybe 20 or so females
inb4
>YOURE TOO PICKY
the only girls im not willing to swipe right on are the ones who have a kid or some other seriously disgusting shit like gauge piercings in their nose or obesity.

ive exhausted all the matches near me using other apps or sites too. its all fucking shit as far as you can see. there is literally no hope. you can either kill yourself, or fuck a whore for the experience. at least you know a whore is being dishonest when she says she enjoyed it.

If you make no noise they ask if you're okay because they expect porn screams. Men are pretty fragile about performance. But mostly I just do heavy breathing and that's fine.

Also yeah masturbating, obviously we know exactly what to do. Most dudes really don't, and a lot of girls don't feel much from penetration anyway

>>36422788
Couldn't have worded this better myself. It's just a shame robots never let anything said by actual females sink in,

>>36422647
>give answer that isnt /r9k/'s usual HURR ME HATE WOMEN internet cuckboy shit
>whine like a bitch
Fuck off.

>>36422945
>Heavy Breathing
desu way hotter than "OOOOOHHHH FUCK ME OHHHH MY GOOOOOD YES YES OH FUCK YES OHHHHH"

It's more natural and it makes those little whimpers that sometimes come from the back of a girls throat when she's close mean more if you know what I'm saying.

also this reminded me of a song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv4QugDoWC0

>>36422435

VIIIIIIIIIIRGGGGGGGGIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNN, that feeling when you and your wife cum together at the same time and she screams your name and you scream hers because WERE NOT VIRGINS YOU FAG

>>36422827
>It's kind of sad but relieving knowing you'll all die virgins that will never hurt a woman with your stupidity
then leave the board
why are you here
>>36422788
>The only reason I'm "moaning" i.e. grunting when I'm having sex, is that men watch too much porn and they think artlessly jackhammering a barely lubricated bit of my anatomy and grazing my cervix is supposed to be increasing my pleasure, which it isn't.
these are the kinds of skanks who infest r9k. you have to be a special kind of fucked to post here as a female with those circumstances

>>36422516
Bc just like other forms of communication, like speech, it changes according to ethnicity/nationality

jizzrag headass

>>36422945
>Most dudes really don't, and a lot of girls don't feel much from penetration anyway
then why bother with us. there's literally no point.

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>70% of women orgasm during rape

hmmm

>>36422945
May ask some questions on the masturbation front?

I guess nowadays some women masturbate to porn, and being on 4chan that may include hentai/yaoi, but most erotica consumed by women is written.

Do those women masturbate while they read? Or do they read something they find hot and later, when they masturbate, recall the passages? Are women as visual as we are when it comes to masturbation (I think it's why we like porn, if you are fed the visuals you don't need to waste energy conjuring them)?

Furthermore: how come women are fine with not seeing their partner when having sex (doggystyle being one of the preferred positions, liking being blindfolded, etc)? Do they, meanwhile, imagine the visuals of being fucked by her partner? Do they imagine being fucked by someone else? Do they just enjoy looking at blank walls/not seeing anything?

Sorry for asking so much, women just seem so foreign.

>>36423106
>how come women are fine with not seeing their partner when having sex (doggystyle being one of the preferred positions, liking being blindfolded, etc)?
because they really dont give a fucking shit about you

>>36423029
>these are the kinds of skanks who infest r9k. you have to be a special kind of fucked to post here as a female with those circumstances

I'm slut-chan and I have come to educate you on female anatomy, efficient sexual interaction and female sexual response.

It is pointless to resist. Thank your lord I have not decided to wear a trip.

>>36423061
Yeah, people have different exclamations in different languages. It's a bit surprising but true.

>>36422885
It's the logcial conclusion of Op's post? If a girl fakes a moan that means life is meaningless and you should kill yourself? And you think there is not 1 single woman on planet earth that has morals? Maybe the reason you think all women are hedonistic sluts is because you use hook-up sex apps to meet them? Go outside and meet women in real life.

Come on man stop with this absolutist self-talk. It's not correct.

>>36423066
I never did. I was kissless etc until I met someone on here. Female orgasm can be tricky, like, a guy pounding does not feel sensation like guys get jerking off or us rubbing our clit. But a combination of factors, some of us can learn to cum from penetration with a partner that you're comfortable with and who will take time.. (Me I think my biggest issue is not being comfortable with my body) But I live in hope. (source:friends and a bit of Google.) but I like all the other things that come with intimacy so it's nbd. No point stressing over no orgasm

>>36423188
Meant a guy pounding does not feel to us like those things.

Meh I'm tired

>>36422616
I don't moan when I jerk off. I watch porn on mute. And the fact that people want to make sex an audible affair weirds me out. Because I'd probably make no noise during the first time I had sex and would apparently completely creep out my partner.

>>36423014
Lately I've been watching almost exclusive homemade porn and amateurs (thank god for mainstream porn sites finally getting the idea to cultivate communities of permanent users) and I have concluded that what I like about it is three-fold and very basic.

Professional porn is obviously better shot, in higher definitions, featuring more adventurous acts and the pornstars are obviously giving more to the performance of these acts.

BUT

a) The moaning is fake as fuck, b) there is no serious skin contact, ever, because of the stupid idea that the focus of every shot must always be the penetration, and not the scene in its totality and c) there is no actual interaction between the actors. Amateurs, especially in good videos talk with each other, make jokes, ask each other stuff etc. There is verbal communication that goes beyond the rudimentary OH YEAH YEAH DO YOU LIKE THAT YEAH TAKE THAT BITCH. And the correlate YEAH YEAH FUCK MY PUSSY I LOVE IT YEAH. It's not that I mind the content of what they're saying. It's that they are recurgitating basic phrases without actually directing them at each other.

All of these drain the passion from the shoot and you are left with a mechanistic repetition that looks kind of like a very autistic version of sex.

>>36423179
>If a girl fakes a moan that means life is meaningless and you should kill yourself?
that is a fucking great strawman m8, come fucking on thats clearly not what i said.

sex seems pretty meaningless from the woman's perspective if they get more out of masturbating alone.
>And you think there is not 1 single woman on planet earth that has morals?
ffs yea i know i said "they dont exist", but you should be able to tell that im just being facetious. of course they do. its just that the ones that do, are either:
1. rare
2. dont want anything to do with me
and thats just the way it is. chances arent 0 just yet, but my odds seem so abysmally low its practically a forgone conclusion.
>use hook-up sex apps
not all the apps i use are like that. tinder is pretty much a hookup app i agree.
>Go outside and meet women in real life.
k
go fuck yourself cunt
JUST X
no yea ive never tried that before!

im doing the best i can. i really dont know what else to do. im kinda washed up at this point. im about to turn 26. i just dont care anymore, i dont want to be a part of this world. its so distasteful, theres nothing here for me. I can never give these women what they want.

>>36423188
>a guy pounding does not feel sensation like guys get jerking off or us rubbing our clit.
then as i fucking said, why the fuck bother.

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>This thread
I'm original I swear!

>>36422435
I moan by myself when I'm feeling really good

>>36423460
>sex seems pretty meaningless from the woman's perspective if they get more out of masturbating alone.
MEN DO TOO you fucking idiot. Hand feels way better mechanically than any sex I've had, and I've had plenty of sex.

THE POINT of sex isn't about the raw physicality of it you retard, it's the emotional bond that you form. Hence why women moan when they're fucking someone and not when masturbating. Women are turned on primarily by emotional build-up, and there is little to no emotional build-up with masturbation, only what their imagination can create. The emotional build-up during sex with a real person is very intense and inspires them to start moaning.

>1. rare
>2. dont want anything to do with me
>and thats just the way it is. chances arent 0 just yet, but my odds seem so abysmally low its practically a forgone conclusion.
OK so life is pointless now and you should just kill yourself? There's more to do in life than fuck bitches. Stop worshiping pussy, it's actually one of the least important aspects of life. I know plenty of dudes age 50 and up who have great lifestyles and never got married nor had long term girlfriends. Even if you can't ever meet a girl ever (I don't buy that), then you can still be happy and live a good fulfilling life.

Have you tried self improvement? Exercise? Eating healthy? Getting promoted at your job? Picking up interesting hobby? Reducing defeatist self-talk? I know you haven't done at least the last one because you're pathetically bitching on this imageboard about how life is pointless because you can't touch a pussy every day, so work on that one.

>>36422616
>it's natural
>it's cultural
Which one is it now, faggot?

>>36423460
>sex seems pretty meaningless from the woman's perspective if they get more out of masturbating alone.
ya clearly that's why they fuck and suck every chad that enters their life even though there is a strong stigma against being a slut.

get a fuckn life dude you are just retarded.

>>36423661
Never have I seen such wisdom from a dude on here. Pissing into the wind though. I've long since given up trying to educate
>>36423460
Literally said. It's the emotional and mental aspect. I'll also add you simply do not get this from random one night stands. Which is why it's hardly of value to us that men are so desperate for sex all the time. I'm sick of fucking saying this on here. Maybe if you all had sex you'd understand and stop putting it on a pedestal

>>36422435
wtf girls dont moan when they masturbate? i must be the only one

>>36423758
But women are fine with having one night standers with hot men. It's not that they need to feel an emotional connection, just that their beauty standards are much higher.

>>36423799
That's a pretty wide generalization there dude.
There are propably about as many men that are ok with one nighters as there are women, yet hardly anyone would consider them as fulfilling as sex with an emotional connection.

>>36423799
Not all. I'm inclined to think girls who do that do have self worth issues or just think it's the done thing. That's generalising though. There's also a lot of women who must enjoy it.

>>36422463
>Same reason why the penis has a head shaped the way it is, to scoop out other males semen.
This is LITERALLY unfounded pseudoscience

>>36423799
Out of the 13 women I talk to on a regular basis only 1 of them thinks it's okay to to have 1 night stands.

Sounds like you need to get out into the real world and meet real women.

>>36422463
>to scoop out other males semen.
Except for cutlets

>>36422788
I'd make you moan, no matter how long it'd take
>not implying aggressive sex, just licking like a dog and spending all the time needed to find the special spots

>>36423661
>MEN DO TOO you fucking idiot. Hand feels way better mechanically than any sex I've had, and I've had plenty of sex.
whelp, thats it then.

>it's the emotional bond that you form.
so sex is the only way to form close bonds? just have a bond and dont have sex then.
>he emotional build-up during sex with a real person is very intense and inspires them to start moaning
so you say. what was that about "muh r9k male autists commenting on female anatomy" again
not as intense as jerking off by yourself it would seem.
>There's more to do in life than fuck bitches
then you stop doing it.
>Stop worshiping pussy
I dont.
>I know plenty of dudes age 50 and up who have great lifestyles and never got married nor had long term girlfriends.
wow thats so great senpai, too bad ill never be one of those guys, because my life is terrible as it is, and having no gf just makes it even worse. so the one thing i could have had has been taken away.
>Have you tried self improvement? Exercise? Eating healthy? Getting promoted at your job? Picking up interesting hobby?
yup. all of those. you fucking memester.
>Reducing defeatist self-talk?

yea im getting really fucking tired of these memes. this kind of shit comes from the same retards who complain you dont sympathize with women enough and then call you a piece of shit.

I work two fucking jobs my man to get through grad school cunt. maybe you should stop assuming nobody on here tries at all.

>because you're pathetically bitching on this imageboard
says the retard whos pathetically posting self improvement memes to people who either wont listen, or already are trying.

>>36423907
I'm done talking to you. It's obvious you want to be unhappy.

Have fun with your unhappy life that you are choosing for yourself. Never blame anyone else for your unhappiness.

>>36423758
>It's the emotional and mental aspect.
then why penis in vagina you stupid roast.
>Maybe if you all had sex you'd understand and stop putting it on a pedestal
maybe if you left this board it would be 1000x better

do you actually think most of what they during sex is genuine

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>>36423851
>>36423870
>>36423875
I think most women are willing to have a one night stand, but most of the men they can reach are not hot enough for them, or can do it because they'd be socially shamed for it.

>>36423106
I'm really not so sure that the visual/written distinction isn't socialized. And I'm saying this for two reasons: What I like about stories is the setting and situations, not my personal struggle to visualize what's described. So I don't have unmediated access to terms in some way that men don't. But, it seems to me, as someone who browses /d/ a lot, that world-building and fetishy settings are not a turn on for women in particular. On the other side, I am turned on by visuals in porn, as well. But what turns me on beyond the basic representation of the act, is the way the image is composed of the two people fucking each other, and the way they interact. I also don't think this is a different experience from what male porn connoiseurs search for in porn (normies don't count).

Also we masturbate while we read? Like men. I haven't masturbated to my fantasies since I was 12.

>how come women are fine with not seeing their partner when having sex

This isn't true at all. Women (especially normies) are especially into seeing their partner and having a lot of skin contact. Doggy and blindfolds are good for different reasons. Doggy is a sluttier and more submissive position if you're feeling like that (because you position yourself to be used), and a lot of people mention it not because they like having sex in that position more, but because taken on its own the penetration in that position is more physically stimulating. Similarly, blindfolds are for more submissive times, and what they add is a sense of helplessness and anticipation (and added focus to your sensations). I mean yeah, you are conscious that you are having sex with your partner, but you can focus more on the sensation itself and the feelings the setup causes. You don't need to visualize anything.

>>36423944
>I'm done talking to you. It's obvious you want to be unhappy.
haha sure man. I just want to be miserable! yea thats it! y-you just choose it fucker! thats why youre so unhappy!

i see you didnt read anything

you really are a piece of subhuman fucking scum. people like you are utter trash.

>>36423980
Yeah, same goes for men too, though.
But that doesn't mean that that's all they want.

>>36422435
>>when women masturbate, they make no noise;

Says who? When I do it and there's no one around I moan. Never had sex so wouldn't know how I'd react during that but it's bullshit that women don't moan during masturbation

>>36423944
> If you tried hard and still failed, you want to be unhappy

I'm sure there's a special name for that particular fallacy, but what is it named?

I masturbate in my shitty little room and if I were to moan aloud and other were to hear it'd be pretty shameful.
I can also repress the sound during intercourse, it just feels better to make the sound.
"Explosive sounds" are used in numerous martial arts, it is said there that voicing the movement imbues it with more power, this sounding off also accentuates the importance of breath- I believe sexual exclamations are similar.