What is /r9k/'s political affiliation, and why? For me,

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>>36333119
same as you but only on the right, ancap for the memes and would also go full hitler

Far right reactionary. Social progressivism will destroy the west

>>36333142
I got centrist red on that political chart, where SocDems are at apparently. Unfortunately for them, I voted for Drumpf during this election cycle.

Socialist nationalist because fuck poop skins but also fuck porky.

I don't think I have one. Maybe it's the extremism in both sides of my current political climate that influences this belief. I guess there's huge issues with the majority of beliefs I'm presented with. Everyone seems to be a bleeding liberal, an ultra-conservative, or so scared and wrapped up in conspiracies that they can't even make a difference in the world. I don't know what is happening.

My mom volunteered for Barry Goldwater's campaign when she was in high school, became more conservative as she got older, and I was always a momma's boy.

>>36333154
I sort of agree but I think the old ways are very primitive: I think liberalism should've stopped where it was with the French Revolution but it has evolved itself to a cancerous state ever since then.

Didn't really need to do that.

>>36333213
Isn't that the same as NatSoc, or are you more of a SocNat? Is there a difference between the two?

>>36333297
>old ways are very primitive
What do you define as the old ways? What era?

Whatever fucks up normie life the most.

I'm rich so whatever it is doesn't really affect me.

>>36333341
Before the Enlightenment with autocratic monarchies and things of that nature. I consider far right reactionaries to be of the status quo and therefore the same as the royal autocrats from the history textbooks.

>>36333395
This is where the disconnect is. I assume you're non american. To me, an American, the status quo would be anytime from the conception of the country up until the social movements of the 1960s. The time where judeo christian values dictated common thought, before hippie degeneracy

>>36333119
for me i just give up reading at a certain point in my interest of political-ness. never been able to say i gave enough of a shit

>>36333119
Neoliberalism. We win anyways.

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>>36333482
I am American but I generally put things on a wider timeline when talking about political history, and how ideologies developed and such.

Also there is nothing wrong with "degeneracy", its their life, they can do whatever they want with it. Even I would pleasure myself with drugs if I had enough money and time to do it.

>>36333521
Ah yes, a true apolitical. I knew a British person who lied to us that he was apolitical and then remarked that he hated Drumpf and wanted him assassinated.

I mean, if you're going to be apolitical, you really should shutup about politics. Why are Britons so absentminded? Thank Jove we separated from them.

>>36333119
National Socialist skinhead

>>36333552
Too bad a neocon won.

>>36333176
>, I voted for Drumpf during this election cycle.


why

>>36333658
>Also there is nothing wrong with "degeneracy", its their life, they can do whatever they want with it. Even I would pleasure myself with drugs if I had enough money and time to do it.

That's such a pathetic way to think about life. To normalize drug use and justify it with "pleasure". Simple releases. I admire discipline and restraint, not mindless indulgence. And I think if more people were like me, the world would be infinitely better

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>>36333768
To troll neoliberals, why else? And it's not like you can fluster neocons by voting in liberals, they'll just sink into disappointment and won't even bother turning crazy.

I used to believe in the ability of people to reorganize society into something fairer and more efficient, toward the left end of the libertarian and technocratic ideals of the pre-OWS internet. OWS and the Arab Spring were harsh reality checks on those ideas.

Still, at some level my idea of what is worth believing in hasn't changed much, which is why I'm repulsed by the current identity-obsessed political environment. Saying that you aspire to a better world while strongly coupling your politics to a religion, gender, nationality, race, whatever, is self delusion. Even the successful civil rights movements in the US were clear about their goals to transcend and unify. Somehow we've gotten to a point where very few serious political activists don't view one or more identity groups as a problem. It's another round of discouraging events.

>>36333785
If the world thought like you, it would besiege itself with endless crusades and no time to recover. It's better if we keep you in check, warmongers like you wouldn't give me time to do things.

>>36333119
Was a social democrat until recently, but lately I've been growing more conservative and have come to embrace capitalism and meritocracy, whilst also supporting the rights of the individual

>>36333890
The fuck are you talking about, crusades and warmongering? I'm talking about the danger of drugs

>>36333938
Exactly, if people aren't given their free time to do things they want and always restrain themselves, how exactly are they supposed to enjoy life? You're just embittering them to turn into ISIS-like spergs.

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>>36333119
Liberal leftist, though I'm pretty close to center. I don't really give a shit about politics anymore after the 2016 election. Really got me to hate the far right just as much as I hated the far left around the Gamergate times. Honestly, I'm just tired of the bullshit and want everyone to stop calling everyone buzzwords like children and actually working on getting something worthwhile done. I swear if I hear SJW, Alt-right, libcuck, conservitard or any other easy insult bullshit one more fucking time I'm gonna kill a nigga, row a canoe to the Mariana Trench and then shoot the fucking canoe.

>>36333968
People shouldn't feel the need to indulge in drugs to enjoy life, the fact that people use it as a crutch for pleasure is a testament to its harmfulness

Ideologically libertarian or even anarchist but I don't agree with the NAP, but situationally fascist because leftists are a big problem.

Basically blue when you step on snek, purple otherwise

>>36334045
If people cannot enjoy themselves one way or the other and cannot help themselves, I think people should be able to use drugs to atleast satisfy themselves in this world. Either that or euthanasia. You don't rly seem like a robot tbqh.

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>>36333119
I am a left leaning Centrist.

>>36334131
If people can't enjoy life without drugs they should just die

>>36334152
Truly, an intelligent individual, unlike all of these rightwing bigots!

>>36334163
Well it's their choice, not yours.

Anarcho-capitalist.

I enjoy lording myself over others by pretending I have stronger moral character, and I love the idea of people suffering for breaking my rules.

I'm the type of guy who would rather be in full control of Hell than to spend time in Heaven, and I think it would be amazing to have such a chaotic, and yet immeasurably righteous ideology infest the Earth.

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>>36334188
This. The right is full of big poopy headed racists.

>>36334226
I partly like ancap because of the aesthetic desu. Dystopian cyperpunk city-states or large lawless territories reminiscent of the wild west sound pretty cool.

>>36334218
When they buy drugs they fund the destructive drug market which ruins lives and families so yes all drug addicts should be slaughtered along with drug dealers. Duterte has it right

I'm a revolutionary socialist, but, since Americans are awful and I've become a bitter cynic as I've gotten older (and the world trends rightward), I just kinda want to see everything burn down.

The worst bit of knowledge is that there is no law of nature requiring the world be this capitalist hell, but all these problems are ones we've made for ourselves.

Maybe at least I'll get to kick some fascist teeth in before I'm an old man.

>>36333119
kinda leaning towards communism but i still support individuality. worst problems communism had were that workforce could not be replaced and there wasn't enough resources. i believe that humans will be able to produce nearly infinite amounts of food, energy and other resources. this will eliminate the need for money because there is enough for everybody.

>>36334284
>and the world trends rightward

do self pitying lefitst faggots think this? the world skews left every passing day, social justice is the new normal

>>36333119
>For example, if I was rich, I would support capitalism, and oppress poor people.
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>But if I lost all my money, I would instantly backstab that belief for socialism, and "support" poor people.

This is pretty much the default normie political position.

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I apparently sit here on the political spectrum.

People generally think my views are rather extreme when I speak to them about politics, so I'm surprised I'm that near the centre.

>>36334414
that's not the center, that's called progressivism

>>36333119
Racist traditionalist. I don't care about economics, I just fucking hate niggers, faggots, and immigrants.

>>36334276
Drug markets aren't destructive as they help drug dealers and their families. The drug addict is simply choosing to live his life as is, if you can't accept them for whom they are, you're not worthy of being a true human being.

>>36334226
>I'm the type of guy who would rather in full control of Hell than to spend time in Heaven
"Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven." - John Milton

You should read Paradise Lost, you'd like it.

>>36334284
USA is going to kill itself in 12 years, no need to worry about that. All great empires usually die at around their 250th year. USA is right now on its 238th mark, I believe.

I also loathe this country, partly because of your reasons.

Don't rly like corporations fucking up my food and stuff, putting corn starch and sugar bullshit in there. Really don't like that.

>>36334355
not who you replied to but electoral politics in the west has an indisputable rightward trend. far right parties are performing better than usual across europe, USA just flipped from centre left to centre right, and the radical left can't seem to get traction against the centre to centre left anywhere but greece and spain, despite years of economic hardship under centrist rule.

then you look at latin america, where both the old fashioned communists (venezuela) and social democrats (brazil) are facing defeat at the hands of neoliberals. Young people in East Asia can't seem to find any political voice thanks to the region's demographics. That just leaves fucked up parts of the world where "race wars" are actually happening, by my estimation. It's a pretty bad time to be a radical leftist.

>>36334276
Wrong, those people chose to ruin their lives and families. Me buying weed from some guy doesn't 'make' anyone else do anything.

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>>36334226
>I'm the type of guy who would rather be in full control of Hell than to spend time in Heaven
The most unironically edgy thing I've heard all year, congrats

>>36334504
Well it seems we've reached an impasse here. Nice arguing with you tho.

>>36334425
>progressivism
How the fuck did I end up there?

I'm quite unironically a fascist.

>>36334041
you are a disgrace to the left pls do not identify yourself at one of us

>>36334611
How can he be on the left when he's close to the center?

far left i'd guess. mad?

>>36334611
I'm a disgrace to a lot of shit. I don't give a fuck, nigga.

>>36334687
OP here, not rly. I've experienced enough /pol/ to understand that you're less of a cancer than they are.

Altho, that's not rly saying much.

I wish we could just have a civil war to sort this shit out.

paleocon I guess. not quite /pol/-tier but not a mainstream conservative either

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>>36334500

What the fuck does this speculative word soup even mean? Have any of you even studied the history of politics?

There quite literally is no far right to speak of in the Western world. It's gone. It's done. The West is so hegemonically far-left that "revolutionary socialists" can become delusional enough to think that the """""""far right"""""" is on the rise.

Today's far right are fucking revolutionary liberals only a half-century ago. There is no active right wing governments or even quasi-fascistic governments in the West right now. More than this there is not literally ONE Western country with anything resembling an ideal right-wing economy.

The "far-right" doesn't believe in individual rights as the neocons and neoliberals of today do -- these people for whom the "far-right" label is liberally applied. What we have today is left and less left, with the occasional populist nationalist intonation, which isn't even exclusive to the right.

The closest thing to right that there is in the Western world are groups that are relegated to the absolute fringes, often times arrested for hate speech, hated by both the media and broader society, think Richard Spencer et al.

Read a fucking book you retarded niggers.

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where in the world is ala ara aba

>>36334837
>the far right is not on the rise
Literally everyone and their grandmothers is alt-right these days lad, which is basically the same thing as far-right. Unironic nazism is on a resurgence as well

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>>36333119
I used to be an unironic Nazbol when i was younger.
As i matured and learned more i rejected both Fascism and Communism.
I'm centrist, right liberal leaning. And no, i don't like Ayn Rand. I like Locke and Jefferson

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>tfw too smart for /pol/

>>36335166
A very reasonable transition.

What's your opinion on John Stuart Mill? He criticised hedonism by asserting that there were 'higher pleasures' of learning and such, as opposed to pure materialism, and was also the link between the classical liberalism of Locke and the modern liberalism of today. He argued that the lower classes can have their liberty and freedom of choice impeded by their social circumstances such as poverty, lack of education, and disease

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>>36335166
Tho, i always feel really smug when there's an islamic terror attack and see the ""progressives"" wait a few days before they spout "refugees welcome" again.

>>36335301
I've read "On liberty", and i agree with him that government run education is indoctrination, but that the government should help private education.
My favorite historical ruler of my country is also the one who translated "On liberty"
Tho i haven't read Smith, i've read up on economics.

I sympathize with the pro white right but i don't really care because no matter who is in power, weak and genetically inferior men are always on th bottom and normies and Chads are on the top. Especially in an ideology that openly worships Chadhood.
Besides I am part jewish and will be discarded with all the Goldbergs.

>>36333119
>having political affiliations
politics is concerned with problems of everyone
the fact that you even care about the majority and their problems just shows that you shouldn't be on this board

>>36334355

Have you seen who is President?

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Any lefties here? I got something for ya!

>>36334355

Oh, and SJW's aren't really "leftist" in any real sense, as you'll find they tend to be more concerned with telling people their gender than, for instance, class politics or unionization.

>>36336001
>americans

Yeah, a centrist is your president

>>36333119
>whatever position is largely beneficial to me at a certain point in time.
Same. I can change my political views in a heart beat if I get more benefits.

>>36336043
Why are Americans so stupid?

>>36333119
What's the point? We're going to be outcompeted by actual robots, anyway. All of this bumblefucking about DJFSKL;-selection and marriage doesn't mean shit when you can just splice your baby to be as smart and obedient as you want. It's all a distraction.

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didnt expect to come out on the left side, sjws nowadays make me feel like I'm pretty right winged, when I'm actually not