Why is it that watching videos of young pretty girls doing amateur

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I always wonder why straight guys hate women. It's not like they hate you for being a fag killing all your chances. What do you even hate about them?

I don't hate them

The porn is fine, the intros make me despair. You see some of the most beautiful women you've ever seen, and when they open their mouths it's like a river of shit. It would genuinely make me respect them more if they skipped the talking; desperation is more excusable than retardation.

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Because there is incredible value just right next door but you're inhibited to get a bite.

Because you see a pretty young woman desecrate her body for money while you can get a qt3,14 15/10 virgin gf to calm to watch anime and play vidya with you.

>>36259193
Are you a permavirgin robot or do you get a lot of sex or have a girlfriend?

Because you are kinda gay. You are repressing it so deeply. Your innermost self is filled with hatred for the lie you continue to live.

>>36259161

For me, it was the very idea that these women are so easily giving themselves up to have sex with other guys on camera, while the most women interact with me is giving me grossed out/creeped out looks in public.

>>36259251
The only difference between you and the guy with the camera is money. You could have a hooker with the same looks just as easy. If a whore is what you want a whore is what you shall get.

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>>36259251
>so easily
?

It's not like you can estimate the fraction of good looking people who do it. And even if, it's not for free.
You're just declaring it for wrong because you can't do it/have it.

Such a conservative opinion about morals of sex would have weight if you were in the position to get those girls and still reject it.
So, ironically, this opinion is only a good one if you're Chad :^)

>2017 alledged "robot"
>care about women

t.anon that doesnt want a gf

>>36259161
it's probably envy.
it's totally illogical not to be resentful.

>>36259289

No, those guys in porn are there because they have physical attributes that match what the producers are looking for. Thus they are attractive to women or else would could just immediately get that guy thrown out for another guy who would immediately step up.

>>36259297

What on earth are you talking about? I already told you I'm not in a position to get those women, retard. Doesn't change the fact that they can get sex so easily.

>>36259380
If you are the producer you can pick the attributes of yourself. Ever see those backroomcastingcouch vids? That guy is a fat slob. Pretty girls were still fucking Ron Jeremy as recently as a few years ago. Money makes it happen.

>>36259161
It might have something to do with the toxic narrative of /r9k/
How much time do you waste in this cesspool?

All porn makes female sexuality seem so hateful and cruel. Once you watch enough of it to notice certain patterns, it becomes hard not to hate women.

>>36259443

The woman can always choose to say "no" and they'll get another guy in 1.5 seconds. Many guys in porn are basically Chad-tier, Ron Jeremy is just a jew and women would climb up the porn ladder if they fucked a guy as high status as him.

The porn addict's curse is that you come to hate and mistrust women. When you handle shit, you get shit on you.

>>36259472
What patterns? The only pattern I notice is that they corrupt the intimate act of sex into a shitshow.

>>36259472
The girls that do porn are such a small percentage of the overall population. The patterns in porn represent porn sex. Porn stars are more like athletes. Actual sex that happens in real life is quite different most of the time. It's not so robotic and predetermined. A lot of the time the girls in porn don't even cum. Sometimes your dick isn't enough so you have to turn to your tongue or fingers to get it done. That isn't what porn wants to show you. Porn wants you to think that through vigorous fucking in the same few positions all girls eventually reach climax then get blasted on the face. In reality if you do manage to hit the g spot there's like a narrow window of time, you'll feel it get nice and warm and you'll have to angle yourself just right to rub against it.

>>36259472
>All porn makes female sexuality seem so hateful and cruel

Lol, that is not necessarily porn though. Unless you're into specific fetishes that revolve around that type of stuff, most porn doesn't focus on that. It is actually THIS BOARD that is doing that to your mind.

>>36259496
They aren't going to say no to thousands of dollars. That's what is at play in these kinds of videos. The gdp ones find girls from around the country and fly them out to film in hotels. Backroomcastingcouch is just various sluts from the Phoenix area who have been paid similar sums of money.

>>36259161
How do you feel about the young pretty boys doing porn (heterosexual)?

>>36259472
>All porn makes female sexuality seem so hateful and cruel.
Not true, casual porn has grown tremendously over last few years.

>>36259234
>permavirgin robot
Not in this life anon

Let's just say it's all part of my devil may care personality

>>36259582

It doesn't just revolve around money, there are other factors. Women don't make that much money and they ruin their reputations in the process. But it is what it is and I just have to deal with it.

>>36259811
They make enough to pay for three months of rent. Look at the state of the economy versus what it was ten years ago. For girls on those sites like girlsdoporn and backroomcastingcouch they are getting paid a lot for a one time thing. In mainstream porn they get paid maybe a third of that per scene but they do so many it adds up. But the threshold for a used up porn star isn't what it used to be so you'll see those girls doing gang bangs and blacks in less than a year. It's their last chance to get that big payday before the calls stop coming.

>>36259546
>Actual sex that happens in real life is quite different most of the time. It's not so robotic and predetermined.
HA!
> virgin explains sex
always good for a laugh

>>36260161

Women in the west have prominently been in porn since the "sexual revolution". And since all types of porn exists, all types of women can be in it. Ugly, nerdy, quirky, ginger, whatever. It's a bullshit myth that only hot women can be in there. Porn is for all types of women and many many women go into it.

>>36260202
I'm not a virgin though. Maybe that's how your sex life has been. If so I pity you.

>>36259546
I've had sex before. I think part of the problem is that video as a medium is incapable of communicating the subtle aspects of sex. This requires to exaggerate practically every element of it, most notably the guys dick and the woman's moans.
>>36259552
I'm talking about the most vanilla porn out there. So much of it centers it's plots around adultery and huge dicks. It's sending a clear message that you, the average make, aren't capable of pleasing woman, and they'll hate you for it.

>>36260216
Yeah but they aren't all treated equally. They don't get equal pay. The demand for all types isn't the same. You could probably pay a landwhale with fast food to appear in a scene on your big fat plumpers site. Then once she's done one scene why shoot her again? You can get another fatty just as cheap.

>>36259161
Women are children. They don't know any better.
Your anger is at the globalist media. You're just blaming women because you fear the real enemy.

>>36260281

I agree with you and the other post you made. I think porn is very cheesy and degenerate. Yes, women don't like me anyways so my opinion on sex is irrelevant, but that's still how I think about it.

>>36260312

>Yeah but they aren't all treated equally. They don't get equal pay

But why would they be? That's like saying all hockey players should get paid the same.

>>36260281
That's not the message it's trying to communicate though. You only get that from it if you're jaded and cynical. You're supposed to fantasize that you're the guy, a real life Chad. The fantasy is that every girl will open her legs from you whether she's fresh out of high school, married, stunningly gorgeous, whatever race you find attractive, etc... Robots spend so much time projecting their insecurities on each other that they have come to agree upon an alternative interpretation.

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>tfw you hate women so much that you literally turn gay

It's gonna happen to all of us someday I guess.

>>36260361
Maybe we need to get together and start a niche porn site where hot girls take the virginity of total sperglords.

>>36259161
They are getting money thrown at them for condescending (and when you watch them close you KNOW they feel that way about it, genuine pleasure or good enough acting to fake it are incredibly rare in vids) to do what for us is an urge so great, it may as well be a necessity.

Hard to not resent that on some level.

>>36259380

They're manlets.

Easy to be buff and gain muscle mass and their dicks looks bigger when they're short.

>>36260489

They're not manlets they are mostly average in height sometimes a little taller.

>>36260585
citation needed
most girls in porn are short af so the guys will look tall next to them regardless

>>36260435
Too late, that is already a thing. Watch for shit like "user dates" on camslut sites.

>>36259297
source?

chadbloxx

>>36260617

Maybe I'll blow my brains out with a gun and then you can dissect my brain matter and see if you can read the data in there. It's all in my brain, the memories from watching it.

>>36259161
Because all these life choices they had and they chose porn. This could be a girl from your neighborhood. You could've went to school with this girl. If you were a little bit Chaddier, she could've been your gf. When she's doing porn, it implies she was sucking everyone in school off and you didn't get a piece and that makes you mad. Then you realize that she'll quit porn within a month and go on about how terrible it was and try to act as if she has no agency and didn't choose to get involved in porn. You knew what it was when you signed the contract, sweetie.

>>36260361
Its impossible to do that just because of how unlike the actor you are. It only serves to emphasize your own inadequacy.

>>36260722
The funny thing is as a man who has already had sex I don't feel inadequate at all compared to male porn stars. Most of the time I'm thinking about how bad they are at fucking. Sure they have stamina and can last but they aren't really taking any of the cues from the girl. They just mindlessly pound away. Occasionally you see a guy who knows what he's doing. I pay extra attention when that happens because I might pick something up. Porn is to sex as the WWE is to wrestling. The sex might not be fake, just like the wrestling might not be, but everything is scripted and exaggerated. The girl might cum, just like a wrestler might actually get hurt, but they're actors. Most of the time girls in porn are so emotionally detached they probably don't even care. Where wrestling would differ is kayfabe, it's the most important thing in the world to them.

>>36260706
Just be a whore off camera and act entitled, it'll solve everything

>>36260805

Off topic but realizing how wrestling truly is a performance just made me have that much more appreciation for it. Those guys are amazing. I only watch clips on youtube every now and then these days since pretty much all my favorites have gone.

Why are you so prudish /r9k/?

>>36262051

This is the mother of all rhetorical questions.

>>36262070
I was actually looking for an answer
I can't remember why we're supposed to care

>>36262130

>I can't remember why we're supposed to care

what did you mean by this

>>36262130
you're either new to the internet or new to life, i'm guessing the former, prolly 18 years old tops? read some books, do some research.

>>36259247
but that insinuates that being gay means you hate women and therefore became attracted to men. that's not how sexuality works.

>>36259161
It's likely because of a combination of insecurity and learned helplessnes.

Anger towards the object of our desire is a common defense mechanism when we believe we can't get it. Weird robotheories about purity are just a way to rationalize this. Frankly, it means you think at a lower level of self-consciousness. If you were self-aware of the source of your anger in your desires being frustrated mostly because of things out of your or womens' control (arbitrary contingency of nature and the conditions you were socialized in), you'd be less likely to experience it as strongly, since you would see that it is unjustified and therefore alien to your higher, critical self.

>>36262174
>>36262153
Like i get I remember /r9k/ yes we love pure virgin waifus and we hate degnerate stacy whores but why does it actually matter to anyone
Fear of disease? That's the only big downside I can see to promiscuity.

>>36262270

Disease is one of them, but whoring around is a sign of bad character and I'd rather not be the final guy they settle with after Chad has had his fun with them. So that's your answer.

>>36262051
If I ever get the chance, I will execute every single person who ever used "prude" as a negative term.

>>36262345
Hey, not trying to judge just genuinely looking for answers.

>>36262307
Fair enough anon.

>>36262307
>why is whoring aroun bad?
> because it is a sign of bad character

How excessively unenlightening.

>>36262446
this is what happens when you don't read the thread before you post.

>>36262525
>why is x bad?
>because it's bad
>yeah but why
>READ THE THREAD REEEEEE

>>36262578
the answer is literally 2 posts up, but you're pretending like it's not there.

i'm done with r9k lol.

>>36259161
because they get paid to do what you have to pay money to do.

>>36262642
Because robots are prudes?

>>36259161
OP, pornography is hateful of women because it wants you be hateful of women
if you're hateful of women, you keep consuming porn because porn is the only contact you want or can have with women
they're fleecing you

>>36262642
You didn't define what bad character is, so he's accusing you of circular reasoning.

>>36262446
>>36262670

Yes, I do see it as a sign of bad character when women whore around. Low impulse control, little to no self-control. I could always use the religion card but I'll save that for now. Every slut I've ever known in real life was just a horrible person. And I'm not the guy at the end of the line after Chad's had his fun.

Why do you even care anyways? You can always just call me an unwanted neckbeard and that will end the argument as far as people like you are concerned.

>>36262707
hm, lets see. Victorian Era, Christian values and morals, the Amish, American religious culture, any of these ringing any fucking bells to this new fag???

like i said, read some books, do some research.

>>36259161
because those "amateur girls" are probably just normal party-sluts, not porn actors, or anything fancy.
probably someones oneitis at one point
and you're such a fucking loser you'd rather be angry at a girl for letting someone record them fucking her than go out and do something besides jack off and post on a korean basketweaving forum

>>36262719
>not the guy at the end of the line
What are you worried about? Roastie is just a meme in my experience and whatever you're packing is really not an issue if you just get some experience using it.

>>36262756
What do you want him to do, exactly? Save the world by catching a girl as his own before she ever has sex, then make a morally righteous family with her?

>>36262811
fuck sluts and quit being an emo bitch about it on the internet? lmao

>>36262829
sounds like a macho sociopath.
LETS FUCK SLUTS BRO!!!! YEEEEEAHHH!!!!!!

heh heh heh... sluts... derp.

>>36262755
The Victorians lived like slaves under oppressive aristocratic rule and should not be venerated in any way.

>>36262788

Nope, I'm not going to be the guy they finally settle for after they've had their fun.

If you're so concerned about "prudes", why can't you just go away? Prudes existing don't harm you in any way, and they don't harm women as a whole.

>>36262856
at least macho sociopaths dont act like emo bitches on the internet and are capable of social interaction in the real world, unlike robots

>>36262857
oh my god, take the goal post you're moving and shove it up your homo ass, okay, the conversation is over.

>>36262719
>Low impulse control, little to no self-control.
Why would it be because of low self-control and not simply their idea of the good life? Is a woman whoring around showcasing bad character in exactly the same way as a basement dweller that plays vidya all day? It seems to me, as one of the latter, that I'm not doing it because I can't control my tendency to play vidya, but because I enjoy it and my enjoyment of it is overriding compared to the downsides.

My point is that when you're saying women who sleep around showcase lack of self-control, you're already supposing sleeping around to be something bad as such, hence something that can't be their critical interest, hence something that they can only be doing because they can't control a tendency to do it, though they'd want to. But there is no reason to make any of these suppositions.

>I could always use the religion card

It's not a very good card to play desu

>Every slut I've ever known in real life was just a horrible person.

In what way were they horrible persons? The sluts where the only people not bullying me in high school, so perhaps my experience colours my judgment.

>And I'm not the guy at the end of the line

I don't see the problem with this to be perfectly honest.

>Why do you even care anyways?

Normative ethics are my hobby and you're talking about virtue.

>>36262885
first of all, "robots" is an internet meme. second, you both look like faggots, so there is no contest. macho sociopaths run rampant outside, emo bitches run rampant on the internet, whats the difference, pick your poison, the kettle and pot are both black.

>>36262887
Admittedly a tangent, but you should stop getting so hung up on /r9k/
I'm not trying to argue m8

>>36262917
This Kettle isn't an obese fuck that's never kissed a girl and has a make believe chinese cartoon girlfriend tho

>>36262933
i said the conversation is over already. stop responding.

>>36262949
you just like, made all that up bro, but whatever. half the posers on r9k are pale ghost lanklettes, but yeah, keep pushing the neckbeard meme.

>>36262865
I will say that the settling argument is convincing, I can understand the importance in wanting someone who want you for who you are and not how much money you make or how reliable you are.
I'm not concerned, just curious. I was the same way a while back and i don't know what really changed my mind.

>>36262978
whatever you say
if you can find your dick thru all those folds of fat ill give u $1 lol

>>36262958
Do you really need to have the last word? Chill out man, this will be my last post. Somebody else will jump on this chain though, purely because you are are making yourself an easy target.

>>36262895
>>36262980

Why are you both so concerned about this? I'm not going to date or marry a slut and there's nothing either of you can do about that. I'm not the guy they finally settle down with after Chad has had his fun. I already gave my reasons, but I don't even need to justify my reasons.

>>36263094
This board is just for chatting with anons.
Why are you so defensive? Nobody is accusing you of anything or trying to change your mind.

>>36263045
you should chill because you're talking about last words, last posts and people jumping on this like we're have an epic convo, we're not.
how do i get involved in these gay ass conversations, jesus christ.

>>36263010
>herp derp lol

>>36263119

I have two people trying to have sophisticated debates with me because I don't want to be with a slut. Especially this person >>36262895 who just sperged out all over the page.

This isn't Reddit where I need to defend not being a cuck. I can not date a slut just like a woman can not date a neckbeard.

>>36263094
>Why are you both so concerned about this?
>>36262895
>Normative ethics are my hobby and you're talking about virtue.

>I'm not going to date or marry a slut

I don't care anon. I'm interested in your reasoning because I think it's trash, but nevertheless I firmly believe people should be able to live the form of life that they endorse, even when that is stupid, just insofar as it it is compattible with the same capacity of others, which not dating sluts is. Your preference, as a non-cognitive state, is not something I can argue against, it is not truth-or-false-apt, because it's a desire-like mental state. It's therefore never valid or invalid. I'm only interested in the rationalization you're sprinkling on top.

>I don't even need to justify my reasons.

A valid justification just is a normative reason, and we're waiting on that.

>>36263143
>This isn't Reddit where I need to defend not being a cuck.

Not defending your opinions but ascribing them to common sense and pretending they are self-evident is basically the normieest shit.

>>36263178

I don't need to justify my reasons because I do what I want. But I already explained to you my reasons. I can name them off again so you can greentext them one by one like an autist, but you can just go through the thread again if you need to.

And if you didn't care, you wouldn't be replying. Why don't you just call me an unwanted neckbeard so we can close this sequence?

>>36263206

I already gave you all my reasons. The only reasoning you had was "hurr durr why not anon" which is not valid reasoning.

>>36263206
not the guy you're talking to, but tone down the know-it-all attitude and maybe you can have conversations with people.

before you post, tell yourself that you don't know everything, then post.

>>36263218
>I don't need to justify my reasons
>I don't need to justify my valid justifications for action

A reason just is a valid justification, anon.

>And if you didn't care, you wouldn't be replying.

I didn't say I don't care in general. I said I don't care about the kind of life you want to live specifically. I obviously care about the conversation.

>Why don't you just call me an unwanted neckbeard

I think this is an expression of your insecurity. I have no reason to insult you.

>The only reasoning you had was "hurr durr why not anon"

You said that doing x shows lack of self-control. I explained that it doesn't and asked if your idea of a lack of self-control would also apply to someone playing vidya all day. I asked this to clarify the issue. It is my view that you don't believe this, and even if you did, you wouldn't resent basement dwellers in the same way that you resent promiscuous women. In my view this shows that something else is the problem and the whole "lack of self-control" thing is a red herring.

>>36263341

But I do what I want. So if I don't want to date a slut, I won't, regardless of what you or anyone says otherwise.

>I think this is an expression of your insecurity. I have no reason to insult you

My point was that you could always just say women don't want me and that would be the end of it. Women don't care about my opinion on this, I never expected them to.

>You said that doing x shows lack of self-control. I explained that it doesn't

I said that having lots of sex shows lack of self-control and you threw greentext and snarky denial at me.

>if your idea of a lack of self-control would also apply to someone playing vidya all day

It does, I don't play video games anymore. I just have no reason to care about basement dwellers.

>>36262221

No I hate women cuz they r sluts!

>>36263403
>But I do what I want. So if I don't want to date a slut, I won't, regardless of what you or anyone says otherwise.
We've kind of established that.

>My point was that you could always just say women don't want me and that would be the end of it.

Eh, we could still ask why they don't want you if that was the case that they didn't. There's not much to say if it's an issue of attraction, but we could discuss more about if they rejected you because they thought you were not virtuous.

>I said that having lots of sex shows lack of self-control

I didn't respond to this with greentext. I argued that having lots of sex doesn't necessarilly show a lack of self-control, unless you presuppose that having sex is something that someone would rationally want to moderate and therefore if they didn't, that would be because of weakness of will. But, I asked, what if they have reflected on it and they don't think they should moderate it. It's not that they can't control their inclination to have sex though they want to, it's that having lots of sex is their critical interest. Do you still have a problem with a person like that? If so, what is it? Because they clearly don't have an issue with self-control. They have a different idea of the good.

>It does, I don't play video games anymore.

That's sad, but consistent.

>>36259161
because that is a natural reaction, but you have been brainwashed into thinking you should enjoy seeing it. took me a while, and while i still go on binges from time to time, porn is a fucked industry. we just live in a time where we have vices pushed on us from every angle, and we are told that isn't the case. normalizing these vices even when they are carried out in excess will slowly destroy you, which is why they are vices.

>>36263533

>
Eh, we could still ask why they don't want you if that was the case that they didn't. There's not much to say if it's an issue of attraction, but we could discuss more about if they rejected you because they thought you were not virtuous.

You know very well that the unwanted neckbeard argument is often used against guys when it's convenient to do so.

>I didn't respond to this with greentext
> that having sex is something that someone would rationally want to moderate and therefore if they didn't, that would be because of weakness of will
> But, I asked, what if they have reflected on it and they don't think they should moderate it. It's not that they can't control their inclination to have sex though they want to, it's that having lots of sex is their critical interest. Do you still have a problem with a person like that?

Yeah, the autism quotes I don't like. But yes, I still would have a problem with that. There is absolutely no reason I should have to date a slut, especially when I think they are have low-impulse control and are terrible people with no morals. Why does it matter to you if I personally blacklist these people in my own mind? It won't matter to them.

They have a different idea of the good but it's not compatible with mine, and you are insisting I need to change my good to match with theirs, and I won't do that.

You need to find a hobby instead of trying to force guys on the internet to date sluts.

>>36263639
>You know very well that the unwanted neckbeard argument is often used against guys when it's convenient to do so.

Yeah, but not by me.

>There is absolutely no reason I should have to date a slut

I think you are misunderstanding my angle here. I think whiskey is disgusting. This does not mean that people should be stopped from drinking whiskey. I also think vodka is great and if someone thought otherwise, I'd tell them they are wrong. This also doesn't mean they should be forced to drink vodka.

This is the kind of discussion we're having. You say sluts have low self-control, are bad persons and you imply that having lots of sex is a vice. I disagree with all of these assertions. This doesn't meant that you have to date sluts, even if I am right and you are wrong, you can still have your preferences. You will simply be more clear about the reason you have these preferences and, additionally, you will be able to disentangle your preference not to date sluts, from hatred of sluts. You can think sluts are ok people and their good is valid without having to date them, just like I can think that someone listening to Mahler isn't a bad person and his idea of the good is valid, even though I loathe and would never willingly spend time listening to Mahler.

>>36259161
cute feet
would lick

>>36259161
> pretty girls
> ''''amateur'''' porn
> done fapping

It's a fucking joke, how do you fap to that? How do you even feel anything about it?

If you mentioned stolen private shots, I would understand.

>>36263798

>I think you are misunderstanding my angle here
>This also doesn't mean they should be forced to drink vodka
>You say sluts have low self-control, are bad persons and you imply that having lots of sex is a vice
>You can think sluts are ok people and their good is valid without having to date them

Me thinking sluts are not good people is why I won't date them though. I understand where you're coming from on this but you are basically saying that my reasoning is not valid but yours is. Based on what? I gave my reasons.

I do think sluts are bad people, but I don't believe in censorship or attacking them for it. On the other hand, a woman could say she doesn't want to date a neckbeard just because, and I would support her freedom, because there is no reason for me not to support her freedom. The neckbeard(s) may be upset, but we don't always get what we want in life.

I don't go around hating sluts or launching campaigns against them, that's more of a /pol/ thing.

I don't care about basement dwelling guys because they have no bearing on this topic or my life at all.

>>36263896
That's mostly fair. But I don't think proving sluts are ok people would just change your preference for not dating them. It's more likely that there is some other more fundamental reason you don't want to date them which would persist.

>>36262209
People say stupid stuff like that. I once saw a guy try to argue that because someone thought women were boring that he must be gay. He further tried to argue that you can have sex with them and make children...making them not boring somehow?

>>36263989

I don't agree with the lifestyles they live and hence by association I don't think they are good people.

It's like a basement dweller guy who harasses people online. He is bad for that reason but he may have some other good qualities about him, but still, he's bad.

I mean I knew a slut a few years ago who volunteered at an animal shelter and would make small talk with me but despite doing those things that still doesn't make her dating material in my mind because she's a slut even though she did do some good things.

And they don't care anyways so it doesn't matter.

>>36259546
>not doing speed to cure his performance anxiety

dass where u fucced up boi

I really fucking hate pakis, lads.