Who /secondwave/ and /radfem/ here? TERFs only. Here's

I cringed hard.

Women need men. You have rape fantasies lol.

>>36074613
Nobody cares, cunt. Radfems don't know anything about being transgender. They are all obsessed with chicks with dicks

>>36074691

>women need men, so it doesn't matter how many injustices are carried out against women

>men need women so it's fine when women accuse them of false rape

Nice nuanced sociological theory.

Finally, someone to educate these degenerates that think being trans is a real thing.

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>>36074691
I don't have rape fantasies. jej.

>>36074858

You're not me. I'm the OP, and I'm not a homosexual or a woman.

>>36074891
Do you fantasize about being the rapist? Or the victim?

>male terf

Bye

>>36075025

I don't fantasize about rape at all. Not because I have strong moral feelings about rape, because I don't, rape just doesn't do anything for me.

>>36074891
Men can't be feminists especially radical feminists

>>36075051
You can't be a feminist without a moral compass that lets you know that rape is wrong.

>>36075051
>Not because I have strong moral feelings about rape
kek

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>>36074613
Feminists often make me laugh. Their social theories are always riddled with cognitive dissonance and glaring biased assumptions, but on of that their social theories are not even social theories, but rather social statements with no observational or hard scientific evidence to back up what they're saying except for a few discredited articles written in 90s at best.

Reminder that TERFs are not only morally bankrupt, empathically bankrupt and incapable of sympathy for anyone other than their fellow TERFs (yes, my own mother disowned her entire family because nobody accepted her radfem ideologies which she wouldn't ever shut up about), but they're also plain ignorant and delusional, usually coming from a humanities background that doesn't place too much empathise on analytical skills.

I've never met a TERF who studies a STEM subject, I wonder why?

>>36074613
terfs are fucking retards. you somehow manage to be even worse than typical feminists and that's really saying something.

>>36074613
this triggers the alt-right tranny-lovers on so many levels


keep fighting the good fight OP

>>36074891
Men can't be feminists. You've never experienced the patriarchy, you've never experienced sexism, you've been privileged your entire life, and like all men you think you can just appropriate other people's genuine struggles and hardships because it's the new big thing? At best you can be a silent drone who listens eagerly to what real victims have to say, a feminist sympathiser and that's it. You have no right to call yourself a feminist.

You're even worse than trannies who are deluded enough to think that they're women.

>>36075232
That's like saying someone can't support a free Tibet or a free Palestine because they're not natives of those places.

You can definitely support the cause. It's called being an ally.

>>36075142

You're not actually expecting "hard scientific evidence" for these types of claims, because you know whether it were the case or not, no evidence of this type could be produced in the sciences are they are. Materialistic evidence for the specifics of how people think and how people feel does not really exist.

However, it's clear that people don't need "hard scientific evidence" in order to understand one another and relate to one another. If you think something is untrue, fine, but asking for materialistic evidence in a non-materialistic subject is ridiculous.

>>36075232

Men can be feminists, they just can't be feminists in the same way that women are feminists. Similarly, you can be a conservative in your actions despite being a socialist in your thoughts.

>>36074613
We don't call ourselves TERFs.

As soon as it starts being something other than flipping the power dynamic, I'll be on board.

Otherwise, it's easy to see through the PoMo, unfalsifiable drivel that all sounds, reads and screams the same.

I just don't like hypocrisy.

If you want to eradicate gender norms don't pick and choose those that you like.

If you want a more traditional arrangement, that's fine by me as well.

>>36074613

>Look dad, I created word salad. Do you love me yet?

>>36075602

Would you tell that to women in Saudi Arabia?

>>36074613

>Who /secondwave/ and /radfem/ here?

Literally nobody. And if you are, RAUS RAUS RAUS NOW!!! This is for robots, men rejected by society trying to piece together a community. You are not welcome, you are the same cancerous moron scum that kills more of us every day.

tfw my gf is a Republican, but has some /secondwave/ ideals, and likes do dominate me. tfw she's literally the man in the relationship and we're both okay with that

>>36075361
Exactly exactly exactly.

They can be a feminist ally, someone who listens to and obeys the discourse of feminist, but for them to actually be a feminist and making their own contributions is sheer ludicrous. What the average privileged first worlder know about the struggles of those who live in a third world shithole? Equally, what could a man know about the struggles faced by women, other than what they've been told by those who know better?

>>36075395
read above faggot

>>36075712

If you're defining feminism as a study of the struggles faced by women, the perspective of men towards women, who make them struggle, is valuable----if only to better know their enemy.

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Yet to meet a "feminist" who says, "I ok with dating a shorter man because I don't care about society imposing the rule that man should be taller".

>>36075712
>What the average privileged first worlder know about the struggles of those who live in a third world shithole? Equally, what could a man know about the struggles faced by women,

Well the point about supporting any sort of cause is being there to learn about it and listen to people who have lived it or live in it.

They know enough to care and support to cause, and are willing and able to learn more from those who a a direct part of it.

It's called solidarity.

If everyone just stuck to their own personal issues that only applied to them, nothing would ever get accomplished in terms of social progress.

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If you are a fembot and a feminists, why even come to /r9k/ in the first place?

>>36075660

I couldn't give less of a shit about the women in SA. They are some of the cruellest people on the planet. Go see how they treat their slaves (yes as in REAL FUCKING SLAVES) that they kidnapped from South Asia. They throw boiling water and acid onto them for minor offences.

Guess how much of a shit I give about them being forced to wear a veil?

>>36075767

Women don't want to date men they're not attracted to. Tough shit. Men don't want to date women they're not attracted to either.

If you want something to be against for this, be against life as a whole.

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FUCK OFF YOU STUPID BITCH

DUMPING

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>>36075859
FUCK FEMINISM YOU DUMB WHORE

>>36075841

It's a gender norm, not "though shit". It's not like there is anything so fucking bad with short men. It's just like how dating a black man was and pretty much still is considered taboo amongst a lot of women. It's not attraction. It's social pressure telling them that is it wrong.

You're just a hypocrite.

>>36074613
I fucks with TERFS. How anyone can be ok with a bunch of dudes masquerading as women and forcing themselves into womens bathrooms, while at the same time yelling about how gender has nothing to do with genitalia is beyond me. Anyone who supports the delusions of a tranny is just too cucked to voice reason.

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>>36075878
I FUCKING HATE THE ROBOT AND FEMINISM

>>36075891
>It's just like how dating a black man was and pretty much still is considered taboo amongst a lot of women. It's not attraction. It's social pressure telling them that is it wrong.

That's a good thing.

You are obviously an asian male, lol.

>>36074613
Lolcow out pIs

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>>36075925
LEAVE BOYS ALONE YOU FEMINISTS

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>>36075952
TRY WORKING IN A SEWER

>>36074613
fuck off

oreg

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>>36075967
APPRECIATE WHAT MEN HAVE DONE FOR YOU

>>36075841

>>Women don't want to date men they're not attracted to. Tough shit. Men don't want to date women they're not attracted to either.
>implying it's the same
>implying women don't reject short men simply because other women tell them too because "it's not supposed to be" i.e. muh gender norms
>implying men pressure each other not to date women "because it's not proper"

Also when I eventually found women who didn't mind, turns out they were the kind of women who thought modern society was degenerate in part due to feminism and pretty much everything that happened after the 60s. Turns out it was this degenerate culture telling women, that short men are unattractive and women who were naturally sceptical of this degeneracy didn't mind at all.

>>36075967
>Somehow this negates the fact that women took over the jobs men left and worked their asses off in factories
This pic is pretty retarded and so are you.

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>>36075979
THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING A WHITE MALE

TRANS WOMEN ARE WOMEN

>>36075923
>I fucks with

stop talking like a nigger anon

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>>36076004
>picks the low hanging fruit of all the images I've posted

typical dumbshit liberal. Fuck off Jew

>>36076006
WOMEN SHOULDNT FIGHT IN WARS

>>36075891

Women like markers of physical prowess and health, and short men evoke weakness. It's not just a gender norm.

>>36076014
They're men with mental illnesses and this will never change no matter how much wishful thinking you do

>treating women equally so that they can reject you when you fall in love with them

hahaha, you think I'm so foolish?

the only women who will ever get respect from me:

>my mother
>my sister
>my gf, after she proves herself

Fuck all of you other roasties. I couldn't give less of a shit about you and especially in my workplace you are the biggest of cancers and pretty much all men hate you.

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>>36076038
FEMINISM = FASCISM

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>>36076080
FEMINISM IS A HATE MOVEMENT

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>>36076094
>single mothers

DONT SETTLE FOR A SINGLE MOM

>>36076054

According to feminism, women don't need men and can do everything by themselves and they don't need men to be physically stronger than them.

>>36076038
Women should not be put in primary combat roles. They should be in support positions. Them being a part of convoys is fine imo, but shouldn't make up a large percentage. Also a problem with deploying women is massive amounts of sexual assaults and women feeling like they have to stay quite or else no guy will watch their back.

You still posted a retarded ass image, faggot

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>want to have a genuine discussion with OP
>know that it'll just devolve into "trannies r degerites, dis is madness!!!1" and other small minded arguments

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>>36076118
DONT FALL FOR THE MOTTE AND BAILEY ARGUMENTS

>>36076127
women have been in support positions in the army forever, as nurses and shit. They should NOT be included in any other way.

>they have to stay quite or else no guy will watch their back
this is the dumbest thing I have ever read in my entire life

Typical feminist cunt

>preaches feminism to robots who never get to see a wet pussy
>goes on Tinder hookups with chauvinistic Chads that wear MAGA hats and treat her like a cocksleeve
>expects robot to treat her as an equal

We have dignity, you know? We have some sense of self worth? We might not be built like Chad, but we aren't going to act like doormats for your kind. Fuck you.

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>>36076182
OH YOU DONT WANNA DIE IN TRENCHES TOO BAD COWARD

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>>36076205
FEMINISM HAS ~ALWAYS~ BEEN CANCER

>>36076161

Aren't you doing exactly that to me in your post right now?

>>36076182
>this is the dumbest thing I have ever read in my entire life
Faggot it's heavily documented. Spergs like you are embarrassing, so obsessed with hating muh roasties.

>>36074613
Christ, learn how to write. Did you even reread this bullshit? Be concise. Stop breaking sentence flow with random clauses interspersed within them.

Secondly thanks for telling me how I think. You think I like women in a specific dress because I want to be them, so that I could fuck more women? How does that make sense in your head?

>>36076228
It would be if we had bothered to initiate a discourse first, but I'm not interested in wasting either of our time which is the whole point of the post in the first place

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>>36076226
DONT GENERALIZE ALL MEN AS RAPISTS

>>36076233
than post a source instead of being a waste of space. Either that or go back to redshit. No one wants you on /r9k/

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Lol u guys are losers

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>>36076275
A NICE GRAPH OF STATISTICS

>>36075395
>Similarly, you can be a conservative in your actions despite being a socialist in your thoughts.

What nigga? Did you know 2+2=5?

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>>36076295
>muh you guys r virgins
>muh you guys are losers
>muh man up

you must go back

>>36076275
>DONT GENERALIZE ALL MEN AS RAPISTS
I'll do that when you stop raping

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>>36076324
SIMILAR SINGLE CUNT STATISTICS

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@36076334
not even worth a (You), try better next time

>>36076339
DONT FALL FOR THE SOCIAL JUSTICE MEME

>>36076264

>You think I like women in a specific dress because I want to be them, so that I could fuck more women? How does that make sense in your head?

No retard. You don't want to literally be them, you want to wield the same perceived power over others that these women wield over you.

>>36076275
>Cmon bro spoon feed me

kek nah, you can learn about it the same way I did: GOOGLE.

Or just keep being a faggot and posting your images, we all know how happy it makes you

Can someone ban this angry virgin manlet spamming my thread?

>>36076317

That statement makes sense. You're the one that is retarded. Not even that dude. Just supporting him because logic.

>>36076412

I'm not the one spamming your thread.

Also please do keep showing yourself for what you truly are, you cruel hateful creature.

Why do TERFs care? Every TERF I've asked in real life either said "it's the truth" (which is missing the whole point of my original question), "trannies are appropriating femininity/feminism" (which is incredibly childish and silly), "trannies are disgusting" (which instantly drops their credibility below the floor) or that trannies are hurting themselves, which is partially true but I disagree with on moral levels and because I believe that dysphoria exists and cannot be cured without gender transition.

Well OP, why do you care about trans people? Why not just leave them to their own devices?

>>36076369
alright im bored so im done dumping

>>36076399
if you make a claim and then refuse to provide proof, why the fuck should I even listen to you? Its not spoonfeeding its actually providing evidence for the dumb shit you say. Now get the fuck out of /r9k/

>>36076324
Nah my post was directed at OP

>>36076480
Oh okay, well I apologize then

>>36076391
No, I want to fuck that women who looks attractive in that dress. Men gain power in a very different way, money. I can only speak from personal experience because unlike you I won't try to assume what goes thru the head of other people. But I have never fantasize about have power over people by being sexual attractive to them. I do fantasize about ruling a nation or being obscenely rich.

Maybe men just like looking at women and certain clothes make women more interesting to look at. But NOOOO it must be that men all want to be pretty women.

>>36076477
It is spoon feeding.
You refuse to look up anything than can go against your point of view. That's how fag bois like you operate, just sit on here spamming your pics and reinforcing what you already believe. It shows how stupid you are

>>36076465

I think it's largely symptomatic of a fetishization of the platonic ideal of femininity perpetrated by men. Personally I don't care that much about men pretending to be women, I just see it as a particularly dysfunctional and grotesque example of how men relate to women. However, I do not like the fact that feminism is being co-opted by these progressive lunatics who make people reactionary against everything feminism has been associated with.

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>>36076597
I'll repeat this again since you don't seem to understand the basic premise

>provide evidence for the things that you say

if you can not do that, then FUCK OFF. I'd be perfectly happy to read whatever you can find on the particular topic but aparently you can't provide any evidence, which leads me to believe that you are making shit up. So please, provide me with some good sources on women being ignored in the military/ I can provide evidence of men being fucked over by women being in the military, but you haven't provided SHIT.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/420826/women-in-combat-military-effectiveness-deadly-pentagon

>be me
>transition because I feel like it
>magnitudes happier living as female than as male
>mom occasionally calls me to tell me that I'm a AGP freak and that no woman will ever love me, and that she's devised an amazing theory which basically proves trannies are liars
>don't care, have a bf and am working towards getting my physics Ph.D

It doesn't matter to me if being a tranny a mental illness (I wouldn't see why it would matter if it was, the point is that it's supposed to be incurable)/AGP, I'm personally happier this way and honestly the social sciences bore the heck out of me. I quickly realised asking if someone is trans is pointless, asking if they'll be happier living as a woman is all that matters at the end of the day.

Femanon here.

Don't listen to this loonie. Most women will never associate themselves with these retards. We don't want anything to do with them. We understand that men are better at some thing and women are better at others and we understand that we have a role to play in society that is different from that of men. Heck, many of my friends don't even aspire to have careers any more, even though they went to college.

>>36076192
All Chads should be killed. All alpha males should be killed.
Look at this baboon tribe. The aggressive alpha males died from eating poisoned food. Now the remaining baboons live completely peaceful lives.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q-bB-qywJ0

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>>36076817
This, HuffPo even put out a poll and only like 20-25% of women consider themselves feminists

Even now, there is hope for man

>>36076572

I'll break it down for you:

>You want to fuck
>You want to fuck women who look attractive
>You want to fuck women who look attractive in dresses
>You are familiar with your own experience of wanting to fuck women who look attractive in dresses
>Because you want to fuck, you like the idea of having easier access to fucking
>Dresses are a symbol of easy access to fucking, as evidenced by your own experiences of willingness to fuck women in dresses

It's not about the dress specifically, it's about how the dress makes you feel, and how you assume you'd be treated if other people felt the same way about you.

>>36076748
>waahh waaaahh I can't look things up myself

It's literally as easy as typing "sexual assaults in the military when deployed" in to Google, but like I said, you're just a massive faggot that plugs his ears and yells to avoid learning anything that goes against what you think kek

What's with the link fag boi? I already said women shouldn't be in combat roles lmao it's like you can't deviate from your script

>>36076690
I think that's fair enough then, and I'd certainly think that applies to AGP.

Honestly, and I hate to say it, I'm getting pushed in that direction. I'm not a radical feminist by any means, but I'm sick and tired of trannies thinking that lesbians are obligated to be attracted to them.

I know the vast majority of trannies aren't like that, but the ones who are REALLY are and it's a little scary. I don't even have a problem with trannies using the women's bathroom, but apparently I'm still a bigot for not being attracted to someone who literally has a dick.

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>>36076879
Women do have a big problem with sexual assaults in the military whoaa maybe if women WEREN'T IN THE FUCKING MILITARY that wouldn't be a problem.
I was specifically referring to the claim you made that men won't watch a womens back unless shes quiet.

Learn to fucking read. Pic related

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>MALE TERFS

I FUCKING WARNED YOU
I _FUCKING_ WARNED YOU
YOU HAVE ENTERED THE NIGGERDOME
THE NIGGERDOME IS LIKE SILENT HILL EXCEPT IT DOESN'T CARE ABOUT YOUR TRAUMA
IT JUST WANTS TO RAPE YOU AND TAKE YOUR WALLET

YOU ARE ABOUT TO WITNESS THE SYNTHESIS OF FEMINISM AND /POL/

EVACUATE THE FUCKING PLANET

Can sum one tell me how to change heating plates on an oven? Its an electro one

>>36077032
STEP ONE
PUT HEAD IN OVEN
STEP TWO
DUCK OUT ON THE SHITSHOW WE'RE ABOUT TO ENDURE

>>36077012
/pol/ and feminism will never merge. Feminism is too closely linked to Marxism. its basically the same thing.so thankfully it will never happen

>>36076961
>I was specifically referring to the claim you made that men won't watch a womens back unless shes quiet.
>Learn to fucking read

Take your own advice faggot. I never said the men WOULDN'T watch their backs, I said the women FEEL they can't report what happens because they THINK the men will not look out for them.

See the rage from roasties not worshiping you clouds your vision and you can't even read properly kek you're a faggot through and through

Who else /fifthwavefeminist/ here?

>>36077012
reply to this with "you can't have my wallet nigger" or you will never have a gf

>>36076859
Again you are telling me how I think without knowing me.

>Dresses are a symbol of easy access to fucking, as evidenced by your own experiences of willingness to fuck women in dresses

This is where I have a problem with it. Men and women have very different ways of attracting mates. In the sciences we call this sexual selection. Women tend to be the gate keepers of sex so they must attract mates. While men tend to compete with other men for that women I.E. peacocks. Males compete with one another for mates with displays.

Now I agree with you that there are things which increase your value to mates and that dress is a huge one. But to say that men see a women in her sex symbol and think that the same sex symbol would work for them is just plain stupid.
Men know what attracts women. They even other men that are more have a higher value in the sex market all the time. Just look at how people talk about "chads" here.

>>36077111
>>36076961
And all this shit you can read online, but you need daddy to spoon feed you

>>36077109
NAZISM IS BASICALLY MARXISM FOR GERMANS

IT'S ALL ABOUT RUINING PEOPLES' FUN AND FUCKING UP THEIR SHIT, OF FUCKING COURSE IT'S COMPATIBLE

EVAC

FUCKING CALL FOR EVAC

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>>36077111
Okay well you should have been more clear beforehand but anyway

>women FEEL they..
I don't care. If someone is sexually assaulted, regardless of gender they should report it. If they don't, sorry but that is their own goddamn problem and I don't feel sorry for them

The military is trying to address this, but I think women just shouldn't be in the military, then we can focus on the real problem. Men being assaulted in the military, pic related

>>36077127

>
This is where I have a problem with it. Men and women have very different ways of attracting mates. In the sciences we call this sexual selection. Women tend to be the gate keepers of sex so they must attract mates. While men tend to compete with other men for that women I.E. peacocks. Males compete with one another for mates with displays.

It's a fantasy. It's not real. It's like imagining yourself fighting Majin Buu or something.

>>36077313
>It's a fantasy. It's not real. It's like imagining yourself fighting Majin Buu or something.

Fantasy? Something we see across nature is fantasy.

>>36077271
>I don't care. If someone is sexually assaulted, regardless of gender they should report it.
>lemme just go report this CO to this other CO who's his buddy

lmao man you have no idea how the military works. It's a boys club still, and when they're assaulted by a superior, especially an officer, I can almost guarantee you that the person has been reported before and nothing has come from it. Enlisted chicks fresh out of high school are prime targets

>>36077371

No, you dolt, the fantasy is men fantasizing about being more desirable than they are.

>>36077411
Nigga, you need to communicate better if you want me to understand you.

Fantasy about what? Having sex. Well let me tell you sex is very real. Not for a faggot like you but its real. The sexual dynamic that causes attraction and leads to mating is very real. The psychology behind how we attract mates is very real.

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>>36077406
So we both admit that there is a problem. Men and women are being sexually assaulted in the military.

So whats your idea for a solution then? I suggest that women shouldn't be in the military period, like I've been saying this entire time.

Pros for women in military
>(((equality)))

Cons
>sexual assaults on men and women by men and women
>women being taken prisoner/raped by enemy
>men sacrificing themselves to save women because men are men, jeopardizing other people and the mission in general
>women are physically weaker than men on average, this is biology and can not be changed
>lowered scores for P.T. tests because they need the politically correct number of females in military

and I'm sure theres more

>>36074613
>TERF
Literally kill yourself
If you were born a male with your same personality you'd be a misogynist trumpanzee
You're a reactionary and an enemy to equality

>>36078584

I am male though.

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>>36074613
kek will punish you

what the fuck is a terf

make an argument, please. men are superior to women, this is biologically factual. All empirical evidence asserts that males are more powerful than women (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8477683).
The weak should fear the strong