Anyone else think how the western world treats sex is fucking

It actually disturbs me we got this far into hedonistic behaviors as a culture.

It's surreal, I hear about shit that happens and it sounds like I'm hearing about the Roman orgies or some other weird shit.

>>35963003
The only reason I'm against all of that is because I'm not getting any and it makes me so angry knowing I had no control over what I would look like and was just thrusted into an existence where I can't even get any of the benefits of being alive. If I had a big dick and was tall with great bone structure I wouldn't complain about the hedonism at all.

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>>35963003
What makes you think it's just western culture OP? It extends everywhere, it's just people as a whole. In fairness, it's not like it's ever been compassionate or romantic, but promiscuity is at an all time high, and it disgusts me aswell.

>>35963280
You just sound like a hypocrite, in other words, you're simply a failed normie. If you only hate something because you can't have it, then you're a pathetic, envious person, and I don't feel sorry for you. You should also leave this board.

Why don't you worry about yourself instead.

>>35963483
If you had the perfect genetics you would not think like you do right now and it's laughable that you think you would. You would never be on here complaining about degeneracy and hedonism. At least I'm honest with myself and not trying to pain myself as some holy and pure person.

i want to be pure but i keep catching myself masturbating, I'm sorry.

>>35963003
You would understand if you could get any.

I remember that I used to call drinkers "degenerate lowlifes who should all kill themselves". Then I got drunk with my friends, played vidya, and had a good time. A little perspective can change things.

>>35963003
There's nothing romantic about sex lmfao.

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>>35963540
Don't make me laugh, if you actually think such a way then you must be such a bitter person. Infact, I do have good genetics, I'm tall, I'm attractive, I've had plenty of opportunities to succeed socially in my life, or pursue hedonistic desires. But I don't. Because I'm what you call a "true" robot. I simply don't get along with people, and I don't enjoy being around them. I have morals and I have beliefs that I stick by. A robot isn't defined by genetics or anything of that sort, you clearly know nothing about what being a robot means if you think so. Like I said, you're simply a failed normie, you have desires you want, but you can't achieve them, because you are weak. For me, I can achieve them if I wanted to, but I have no desire, because I'm simply not like other people. I am not different from others by choice, but you are, because you are weak. I simply don't like people, or being around them, it's my nature. You're stuck in a situation where you envy others, and you probably could even achieve it, you're just too weak to. You aren't a robot, so don't go around trying to act like you are. Thanks.

>>35963603
Again, another normalfag, who should not be of this board.

I've refused a lot of girls because I want the right person.
I'm convinced she doesnt exist, so I plan to keep refusing them and dying a KV

>>35963639
>you must be such a bitter person
You got me there for sure.

I don't believe you when you say you're a perfect male specimen with so many opportunities and people begging you to be with them but for the sake of your argument I'll humor you. Take the mind you have right now and put it in the body of a guy who is 5'5" with a micro penis and an awful face. You would be bitter to the world as well and upset that you can't live the hedonist lifestyle you see so many normalfags and chads do, right now you have the opportunity to turn it down and decide for yourself but for me there isn't even an opportunity to turn it down and decide for myself, it's already over. We are only whatever the superficial parts of ourselves are.

>>35963639
>le smart but lazy, TOTALLY CAPABLE but no zeal meme again
Yawn, new channel please.

>>35963757
you can't fathom a person who doesn't fit social stereotypes? it's all a meme?

>>35963745
>We are only whatever the superficial parts of ourselves are.
this is not true. we are only what is inside of us. this can be affected by the superficial because part of our personality is formed through other people's perceptions of us but if this were true then every ugly, undesirable and lonely guy would be equally as bitter as you are and it's not true.

and if he took his mind and put it into your body, he probably wouldn't be bitter because he doesn't value what you value.

>>35963771
It's not that someone can't/doesn't fit social stereotypes. It's the pathetic asf front you put on to seem genuine. No, you're not handsome and you've never had these so-called opportunities because you're a derisive cunt. Pull yoir head out of your ass, kid, and stop staring at college campuses and the epic media. You want romance? Talk to a romantic girl. Talking to a brain-dead, sex craving whore will not net you romance and that literally goes without saying.

WAAH MUH SOCIETY XDDDDDDD

You're overcomplicating what sex really is, a means of feeling good. You can make somebody feel good in any other way and it's fine but you mean to tell me when genitals get involved it suddenly becomes bad? There is absolutely no purpose to this life other than the avoidance of pain and pursuit of pleasure.

>>35963806
For me it's not about having different values, it's knowing that I have zero choice in my life. Anyone who is well off in their looks can just decide which way to go for themselves. They can turn down all the countless offers of sex because they don't feel like it, or they can choose whether they want a traditional life or a degenerate one. People below average can't and now I have to somehow justify that I'm bitter and angry because something I have no control over dictates my life experience. This thread just further proves why life is such shit. Ugly people can't even act bitter which is completely justified without someone coming in and saying how that's wrong.

>>35963250
We're reaching the final stages of the collapse of our society, widespread degeneracy always leads to self-destruction. Hopefully whatever society arises from it is one that doesn't fall for the same mistakes.

>>35963509
WHO ARE YOU WHERE YA BEEN WHERE YA FROM

>>35963886
you can act bitter and i understand why you are. but you have to be aware that your bitterness harms no one but you. i know that it doesn't seem possible to have any other mindset but it probably is, if you put some serious work into it.

i'm not saying you have to be cheery and happy about the shitty hand you were dealt. i'm saying that you're piling shit on top of shit when you let the bitterness take over because you can't even be happy about the things you could potentially be happy about when you're so distracted by what you can't have.

please don't feel judged. i know life is shit.

That is exactly why we are not having sex, senpai

>>35963003
I don't participate It disgusts me too

>>35963816
>There is absolutely no purpose to this life other than the avoidance of pain and pursuit of pleasure.
The problem is that pursuing pleasure doesn't lead to a pleasurable life.

>>35963003
You're one of the few people I've heard say something like that, i'm in same boat with you.

>>35964095
For you maybe. I'm perfectly content now that I've just embraced the hedonism, it's made me able to actually enjoy living for once. If somebody finds happiness in religion or pseudo-celibacy for example that's great but it just isn't my thing, different people have different outlooks.

I can't decide which is worse, modern western sexual degeneracy, or Islamic barbarism. At least with Islam, they don't tolerate slutiness, but the problem is that killing people for it is way too barbaric. But with Western degeneracy, slutiness is glorified, STDs spread like wildfire, people have stopped having children since they only care about sexual pleasure, and as a result their society will be simply out-bred.

Why can't we go back to the early 20th century, where women didn't have many rights, but they were still treated well, compared to Islam at least. Why would we change a system that works so well? It's just crazy.

Its the jews.
Become a /pol/ack if you are ready to swallow that pill.

>>35963003
I have thought this for a while myself, but this is the first time I've seen anybody have the same opinion. I don't understand how people can view sex as they do now, it's almost as common as a handshake, it's almost equal to first base any more. It's strange that humans don't regard sex, in all of it's intimacy, as something sacred, it's the first step to creating life, though we are no longer superstitious, and are a scientifically advanced society. Maybe humans have always been this way.
We're probably just the few people who think this, but, just know OP, you aren't the only one who thinks this.

>>35963003
>Anyone else think how the western world treats sex is fucking gross?
fuckin obviously.. Hearing shit like "Just wasn't working out with Chad - we weren't sexually compatible" WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT EVEN MEAN???!!!

>>35963003
Yes. That's why I only date Asian women, whites just want to be cum dumps for a nasty beast.

Leave Western girls to the dogs, they'll love the knots.

you are all stupid neckbeards

>>35963250
Will Trump fiddle as Washington burns?

Degeneracy has existed since humans existed.

You are just closed minded, deluded, impressionable and not very well read to realize this.

Stop romanticizing these silly things and focus on your own life.

>>35965051
>Degeneracy has existed since humans existed.
yeah sure, those medieval cuck porn blacked gangbang triple anal websites were the worst. fuck outta here

>>35963562
God, the creator of all matter, knows when you masturbate.

>>35963639
I thought schizoid robots were a dying breed.
Glad to see I'm not alone.

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>>35963887
we will live in a period of revolutionary turmoil if we see the end of degeneracy. true turmoil doesn't leave room for hedonism and generally socially degenerate behavior. eventually, with whatever society springs up from the chaos, there will be sexual degeneracy, but for the period of turmoil, a good amount of degeneracy will be rooted out. I will strive to live in a state of perfect chaos

>Chick I'm friends with tells me she wants to fuck me
>Not be in a relationship, just fuck
>Turn her down
>She gets super offended
>Ask other people what I should have done
>Nobody can believe a young male would turn down attachment free sex with no emotion attached
>Some actively insult or berate me

I don't know what I'm meant to do. Am I too idealistic and old fashioned? Am I stupid? Autistic for not wanting to just fuck someone because she is moderately attractive and has a vagina?

>>35965187
no. love must be in the act of sex, and take pride in what you did. no worthwhile women will want to fuck you without loving you first

>>35965187
You might be a faggot.
Just think about it.

>>35965231
and you might actually be the sexually perverse norman scum that is not only ruining this board, but also that is killing modern civ as a whole

>>35965187
I hope you realize that every generation was hyper-promiscuous when they were young, but behind closed doors. It's just more accepted today so more people are open about it.

>>35965306
The "promiscuity" you're referring to didn't predate the industrial revolution, and even then was mainly limited to urbanfags living in close quarters. Even then, the number of sexual partners ppl had 100 years ago vs today isn't even remotely on the same level

>>35965026
Why the fuck do people have to bring up politics all the fucking time.

We get it. You're informed. Cool. High five.

>>35963745
>I can't comprehend people who think differently than me

>>35965455
The industrial revolution was also over 200 years ago. At the time christians were as bad as muslims when it came to demonizing sex, especially in the victorian era where they voluntarily mutilated their genitals because they hated it so much. This was a time period when masturbation was believed to cause everything from seizures to blindness or even death. Kellogg the cereal man is almost entirely responsible for circumcision being brought to the US because he heavily recommended it as punishment for masturbation, he also suggested pouring acid on little girls but that never caught on.

We now have a much better understanding of how the universe works and so the magic of religion has worn off and with it the stigmatism surrounding sexuality. There is absolutely no reason to be ashamed of feeling good, and it also is still entirely possible to be in a committed relationship. You have unrealistic expectations of your partner being a pure innocent virgin yet you likely have nothing desirable in return.

>>35965455
>100 years ago vs today isn't even remotely on the same level
No shit they didn't have social media and if you were in a rural environment you were too busy trying to get by to care about getting laid. There were also obviously much fewer potential partners for you which I shouldn't even need to say.

>>35964095
it's true. hedonism is a false god that will only lead to misery

>>35965588
>There is absolutely no reason to be ashamed of feeling good
It's a question of degrees.. popping MDMA all day probably feels good too but it doesn't mean it's good for the "soul" or whatever you want to call it. How many kids are born out of wedlock in your opinion today, compared to before? Growing up without a father? How many women ride the cock carousel looking for empty pleasures only to have their eggs expire and then lead a lonely jaded life? I'm not a virgin or even a total puritan but extreme sexual liberation is a major cause of societal decline

>>35965306
>every generation was hyper-promiscuous when they were young

>people living in a small town were as promiscuous as the people living with a piece of metal in their hand that can repeatedly get them sex with a a person they've never even seen before in a mere matter of hours

>>35963003
>There's nothing compassionate or romantic about the act anymore
There's nothing compassionate or romantic about anything anymore, so who cares? Why pretend like it's possible when it's clearly not? It becomes obvious after the age of 12 that despite your protestations and fantasies this pathetic perversion of existence is the life you are condemned to. It's insulting to associate it with anything more pure than itself.

>>35965075

Who do you think made up all those myths revolving around incest and bestiality? Someone other than ancient humans?

>>35963003
>girls look fown on you for holding hands
>sneer at you for wanting to cuddle
>they just want to get fugged

Western women disgust me.

>>35965694
I never said you should pop MDMA all day, there are obviously consequences to doing this. If you want to take it in healthy moderation that's fine and again is nothing to be ashamed of.

Children being raised in broken homes is a problem, I'm not trying to justify women ruining their lives. It's one of the only reasons I support abortion because I would rather an irresponsible mother get rid of them painlessly than have them grow up suffering. I'm also referring to males, women I don't really care about. The only hobby 99% of them have is sex so of course they'll be miserable when they aren't sexually valuable anymore. Let them worry about themselves.

>>35965780
Go prison gay then. Women are manipulative cunts, guys are the only ones into that cutesy shit anymore.

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>>35965862
Gay is just as degenerate. Typical homosexual starts using grindr for casual sex from age 17 and has had 27 'partners' by age 21

>>35965814
>If you want to take it in healthy moderation that's fine and again is nothing to be ashamed of.
Possibly the same thing could be said for casual sex, i concede this. But the issue when ppl talk about "degeneracy" is not really that much about casual sex, it's about the glorification of slut behavior, the paradigm of the "slut as liberated free thinking wimmin", the promotion of frankly skankalicious behavior is all media which then becomes a model for kids to follow. It's more of a top-down kind of thing and the endgame isn't pretty

>>35965910
Slut glorification isn't what I'm talking about either though, and it's also much less prominent than people think. Even normans who have casual sex all the time will call out sluts for being sluts. My point is that sex is only a natural urge and the best physical pleasure you can get without drugs. It isn't something to be demonized but it also isn't something to be praised as revolutionary, it's just something you do when you want to feel good.

>>35965814
>children being raised in broken homes is a problem
>women, i don't really care about
are you as retarded as you seem to be, whore?

>>35965972
>it's just something you do when you want to feel good.
it makes babies. stupid teenagers fucking without condoms to "feel good" and continuing this behavior for the next ten years is why so many children grow up in shitty homes without being taught any real values. this is just one of the negatives to normalizing promiscuity. you are just like the rest of the idiots who want to pretend there are no real consequences to casual sex because then you could enjoy your mindless mutual masturbation without worry.

>>35965900
>27 'partners' by age 21
that is fucking sickening

>>35965972
> and it's also much less prominent than people think.
>what is rap
>what is literally every female diva of the last 20 years except maybe TayTay
Not going to say it's ALL media necessarily, but it's in the air, without a doubt. Too lazy to find source, but i'm sure doctors would tell you about the explosions of VD among teenagers, and not only basketball-americans. Fucking just to "feel" good is looking for oblivion, not even that christian but it should be reserved for monogamous relationships imo. Any number of social ills would become a thing of the past

>>35963003
at the same time I don't think completely abstaining from sex and physical intimacy is healthy either

>>35966029
I mean I don't care about their personal happiness. If they want to ride the cock carousel and get 100 abortions that's their business, as long as they aren't actually having kids and fucking up their lives. There will always be womyn who either want a family from the start or will settle for some poor soul after they've whored around, but at least the kids grow up with two parents.

>>35965187
Your friends just put pussy on a pedestal, and are obviously desperate to get laid. Those are some thirsty incels. I wouldn't believe your friends if they tell you they are getting any. There are lots of reasons to turn down sex, just remember the girl is going to go fuck someone else though and your friends are probably thirsty enough to put up with any of her bullshit no matter how disrespectful it is.

>>35963003
>western world
ever heard of thailand breh?

>>35963003
hi OP why would you post this here? this place is filled with degenerate sympathizers.

>>35966072
No mistake, the answer is monogamy and marriage. People think they are above it, then ruin their lives with unplanned pregnancy, easily-avoidable illnesses, serial abusive relationships, and generally just wasting precious time on pleasure that amounts to nothing.

>>35966065
That's why I stated I support abortion friend. It makes kids but it also feels amazing and that's the main reason most people do it.

>>35966103
Thailand's brand of degeneracy is more relevant than ever, now that people are succeeding in making prostitutes out of young western males. It sickens me that the connection is never brought up, that the historically exploitative nature of transgenderism is completely ignored.

>>35966072
Being a virgin doesn't make you superior to anyone. If you want to hold on to the dream of finding your perfect virgin waifu while you sit here and get fatter and more mentally unhealthy by the day have at it.

>>35965187
your moral character stood up to the test and the envious degenerates berated you for their own lack of resolve

>>35966130
here's a news flash. people too stupid to wear condoms are often too stupid to get an abortion even if it's the best choice.

not that abortion is a great thing in the first place but it's slightly better than unwanted children or giving them up for adoption.

doesn't matter though. the problem could be solved by idiots not fucking in the first place. if you don't trust someone enough to have a long term relationship with them then you have very little self respect if you're still willing to fuck them.

i don't understand how sex has become less intimate than dating. it's incomprehensible to me that this is what the world is like. people using each other as dildos and pocket pussies after they get drunk or high at the club and then never seeing them again instead of people getting to know each other, forming bonds and starting families. we already know it's worse for society as a whole so is it really more fulfilling for the individual because it "feels amazing"?

>>35966125
>unplanned pregnancy
what are contraceptives/abortion
>easily-avoidable illnesses
what are condoms
>pleasure that amounts to nothing
Sex lasts for about 20 minutes on average, maybe 1-2 hours on the longer side. Do you have any idea how much time you waste on this website that also amounts to nothing? Everything amounts to nothing in the end, I'd rather have fun with my life than slave and rot away just to feel like I accomplished something.

>>35966208
You don't understand because you're a virgin.

>>35966125
>wasting precious time on pleasure that amounts to nothing.
Literally nothing. They've studied it like it was the cure for cancer
"Guide to her 43 erogenous zones"
"How to make her squirt and scream for more in 5 easy steps"
"Orgasms - Why you've been doing it wrong"
"How to drive your partner WILD"
It's not rocket science for the love of fuck. Nor is it the key to any kind of actual fulfillment or a successful relationship.
>>35966167
>Being a virgin doesn't make you superior to anyone.
>projecting.png
Thinking that 27 partners by the age of 21 is disgusting makes me an automatic khv? Stop throwing memes around for a fucking second. None of my 2 gfs i've had were virgins, nor was that something i was looking for. Would be nice for them to have had less than 27 cocks in them though, call me old fashioned

>>35966242
>what are contraceptives/abortion
I'll take "the key to total demographic replacement" for 200, Alex

>>35966242
Contraceptives and abortion don't stop the living hell of men providing for children they never see, or going to jail for failing to provide for those children they never see. Give an African a condom, he'll put it on a statue and pray to it. Your fun will put civilization in an early grave.

>>35966264
it's mainly by choice. i don't believe in casual sex and i never have.

>>35966264
>spot the serial abortion purchaser
You know you'd save a lot of money off those abortions if you bought a pack of condoms along with all that booze. You don't have to be ashamed about it you already have a reputation for sleeping around.

>>35966543
Condoms don't always work and you would know that if you weren't a virgin. They're good at their job but there's always the chance of some freak occurrence happening.

>>35966594
>condoms don't always work
yes, exactly, you retard.

>>35963816
If that's true then why not just become a junkie and shoot up some heroin?

If hedonists truly believed what they say then this is all they would do all day every day

But clearly that's not the case, clearly pleasure just for pleasure's sake is not fulfilling

>>35966801
Because constantly shooting up heroin is a great way to seriously injure or kill yourself. Hedonism doesn't mean you want to partake in serious self destructive behavior like that, it just means your entire purpose in life is experiencing as much pleasure as possible.

>>35966390
Not to be that guy, but you can't not believe in casual sex, because casual sex is a thing that absolutely exists.
I think what you meant to say was "I don't believe IN HAVING casual sex".

>>35966826
>Not to be that guy
then don't be that guy.

>>35966819
Fucking a variety of men often invites injury or death. Just look at coalburners, or those poor whores who went home with Jeffrey Dahmer.

>>35966841
Again that's irresponsible and self destructive behavior. You can enjoy sex or even whore yourself out without risking your health or life. I'm also a man so that's not a problem I'll ever have to worry about, I know I can easily overpower a bitch if she goes psycho on me.

>>35966819
What way of experiencing pleasure isn't self destructive? and if you mean to take things in moderation so that it's not self destructive then you're not a hedonist you're just a normal human being.

>>35965467
People are in complete meltdown mode since the election and the only way they have to make themselves feel better is try to bring out politics everywhere in a passive agressive manner.

>>35966909
Hedonism is the pursuit of pleasure. You can't experience pleasure when you're dead and being in sever pain really dampens the mood. Shooting up heroin all the time will cause serious health and psychological complications = pain = not fun if you really need me to spell it out that much for you. The only difference between the average person and a hedonist is that a hedonist places pleasure above any other goals such as a well paying job, a family etc. They live for themselves and maybe another hedonistic partner but that's about it.

>>35966839
But I am that guy, it's a compulsion.

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>>35963003
t. someone who doesnt have sex and therefore uses the fox/grapes train of thought

>>35965075
>hes never read othello

>>35965767
jews invented history
jews invented everything
we're a computer simulation on a substrate of jew brains
jews did matter

>>35966594
You do realize more than one person replies to these, right?
You sound way too immature to be having sex.
0/10 would not fuck

>>35966953
there's no difference there. Someone who wants a well paying job wants it for the pleasure that having a well paying job provides, same with having a family.

>>35966963
That pic is revolting

>>35967060
hedonism is physical pleasure you fucking retard. a well paying job doesnt give you pleasure, it makes you slave yourself when you could just get autismbux and spend it on weed or whatever other poison you want. a big house, a nice car etc can be nice additives but aren't inherently hedonistic on their own. something like a family also isn't hedonistic especially since they're a drain on you emotionally anf financially and most of the time are more trouble than they're worth.

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>>35966090
Of course it's not. I didn't say to avoid sex like the plague. If the person you're dating offers sex then feel free to take it. If I had a gf I'd want to fuck her too. I just think it should be for the person you're genuinely in love with, not the random fucks you find on tinder or at the club.