>want to learn to draw >go to /ic/ >read the sticky

Get a pencil and start drawing things in your house

Learn until you get ballsey enough for a pen or something

>>35901219
look on the bright side ic has better types of people compared to this hellhole

>>35901219
Read the books in the sticky, most people who say that did read them and grew to realize how mediocre they are, you should do the same

>>35901219
>using 4chan for help or inspiration in artistic endeavours
You're doing it wrong OP

What do you want to draw anyways? What inspires you?

I'm in the same boat, but realize everyone started out like this. Don't think just draw, do the exercises, do them again, and again, and again. Drawing is like rpg grinding.

>>35901303
but isn't that just a big waste of time?
>>35901363
>what do you want to draw anyways
I have lots of stuff that I like the idea of drawing. Highly precise building designs, cute anime girls, and depictions of suffering and ugliness in nature are all things that interest me. I want to do it because I don't really have any way of expressing myself, and I feel I need something.
>>35901641
What exercises?

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>>35901712
The ones from books mostly, like in the ic sticky. They teach you about visual awareness for example. You can't just draw, you need to exercise techniques.

>>35901712
>but isn't that just a big waste of time?

no faggot, they teach a lot, plus they have tons of exercises in the books. You need to read them because there is no real other alternative other than going to uni. They will help you build a solid foundation of art

>>35901779
>>35901820
which of the sticky books would you personally recommend? I hear a lot of people saying drawing on the right side of the brain is really bad.

>>35901870
All of them, they're follow ups in your skill timeline. Drawing on the right side has bullshit brain science which you should ignore, but good drawing exercises that show results pretty fast.

need an excuse to use my tablet and stop being an unmotivated piece of shit someone tell me something to draw.
also just draw, op. every day, just draw and most importantly have fun. if you enjoy it, you'll want to improve.

>they claim to want to learn to draw
>they don't doodle grafiti, stick figures or straight up random shapes in a sketch book already

then you don't actually want to draw.

i gave up on drawing specifically because i needed a lightbox but couldn't afford one or didn't know how to obtain one.
i would get so frustrated because i couldn't see, i would just scrap my drawing and give up.

>>35901893
draw a room with a bigass aquarium as the only light source

>>35901893
I'll give three keywords
Dystopian
Victorian
Antarctica

>>35901219
Do robots even use /ic/?

>>35901870
keys to drawing, and perspective made easy if you're starting out. Then you can go on to loomis and hampton and other stuff.

Also look for the Artbook threads, in those you can get like 99% of the books you're looking for.

>>35901944
There are no robots here, they went to wizchan after their failed attempt to hijack this board.

>going to /ic/
I went for 4 years, got alright, and dropped art altogether because I now absolutely despise every aspect of art that isn't the Renaissance

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>>35901944
>>35901983
I am a robot.
>>35901978
Thanks anon.
>>35902049
I find it hard to believe you took it very seriously if you don't like ANYTHING outside the Renaissance. Why do you only like Renaissance work?

>>35902049
I got a scholarship to two art schools, got initiated In this extracurricular school, took painting classes for nothing.
I just wanted to make drawings for video games. But art is singlehandedly the most masturbatory and faggoty thing people have to do, so when you get your feelings hurt about it, a place like /ic/ is spawned and people like me happen. There are forms you could go on that accomplish what ic accomplishes but keeps you motivated. DA is good, that forum by appleflinger is good. Idk man

>>35902104
Historically it was the only point in time when there was a craft to painting and design. When it mattered then it became a big deal for the growing world a few hundred years later. The work they did wasn't perfect but it was pretty damn good considering where they were at and im autistic about it

>>35902111
>DA is good

great bait

sounds like you're just bad

>>35902111
>I thought I was pretty good at art but people didn't jerk me off enough and my feelings got hurt
>There are better forums than /ic/ out there to improve, I suggest a circlejerk where there'll be a crowd to fellate you no matter how shit your drawings are like DeviantArt
I don't want to say that /ic/ is the best place for real critique but a few people know their stuff and if you're not cunt enough to get your feelings hurt by banter/shitposts even those posters say things that you can benefit from hearing as an artist

>>35902186
Certain parts of dA are good, newfag. Ever heard of unmotivatedlosers? They were an /ic/ group. More than a handful of those guys graduated to concept art

>>35902193
Post ur art dude :)

Ic is a bunch of retards, they don't know how to crit now. I got my shit kicked in by the big boys like olly and I just eventually gave up. I don't really care because art in and of itself is fucking gay and a living through it is suffering because of liberal wankstains

>>35901219
/ic/ has a beginner thread, go there

Buy tracing paper and trace cartoony characters, like tv characters, video game characters, etc

That's how I learned to hold a pencil as a kid. I hated using utensils, but I liked video games, so my dad bought me tracing paper and now I draw actively

>>35901944
I did and I left bc it was full of poorly drawn porn and it was a waste of time

>>35901219
>want to start lifting
>read the sticky to learn what to do
>nearly every thread mocks the sticky advice with stuff like >he fell for the SS meme
>don't ever start

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Hey OP I like drawing and helping other anons get into it, post any work you've done and I'll talk about where you need to go. But first I need you to answer these questions:

>what's the thing you want to be really good at drawing

>do you want to do drawing as a hobby or career

>how willing are you to keep up daily drawing

I'm not saying at this point you have to do this, I draw a bunch and even I didn't keep up daily drawing in my early learning days I just put in what I felt I was having fun with. Here's some of my old stuff compared to my new, I've still got a long way to go but will all make it someday.

don't bother learning to draw. you have neither the discipline, the motivation, nor the drive to improve. if you can't even improve yourself, how can you expect to improve your art? /ic/ doesn't need more self important wanks presenting their shitty sai drawings on a tablet daddy bought for them.

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>start drawing
>never tell anyone
>once your stuff doesn't make you wanna puke anymore, go to drawthreads and collect (You)s like a leaf on crack

It's easy friend.

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>>35903114
This is my stuff now, I started drawing more of the stuff I enjoyed so it's a bit erratic display wise but nowadays I'm beginning to focus on creature and character design.

Now if you would like some help anon, I'd always be happy to talk and draw with you I'd critique you to get you a little further ahead.

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In case OP you've been startled by the amount of responses and don't want to reply I'm always here if you want some help, here's my junk email just contact me if you get stuck or want some direction.

[email protected]

Goodluck anon.

>>35902049
DUDE REALISM LMAO

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>>35901297
>sad bitter virgins

>angry bitter virgins who can draw better than you

whatever you say man

>tfw don't have the discipline to actually learn
>tfw just pick up my tablet and scribble for 3 hours once a week

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>>35902843
You sound like you took a hit to your ego at some point and instead of learning from it you just decided to give up and become bitter. Once again I'm not trying to say /ic/ is the best for critique but if you're not super thin-skinned and invested in your shitty drawings you can learn something from there sometimes

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join LAS anon, go to /ic/ and find the /las/ thread.

it's a community for people to improve themselves and create good habit by drawing everyday

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>>35903388
Not OP
I just draw this, it's my first drawing since 5yrs or so, I would like to know what you think.

I used to go to art high school but they kicked me for absenteeism.
lately I was thinking about getting back to drawing

sry for bad english

>>35904621
Can you guys tell me what to draw? I have no ideas.

>>35904621
start from the basics, you don't have solid fundamentals.

>>35904693
a horse in motion

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>>35904705
thanks senpai
I draw a horse, I'll try to draw some more and read some tutorials in the next couple of days

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>>35905177
keep practicing. we're all going to make it.

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What do you guys think of my drawing

>>35906303
>taking a photograph of your screen

>>35906801
sai expired

I just learned how to save without paying though lol

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this is my first drawing ever I decided to pick up some colored pencils one day and free hand from a picture I found in a magazine.

>>35906863
WHAT ARE SCREENSHOTS GOD DAMN

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>>35906889

about one month later and looking at alot of davinci and doodles that were old af.

>>35906801
>>35906902
>falling for this joke
(i-i think it's a joke)

>>35906944
>>35906889
this is pretty good if that really was your first drawing ever

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>>35901219
Aww.

I did some developmental art teaching classes in art school and figured the best way to teach fundamentals to children and beginners is to go straight to form and forget about detail. So: start with two things.

>1. basic linear perspective. Nothing fancy. Just put down a horizontal horizon line and slap two vanishing points on it. Draw some cubes. There are lots of tutorials online covering this. Linear perspective does get more complicated later but the basics are simple to grasp.

>2. Stick figures. Use stick figures as a start on anatomy and posing. Drawing a stick figure stand straight. Stick figure slouching. Stick figure running, sitting, crouching, jumping, etc. Do lots of those. Then instead of stick figures, use ovals and circles to make parts of the body instead of a single line. Repeat same process of poses. I like this technique because it quickly breaks beginners of the idea of going straight to detail; like they will look at the side of a person's face and start their drawing by meticulously trying to trace out the outer profile. That's bad and forms bad habits later, messes up proportion and perspective right from the start. Blocking in big basic shapes is the ticket. Then detail those in later.

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>>35907166

fug. pic related picture is attached to post

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>>35907185

then use shapes to block in more detail, start to incorporate actual anatomically correct shapes and you're well on your way.

This takes time though. Don't rush between steps.

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I dont remember where I got this but here.

>>35901712
>waste of time
compared to what? to what youre doing now? nothing?

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>>35907233

Once you're getting comfy with the above, it's a smaller step to get to pic related here.

>>35901219
Rules to learning how to draw
1 don't expect immediate results, that's not how it works
2 don't take it too seriously, if you can't laugh at your own mistakes you won't get better

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>>35906889
>>35906944

this is also me but I started out with patterns after that tf2 one because bodies were to damn hard

that heavy looks like a lumpy potato imo.

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No matter how good your art gets, you'll always think its shit

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OP nobody starts off amazing. Even Rembrandt and Schiele all started off like plebs like the rest of us, just they started off earlier is all.
I'm not saying I'm an accomplished artist or anything because I'm not, but picture related are all mine and the ONLY difference between the first picture and the second two are that didn't give up even though I believed I was shit (I'm still shit desu but I have better technical knowledge now).

If you're really interested in getting better, start now and start doing it everyday. Treat everyday as an opportunity for improvement and do your best to absorb everything you learn and it's impossible that you won't get better.

Don't let your dreams remain dreams, cuck.

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>>35907388
Dude my drawings on tablets are pretty bad, i haven't even spent an hour practicing with it though so obviously

>>35901712
Learn how to make a face, you can do it in like 3 minutes it's basically setting a couple proportion rules
Google some face reference
Get some drawing pencils an eraser and a pencil sharpener
Give it a go
Try to understand your mistakes the best you can
Try to correct your mistakes the best you can
When you are confident you have it a good try Google how to draw eyes, ears, nose, keep lips to basic because once you start moving the mouth around that's some other shit
Keep going until you are better
Start looking into shading
Start looking into drawing full body
Start practicing with different body positions
Try to incorporate some perspective

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>>35907427
Also, whatever you do DO NOT try to begin learning from heavily stylised works like anime or you will cripple your foundations and that kind of damage is very hard to reverse.

>>35904621
I'd say you've got some pretty good forms there, I feel like you can just about understand the 3D shapes but you don't know how to position them fluently but I feel as if your designs aren't grounded to earth enough, the problem with that picture is it's not easily recognisable to the viewer (I can tell its some form of mechanical robot) at this point you want to find a bunch of reference images to copy and draw inspiration from which fit closest to what your drawing it will make it recognisabilty far easier plus improve the realism to make what your drawing believable.

So in conclusion start collecting a bunch of real world reference images, use those as the base for your design, mix and match and you'll eventually pull out something cool.

>>35901893
A machine, like a big old Rusty facotry machine

>>35907491

Nope. You want almost entirely opposite of this list. Portrait is the most finnicky on detail and benefits the most from experience and solid grasp of the fundamentals. Full body form and perspective FIRST, then work towards details later.

>>35907491
Add muscle and practice hands and feet
Stick to this and only this for a year
Your goal should be to be able to draw body's in a year
Then you add to it like clothes for example of backgrounds or coloring

>>35901297
As a frequenter of /ic/ I can say it is just as autistic as /r9k/

>>35907617
Well you are retarded, probably learned form one of those wierd books or worse yet a how to manga
Nobody teaches drawing starting with the body, everyone starts with the face
Stick to the face first and you can surprise yourself in what you can do a couple months from now, if you start with the body I can't even imagine all the ways you will get stuck along the way

>>35907700

I have a BFa in fine art and worked for several years as an illustrator, anon. I do know what i'm talking about.

>>35907654
Not gonna make it, originally love /ic/

>>35907700
Another artist here (although you're probably going to accuse samefag), but >>35907740 >>35907617. If you stick to only developing fine details what inevitably happens down the line is that you only get really good in ONE area. You box yourself into a safe zone that you never end up leaving, until all you have is really good faces with sub-par bodies on account of your limited foundational skills.

>>35907741
Didn't say I don't love the place my man. I post there and here afterall

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>>35901219
>want to learn to draw
>practice consistently for over a year
>actually get worse
I think I have real autism sometimes

>>35907427
>I'm not saying I'm an accomplished artist or anything because I'm not, but picture related are all mine and the ONLY difference between the first picture and the second two are that didn't give up even though I believed I was shit (I'm still shit desu but I have better technical knowledge now).
What's the timespan?

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>>35908608
Like 5 years old to 20, but the bulk of that was spent as a child who was still absorbing and categorising the reality of colour theory, shapes, lighting and shadows, gravity etc. If you're studying directly from adulthood you've already got a greater footing and are going to have the intellectual capacity to progress at a much faster rate.

Picture related is from when I was 16 though. You can tell I haven't really progressed much in the last 4 years, and the reason is because it was at that time I became depressed and pretty much stopped drawing completely. This is why consistency is important. Imagine where I'd be now if I had never stopped at 16.