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Why do you believe you can never be in a happy relationship with

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Why do you believe you can never be in a happy relationship with someone? Have you loved someone and got hurt in the process? Have you hurt others? Or are you just afraid or hate yourself?

Life will get better once you know the problem and can address it.
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>>35864696
I can't find one. I keep missing them. I keep hearing people meet girls on omegle, on r9k, everywhere. But where then? I don't meet anyone.

Any euro fembots. I'm a lonely robot boy. Be my gf please.
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>>35864696
I know what the problem is. I am a self loathing faggot with a laundry list of fetishes that involves mostly situations and no actual physical contact with other people. There is no way to really fix that.
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>>35864696
I hate myself and I'm disgusting.
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>>35865229
That's not a completely hopeless predicament.
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>>35865232
>I hate myself and I'm disgusting.

Yeah, pretty much this. I'm almost wizard age and I didn't take very good care of myself in my youth, so I'm paying for it now.
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>>35864696
>Have you loved someone and got hurt in the process?
Yes
>Have you hurt others?
By being a failure, yes
>hate yourself?
Absolutely

>Life will get better
No it won't
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>>35864696
I have never really gotten my heart broken as the only real girl I loved is still here and still a single virgin.
I do hate myself and I'd hate myself more if I'd get into a relationship before I could love myself because it will fuck with the relationship and the other person involved. I just can't appreciate someone elses affection if I can't see I'm even remotely worth it.
I also have zero chances any girl will like the real me, the unreliable guy that spends most his time dreaming about shit and isn't able to get anything done.
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>>35865704
I've never even fapped to 3D porn dude. I'm willing to hear any suggestions though.
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>>35864696
>Or are you just afraid or hate yourself?
This one. I don't care about life getting better anyway, as long as my health doesn't go even further down I'm fine
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>>35865998
You realize that you could use your disinterest in physical interaction to your advantage anon?
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>>35864696
Well I'm 35 and no woman has ever signaled she's attracted to me, ever. I tried Tinder for a bit but didn't get any matches so I dunno. What do you do when women avoid you like the plague?

Even worse is the ones at my work keep telling me I'm a nice guy and they don't understand how I'm single. Feels real fucking good when all the married women are throwing garbage platitutdes at you while all the single women won't touch you with a 10ft pole. I've given up completely.
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>>35864696
Every single girl I've been with eventually cheated and left me for someone else.

It's to the point where I'm so broken and jaded that when I meet new people (or girls for that matter), they think there's something wrong with me because I never seem to open up and appear guarded.

>"Why won't you love me back anon?" "Why won't you be vulnerable around me?"
>O-okay...
>Allows myself to become vulnerable over time and have feelings a few weeks later.
>"Hahahah thanks for giving me validation that I'm attractive anon, now I'm going to cheat and leave you for Chad over there"
>Blocks all communication and tells everyone how much of a beta faggot lose I am.


Happened way too many times. I'm not going to fall for that shit again.
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>>35864696

Fell in love with a girl and was with her for half a year and she finished with me on NYE 2017.

First person I've legitimately been deeply in love with. Would have given my life for her.

Have had many sexual partners since but I just use them until I get bored. I don't care that i hurt them because I'm still hurting.

Being attractive doesn't make me happy, I just want to feel the way I did when I had her.

She told me she loved me
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>>35864696
I have no way of meeting people and all the stuff I like are mostly solo activities.
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>>35866047
In what way? Putting all this effort into getting a girl in bed to be rewarded with ED? No thanks.
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>>35864696
>Why do you believe you can never be in a happy relationship with someone?

Because I'm an autistic piece of shit hikokomori who can't stand noise, bright lights, and social interactions.

>Have you loved someone and got hurt in the process?
No, never even had friends. I did get bullied all my school career. I've been a hiki since I quit at 17 and I'm 22 now.

>Or are you just afraid or hate yourself?

I just really hate myself. I'm not a human.

>Life will get better once you know the problem and can address it.

I know the problem and have tried fighting it. I've even been taking into special care for a rather long time. Nothing came of it because I get tired thanks to being an autismo very fast.

My social anxiety has developed so far that I can't even have a normal convo with my family. Killing myself soon probably.
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>>35865998
>>35865229

Having a sexless relationship where we both just get off to 2d on our own time is my fetish.
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>>35864696
No one wants to try with me.
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>>35866416
Good luck competing with the forty thousand other losers for the three girls who feel the same way.
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>>35866489
I'll settle for an below average homo desu
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I am in a happy relationship after 24 years of self-loathing, 9 as a NEET. I was afraid of getting hurt, that and I was physically revolting to the point where people made fun of me in the public. I was incredibly overweight, had severe acne and had severe anxiety. When I was 22 I started going to the gym and talking to everybody I could, I got made fun of but in a banter type way people at the gym were very kind to me when I stuttered or said something dumb. I met a girl on 4chan last year, we met up in Germany where she lived and we had a blast and we took each other's virginities. I meet up with her every 3 or so months, when I can afford it as I'm wagecucking hard now trying to improve my life.

I don't know, I guess I always thought I wasn't worthy of love because nobody ever loved me. I was fat, a dicklet and borderline mentally retarded. I was able to change the first and the last one through hard work, but anyways long rant long rant. I'd say the overwhelming majority here can change their problems but would rather make excuses, getting hurt and getting made fun of hurts. But being a shell of a human being hurts more.
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>>35864696
During childhood I never could make friends. I never made enemies either, which is good, but I ended up just existing in name and body only throughout my years as a kid. I just watched the world, and observing hurt and pain and negativity is a lot easier than observing warmth and goodness.

I can only ever see things getting worse. I don't trust anyone and couldn't open up to my own shadow. I've never felt anything but alone and empty.

It's almost comfortable by now. I'm not even sure I'm even capable of accepting a happy relationship, let alone forging one.

I just drift. I'm oddly comfortable just existing, even if it's hollowing. I can take it.
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>>35865998
>I've never even fapped to 3D porn dude.
Nothing wrong with that. Keep going your way.
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>>35866624
Nice role play blogpost
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thees tbqh phamyglya
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>>35866680
Yeah anon, if that makes you feel better. It's a lot easier to run away from reality isn't it? You can fix your problems but you're too scared.
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>>35866624
How old are you now? I've gotten /fit/ and am 22 now. I try talking to as many people as I can but I get tired very fast and it often results in me fucking up.

Fuck autism.
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>>35864696
>Have you loved someone and got hurt in the process?
Once. I do not know how to stomach that ever again. I almost killed myself.
>Have you hurt others?
My parents and my grandparents. I can not seem to sort myself out.
>hate yourself?
Whenever I introspect to any degree,.
>address the problem
I do not know what the problem is desu. Send help.
Everyone ignores me. The only time people don't ignore me is when they need something from me.
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I am a very hateful person. I don't think I could ever express love for anyone even if I felt it.
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>>35866806
24. It's all about chatting with normies, every possible chance. When I first chatted I brought up anime (yes kill me) because I was so mentally incapable of thinking of things to discuss with people. It's extremely tiring but it's something you have to force yourself to do, it's like grinding for xp. You have to do it even if it's shitty, but eventually it'll pay off.
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>>35864696
2 year e-gf relationship fell to pieces and she wants nothing to do with me anymore

i'm afraid i won't ever feel as strongly with someone else ever again
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Because I was and I break people's minds unintentionally.
Probably better for everyone if I stay away.
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>>35866879
>but eventually it'll pay off.
I have literal autism. I will never be on a normies level when it comes to socialising. Even just being in a school environment tires me so much that I can't handle it.

I just want one person to actually talk to so I can learn the basics. Not approach two random people a day and then have no energy to do anything else all day.
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>>35864696
In short i got hurt and i hurted someone.
I even got beautifull dream about perfect girl (character i didn't much cared about look).
desu i don't want use dating sites + bad camera in phone to make good quality pictures of me.
oh yeah i play video games most of days well.
pretty neet life.
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>low self esteem
>paranoid due to a long history of being rejected by society
>even if a girl claimed to love me i would overthink everything and never truly believe her
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>>35866991
Sorry for the late reply I was eating, yeah I'm nowhere near a normies level and I've been trying for 2 years. I would love to help you but really I'm still retarded still, have you tried some of the friend threads? I have a really good steam friend who's very sociable and normie, he forces me to voice chat and puts up with my autism. I'd say he helped me a lot to get used to chatting with others, as before him I spent quite literally 3-4 years without ANY social interaction besides like maybe my mom every once every few months when she woke up in the middle of the night.

>spam post
rip
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>>35864696
No girl has ever shown the slightest interest in me. Statistically, it should have happened at least a few times by now. There has to be something innately unattractive about me that I have no idea. I don't want to force that on anyone.
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Because I'm a true robot who is going to be homeless; the homeless are unloved.
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I am a boring unattractive autist who is not liked much by anyone. I cannot for the life of me see why someone would have a relationship with me.
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>>35867571
>have you tried some of the friend threads?
I haven't, but I will. It might be the only way. Thanks!
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been hurt yeah it sucks but i probably will die what they call alone lol

even though lots of robots consider me a chad or normie.

https://discord.gg/sq8at

come hang in our discord
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This is how it always goes
> someone shows some interest in me
> I'm hesitant at first but it's easy to gain my trust
> completely devote myself to them, share me deepest feelings and secrets
> before anything happens they're either not real or just using me to get someone else

I'm starting to believe there are no genuine people, or at least any willing and able to date me. I have to act like someone else to get someone to like me
I don't want to pretend. I want someone who wants me for me. I've been pretending for everyone. Because anytime I show my true self I get ridiculed. Fuck those people. Why would they think it's ok? I never did anything wrong to them.
The worst part is that they don't care. It's affected them as much as if they had stepped on a locust and were disgusted with the crunching sound it made. It's just another normal day for them, like this just how the world works.
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Heres how it goes for me
>low self esteem causes me to no think i have a chance with women
>eventually build up the courage to dedicate myself to atleast talking to someone
>social anxiety causes me to bail at the last second
the only girl who has made a move on me was a fat weeaboo girl that i thought was extremely fucking annoying
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>>35864734
Are you me? This is exactly how i feel.

I feel like i must be blind. It doesnt matter where i go or what i do i just cant meet people. Even if i talk to someone for a while we either never see each other again or theyre nothing more than a workplace acquaintance and we only speak about work.
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same reason why i have no human interaction
>mute due to anxiety
>bad at learning and taking direction
>mannerisms of a child
>mental illness (gross bouts of rage and self harm)
>life is in the gutter
>unhygienic and ugly
I'm just a huge mess, I want to die already
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I have confusion.
Confusion that becomes hate.

Confusion was originally dissatisfaction before.
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>>35864696
No. I have to love who they are and not who I believe they can grow to. But I am disgusted by people. They do not strive to develop the Ubermensche, they do not think through their actions, they say really dumb shit unironically. I rarely find people who don't disgust me on an existential level.
When I loved her, I did it for her. I did not expect a hug, or sex, or food, or a given reward; I did it because her smile meant that much to me. I just wanted to make her smile, because that alone was worth the effort.
But nobody ever did that in return. There was always something they wanted, always a follow-up. nothing given unless they wanted to gain something non-intrinsic to the situation, never honest about it.
I do not love; I am not loved; I settle for closing my eyes in the dark at night and pretending really hard until I fall asleep.
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I tried and tried and tried and tried.
Over and over and over and over.
Some things are just not meant to happen.
Something about me, I can't point out what, makes me a non-candidate for breeding
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>>35866624
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>>35864696
I have been alone since I was 14, I have no friends, complete strangers give me these looks of disgust when they see me, the majority of people make it clear they dislike me, some outright verbally abuse me and discriminate against me and no one gives a shit, I haven't had a job in years, I haven't seen my family in years, there is obviously something wrong with me but doctors won't do shit, my dad looks after me but I know he hates me and when he dies and I am homeless I will commit suicide
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I hate myself, and have a fear of intimacy, Anytime a girl approaches me (usually out of pity) I reject them hard and fast. I act like an asshole to the only people who could or would ever love someone like me, because even if i didn't reject them, I would never believe that they could love me because I can never love myself.
I enjoy being alone. The stress and depression is like a fetish, Its the only thing I know, like how people are more inclined to promiscuity (read:being a degenerate roastie) after sexual assault at a young age. I don't want to be happy, I don't want what I want. I need to be alone, I only hurt those who trust me, and I'm emotionally crippled. I only discuss my emotions by making them into a joke
tl:dr Who fucking cares about my feelings.
pic related
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I joke too much and am really immature, I don't take anything seriously and I find the idea of someone being attracted to me to be genuinely unreal and pretty funny.

I fell inove once also with some nerdy girl that was mad that I was a social outcast so she had me by her side a lot. Maybe it was because she wanted to bring a clown into her group Idk. The closest I got to her was staying up all night on multiple occasions talking to her. When I told her that I fell inove with her she was not feeling it, she tried being nice about it but I wish she gave me a straight "no" instead of some dodgy stay with me answer. Maybe that damaged me but I don't think it's possible for me to love someone like that ever again, it was draining and all I wanted was to see her smiling and laughing. It was all I was able to do but nothing made me feel better than taking days where she was almost in tears to having her laughing in tears for the remainder of the day. I think I spoke too much but yeah man, I'm not finding something like that ever again.
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>>35864696
>Why do you believe you can never be in a happy relationship with someone?
Because I objectively don't deserve to be in a relationship. I don't have the physical or social qualities. I'm 4/10, overweight and balding, with minor astigmatism and crooked teeth and basically a non-man. I have 0 normalfag interests and talking about numbers theory, third-gen warfare or even pleb-tier, entry-level classical literature with a female is the romantic equivalent of anheroing with a 12 gauge in a septic tank. Some people are just made to suffer in the mud and shit and kill themselves alone and unwanted when their parents pass away.
>inb4 jus b urself mane
I don't have "social anexity". I'm myself 24/7.

>Have you loved someone and got hurt in the process? Have you hurt others? Or are you just afraid or hate yourself?
I remember Gendo's rant in EoE. I feel the exact same way. The difference is that I never had a wife, no kid, no ayylmao clone to listen to my rant or any relevancy to the world whatsoever.

>>35869724
>I hate myself, and have a fear of intimacy
These too, but it doesn't really matter, since I don't get approached so there's nobody to fear intimacy with.
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>>35864696
I want to know if the op who keeps posting threads about how everyone can find true love with rem pics has found true love.
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because men do not have empathy.
because men do not think of women(male) as people
ive had a few relationships, i always cared more. always gave more. people dont even like being happy, you cant be happy? its like everyone has thuggish prison mentality. its sad, and its boring. i just want kindness and honesty.
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>>35871258
>because men do not think of women(male) as people
I wonder why that is :^)
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>>35864696
Because it all stems from a fairly simple reason which branches into several which in turn make that first problem impossible to fix and several other key factors also impossible to fix
Essentially it's a dead end
Combine that with my inability to relate to someone without becoming suspicious of their "ulterior motive" and putting enough trust into them is also impossible so again a dead end with no point in even trying it's a doorway with a brick wall behind it in a hallway full of them that goes on endlessly in all directions
I'd say this is the case for most if not everyone here in some shape or form
whether or not they learn to accept it rather then try to fight it remains to be seen.
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>>35871315
your sheltered and myopic life is no doubt full of wonder, piece of shit.
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>>35871258
I feel the same way. I've always cared more, put more effort into it, been more open, but last time I met an anon here who had similar feelings about honesty, kindness, loyalty I was being catfished so I don't really believe you.
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>>35871465
Lmao mad tranny freak, you're not even human at this point. Isn't it time for that mental breakdown and suicide you've undoubtedly been planning?
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>>35864696
I don't really know. I like others and want to help them whenever I could, but I never trust others and somehow unable to share my interest with them due to paranoia.
I honestly don't believe about others' honesty and even once seriously ask my mom why she loved me
Basically I'm fucked up
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>>35871513
Fuck you leave the tranny alone. She's more capable of love unlike you, fucking asshole
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tl;dr lazy bitch

I'm noncomittal, don't have a job and am kind of afraid of failing in a manner someone could possibly remember me by. Also pessimistic or perhaps just flat-out dense in regards to discerning if someone likes me, not that I'd ever express a like in someone else for fear of making them think less of me (ew he's a perv or he's a loser or etc. etc.)

been hurt twice, deserved it both times (second time significantly less so but still did something I should not have done but honestly we were both guilty there pretty hard)

I'm pretty sure I've caused no long-term hurt to anyone

I dislike myself

I'm really bummed out I ever liked fantasy-related stuff as a kid, this world has advanced to the point of being boring as hell despite being relatively healthy. Finding a point to live beyond immediate obligation to family and self-indulegence is damn hard and I feel petty as fuck.
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Pic related is my source
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i'm boring
my life is boring
my personality is boring
my voice is boring
my face is boring
i don't do anything
i don't want to do anything
i don't want to do nothing but i can't find anything to care about
i just sleep and do nothing
i wish i had anything but whenever i'm presented with something i get bored and stop caring
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>>35871465
>>35871258
>do weird shit to your body
>have an enormous chip on your shoulder that you can never let go
>get mad when gay men want to date men and straight men want to date women
???

you did it to yourself, all of it

you complain about people not having empathy but you lack empathy too, you want people to bend to your whims and like you and kiss your dick just because you have brain problems
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>>35871502
>felt like I met someone I could be friends with
>it insisted on being a she and she wanted a relationship
>felt like I would lose a friend if I didn't reciprocate after a while
>realize after I got involved that my initial apprehension of the whole idea was very well founded because I wasn't ready and neither was she
just fuck my shit up
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>>35864696
I've hurt the only person who has ever made me happy.
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>>35864696
Because I don't have enough to offer to get someone to be with me for an extended period of time. I am not wholly sure what women want, but I know it's not me and that whenever they have thought it was me it turned out that they thought I was someone I am not.

Yes, but I have not been hurt as much as most people.

Yes, but they deserved it. Like the girl that was all up on me even though she had a boyfriend, fuck her I am nobody's plan B.

I am afraid of opening up even though It's all I really want because I know from experience that opening up makes women lose interest in you as a man.

I hate my self sometimes for being a lazy sack of shit but I am not wholly without merit. I admire my ability to put off short term pleasure for long term gain for example.
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there are zero positive attributes about me for a relationship

there is zero reason why someone would want to be in a relationship

i am one of the most bland empty sadsacks around
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>>35871834
What does that have to do with my post. I'm sorry that happened to you anyway.
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>>35864696
I'm afraid to get hurt. I'm afraid to be betrayed. I'm afraid of being not enough. I'm afraid of being too much. I'm afraid I'm not worthy.

I have so many insecurities when it comes to relationships. I hate the idea of dating. I could never go through the process of falling in love with someone only to find out they didn't feel the same.
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I'm not Chad so I can't.
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>>35864696
I dislike my own body so I'm working on that, but I'm also an antisocial cunt who goes out of his way to have no friends. My personality sucks too so there's no hope there.

Logically, there's no reason for anyone to like me enough to pursue a relationship with me.
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Its always a self esteem and maladaptive learned behavior problem isnt it?
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>>35872797
no? because other people have to like you too lmao

self-esteem, who gives a shit about self-esteem if no one else likes you. you can have all the self-esteem in the world but you still need someone else to reciprocate, to validate oyu.
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>>35872832
As long as you aint a psycho Im sure there are plenty of nerdy girls who like robots, you just have to be willing to not be driven by ur penis
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>>35864696
The idea of me being in a relationship seems cartoonishly weird. I don't even hate myself or anything, but I can't imagine myself in that circumstance while remaining grounded in reality.
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>>35872882
>As long as you aint a psycho
no

you don't understand
there's such a basic misunderstanding

i am not psycho

i am the opposite
i am BORING

i have nothing going on
my life is EMPTY
i DO NOTHING

i don't know how to change, it is impossible to do things or care about things when you're so tired and lazy and constantly worrying about every single fucking minute movement and thing yoiu do or say because years o0f bullying caused you to gain such a fucking warped self-conscious mindset that you erased any trace of personality from yourself because you were afraid of being considered weird

it cannot be fixed, not at this point in life

i am DAMNED to be alone there is 0.0000000 chance i will ever have someone who enjoys my company because i'm so god damn fucking passive and inoffensive in every regard i have no opinions about anything that matters i have no hobbies no taste i am a FUCKING MANCHILD THAT DOES NOTHING ALL DAY EVERY DAY FOR YEARS AND YEARS BECAUSE DOING THINGS PUTS YOU AT RISK OF SOMEONE MAKING FUN OF YOU AND LAUGHING AT YOU AND OSTRACIZING YOU, SO IT'S EASIER TO DO NOTHING EVER
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>>35872947
Sounds like u already know what the problem is

Start doing things

Ive been /foreveralone/ since forever until today

Trust me u can even find a suitably boring waifu if u give it a shot
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>>35872985
>Start doing things
man
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>Why do you believe you can never be in a happy relationship with someone?
I don't like being vulnerable I guess. Friends come to me with their problems, apparently I give somewhat decent advice, but I never feel comfortable expressing my issues with them even when pressed about it. On top of that I have a bad habit of taking compliments negatively, feeling like they're being patronizing when I know it's just me being dumb.

I've thought of seeing a therapist but I can't afford it. My parents would probably support me if I wanted to see one but that brings me back to the first problem, I don't like people knowing I'm having issues. I know I should, I'm just putting it off for now. My endgame is to graduate college, continue networking, and then see about addressing that shit once I have some free time in my schedule I suppose.
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>>35872993
You either want to be happy or you dont senpai
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>>35873110
i guess i don't then

you really don't understand, you can't just say "start doing things"
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Love and friendship are just memes from Disney cartoons. There's no point forming relationships with other human beings, they will just want something then leave once they get it or stop getting it or someone else provides it better. It's best to just view all relations to other human beings as business transactions. If and when I meet another human who has something that I want other than money, maybe I'll put in the effort, even then it probably won't be worth the investment. It usually isn't.
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There was a girl that I was obsessed over. Everyone one thought we would be a perfect match but never said to both of us when together. We where very close friends and I would have been find if it stayed like that. Eventually she found I was interested in her. She was either so not interested or something that she kicked me out of her life after that. I guess I still haven't recovered
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>>35872947
anon, I am exactly the same way and it fucking sucks. i just go along with everything and i'm constantly mute as a result of bullying. i dont know how i feel about anything anymore, i just sit back and take it really. and socializing is fucking exhausting since i overthink everything so i can avoid being judged. i fucking hate people.
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