you have -4 seconds to explain why you aren't training BRAZILIAN

>>35838174
I just get real nervous about meeting people.

>>35838174
If I had the willpower to do BJJ, I wouldn't be where I am

i want to learn how to fight with a bo staff instead

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>>35838363
>Go in
>Tell them you want to do martial arts to be more confident
>They'll be super nice and accommodating

>>35838395
>Show up for 1 hour
>Don't even have to fight for the first few months
>???
>Black belt

>>35838396
>Not even a katana

Why are you here?

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I'm about to do another kind of martial arts but I'm really nervous. It's ninpo, which is a traditional Japanese martial art that ninjutsu is a section of, and my training will involve rolling, blocking, punching, dodging and sword training. I went before for a few weeks and liked it but I'm going to get serious into it now. How much training will it take for me to get good? I've heard that generally after 2 months of martial arts training you can apply the skills you've learned to real fights, is this true?

>>35838541
i've already mastered the katana

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I already train for another martial art in a dojo.
I have no interest towards said sport.
My funds are limited.
My time is limited.
I do not wish to put this over other tasks such as college classes.

Enough for you anon or should I go on?

>>35838623
Well, not all martial arts are created equal. Sometimes it will take more and some will take less. BJJ is good for real fights because you will have drilled the moves over and over in live sparring. Krav Maga is too dangerous to try live, so there are more nerves that will need to be overcome when you actually want to use it. I'm not convinced that you can use anything outside of boxing, judo, BJJ, muay thai/kick boxing outside of a dojo and expect to win.

Good is a relative term. As far as making solid progress, you should do anything at least 3 times a week. I wouldn't go around look for a fight (period) for at least multiple years after you start.

>>35838659
>Poppy instead of Lulu

You need more help than you know

It costs money. Money that I don't have. Also I'm fat so I wouldn't be able to keep up with everyone else.

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>>35838174
>using martial arts as a way to socialize
>as a NEET
>mfw NEETs lack the DISCIPLINE to follow a martial art
>mfw no instructor respects you because you admit that you are a NEET

>>35838174
I don't consume anything or engage in anything that Brazil produces. On principle.

Fuck that shitpile of a country.

i already train Japanese jujitsu. its the best, bjj is for fags.

italiano

>>35838174
Gotta say OP knows what he's talkin about. I do BJJ, Muay Thai and MMA and starting it all made me more confident in general. I'm not a fucking behemoth (about 5'6") but I played a fair bit of rugby and the guys I'm able to take on are definitely a good 30 lbs heavier than me.

BJJ is also surprisingly useful in a real fight. Do the right thing you lazy assholes and learn to defend yourselves.

>>35838541
>Tell them you want to do martial arts to be more confident
lol I would never do that

>>35839089
Some guy who relied heavily on that shit came to try sparring at an open mat session with some of us guys who do BJJ.

I'm not exactly an expert in BJJ (fairly new) but this guy came in talking about how much experience he had and how great he was and he didn't last 40 seconds. Worthless.

>>35838174
It's literally the normiest combat sport next to boxing.

Ever since this last decade when the UFC became mainstream, everyone was suddenly a BJJ expert and everyone flocked to martial arts gyms to train in BJJ.

>>35838817
>>35838623

Absolutely not, BJJ is a meme sport. You win by hugging someone on the floor for 15 minutes. It's great in the UFC and MMA, but those are sports.

You should still learn basic takedowns, throws and takedown defenses, but don't roll around on the floor like a retard which is what BJJ teaches.

Japanese Ju Jutsu, on the other hand is useful in real fights. BJJ is just a sport version of JJJ. When the Brazilians started teaching Ju Jutsu to themselves from Japanese immigrant they removed the striking techniques that targeted vital areas as well as the use of small weapons.

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>>35838844
>Apply for NEETbux
>Use it on BJJ

>>35838996
Just because NEETs are clever enough to dodge the rat race that is wageucking doesn't mean that they're unable to find the discipline to engage in the arts. Be it instruments, martial arts, or the culinary arts, a NEET will find that the ample amount of time that they have can serve them better than the precious weekend that the wagie strives for during the entire exhausting week.

>>35839045
>Most beautiful asses of any women in the world
>Hosted the goddamn OLYMPICS last year
>Care about the environment and culture of the world
>Super powerful GPD

>>35839089
Gook Jiu Jitsu is on the same tier as Akido. It's a bunch of otakus who think that "muh wristlocks!" can counter any more in the entire world. There's a reason that you never hear about famous 3Js in the UFC - they're all a bunch of hacks.

>>35839167
You can tell how much more alpha this man is than anyone else in this thread.

>>35839172
They'll give you a little questionaire that asks why you would want to join the academy. You can select more than one reason.

>>35838174

Blue Belt here. I have no money to train ;_;

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>>35838174
>you have -4 seconds to explain why you aren't training BRAZILIAN JIU JITSU right fucking NOW
Because Catch wrestling/shoot wrestling is much better and more effective. We don't need no gi either.

My style > your style

>>35839260
>muh UFC

UFC is a sport, not a real fight.

and even then, there hasn't been a Gracie champion in decades. The top fighters and champions in recent years are primarily strikers and non-BJJ grapplers.

>>35839320
Shoo Younapi Shoo!

How old is too old to learn any kind of martial art?

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>>35839228
I live in Japan and I train in mixed martial arts.

I have never seen a Japanese Jujutsu practitioner that could actually fight and not just do kata. Not talking shit on the art. I just haven't seen it. Maybe all the "masters" are all too old or dead, but I haven't seen it in the scene here.

The best grapplers I've seen are always wrestlers and brazilian jujutsu guys or judoka

>>35839260
35839167 here. I'm not trying to sound like I'm bigging myself up. I just don't see anyone doing themselves any favours by walking around not knowing how to defend themselves and/or others in the slightest.

>>35839228
JJJ on its own loses to fucking everything. Anyone who does BJJ definitely learns some takedowns or the person teaching them is a fucking moron.

Every fucker I've seen doing JJJ immediately goes for some bullshit wristlocks that only work if either the guy they are against is a massive pussy or has the most inflexible body on Earth. Every other time they get destroyed.

>Moved around too much. All my friends are brown belts now. Still get the best of them when we roll.

feels bad man.

>>35839320
No-gi BJJ. It's doing BJJ, without the gi. A crazy thought, I know, but some people have actually considered that people don't wear gi all the time.

Wrestling is great, don't get me wrong, but unless it's paired with something else in a proper fight it's gonna be over real quickly and not in your favour.

>>35839320
What the fuck is catch wrestling and where the fuck can I learn it?

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>>35839457
I train in Shooto, which I prefer over brazilian jujutsu.

It's a great grappling form. It teaches you an aggressive top game focusing on wrestling while also possessing a myriad of submission locks similar to brazilian jujutsu.

>>35839458
I'm training it in Osaka, but there are places to learn it outside of Japan too. Erik Paulson does shit in the US iirc.

The art itself originated in Europe, so i don't know why it's only nips who know it now.

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>>35839228
BJJ is a niche sport for patricians.

>"omg anon look! I have le eye of le tiger! xD" - Girl who's done karate for 4 years
>"Haha, look at anon, he doesn't know how to kick or punch!" - Dudebro who does kickboxing

If you are against one person, BJJ is effective because 95% of fights go to the ground or have a takedown in some capacity. If you're against more than one person or they have a weapon, you were cucked from the beginning. PROTIP: It's easy to punch someone from a dominant position

>>35839320
>Shoot wrestling

Everybody already knows that a gun is more effective for self defense

>>35839404
>People will cerebal paulsy train BJJ
>Paraplegics
>Middle-aged beer gut guys will come in to try to experience the thrill of a fight again
>You can keep earning degrees on your black belt -> red belt at age 69

>>35839413
3J is to grappling what boku no piko is to classical paintings. They're just not in the same class

>>35839430
Of course not. If you are only looking for self defense, you should get a gun though. None of us are going to fare well against somebody with a weapon or somebody with friends

>>35839457
No gi is partisan, but I don't believe that the earth is flat

>>35839413
MMA and grappling are sports, Jujutsu isn't.

It's taught to the Japanese police as Keisatsujutsu and Taiho Jutsu

>>35839228
>You win by hugging someone on the floor for 15 minutes. It's great in the UFC and MMA, but those are sports

Top lel. Even if you needed to use striking to win a fight, grappling can put you in a position where you can do that completely uncontested.

>>35839545
are you the anon that runs a bakery as a side job? where can i get drugs in osaka, kyoudai?

>>35839565
But you'd think in a sport that involves both striking and grappling techniques that traditional jujutsu would stand a chance, huh?

>>35839548
> implies I can get a gun in the UK and carry it around on my person

Not all of us have the liberties of being able to do such things. Over here we're not even allowed tasers, pepper spray, any of that. The best we can do is learn unarmed methods and if there is somebody with a knife or a gun, I'm not going to die over saving my wallet.

Most I'm probably gonna have to defend myself from is rowdy drunk students at my uni anyway.

>>35839430
>JJJ on its own loses to fucking everything. Anyone who does BJJ definitely learns some takedowns

And on the streets you're going get stabbed in the liver & then stomped in the back of the head by 4 other dudes.

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>>35839631
>And on the streets you're going get stabbed in the liver & then stomped in the back of the head by 4 other dudes.
Against 4 guys with knives, I don't think any martial art would help you.

>>35839602
Yup, that's me. You can get drugs from certain foreigners (especialy nigerians) or the yakuza, but I wouldn't recommend either and unless you have a good connect, drugs are very difficult to find.

Because I concealed-carry.

>>35839404
you're ever too old, and bjj is rather low impact and really heavy on learning and applying knowledge. it's the best "hobby" martial art

>>35839320
>catch
pretty memey desu, just wrestle and do bjj like a normal person

>>35839631
ITT: people who don't have the sense to back down from a life-threatening situation.

If I'm up against a knife, what fucking idiot would attempt unarmed combat? They can have whatever they want from me. Not worth dying over.

Just because you know a martial art doesn't mean you have to use it if doing so is going to kill you.

>>35839631
The only martial arts that can stop 4 guys with knives from doing whatever they want to you are called "running the fuck away" and "having a gun."

i actually would like too, but i'm too embarrassed about how weak and unathletic i am.

>>35839610
Jujutsu simply isn't a sport.

To put it into perspective, the international Judo federation was formed in 1951.

The Ju Jutsu Federation was formed 47 years later, even though Judo is a younger martial art that came from it.

>>35839260
>questionaire
oh ok that's a little more reasonable

>>35839654
What's the best martial art to study if I was living in Japan?

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I actually had class today but decided not to go due to rising depression.

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>>35839206
Armchair expert porn is the sweetest nectar on the planet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qxHARgZFgo

>>35839625
If you're scared for yourself and you must do martial arts, you need striking and grappling. You're pretty cucked though.

>>35839656
You never get to wrestle with qt3.14s because you carry

>>35839683
If you're beta enough to not TRY unarmed combat, then you are the one who actually deserves to get taken out of the gene pool.

>OMG like stop xD
>I found this knife in my mom's knife cabinet, can I have money for anime and manga?
>tytyty daddy teehee

You are an unrespectable scared bitch

>>35839730
You are the perfect white belt then! You're like a sick person who's too intimidated by a hospital. They will give you tools, guidance and companionship to get from where you are to where you want to be. Even if you wanted to do a martial art for spiritual reasons, they'd give you the distance and respect you need in order to do that.

>>35839814
>You never get to wrestle with qt3.14s because you carry
Who gives a shit? Self-defense is about decimating your enemies, not playing the fucking clown with some cunt.

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>>35839786
>What's the best martial art to study if I was living in Japan?
Iaido.

I've never trained it but I've witnessed one session. It's just a bunch of qt asian girls with real japanese swords doing shit like meditation and battojutsu. Not a single male in the class.

I want to start either Judo or BJJ. I'm 18. Which one do you guys recommend? Striking martial arts are not really appealing to me.

>>35838174
Also applies to boxing, kickboxing, wrestling, or any other combat sport.

No weaboos, "martial arts" like Tae Kwon Do and Karate don't count

>>35838174
I do bjj. Mckenzie Dern is fit as fuck

>>35839870
Isn't owning a katana illegal in japan?

>>35839206
This. Traditional martial artist, with rare exception, are shit tier nowadays because of the mcdojo boom of the 80's/90's

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>>35839712
True. We call it nike-fu

>>35839748
That's why your lineage is so important. You should be able to trace it to Helio Gracie who can be directly linked to the founder of Judo

>>35839786
Personally, I would recommend something ancient and dank. Find a real, comfy dojo and train under a 100 year old guy whose style is about to die out. It may not be as useful in a fight, but you'll have aligned chakras and you'll walk on water or some shit.

>>35839787
That sucks, anon. I've had 100% rate of feeling better after class though

>>35839857
Then do BJJ for a reason other than self-defense. Martial arts don't line up 100% with self-defense. You don't do musical arts for self defense.

>>35839875
BJJ
>Don't get thrown onto the mat as much
>Easier to find competitions
>Much more technique to learn

>>35839875
Both are different.

BJJ has a stronger emphasis on taking your opponent down to the ground with you, and ground techniques.

Judo on the other hand is more about throwing your opponent to the ground, and staying on your feet.

If you want to be a complete grappler, ideally take both.

>>35839786
It depends on what you want out of martial arts, anon.

Kendo, Kyudo, Iaido, dozens of styles of Karate, Judo, the sky's the limit.

I would personally recommend Judo and Kyokushin karate as well as Kyudo. Kyudo is archery mixed with meditation. Kyokushin karate is full-contact sparring with no protection. Judo is incredibly popular and useful.

>>35838174
I'm too fat to do any kind of martial arts without looking stupid. Working on it though, I have a solid month doing cardio at the gym and have lost 12 pounds. Thanks for trying to inspire others BJJ anon

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>>35839991
The katanas used for iaido aren't sharp. You're still not allowed to carry them in public, though.

If you're in Japan and want to be truly strong though. You must learn professional wrestling/catch wrestling. It will overcome any other fighting style. Strong style is undefeatable style desu.

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>tfw trained at a McDojo for years.

The guy had given himself loads of black belts in styles of BJJ and Karate that he had made up. I was too too naive to know any better.

Always keep an eye out for McDojos, kids. Especially in this day and age where everyone claims to have fought in MMA competitions.

>>35840015
This. Judo, BJJ and wrestling are all essential to a complete ground game.

I go to an MMA gym that teaches boxing, kickboxing, wrestling and BJJ. I study it all but mostly compete in kickboxing. Tried a few kyokushin tourneys those guys can bang but their ruleset disallows punching to the face so they tend to develop bad habits that would get them knocked the fuck out in a real fight

>>35840099
I too was a mcdojo victim until I walked into a legit boxing gym. I feel for you anon I thought I knew some shit and learned real quick. Been boxing for three years now feels great

>>35839654
>Against 4 guys with knives, I don't think any martial art would help you.

>>35840207
>>35839654

Clicked reply too early.

Krav Maga is what you're looking for.

>>35838174
I've tried martial art when i was younger: hate it.

>>35840046
I think having the support structure of a BJJ gym helps more than trying to do it alone. You can only spend so many hours on a stationary bike before you get bored and find a reason to quit. You can spend 50 years trying new ways to pass the guard and get the choke.

>>35840077
You can catch this dick in your mouth. What the FUCK is catch wrestling?

>>35840099
That webm made me feel a certain kind of way.

>>35840100
When you train kickboxing, do you get hit in the head? I fear for my longevity doing it even though it'd be so useful and cool

>>35840124
I could take you, pussy

>>35840230
Krav Maga is a Hollywood meme. You would try to grab somebody's gun and the other three would just start stabbing the everliving fuck out of your liver. I suggest you practice by taking the closest knife and slitting your own throat.

>>35840230
If 4 guys with knives want my wallet, then I'm giving them my wallet.

Martial arts that teach you to defend against several opponents with guns/knvies are cool, but unless you're some soldier or need it for your job, encouraging someone to fight in those situations in stupid.

>>35840268
>What the FUCK is catch wrestling?
Not the anon you're asking but catch wrestling is a grappling style that originated in Britain. It's very similar to BJJ, but is more wrestling oriented and has a shit load of footlocks and leg locks, which they're known for.

Ken Shamrock, Kazushi Sakuraba, Josh Barnett, shinya aoki are some examples of famous catch wrestlers.

It's almost a dead art with very few people teaching it, except in Japan, where it's popular for some reason

>>35839999
>BJJ
>>Don't get thrown onto the mat as much
Do you learn throws in BJJ? Judo actually is more interesting to me because of them but the reason why I'll go for BJJ is because Judo seems kinda harder to get into when you are my age or older.

>>35838174

I don't need to learn how to fight from some guy with a pony tail, a G.E.D, and who charges $150 per class at the mall.

>>35838174

I'd probably get omoplata'd by a qt which is why I practice it with close friends only

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>>35840270
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KH9-K6bkETQ

First 1:15

>>35840317
Sakuraba is such a monster. They all are. I guess I could see some validity. Jon Jones, Anderson Silva, BJ Penn, and Nate Diaz and beastly BJJ players though.

>>35840325
You might, it depends on the gym. Some are focused on sports, others are focused on self defense. Some places have instructors who know judo, others are run by a brown belt that's still learning somewhere else

>>35840333
>Ask for lineage and pictures of belt ceremonies
>Go somewhere with <5 degrees from Helio Gracie
>???
>Profit

>>35840361
>Be wrapped up by a qt
>She mounts you
>You get up on top of her
>Fap about it later

Who cares what happens in between those two events?

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>>35838174
i don't think there is anyone teaching it around here

that and i don't think i'd be good at fighting or even like it, i hate competing with other people.

>>35840594

>100kg a busty girl
>grip extra tight so she can't "escape"

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>MFW 6 ft 6 & 260lbs
>Never gonna need to learn meme-defense, just plain old bareknuckle boxing will do

I've been doing muay thai and BJJ for three years now

I'm autistic and fear looking stupid, also I generally lack the understanding of to get into anything

>>35840810
Both of these aspects are trainable skills and you'll never get any practice if you avoid every activity that employs them

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>>35840632
There are classes and there's competitions. You can spar in class, but it would be casual and it'd be more like learning how to do the moves in context. You never need to sign up to actually compete.

>>35840715
You'd be like every other guy at the school. A lot of guys will take out their frustration on the girls they roll with. They get good at locking you down so you can't get all your weight on them.

>>35840764
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DL7SsnmC7R8

Whatever you say, buddy. You'd get wrecked by a 5'5 guy who knows what he's doing.

>>35840769
Based

>>35840810
You just need to survive the first 3 months. At that point everybody, including the body builder who "just wants to dominate people," will struggle to understand how much they don't know.

>>35840869
I am aware of this yet my fear stops me from fixing this
>>35840938
Three months sounds like a lot when the idea of even stepping in the door is daunting

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>>35840994
Do you have another autistic friend that you could do it with? They might have you two work together and have an instructor only come by to correct you.

You could wait outside for a class to end and, as they're coming out, ask one of the blue or purple belts to introduce you to the academy.

>>35841122
The closest I got is my friend whos going to college soon and is saving for a car, probably has more important things to worry about than making me feel less autistic doing bjj

>>35841151
I'll tell you this: it's not exactly abnormal to be afraid to go into a martial arts academy. If you explain to him that you want to take one free class and you want him to join you, I bet he'd consider it. It'd probably be more interesting than what you two normally do and he might just think of it like a one-off thing like going to the movies. Being concerned about you, I think that after one or two classes you might just enjoy it.

If it is something that you connect with quickly, it has the power to transform your life.

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Gotta bookmark this thread, OP. Thanks for posting, because I attended three trial-sessions in BJJ and had a blast with it. I didn't sign up though because my school schedule was almost 40 hours a week, so I had to choose between BJJ or videogames. So I went with what I was always passionate about. Now that my vidya knowledge is on a high level I'm thinking about to join BJJ training, thanks to your thread.

I also had a trial session in JJJ, and it had some noice looking counter techniques; but c'mon, who can pull that shit off against a brute or if you're completely shocked in a fight or flight moment?

What I really appreciated about BJJ is how you can always get out of a tight spot and acquire dominance in a hostile situation. Since my miserable life tought me to be overly defensive in my thinking, BJJ would be a perfect valve for it.

Again: appreciate your thread, promoting Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. As a skinny guy it is really useful, since the correct technique makes weight meaningless.

>>35841218
we don't hang out much anymore desu, we occasionally talk over skype nowadays

Do they allow knees in MMA? I used to do Sambo (technically MMA submissions but that's an uninteresting story) before my gym closed. There's an MMA gym very close to me, but I really liked the style I did beforehand. By knees I mean pivoting and pressing painful areas with them. I also hope they allow you to attack the legs.

>>35840099
>partial arts.webm

>>35841221
Ty man! I'm passionate about shitposting like telling people to slit their own throat if they do Krav Maga. They don't like that very much on shitddit

>>35841284
You know I want you to try it, right? I'll think of a reason you could and you'll think of a reason you can't. I'm an anonymous poster on an Iraqi Mancala cheat code board though, I'll never be able to overcome your mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20d7exjCpC0

I want you to just listen to this - they'll have more to say than I ever could. They're reaching out for you and they'll be your advocates. I hope you'll do SOMETHING, you know? You know how all these people on r9k are? I hope you do something.

>>35841400
It might depend. UFC doesn't allow knees to the head of a downed opponent (defined as stomach, back or on all fours). In a BJJ academy, you wouldn't be a guy many people wanted to roll with if it was always uncomfortable to go against you. In a grappling match, it would probably just be an advantage.

>>35841517
>They don't like that very much on shitddit
I'm an occasional lurker on plebbit and it doesn't surprise me. Some threads and boards are overly-sensitive, just like most assholes in real life.

Some boards here are infested with total faggots though, getting a total FB/plebbit/YT vibe again.