Why are all men in middle class relationships cucks? My parents

>>35649131
I dont know, and I share your feelings.

I see a lot of people my age getting into these sorts of relationships, and my dad is a total doormat too. It really causes me to cringe.

I guess they are maybe just that deperate for female attention and/or pussy. Are your parents still doing the dirty?

If I loved a girl, I'd do everything I could to spare her even the slightest inconvenience.

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>>35649305
> guess they are maybe just that deperate for female attention
once you have kids, women get so much power. They can bitch and moan for weeks to get their way, and ALL their friends will be on the womens side by default. I think after so many years of this daily torture men just give up for the sake of their kids. and really is a daily, day after day, week after week grind down, it' s like being in an invisible jail

>>35649131
She has the pussy, she makes the rules.

>>35649440
"if I loved a man, I'd do everything I could to spare him even the slightest inconvenience." -said no adult women ever.
Don't you deserve the same anon?

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>>35649507
you realize this ends up with everyone being unhappy right? including the pussy?

>Not rich enough to make it on their own
>Not hot enough to get women base on their looks

>>35649550
Women aren't interested in happiness or pleasure, they're interested in power and status.

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>>35649585
>women are retarded and shit in their own bed
yep, pretty much, thanks for agreeing.

>>35649131
What the fuck do you consider middle class? I make $120k and I said I was middle class and my friend who makes $40k was livid.

>>35649649

He's poor and he knows it, that's not on you

>>35649620
What they NEED on the other hand is being manhandled and relieved of all responsibility. Have you ever seen a happy stronk independent feminist womyn?

>>35649649
>you make $120k

What the hell are you doing on this board? How old are you and what do you do?

>I said I was middle class

Someone who makes $120k should be used to being more precise. You're upper middle class if you are making $120K

Your pal is lower middle class

>>35649649
depends on the country and area you are in and the total size of your family vs total income, but here it's really about 'middleclass' vaules or culture

>>35649649

A good test I've heard is, if you lose your job tomorrow, will you have to find a new one straight away?

If yes, you're working class.

>>35649528
I'd just be happy if she was happy.

>>35649649
well you aren't rich at 120k a year in the US, especially if it's family of 4.

>>35649746
>/r9k/
>family of 4

>>35649743
she take more everyday. You say that now, but wait 10 years.

>>35649700
>Your pal is lower middle class

$47k is middle class for a family of 4

>>35649724
Working class is lower class.
I have a feeling we will agree on that -- just wanted to make sure it was clear.

>>35649679
>He's poor and he knows it, that's not on you

No, I think he had a good argument that middle class should be around what most people make. People like me are often deluded into thinking we're middle class was the point I was trying to make.

>>35649700
>What the hell are you doing on this board? How old are you and what do you do?

I'm on this board because I grew up on 4chan and this is just where I ended up. I'm a software engineer in San Francisco at the ripe old age of 27.

>Someone who makes $120k should be used to being more precise. You're upper middle class if you are making $120K

Upper middle class is a better description, but it really fails to capture the difference in lifestyle in my opinion. I think the better distinction is between people who get paid by the hour and people like me who are salaried.

>>35649783
Depends on where you live.

LA/NYC/Northern Virginia/Chicago = lower middle class or poor

Midwest/Arizona/Reno=middle class.

>>35649878


Well yeah, middle America, the suburbs, etc, not downtown NYC/Santa Monica/wherever the rich of Chicago is

>>35649871
>I think the better distinction is between people who get paid by the hour and people like me who are salaried.
I don't think that has anything to do with anything. I'm 30 year old salaryman and make $60k and feel like trash compared to younger people like you making double what I make. ;_;

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>>35649131
>watching family sitcom
>wife is the smart leader of the family while the husband is a bumbling idiot,

>>35649929

I'm 26 and make 145k/yr. I live in a major US city though I don't know what the pay would be if I lived in the burbs, probably like 70 - 90k.

>>35650002

I'm 28 and I'm on neetbux. So fuck you, guy.

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>>35650002
NEVER EVER COMPLAIN.
my parents fucked me so hard with shitty job advice, fucking up my highschool and college by being possessive.
I'M SO MAD AT YOU MOMMM

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12 posters, 3 make over $100k

>>35649929
>I don't think that has anything to do with anything. I'm 30 year old salaryman and make $60k and feel like trash compared to younger people like you making double what I make. ;_;

My wife punches timecards at every job she has and there's all this fucking drama over whether or not she gets paid on sick days. You and I, brother salaryman, there's no question about our sick days. We're way more likely to have benefits, too, which is HUGE. I'm on medical leave now and without my bennies I'd be dead.

Also, don't feel like garbage over shit like money. Yeah, it's bullshit that you have to struggle more to make ends meet but I went from making $30k to making $120k in less than a year. It's determined by """market forces"""" so complex and outside your control they may as well be random. I also got the tall and white and well-spoken going for me so I figure at least half my salary is for bullshit reasons.

>>35649507
lol no. not how i grew up and not how i am now. i dont let my gf tell me what to do and she likes it. she pretends to act mad and i just dont care and she gets madder and starts laughing and then stops.

>>35650075
They derailed this good thread too. Fucking assholes probably aren't even old enough to post here.

>>35650075
I believe it, life is all so much luck, and 4chan sceaaws techie, so I'm sure some of them are programmers or something. I know people that grew up next to each other and ended up with a 100k difference in their salary, not from hard work or IQ but just where they started their first job, which they both just picked off a list.

>>35650002
I'm 23 and make 185k/yr. I live in a major US city too. Makes my dick k hard lying on r9k.

>>35649131

The only way to not be a cuck is to be the most physically attractive man the woman has access too. High population densities and the advent of tinder make this impossible, so the man has to have other benefits like status and material items.

>>35650101
I suppose we do have the benefits but salary to me just means free overtime for the company. We do get bonuses but nothing is guaranteed.
...now that I think about it, I actually got $20k extra last year but I also averaged 52 hours a week. It doesn't feel like it was worth it.
I wonder if those bullshit reasons are real -- I'm tall and white but awkward; I should really step up my game and see what I can make happen.

>>35650075
>>35650121
Weren't there only two? One 120k and the other 145k?

>>35649131
Betas sacrifice their dignity for a mate

It's disgusting

>H-Happy wife, h-happy life!

Pathetic

>>35649131

It's simple. You want the pussy to be happy so you get more of it. So you have to cuck yourself to keep her happy and yourself happy. The happy you make her, the easier your life will be. ALL women do is nag all day, every day about everything. That is all they have. Their entire personality is being a big bitch that you have to placate. This is why most guys HATE being around women. And the worst part is ALL women do this and yet they ALL claim that they don't and that they aren't like the other women.

To any woman reading this: yes, you are a fucking bitch and no you aren't special. Especially around your periods.

>>35650208

Bitter uggo in this thread.

>>35649649

Average salary in America is $50k, you are upper middle class at that salary. Also depends on where you live.

>>35650230
Reddit pleb white knight in this thread.

>>35649491
lol fug

life only ever gets worse it seems. I'm not one of those adult baby diaper fetishists but I wish I was still a baby- or even more preferably just never born

>>35650238
I heard it was $30k, can you post a source?

It's not that I don't believe you, I'm just curious.

>>35650238
>average income

no its the median income

>>35650312

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=average+American+salary

>>35650312

It's like $35k for the main head of income of the family, $50~k for a family

>>35650328
median is not the same as average idiot

>>35650312
>>35650238
>>35650182
>>35650157
>>35650154
>>35650101
Can you assholes go make your own thread for discussing what constitutes a middle class income and not derail this thread?

>>35650353

Median is actually better. It shows where you fall in the US. Billionaires and niggers in the US skew the average

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>>35650453
no average is better, when there are 0.01% of people making 6 billion + and 90% of people making under 250,000 median is useless. and if you disagree you are wrong

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>>35650841

What?

Falls in line with white America, niggers and spics on the low side, Asians, Jews, Indians on the upper end

>>35650841

Literally the exact opposite. If a handful of people have billions of dollars, and the vast majority of people have pennies, then a median income figure would show pennies as the result.

Learn math.

>>35649131
Why didn't you help your father unpack the car anon?

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>>35649131
Middle-Class people are extremely delusional imo. As someone who grew up dirt poor and was briefly homeless, there is a completely different atmosphere being around a group of Middle-Class people (like the people I interact with mostly nowadays). Manipulation is their forte and they lack assertiveness unless they know you are in a really weak position. Women are naturally better at this so they will always win these games. I'd love to be Middle-Class, in a way, but it's a double-edged sword. Plus it makes your kids grow up soft and emo.

Poor people generally tend to be either genuinely kind (whites & Asians), somewhat aggressive (working men), or just shitty (nigs and crazy hobos); but the point is you know what you're dealing with early on and it's more blunt.

So when people say they make x a year is that before taxes? Like the average is 50k before or after taxes. Does this include your return money?

>>35651394

Before taxes, it sounds bigger. Salary is a penis like competition

>>35649700
That income denotes a different lifestyle depending on where you live. I make 40k a year and can't afford jack shit. I live in a tiny studio apartment and am lower class.

>>35651432
I mean just as a general thing. Like when people say the average is 50kis it really like 38 or really like 62

>>35651080
but pennies(retaivle) is the result you retard. you don't even know what average(mean) and average(median) is I see.
the median would be the one person making 3,000,005,000 thats clearly not remelt to normal people. the average(mean) will be much much lower depending on how many people make 30,000. You can add as many people as you want on any place between 0 and 6 billion and the median WILL NEVER MOVE. Where the more poor people you add relative to the amount of rich people and the mean will lower. THATS WHY WHEN YOU HAVE 0.01% HOLDING 90 PRECENT OF THE MOENY, YOUR MEDIAN IS STILL IN THE BILLIONS. FUCK OFF

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>>35651667
it is always pretax.
Tax depends on your state and also if you hold property and if your state has high or low or zero property tax

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>>35649131
Even Chads these days are cucks. It is just the white man way in 2017 to be a cuck.

>>35649700
>You're upper middle class if you are making $120K

You're objectively poor if this is what you believe. $120k is standard middle class tier earnings. Upper middle class starts at say $500k.

$40k is working class.

>>35651667

Nobody making 62k is gonna say they're making$10k less

>>35651759
Is this that wrestler guy who was fimling his ex emo girlfriend getting fucked by a nigger?

>>35651757
Well with that in mind I make "86k"/yr but I do construction type stuff so it's not very glamorous

>>35649131
My parents are middle class.

My dad is a fat piece of shit that sits around and does nothing all day. My mom does all the household chores as well as going to work every day.

Your anecdotes and mine do not represent the totality of people. Stop talking like it does.

>>35651760
>$500k
lol no

>>35649871
I have a degree in software engineering, no internships though. How do I get a job in San Francisco dude? Help me out

>>35652397
fuck san fran. go to silicon beach instead.
actully fuck off from califoria, were full, go to Huston tech center

>>35652153

Do you actually understand what upper middle class is? Do you understand who the upper classes are?

If you aren't an aristocrat or a billionaire or ridiculously rich and famous, you're not upper class. Upper middle class is everyone who is rich but not important enough to climb up to the top.