Do you feel guilty about being a NEET? Do you ever feel bad that

>>35631578
yes and yes

being a NEET in your mid 20s is a fucking soul shattering nightmare

my parents are the reason i'm so fucked up. their stupid pride is the reason i never got into therapy or got any help in general growing up. they created this mess with their selfishness, they ripped me out of the void of nonexistence so i could suffer, all for the sake of cumming in vagina

>26
>share a room with little brother
>he's 16 and works at mcdonalds
>comes up to me last week fri night and hands me 20 bucks
>asks me if i can go see a movie because he wants to have a girl over
>walk to movie theater and die on the inside

It wasn't suppose to be like this

>>35631578
No, and no.
The only people who care about me "leeching" off of them are responsible for my existence and suffering.

yes but I just became a NEET and am quickly trying to stop because it feels like shit

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Yes, but I don't think it's rational.

Only in the sense that they weren't wholly responsible for the way they turned out either. None of us asked for this, not really, and yet here we are.

Manlet pic unrelated

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>>35631618
My story is similar. Not as bad since my brother is only 3 years younger but still it's pretty bad.

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>>35631578
No shame. It's a little depressing but most days are okay. My parents are accepting of me being on bux because I was hardworking at one point but they know I'm too fucked up in the head to hold a job or be successful in life. I life with some dumb faget who's hopefully moving out soon. I hope I can find someone who's more on par of a robot or a cyborg. I don't think I could ever live with a degenerate dude weed lmao wigger ever again.

*for the 2nd, it's a yes with a but

I only feel bad because they were a victim of circumstance, largely, as well.

They didn't prepare me for the world at all, but kind of convinced me that they had, which wasn't that hard because I'm a naive sperg.

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>tfw I can see that its breaking my dad's heart that I'm a NEET
>tfw it still doesnt bother me enough to convince me to change my life

Why am I like this?

>>35631578
Yes but I just can't motivate myself to finish school or find work.

I'm clever and competent enough to accomplish things but I'm horribly lazy and undisciplined.

I was going to enlist in army so they could put a foot in my ass and take some pressure off parents but I was medically disqualified.

Feels terrible becsuse Dad is a retired judge, and mom a dentist. My older bro is a drug addict and in jail tight now. Since I'm sane they we're probably counting on me to demonstrate how they weren't failures as parents but I just can't get my shit together. Just can't. Why?

>>35631675
Does he work? R u neet? Come feel with me

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>>35631578

Yes and yes

>21
>unemployed and starting uni
>spend literally all my day and night watching the monitor
>they still support me even though im shit

i feel so fucking bad, i hope i can repay my mom for what she did for me all this time

>>35631730
>they we're probably counting on me

No that feel. My oldest bro is a drunk thats estranged from dad, my younger sister had issues with drugs etc and could easily relapse, my youngest sister is still 16, My dad is counting on me and her at this point but I'll probably end up killing myself and he'll probably be dead by the time she makes anything out of her life

>>35631928
He works at the hardware store. I've tried applying for a ton of shitty jobs but so far only one interview that went nowhere. My family hates me and has for years now. I don't know why they didn't just kick me out on the street because I deserve it.

>>35632093
How old are you? Why do you think your family hates you?

>>35632181
20. I'm always told about what a massive disappointment I am. When I was a little I was blamed for a ton of shit I never did. I realize now that my family thinking I was a lil devil wasn't that big a deal but that stuff eats away at you when you're young. I don't have any friends. I feel sad and alone all the time.

I'm still young enough to the point where it's pretty normal for be to be living with my parents but it's no secret that they are disappointing in me

I honestly love them, compared to some of the horror stories I've heard about parents I'm glad I have such caring parents.

But after them having to put up with my older brothers: A overweight, legitimately autistic son who had a twin who has such crippling anxiety that he couldn't function in a normal school system I don't blame them for hoping that I would be a mentally sane person.

But nope, instead they got a narcissistic, introverted weeb who is very open about the fact that they are a weeb.

Oh well, they do the best they can and sorry about the sob story.

>>35631578

>20 years old
>been going to dient colleges for 4 years now
>nothing to show for it

I'm wasting my parents time, money, goodwill and love

I really want to kill myself but that would seem ungrateful.

i finished german high school equivalent at 16 then studied physics, dropped out, had some therapy, am now studying brain science shit and will likely be expelled for lackluster results

>>35632264
You're only 20 you'll come into your own. What interests do you have? Legitimate interests and when you do them the world shuts off for awhile.

>>35632507
I have no interest in anything. Which is one of the things my family hates about me. Sometimes I'll binge watch a tv show or read a book about plant biology but I always end up coming back to r9k or just sleeping.

>>35631730
>I'm horribly lazy and undisciplined
>My older bro is a drug addict and in jail tight now
> demonstrate how they weren't failures as parents but I just can't get my shit together. Just can't. Why?
>how they weren't failures as parents
>failures as parents

... crazy theory for you, Anon.

>>35631578
Every single day.

If you are physically capable of ending your NEET status do it now. Do it before it is too late.

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>>35632540
>If you're miserable just give yourself obligations that most people, especially people like you, don't enjoy and hope it magically gets better; because it will have to or you'll be fucked and wayyy more miserable!

>>35632531
This is your problem you need to try new things and find out what your passions are.

>>35632534
Asshole.
She cucked him and he lost his shit. And she was just an irritating shrew, there was nothing that could be done.

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I have transcended guilt, and instead, feel proud that I am NEET. I'm not shackled down by societal norms that say that I have to go to school, or get a job, or move out. Why should I do any of those things if I don't want to do them?

I get free money and can spend it on whatever I please. I have succesfully manipulated my mom so that she will never kick me out, so I never have to worry about being homeless.

I pity the poor waveslaves. They will never have a taste of what true freedom is like.

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>>35632580
Good, good; keep defending them and turn your rage at your own failures on an anonymous image board.

This will make you feel better and never have another shoe dropping.

>>35632562
I've tried a lot of things. Sports, school clubs, hiking. Most I can muster is a mild enjoyment. I want to be passionate but I never can be.

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I'm 22 so sometimes I feel that way. But my mom's weird as fuck.

>It's time to start thinking about getting out in to the world, Anon
>mfw
>Me: Hey mom, I'm gonna walk to the store
>Wait hang on what do you need to go to the store for? You don't even have your own car
>Me: I can walk
>Look anon just stay here, nothing at the store is that important
>mfw
>Anon if you're going to eventually be on your own soon so take this knife and put it in your pocket
>mfw
>Anon do you carry around that knife I gave you?
>Me: No
>Alright good
>mfw

>tfw I'm still mentally in highschool
>tfw I'm 26

Something needs to change bros

>>35632672
Your mom is my mom.

>>35632672

Your mom is my dad. Dude is scared shitless that I'll become a drunk or knock someone up

>>35632672

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPAfS8-wm8g&t=7s

ur mom isn't that weird me dude

>>35632706javascript:;
iktf
>Learn to stand on your own two feet and do things.
>No, no, not like that. You'll mess it up. Give me that before you hurt yourself.

>>35632600
Have you tried unplugging for a month? No computer porn tablet phone tv ect. Try to explore your mind and the issues you have. Porn is a huge one, since I've stooped watching it my mood has vasrly improved. I still fap but only using my imagination once every few days.

>>35632785
I spent 2 weeks camping. (Real camping, not family fun in the park) I enjoyed it, but you don't gain much from being a bushman. I'm not fit and I don't have any money for equipment.

>dads been disabled since i was 12
>basically just a neet and watches tv all day and does house errands
>tfw it honestly sucks having him around constantly but im still here at 26 now

i thought i'd be motivated to escape but im still here

>>35632584
Your mom will die eventually and then what? Whatever money she leaves will go to you? And then after that? Pathetic

>>35632733
>try to file own taxes
>where did my docs go?
>mom opened my mail and did it for me

This is beginning to sound like an epidemic.

Thank god I'm still 18 and still got my life ahead of me
Watching all these losers wallow in self pity makes me feel better about my life it's pretty great

>>35632905
im 19 and im a heroin addict, on suboxone maintenance(do dope on and off, pretty much just on subs so i never get sick) and i feel as though my life is already fucked up beyond repair. i am 19 fucking years old and already an IV heroin addict. i will never be able to forget the feelings and relief that opiates give me.
i felt just like you a year ago. shit can happen fast dawg, dont look down on people.

>>35632837
That's good. There's all types of fit anon. Work on your mobility and flexabilty. Do calisthenics. Make a routine and stick to it. You need a routine anon. Also eat healthier

Not at all, if you create a human being you should have to take care it for life. Some do this by raising their kids to be successful people and having good connections for them to reach social and professional success. For many of us our parents raised us to be dysfunctional social retards and can't pull any strings for us in the real world. So is it any wonder that rather than compete in the cutthroat capitalist rat race for scraps to pay some fat Jew to occupy another 4 walls elsewhere, we say fuck you to our parents who expect us to simply go make a living, demand they feed us and refuse to ever move out.

Not really but lately I feel very depressed about not creating anything. I just want to find some purpose.

>>35632957
Nobody owes you anything cuck. Stop blaming other people for your shortcomings.

>>35632941
Trust me, I know better than to inject that poison. Too many people in my life have OD'd on drugs and I'm never gonna take any. I've never smoked weed, cigarettes or drank alcohol outside of church.

>>35632317
> german high school equivalent at 16
is that normal?

Australian here, no one is younger than 17 who finishes high school

>>35631578
I can't stand being a supremely autistic neetfag. My brain is literally nonfunctional, and I fuck up even the simplest tasks.

>>35632968
Same here man. Are you usually creative? I feel like I'm losing my mind if I don't draw or write or create anything regularly. I'm in a real bad slump and I can't get out.

>>35631578
I'm NEET and I don't even live in the same state as my parent.
Why do you wage fags assume there is one way and one way only to live and survive?
Tell me why.

>>35631578
yeah, i feel guilty. my folks work hard to keep a roof over my (23 y.o.) head and i can't even find a job. not been trying very hard lately either because i've been feeling all down and sorry for myself.

gotta get my shit together soon though. it's not just the guilt that's bothering me about being a NEET, it's also the fact that i'm wasting my entire fucking life stuck in my bedroom. mental illness and all of that bullshit already claimed my teen years. that was (somewhat) out of my contorl, but i've got no excuse this time. just gotta discipline myself and try harder, ya dig?

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>>35632968
Not everyone is able to create things others will find valuable or useful, and contrary to all the self help guru advice like "follow your passion" bullshit, not everybody has the mental capacity to be passionate about an activity at all beyond a fleeting interest that doesn't translate into action. The key to happiness I have found is developing an internal compass of self esteem, self worth, or whatever you call it, and to learn to be ok with lacking any meaning or purpose in life, because there is none inherently, and sometimes yo're just too nihilistic to manufacture one and impose it on reality, for which is just that of being a biological organism designed to seek out food and sex.

>>35632995
My parents owe me everything just for bringing me into the world. Though I learned by now that is not something I can promote as a general philosophy, in my personal situation it is a virtue I live by, my parents owe me everything and I will take from them all I can, and I will never have children myself and will never be concerned with such things

I still regret the moment when i decided to be born disabled. Totally guilty man.

>>35633033
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhFL7w_iY78

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>>35633092
I make shitposts and this results in a feeling of fulfillment and happiness!

>>35631578
Well my current plan is to get in shape for the navy and hopefully make OCS with my math (S T E M) degree. I've lost 18lbs so far by just refusing to eat the junk my parents do. I just want ro be independent and raise a family one day. My insecurity from being a fat neet ruined what wasn't much to begin with.

I don't feel vad becausd my parents' advice is
>go back to school lol (they're teachers who are so far up their assholes that they eat, shit, then eat again all at once)
>just keep looking :^)
They think I'm having fun playing video games all day while I'm actually lying in bed waiting for it to be night time so I can fall asleep.

They are horrible parents and are extremely toxic. They play favorites but applaud themselves for treating us equal. I did everything right and got shit all my life while my brother is barely passing high school and tells them to fuck off to their faces and he's the favorite.

What the fuck man. This fucking blows.

>>35633051
Because your highest aspiration is to be the best parasite you possibly can be. The kindest human emotion anyone will truly give you is pity. You are in no way contributing and are in fact taking away from everyone else, and you don't even care because you're that much of a bitter, selfish, vapid cunt. The only way you can feel pride is by telling others how easy you have it because of them, which is just pathetic. You're pathetic.

>>35632878
>t. Wagie who can't manipulate the system

Quite a fucking dumb slave cunt, aren't ya? Go suck your boss' cock little bitch

>>35633033
>Are you usually creative?
No, but on the few times I tried I was pretty fullfilled and felt motivation for a while.

>>35633077
>Not everyone is able to create things others will find valuable or useful

This is one thing that holds me back so much.
I feel like I can't compete with other creators so why bother?

>>35633124
I did more than my fair share for years. I managed my depression and anxiety on my own and forced myself to function my entire life. So when things fell apart for me fuck ya I got my benifits.
Who do you think you are lol?

>>35633077
Again your parents owe you nothing. You are a leech and a coward. Show your parents the post you made about taking as much from them as you can. You won't cuck.

>>35633195
Not him but he is right about parents owing their children everything. Why are you so mad?

>>35633242
Nobody owes you anything. Why are you such a cuck?

>>35633187
Unless you're retirement age than you didn't do your fair share. If you're actually mentally ill then you need to be treated, not sustained. And I'm one of the millions doing the work that supports the system you should be thankful for instead of fucking smug about.

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>>35633180
>I feel like I can't compete with other creators so why bother?
Yes, as much as people like to bash others for "leeching" off others creative talent and not contributing anything of value, fact is there is so much available to just be content consuming and why bother competing tooth and nail for an audience, no one wants your shitty work, if you are talented you would probably be working for a company on their creative projects, or if you find INTRINSIC value in creating something just for yourself with no regard to if anyone else will ever see it, then by all means.

Take writing for example, you might like to read, and fancy yourself a good writer, but don't ever expect to make a living off it, or anyone to even bother reading anything except what you post on 4chan, because the world is completely staturated with writers. A similar argument can be made for NEEts in general, no one is knocking on your door begging you to come work, most of us lack the intelligence for the work that is needed, and so there is no place for us, except as passive consumers. I personally am okay with this, if I could get money somehow without working I would feel no need to create or contribute anything and be happy just consuming what others have made.

>>35633281
its the same system that fucked him up in the first place though

>>35633195
I tell them exactly everything I post here, you made me, you should have to take care of me until I die, or you die.

I owe them at least 55,000 Dollars coming out of Uni, some of which was damages and easily avoidable regrettable shit that I caused in my early 20's. The remaining being university fees of which I still haven't completed.
Lost all my motivation in the fourth year and my grades are suffering. Hopefully this fucking Comp Sci meme Degree will get me a decent job. I wish I went to Japan Like I always wanted to and taught English, Iv'e always been jealous of those people living as expatriates who get to experience culture outside their own country. The only joy I get living in Canada is playing Video-games and this $3000 computer I bought for it was hardly ever used for that.

>>35633242
You are entitled to nothing, ever. Everything you have could be taken away from you in an instant. This is true for anyone. But man would I hate feeding, clothing, sheltering, and supporting a child for 18 years just for them to think it's okay to leech off of me because they fucked up their life so badly they see life as a punishment rather than a gift

>>35632016
i have the same feels bro, itll change, we can move out this year

>>35633281
Why do you assume I'm not being treated? You don't know shit and you're getting all worked up because you know the time you spend working is pointless but you will never be able to change it or progress because you're not creative enough in the first place to be anything but a cuck for good ol mr Goldstein.

>>35633297
There are a myriad of ways to make it in this world, and people far more disadvantaged than him have become much more successful than him.

Yeah I do, my mother knows I don't have it in me to sustainably work or manage that type of life. Being productive at home and mildly happy is all she asks of me and to try and get ssi.

>>35631578
The only thing separating me from neetdom is my dad's stubbornness on finding a job and using my recently-acquired degree.

In a way I could, but I do help out a lot with chore shit in addition to helping grandma out for foodbank stuff to supply the house. In a way it's like having a part-time job except I'm grossly overpaid in foodstuffs instead of money. I don't have any social connections outside of my family and every time they remind me of this my depressive state gets worse for a while. I can't even bring myself to get up out of bed for a few hours even after waking up when it occurs. I've taken transit for three hours just for a part-time job application.

Overall I don't feel bad in the slightest. I am making efforts to end it, in spite of their poor treatment and mockery. They don't deserve my help, so I'm making efforts solely to abandon them. If they want to be shitty toward me then I will burn that bridge when I cross it first. They can see what they've lost when I'm not there to wash dad's clothes and watch the dishes like a hawk before my stepmom puts fucking food chunks in the dishwasher again because she's a pig-nosed kraut with no manners and no cooking skill beyond "throw stuff together hope you like it :):):) (say something or I'll throw a fit)", a stereotypical white woman to boot. Yes, I hate my stepmother most. Most of the conflict in this house is caused by her passive-aggression, mockery and lack of sincerity, in addition to my father's inability to put her in her place. I've had fantasies of smashing her fucking snout with my fist, with a wall, and so on. My dad won't cease with his bitching about how my mom fucked his life (I don't blame him but I've heard it over and over). I can't afford to live with these people for my mental health's sake, even if I pity my father for being a slave to vagina.

TL;DR: The straight answer to your question is that the negativity of my providers completely offsets any guilt I would normally feel.

>>35631618
Anon. I suffer a similar fate too. I hate not having my own room or privacy. I just want to fap to anime damnit!

>>35633356
luck does exist

>>35633329
I hope you never have kids.

>>35633329
kek
the triggered reditor see's life as a golden gift.
How fucking cute

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>>35633329
>they fucked up
>they were still under 18
>they don't see life as a gift

>>35633353
Because your mindset is overall unhealthy. My work, although insignificant, is required as a very small part of a very large whole to make a system run. It works for me, because it allows me to support myself, and supports others. Although it's a tiny, near insignificant contribution that could be done by basically anyone, it's done by me and I do it well. I'm not bitter about my boss making money off of my work, because I get money too, even if it's not my fair share, it's enough to support me and I'm completely okay with that. If I invest right I'll even be able to do a whole bunch of stuff I want to do later. I enjoy my work, and I'm friendly with my coworkers, and eventually I'll be able to have a family. I want that experience. I'm content because I don't have self-esteem issues that make me feel like I need my name in a history book to consider myself worth anything. And if you were creative in any practical and meaningful way you wouldn't have to rely on government assistance for support.

>>35631578
I'm living off invested inheritance to support my neet lifestyle.
If dad doesn't like it, he better un-kill himself and do something about it.

>>35633329

>everyone you love will die, even animals

>with each passing day your body becomes more decrepit

>some people are born with millions and never have to work

>other people are born in poverty and will never leave poverty

>most people born will know only suffering and then death

kek, such a gift, anon. i can tell how sheltered you are

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>>35633456
Whatever helps you sleep at night, wagie. Better get to bed soon, don't want to be groggy and low energy in front of your slavemaster.

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>>35633329
>gift
fucking chuckled

>>35633456
Jesus Christ I actually laughed for the first time today. How socially responsible of you, anon. Have fun being an actually physical embodiment of a cuckold.

>>35633432
If you think having all of your basic needs provided for isn't a gift in and of itself you seriously need some perspective. But please, be the cynical bad-ass we all know you are.

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>>35633456
Hello r/cuckhold!
I see you are definitely not fitting in here you little nigger.

>>35633478
It's Sunday tomorrow, dipshit. Guess you don't have to remember the day of the week when you spend all of your time telling wage-cucks off over the internet.

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>>35633505
>just be happy you're not sleeping under a bridge even though there are people born into billionaire families who will never know any kind of suffering, count your blessings! you should be happy to be another of mr shekelsteins urchins!

>>35633549
>he thinks people dont have to work just because it's sunday

>>35631578
Only because this world requires you to slave with jobs. I really wish somehow I could just never work a day in my life. Worst part about me possibly working is to what end? If I don't ever get married or even find a gf then what would be the purpose of me feeling miserable having to work? At least now I still got my games.

>>35633549
Little normie
Little normie
eat my poo poo
lick my but
and kiss my dick
you can suck my diarrhea
when it is green
little normie
little normie
go watch your gf
get raioed by nig noggie
while you cry and fap
little normie
out of my sight!

>>35633498
I will. I enjoy working for money. If anything I'm glad you were entertained, but I guess that's easy when that's all you strive for

>>35633588
>I enjoy watching my wife fuck her bf

>>35633505
>talks about perspective
>takes Jewish dick directly into his ass five days a week
>loves "muh system"

lmoa woh

>>35633588
Poooopi poooooop
shut up faggnon!!!!!
Peeeeee in your mouth!

>>35633555
"I literally cannot deal with any obstacles in my life because I never learned that life isn't fair"

>tfw you buy drugs off of the darknet and sell them locally while collecting NEETbux

>tfw you make more than a wagecuck who makes 18$ an hour

come at me

>>35633601
Yeah, no. I actually have no worries about that but I can see where you might assume all women are whores considering where we are. I said I was okay being a wagecuck because there's literally nothing about it that makes me unhappy.

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>>35633549
l had a hearty hearty chuckle

>>35633617
"I'm a faggot who thinks everything is precious"

>>35633580
5 star post nigger

>>35633659
I'm white.
You are the nigger shithead

>>35633617

>i'm proud of being cucked out of my most valuable resource: my time for whatever meager wage mr noseberg decides to give me!

>when i finally do have some free time, i spend it on /r9k/ condescending NEETs to feel better about myself!

>>35633603
I don't love the system, I love the results of it. It could be better but I'm okay with it. How am I taking Jewish dick in my ass when I enjoy what I do? Because they're making more? Life was never fair anyway and I'm glad I can be healthy and happy with where I am.

>>35633329
>Life
>a gift
what the fuck makes you think that? Are you some kind of retard?

>>35633673
I come on here because you guys have some pretty interesting insights, and it's usually pretty novel. Every post is made in the hopes that I get through to one of you guys as to how there's literally nothing wrong with having a job.

>>35633699
>I don't care if Shlomo makes money from me sucking his dick
>I don't care if Shlomo uses said money to fund politics that want my entire race exstinct starting with ny wife
>I don't care if literal sub humans bang my wife on a daily basis.
Degenerates like you belong on a cross.

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>>35633673
Wagies originally and eternally BTFO

>>35633720
Talk about wasting your time wagie. You are supposed to be improving your producitivity so Schlomo can make more shekels when you work. Maybe you wont get replaced by Pajeet or Juan if you work hard enough. :^)

>>35633720

>there's literally nothing wrong with having a job.


what about the people with social anxiety so bad that even the most minimal human interactions become a massive, dreaded chore that can be panic inducing? did you even consider it?

>>35633718
Because being able to experience things, even hardship, is better than nothing. It's a one of a kind experience and I've learned how to be content with basically anything and strive for more. At the end of my life, however far or near it may be, I'll be ultimately happy just for the experience of it. Every moment is unique and there's truly endless novelty if you look for it.

>>35633723
But he said he enjoys it so it makes it ok.

Cucking is a workin mans fetish.

>>35633755
Just shut up already. You don't make a lick of sense.

>>35633748
There's factory work and plenty of jobs available with minimal human interaction. It's not much but it's a living. If someone would like to do more than that with their life than they'll have to seek treatment or do their best to overcome it themselves.

>>35633755
Yeah sounds all pretty and happy but if you only experience negative shit, you can't really think that way.

>>35633720
>there's literally nothing wrong with having a job
having to go be bored to death for hours
being around people
have to get up at a certain time
there's people around
no free time
THERE IS FUCKING PEOPLE AROUND

I'm on the lowest tier of bux in Canada, I'm going to apply for more next month, wish me luck, friends. I think I might sperg out during the interview, if I can't get more bux I genuinely think I'll kill myself.

>>35633792

you have to be able to pass an interview without sperging out to be accepted at a factory job

>>35633723
Christ man I never said I was okay with anyone sleeping with my wife. I literally have no worries about that. I mean seriously guys not all women are whores. I really don't see where you are coming from with the whole wanting my race extinct, I really don't see that as an issue in the real world. And I work for a boss, yes, but I'm not sucking anyone's dick

>>35633456
It's nice to see the occasional sane person even on here.

Do you also come here for the failure zoo? Or maybe that's a bad analogy, in a zoo you have variety, here everybody's the same shell of a human. Me, I'm surrounded exclusively by people that "achieve" higher than the average both in my private and work life, I come here to get some lower reference, to put things in perspective. This could be me if I gave in to the occasional nagging voice in my mind. This is what I have not become, and I'm immensely grateful for it.

Although I think that it's maybe a bit as in the book "In cold blood", that these are people that are considered to be all around awful by everybody and it's hurting them because they know that after all they are human and there is still a spark of goodness in them that they value highly and cling onto because it's all I got, and if you deny them that it hurts them a lot. So you have to accept that with these complete and utter failures there is still that one drop of respectable substance in an ocean of complete expendability.

>>35631730
>Dad is a retired judge
Check if reading the law is legal in your state. If it is, you might as well. You don't have to leave your room, your parents will be proud, you'll come out of it with a license to practice, and it's not like you don't spend all day reading image boards anyway, you might as well read something that'll further your position in life.

>>35633742
My boss likes me quite a bit. If I get fired it won't be too hard to find another one anyway

Western Civilization is collapsing anyways. Either:
>Muslims take over the world, robots convert and become either Jihadist or become assimilated into mudslim society where men are in charge again. Mudslums don't tax so NEETdom is not an issue.
>or an economic collapses puts society into a total purge where everyone is fighting for basic resources. Wagie money becomes worthless as inflation destroys all value.
>Post economic crises, all wage normies are dead. Robots that hide become monks and save knowledge of the old world for future generations.

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>>35633829
>Not all women are whores.
Wrong

>>35633835
No, I just like to see the unique perspectives they have. In all honesty I think it's kind of messed up to look down on others so you can feel better about yourself.

>>35633755
>better than nothing
Let me stop you right there. Doing nothing (known as "chillin'" by tribal melanin-enriched Americans) is a perfectly patrician pastime. It's when people are saturated from doing a single thing (nothing or otherwise) that they become unsatisfied. Like eating one thing for the rest of your life, you'd eventually grow weary of eating it even if it were your favorite food. Repeated experiences dull the mind far more, whether it is success, failure, hardship, it all suffers from repetition and monotony in due time. Anything can have a positive outlook to it, including being a NEET or working tireless hours at a job. There is novelty, but once that novelty wears out entirely, it tends to stay gone.

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>>35633829
>I mean seriously guys not all women are whores.
Nice try Shloma

>>35633795
You just have to look at what makes you happy instead. There's always something if you know how to look at it. Drinking some water can bring me joy sometimes.

>>35633818
Some places accept literally anyone who applies, and with the right mindset you'll only get better the more you try.

>>35633865
But the perspectives are not unique. They are just a grossly exaggerated and lived-out version of the same insecurities and doubts and perceived inadequacy that I think everybody feels.

Of course you shouldn't base your self-worth on being better than the bottom of the barrel. But I think it's only human to compare yourself to others and to use other people as reference points.

>>35631578
>28
>fulltime job
>stays with parents
>room with little brother
>work at the same company with him, same division
>we take our girls to motels
>house is for quality family time

Current year and people still fall for the moving out meme

I can count the number of how many times I've left my house this year.
No job no school no friends.
Younger siblings moved out.
Stuck.

>>35633908

having the right mindset will cure my mental illness?

fuck i wish i hadn't wasted thousands of dollars on therapy sessions

>>35633877
See, but my friends lives are constantly changing, that's nice to talk about. I get to read something new every day. I do some art, which I'm not very good at, but it's fun to try anyways. I might have a family eventually, which will mean never a dull moment, really. I've never had a conversation like this before on 4chan, and that's nice to. I've never seen the same sunset twice. You just have to know where to look.

>>35633890
Seriously, this is one of the major beliefs that are holding everyone on this board back.

>>35633945
Sorry. I mean there's still the places that accept anyone, though

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>>35633968
Off yourself anon.

>>35634001
From some of the threads I see, I think you might be a lot more likely to. Maybe there's something wrong with the way you're looking at things when so many of you are just wishing you'd have the courage to pull the trigger.

>>35633748
Once you start interacting with people your social anxiety will decrease.

>>35633915
I try my best not to. I either feel like shit because I don't measure up or I feel like a dick because I realize I'm looking down on others. I've found it's best to just focus on myself when it comes to adequacy.

>>35633993
i cant even make eye contact with strangers. even if they pitied me enough to get the job, i wouldnt last because i overthink even the smallest things. i worked 3rd shift at a grocery store once, i even fucked that up. some people are just irreparably fucked and trying to convince them to just go and do the things can do more harm than good. there's a reason there are normal, well adjusted people like yourself and people like me who can't even maintain eye contact

>>35633953
I don't have friends myself, so I wouldn't know the feeling. The act of trying to do something I'm incompetent at throws me into a rage, and the very thought of having a family makes me sick when I look at what happened to my father. I would rather die with a boring peace of mind at this point. What I've grown weary of is trying and failing, for 24 consecutive years, whether it is the arts, socializing, or even finding employment.

And that's the kicker about your little fable's moral, "You just have to know where to look." I've never seen it in the first place.

>>35634031
well, i'm 23 now and 23 years of interacting with people semi regularly hasn't done anything for my social anxiety. do you think i've just been living in a cave all this time?

>>35634037
Well that's very pious. And any self-help book devouring ex girlfriend will tell you that comparing yourself to others is unhealthy. But the reality is that in most aspects of life where there is something of value to be obtained, you are rank-ordered against your peers, and comparing yourself to how well they are doing is common sense.

>get a job
>don't live in yurop so there's no public transit, expected to own a vehicle
>have to insure the vehicle, pay for gas, pay for vehicle fix ups, and pay to renew your drivers license
>start working, have to pay jew tax and health insurance
>the health insurance is garbage, you're paying for literally nothing, you would be better off on medicaid but you're no longer eligible
>slave away for minimum wage, after tax and other expenses, you're left with less money than a welfare recipient
>save up for years, claw your way up past minimum wage
>decide to get a loan and buy a house
>paying off your loan, plus a huge property tax every month, water bill, electricity, natural gas, phone, internet, etc.

Meanwhile Chad Goldsteinberg, your boss who was gifted the company by his dad, who also owns your bank, electric company, ISP, and your dating app, laughs at you from his mansion.

Wagies never even had a chance.

>>35634049
You have a bed, doesn't that make you happy? A warm place to sleep? No one can deny that lying down when you feel tired makes you feel happy. I mean honestly sometimes that's all I've had but it was still enough

>>35634055
I don't know what you've been doing, obviously. I can only tell you from my experience. I felt and still feel uncomfortable around people. I believe it has to do with nonverbal cues that happen at the initiation of a communication. I do a lot better during periods in which I have more social interaction.

>>35634064
I really don't care much for promotions though. If my co-workers get it then I'm happy for them and if I get it than that's great for me. I'm content enough with what I have that there isn't very much need for competition.

>>35634086
As I've stated previously, repetition dulls our ability to appreciate things. I've spent most of my life laying down, so no, I don't really appreciate it anymore. Especially with overwhelmingly negative family providing it.

>>35634081
As long as you're okay what does it matter what Chad has? He's had it easier and gets better, so what? Life was never going to be fair, but that shouldn't stop you from trying.

>>35634104
being nervous is one thing, having an actual problem with your brain that causes you to act in erratic, embarrassing ways is another ballgame entirely. i don't expect you to understand but you need to realize where you are

>>35634146
I'm NEET, the only winning move for us not born into wealth is to not play their game.

>>35634132
You're thinking too broad. Just focus on the moment. I mean isn't just sitting hear sharing and exchanging ideas with other people enjoyable? Even if it's contradictory there's still someone listening and to at least one person for a little while your opinion is considered and matters.

>>35634167
Please don't be so bitter. You probably would be happier with a job and a family, and the experience of the game is actually quite enjoyable, even from a losing end. just focus on the fun, not the competition.

>>35634148
Well, I honestly hope your therapy eventually works out for you and you someday get what you wanted.

>>35634183
Not really. As I've said prior, repetition dulls our ability to appreciate things. How long do you think I've been posting here on 4chan? Bear in mind, I browse other boards to keep up some variety, but I've browsed for at least 10 years. The vast majority of conversations end up being shitposted, ignored or on the rare occasion actually thoughtful. This isn't one of those rare occasions.

>>35634266
Well then. At lest try to take solace in something. It's going to be really difficult if you're always trying to do the opposite.

>Get comfy dishwashing job
>The only social interaction I have is when the bussers give me dishes and when I get my check from my boss
>get paid $10/hr, not bad but not incredible
>Been saving up for months, have almost 5k

Honestly it feels really good to have money, I don't really spend it on much and I'm just saving up for later. If you guys can find a job that doesn't require that much effort or social interaction I think you would like the extra money.

>>35634319
You imply I am actually trying not to have fun, however my competence when trying drops like a rock. I tried to enjoy and get better at drawing. I kept getting patronized by my family, and when I tried to sketch a gun safe for 2 hours straight my rage at all the tiny little mistakes got out of hand along with my sketchbook, as it sailed across the room. I practiced Touhou 12: Undefined Fantastic Object on normal difficulty for an entire year and completely failed to beat it in one continue. The only wars I win are of patience, not skill, and repetition dulls appreciation. All I am good at is waiting.

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>>35634402
>applied for dishwashing job at diner
>told I need 2 years of professional dishwashing experience to wash dishes
>"home experience doesn't count"

>>35634434
Maybe get checked for anger management, or just enjoy the process more and be content with mistakes. The one nice thing about repetition is it makes you good, and when you get good you can innovate an create.

>>35634539
If the year of touhou practice didn't make it clear, that is not my case. I have a very low skill ceiling even among average people. Furthermore at my level I would only be drawing to get better or for myself, and I don't take pleasure in it at a low skill level. In addition I just flat-out do not know what I want to draw in the first place. The thought of picking up that sketchpad makes me want to tear it up into pieces.

I want to win when I try instead of having my patience roll the die enough times to win through attrition.

>>35632733
>Try to learn a life skill
>Get told not to do it, "I'll take care of that, Anon!"
>Get yelled at for trying
>Get shit on when I successfully do something on my own

I don't understand what they want from me

>>35634461
dishwashing at a restaurant is a bit different.
But that's still bullshit. If they're giving you grief over an entry-level position they deserve to go bankrupt

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>be neet in my 20s
>feel like killing myself because I'm a useless piece of shit
>mommy is mad because I never do anything useful
>start working all day five days a week
>feel like killing myself because it is terrible
>mommy is mad because I lock myself in my room all weekend to keep up with anime and shitposting

We should just nuke everything desu

>>35635187
They are picky because it's an easy position that will get a billion applicants. Why would they hire someone with no experience when they can hire the dude who has washed dishes for years?