What age does the pendulum swing back towards men, even a tiny

>>35597444
>What age does the pendulum swing back towards men, even a tiny bit?
After women reach 30 because then they're looking for beta providers to settle.

>>35597444
>She's still working at Starbucks now
What do you work as?

If you are moderately successful, the 30s. Don't fall for their trap though.

as another anon said, pendulum swings back after 30. Feminity rusts with age, but masculinity is enhanced.

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>tfw turning 25 this year
>been unemployed for 4 years
>nobody will hire me, am more or less too dumb to go to school/learn a trade
>dont' know how I'm supposed to "swing the pendulum back" into my favor within the next 5 years if I can't even get a fucking job
I want to stop living but I'm also too much of a coward to commit suicide

I'd say once you hit your thirties any picky bitches who are still single will realize they need to pick a man fast before they run out of time and don't get to leech off of anyone. Plus at this point women start looking worse for wear while men can stay sharp into their sixties or even seventies

>>35597444
exactly at 28.

>>35597481
I manage a small IT team

Why not date a woman that is older than you?

>>35597515
Security guard jobs are plentiful. Perfect for robots who want minimal social contact.

>>35597553
Because they won't date us

>>35597444
I'm 33, only now do I notice an occasional glimmer of interest from women but it's only because I've got a paid off house and a decent job. I'm convinced their only interest in me is as a last shot at settling down, so of course I squash it immediately. I've got an overweight 42 year old woman flying out to "visit the city" that wants to meet up, things like this are becoming darkly funny. I'll keep my money and self respect, thank you very much.

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>>35597561
>Security guard jobs are plentiful.
How the fuck am I supposed to be some successful alpha Tony Stark entrepreneur like everyone else ITT once I'm older/their age if I'm working as a fucking security guard

>>35597515
i could kill you if you want

>>35597669
>i could kill you if you want
>if you want
Don't even ask, just do it

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Looking at Facebook she has a 2yo kid, no mention of the father. Should I even respond, or is this a trap

Pic not related btw

>>35597734
>she has a 2yo kid, no mention of the father.
>is this a trap
the fuck do you think?
of course it is

>>35597444
Around 30 but only if you're in a good spot financially.

t. 31 year old who now has lots of wall-staged whores wanting to date me.

Lucky for me I'm not a blue pilled cuck so I just buy a night with a really nice girl once a month and spend the rest of my time enjoying myself. Women my age are pathetic creature, the settle down memes are absolutely true. With their blown out pussies, stretch marks, and tired eyes they desperately attempt to find someone to give them validation, but there is no one.

>>35597476
This, they swing back when you don't want them anymore, you're best bet is to find bitches who're desperate in their 30's and create a loose harem

>>35597544
If she knows that, she knows she's going nowhere in life and you have money. She's after your money.

>>35597734
fuck her and leave her

>>35597758
Escort route is the best route. When I finish my masters and get full-time work at my internship, I'll be drowning in young escort pussy.

>>35597544
well what does that tell ya buddy boy

>>35597734
got more of pic my dude?

It doesn't at all. At 30, women that are ALSO around 30 see you as a potential beta provider. That's the best you're going to get. Prime girls don't want anything to do with you. Also that's if you have your shit in order at 30 which a lot of guys don't.

>>35598193
>Prime girls don't want anything to do with you.
They do , they love an older man

>>35598234

By older man they mean a 25 year old that looks like a 18 year old stud and has his own place and nice car. Not a fucking 30 year old with a receding hairline.

>>35597734
Post a pic of the lady in question so we at least now if she is worth a fuck

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>>35598272
tfw i dont care about his receeding hairline as long as we get along and he cares about being /fit/ as much as i do
tfw all older men see me as is a airheaded piece of ass thats "off limits" without actually getting to know me

>>35597444

I need the sauce on this girl

>>35598411

how old are you and what age do you mean by "older" men?

>>35597444
It depends on how much they work her.

>>35597734
>>35597444
holy motherfucking shit

moar, or sauce? reverse gives nothing, as always

>>35597444
>>35597734
damn this cunt is hot, grade a fuckmeat

>>35598493
i just turned 18 and i dont mean any age in particular, i guess at the youngest 27? its just a hard knock life anon

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>>35598708
A load of her bf's pics got dumped on b this week

From the bedroom shots she's natural

>>35597734
I wouldn't bang a girl like that unless its just a ONS. Just use that roastie for sex. It's all she is good for now. Always wrap it up and don't get attached. She is gonna probably want a provider.

>>35597583
Its a meme job and the good paying gigs need some fucking classes and that cost $$$

>>35599067
Oh, that's neat!

So, any chance you will be dumping more?

>>35599067
Might as well tell women to walk around nude.

>>35597561
This
>>35597583
You can part time while you go to school? I'm working full time until I have enough to get a pilot's license, I can't decide if I should fly planes or copters. But, since I live in Commieofrnia, $15 an hour is hardly enough to get even the shittiest of apartments. Thinking about working at the prisons, they pay a lot better.

>>35599122
They're not that much though

>>35599122
>>35599171
I mean I wouldn't mind borrowing money from a family member to go to school if it means I could secure a job doing something that pays a little better than minimum wage

but I don't want to have made a mistake/lateral move by borrowing like $500 for a guard card class and then not be able to get hired anywhere

>>35599201
Its usually not that hard to get a security job. My issue is that all the good paying ones are too far and I don't have a car.

>>35599201
>>35599237
Oh and my current gig has a well structured schedule, and I'm always covering for someone thats unavailable. The overtime pay is decent. So I make some good money every once in a while.

>>35597481
>still working at Starbucks
My dream

>>35599151
Being a prison guard sounds brutal. I imagine it'd feel like you're in prison yourself.

>>35599237
THIS SO FUCKING MUCH REEEEEEEEEEEE
MY comment is og nigga

>>35597444

For me, a couple months before I graduated college. Greentext.

>Girl in high school let's call her Kelly because every Kelly I ever knew was awful and went out of her way to be a cunt to people
>Ask Kelly on a date
>She doesn't even answer. Just gives me a nasty look, disgusted that I felt worthy of her presence, then went back to talking about cell phones or whatever with her friends
>She must have told everyone because the next day I hear popular kids asking me "Hey anon you like Kelly? hehehe"
>Spends the rest of high school being a cunt to me
>Graduate high school
>Make good use of the free gym at college, get /fit/, fix my speech impediment
>Still had a Jewbook profile
>One day, I see a message from Kelly
>Hey college boy lol are you still in (hometown)? So am I lol I always liked you and thought you were cute we should meet up sometime and catch up ;)
>Look at her profile
>She put on a solid 50 pounds
>I respond "Who is this?"

The red pill is that it never "swings back", don't listen to the manosphere and MGTOW idiots.

Women will always have the pendulum in their favour, even if they're a single mother or even if they're in their 40s and look like shit there will always be someone fighting over other men to be with her.

A woman's share of superior men just declines as she ages, but there will always be men there.

I'd say at about 23/24 if you're a woman who hasn't found a Chad you're beginning to push it.

At 27/28 your choice of men is going to be of a much lower quality.

At 35/36 your choice of men if you're single is going to be genetically inferior betas and criminals.

That isn't to say that if you listen to certain idiots who think when you turn 30 you'll suddenly become a "handsome grey wolf" and be on 100k and have 21 yr olds who will throw themselves at you. Ask yourself if you honestly believe that shit, where will you meet them? Will they be ok with a man so much older? How will you stand out against younger Chads with more energy and who are more "fun"? If you're undesired you'll always be undesired, feels bad man but we're all going to make it

>>35597483

They never dated you because they had standards that were too high

now it's your chance to have reasonable standards (because you aren't that fucking wonderful) in return

>>35597444
>>35597734
>>35599067

seriously op, fucking dump more.

>>35600759
>but we're all going to make it
How can you say that after saying everything you just said? Middle school and highschool was a joke. I have 0 faith that things as an adult will be better for me. I will never make it.

>>35600812
Because if you're not going to be positive and optimistic for your future you may as well kys right now and I'm not memeing.

Have your best friend and only friend die at 24 of a heart attack despite not drinking or doing drugs or smoking, doing lots of cardio and you'll try and make every day count anon, we only have one life

>>35599067
>A load of her bf's pics got dumped on b this week
Sauce or I don't believe you.
These pics are pretty old.

>>35600860
>Because if you're not going to be positive and optimistic for your future you may as well kys right now and I'm not memeing.
I know. That's easier said than done though. I would like to have the drive to actually end it.

>have your best friend blah blah
Never had one of those, sorry.

>>35600860

Your friend was lucky, life peaks early there is no point living much past 24 unless you're rich or have some sort of awesome life. ANd yeah its a major coping mechanism losers in their 20's think the day they turn 30 they're going to turn into george clooney mode. lmao

>>35597734
Hit it...you know you want too

>>35601005
You're 100% right about it being a coping mechanism for losers in their 20s thinking the day they turn 30 they'll be George Clooney mode - maybe the phrase for it is "Caterpillar into butterfly" syndrome or something

>>35597544
>IT
how did I guess
>small team
if it's more than 20 then cool, less than 5 an absolute JOKE

still waiting for more of those pics guys. pls

>>35597734
this is all I want in life tbqhonest

>>35597734
LITERALLY built for sex

More?

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Not OP, but I found some more pics from xhamster if anyone is still interested

>>35597444
its a pendulum anon
its a double pendulum

>>35601005
Researchers peak a good deal later. Not too many people below 30 with an H-index 50+

test
jfjfjnfhg

>>35601965

Drop 'em. This is what I'm fapping to tonight

>>35600799
>now it's your chance to have reasonable standards
By dating younger women and ignoring the old hags who ignored you.

Thanks for playing, roastie.

>>35597758
may I ask how much you make? You only pay for sex with escorts?

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>>35601965
Yeah I'm also very interested she is quite the semen demon.

>>35601965
What are waiting for faggot
876

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>>35602172
>>35602756
>>35602883
Sorry, lost track of time. here is the second pic

About 28 or so. Especially if you are going back to school. I just turned 30 and have been getting more pussy in the last 2 years than in the rest of my life combined. Not only are younger chicks into older guys, but also the chicks my age are less picky and though they have slightly higher expectations of sexual prowess, are more likely to pick a guy their age than a younger dude who doesn't know what he's doing. (Unless they're into that sort of thing)

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>>35603266
The third in the set. Here is the link btw. The page is in spanish funny enough: https://es.xhamster.com/photos/gallery/6090092/misc_voyeur_3.html

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>>35603317
Number four. Another one for the outdoors

>>35603317
>funny enough
It's just because you have the "es" in there...

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>>35603360
Oh well. I got it from a reverse image search and that was the url. As long as the pic is there I really could give less of a shit.

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>>35603431
last one I got of the set

>>35600462
more im not done jerking off

>>35597444
30. 30 year old men are the best.

>>35597444
Definitely the 30s. I recently turned 30 and am at the top of my game and I've gone from getting no messages on Okcupid to having to wade through quite a bit each week.
Jokes on them, I'm already dating my pure former-virgin gf.

>Just graduated
>Got through to final round interviews for job
>Feeling really good, other applicants aren't as qualified
>If I land it will be making 89k aussiefunbucks a year
>Plus rural living bonuses
>Female friends of years, who had no interest in me prior, started asking me out
>Literally 2 in the past week, 1 the week before
>Rejected all of them
>Intend to remain alone, pocket all my earnings, buy my dream motorcycle and a comfy home

When we were equal, nobody gave a shit. Now I'm in a better position, you damn well better not think I feel lucky to have your attention. Fuck your pendulum, my upswing time now.

>>35603792
green text the rejections im trying to jack off

>>35603792

OR, you get off on the bargaining they've gone through, like most people do I think, and enjoy the steady pussy. Withdraw credit card access when necessary to restore pussyflow.

How do you come about to dating a younger girl in your 30's? While I can certainly see my luck has been getting better by age, I would like to have a family some day, and I would prefer it if I got a younger girl in her early 20's so we can have as many non autistic children possible.

>>35603431

She has some ugly teeth

>>35603301

No normal chick 18 - 21ish is going for guys in their late 20's early 30's. They either have daddy issues or are looking for a guy to spend money on them.

>>35597476
Pretty much this. If I wanted to hitch up with some single mom that got left behind by Chad I'd have my pick of the litter.

>>35604190
>26
>Have 21 year old wife
>I have no money
>She knows this
>She doesn't have daddy issues either
Seems like you're wrong :^)

People will say when women reach 30 but in reality it's when you actually become attractive when the pendulum swings back. Whether it's your money or physical attractiveness, if you manage well with those women become a magnet to you in your 20s especially mid 20s. Don't fall for the 30s meme that's just what ugly people think.

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>>35604190
>daddy issues

Yes and that's hot.

>>35603431
You could tell she's a feminist who secretly loves to get dominated by a black guy.

>>35604238

26 and 21 is not a gap at all you retard, I'm talking about guys that are like 29 and trying to hook up with 19 year old prime hotties.

>>35604294
>Gives two clear ranges
>Girls 18-12
>Men in their late 20's
>26 is closer to 30 than to 20 and can be argued as being late 20's
So at what point in your stupid assertion did you think I was wrong? All women like older men. You can't compete if you're still a child.

>>35598411
>create your Oblivion character

>>35603579

It's in a different thread but

>Played tennis with this girl because my parents made me
>Told people she was my gf because I was like 12
>Word gets around to her and everyone laughs at me because they found out I have no gf and I play tennis
>Never really talked to her since we graduated high school
>Found out through my parents (they are friends with her parents) that she started med school and got BLACKED
>Dropped out to become a single mother taking care of her half-nig alone
>Tried not to smirk when my parents told me all this
>Failed
>Parents think I'm a psychopath now

>>35604431

yeah by older they mean 5 years max or so, not a decade older.

>>35603579

One more

>There was this one girl from high school who never did anything to me but she was popular and stuff
>She was probably a coalburner or something
>She was really good at swimming
>Got a full athletic scholarship to a big-name university that has produced some Olympic gold medalists
>2 years in she gets caught with cocaine
>Gets kicked out of university and did some time in jail
>Not sure what she is doing now

>i'm dating
>my wife
>I've fucked
>My gf

why are you here

>>35601187
>if it's less than 5 an absolute joke

You don't know the first thing about software development do you?

>>35600759

Pretty much this.

I'm 37 and thankfully met my wife in our twenties. Let me tell how it really goes down based on my personal observations of friends and peers.

All the best girls (and guys) are happily together and have been for some time. The ex-party girls want the ex-party boys. The wallflowers quietly pair off via internet dating and disappear. The solo / divorced mothers go with the solo / divorced fathers.

Basically, what's left are the mentally ill, the delusional, and the ugly. The only other option are the super motivated career types who are ridiculously hard work and have insane standards you could never hope to meet as a 30+ typica robot and even if you are finally a success on paper, you won't be good enough because these women want it all in the sense of social lives, interests, and activities. You simply won't be able to keep up with their expectations.

>>35601005
There's realism and then there is autism, pal. 30 isn't as old as you think.

>>35601187

i'll have fries w/ that plz. thx

>>35605598
So, no men will want me if I became a great plastic surgeon? Am I doomed to lonelyness? Do men really want a more unsuccessful woman than them?

>>35597734

dem tiddies big son, originally of course

>>35597734

dubs and I get a girl like that sometime in my life

>>35605858
Honestly yes. For one thing it emasculates them at least subconsciously. For another thing you won't take care of any children or generally stay at home due to focusing on your career and whatnot.

Career women are honestly a all around worse deal.

>>35605858
Are there really women who aren't aware how turned off men are by career women?

>>35605858

Another surgeon will, but the average guy is going to find you a chore. I used to hook up with a med student and she was a neurotic, obnoxious, oblivious nightmare. And so were all her friends.

>>35605994

To be fair, it's not all men, but it is all men who aren't on the same level in terms of motivation and expectations.

>>35597734
How you got a chick with a 2yo kid hitting on you and have pictures of high schoolers? You're the teacher aren't you.

>>35605224
Yeah, no. Go talk to an actual girl anon. 10 years seems close to the norm in my experience. Some are 7-8 year gaps but that's closer to 10 than 5.

>>35605175
>>35605422
i had to read those more than once, thanks

>>35605858
I'd gold dig a woman who was a surgeon but she'd have to be older than me. I don't want to have kids with someone who is going to be at work all the time and it'd be emasculating being the one who stays at home. I don't care about who earns more but no fucking way would I be happy to stay at home.

>>35603792
What's your dream motorcycle

>>35597444
God I'd love to fuck her. She's so fucking cute.

>>35597444
>What age does the pendulum swing back towards men, even a tiny bit?

whatever age they become really ugly at

>>35605903
>>35605994
>>35606015
I just thought that men would prefer me over any Stacey if I became sucessful and gorgeous at the same time. I guess it's a lost fight between men who naturally have more self-steem than I am.
>>35606035
Men with motivation and expectations have brainwashed models as their trophies, which it's pretty nice, because at least they feel like they deserve it.
Well, I guess I'll just be thankful for having a 80% scholarship, and the infinite love of learning, the one that never goes away.

>>35606337
>Men with motivation and expectations have brainwashed models as their trophies

Or they have wives and girlfriends with similar careers and motivation to succeed. That's your best bet.

>>35606337

I like really ambitious and smart women.

>>35605858
>Do men really want a more unsuccessful woman than them?

spoiler: women ONLY want men that are more successful than them, even the ones that are already rich and theoretically wouldn't need someone who earned all that much

you know this already and are simply just baiting

I don't think that men can appreciate this enough, but it is an unbelievable challenge to find someone that provides optimal value AND is willing to commit to you, as they are inversely proportional. (high-value men are unlikely to commit because it's better to just sleep around with a lot of women.

>>35605858
>>So, no men will want me if I became a great plastic surgeon?
Steroid Chads will want you, no one with a brain or any kind of a decent personality will though, since your choice of profession betrays an obsession with the most superficial aspect of existence.

>>35598411
because you're young and stupid that's why. I'm 26 and I think 21 and under are fucking retards. So I can only assume a guy in his late 30's or 40's would see a 20 something girl and be like "yeah she's easy cause she's young". THe older guys know exactly what to do to get young cunts in bed cause surprise surprise it works. So to them yeah, you're just young pussy and nothing to seriously invest in.

>>35603317
c'mon give me that sweet upskirt shot

>>35605827
would you like to try our limited time shamrock shake as well?

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>>35606865
I know, I will never ever touch a wounded baby and repair the face of a war veteran, how silly I am.

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She is 31. still hot

>>35607271
the woman presents herself well in that photo

>angle
>make-up
>lighting
>filter

She probably still looks decent irl but don't you dare fall for the profile pic meme

>>35607203
You sure as fuck won't when you realize that you can just inflate lips and asses and get free money for practically no work.

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>>35607303
Propably because she got the body of a 16 year old

>>35606731
That's a good point I'm willing to believe, but incredibly valuable women also become so picky and demanding that only the best and richest men can satisfy their desires, and even then they tend to sleep around a bit as well.

>>35597444
I dunno but I would love to shove my 8x6 cock inside her and force her to have my children

>>35597444
>What age does the pendulum swing back towards men, even a tiny bit?

The fuck are you on about? Men are by far the most successful gender in virtually every facet of life.

If you think that being a le mature man is gonna get girls to cold approach you to fuck, you're sorely mistaken. Besides, only ball-less losers wait for women to ask them out.

>>35597582
You really should "meet up" just to casually drop these little bombs of how together your life is, then at the end of the night...

>"Well <hag>, it was great seeing you again! Take care!"

Really makes her think

>>35597683
sure, what's you home address.. i'll show up when you least expect it.

i've done this kind of thing before, so don't worry.

>>35600759
This is the truth, but it is rarely heard. The majority of posts are to the contrary, by young guys who live in what is pretty well a fantasy world. Unfortunately, as I think Goebbels said, repeat a lie often enough, and it becomes the truth.

>>35601005
From an older guy; you're a little pessimistic. Late 20's to early 30's, then the decline starts.

>>35597476
it's as much daddy issues as anything else; I'd give a 50/50 split on biological clock and just wanting to fuck a dude who fills the void their father left

>>35606731
Read optimal value as the top 5% of men.

>>35597444
>oXNs7jU.jpg
>>35597734
>>35599067
>>35601965
>>35603266
>>35603317
>>35603356
>>35603431
>>35603475
that's one helluva sexy bitch...

>>35597515
nice rare jc denton pepe

>>35597444
Nice trips, and the ups will begin at 27, and jumspstart at men's 30. Decline varies, but past 45 men absolutely have to put more effort to maintain, should shit happens tho the crash will not be as severe as women's.

That doesn't mean it'll automatically happen though. Here's what I've witnessed and experienced myself: assuming the man is being patient and actually not waste their teen and early 20s time by giving up and wasting resources, by that age, he will have more than enough resources (money, job experiences, investments).

For woman, after she's 25 her biological clock will start to tick harder and her looks will start fading HARD she'll need more cosmetics to mimic her youthful appearance, thus making them waste more resource.
No cosmetics, including surgeries, silicone, injections, will ever beat youth in women.

Remember, men age like wine, women like a milk. Being a man means being a wine, don't rot yourself in sunlight and shit, put yourself in prime condition for aging and you'll be worth in trillions dollars.

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>>35606337
>Well, I guess I'll just be thankful for having a 80% scholarship, and the infinite love of learning, the one that never goes away.
Yeah, until you hit the wall and realize you fucked up, and that nobody wants you anymore, just like every other "career motivated woman." Honestly, how fucking stupid are you broads.

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>>35597444
I got /fit/ at 22 with cardio and a low carb low sugar diet.

I attract women now. It feels great going out and turning heads.

My only problem is keeping my ego in check, i can come off as a jackass if I'm not careful.

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>>35597444
GET GIRLS EZ:

1. get fit you lazy piece of shit
2. be nice
3. talk slowly, clearly, and purposefully
3. be confident

>>35610875
Better err on jackass more than being perceived as weak, and of course always back your words with actions. That's onfidence, not insecurity.
Remember the "speak softly, and carry a big stick" shit from Ted.

It might sounds like a tough guy act and talk, but unfortunately the world works this way, and no such thing as trophy for participation, or everyone is a winner.

>>35597734
>Pic not related btw

I see what you did there.

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>TIME IS A VALUABLE THING
>WATCH IT FLY BY AS THE PENDULUM SWINGS
>WATCH IT COUNT DOWN TO THE END OF THE DAY
>THE CLOCK TICKS LIFE AWAY
its so unreal

thanks for triggering my flashbacks