>start exercising >sleep at least eight hours per night

Same dude. No matter what I'm constantly tired. I routinely doze off like 20 minutes after Ive woken up from an 8 hour sleep.

I also fall asleep at all the inappropriate times.

>>35594252
What's ur sets.

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>>35594252

Seconded, in fact I dare say I've got even less energy than when I guzzled down cola and chocolate. Personally I suspect I've already have the beetus and lots of other internal damage so that might be why there's no change whatsoever.

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>>35594252
me too hahahah

ALSO! to really rub it in I managed to get friends that make me feel worse and lonelier than I ever was when I didn't go outside much

>>35594316
Get checked for narcolepsy amigo

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>>35594316
>>35594375
>>35594410

So what do we learn from this, gentlemen?

>>35594440
that life gay, man

You need to take your creatine OP
https://youtu.be/QocnjK7ChnU

>>35594440

Avoid faggotry and shillery

Also, this man for president now -> >>35594445

>>35594252
Exercise/lifting really is the worst meme. I tried doing it with the best attitude, the best willpower, but I just hate it. I'm not even fat, my weight is perfectly healthy.
>just lift bro
they said
>it'll make you confident
they said
>it'll make you happier
they said

Well fuck off, rather than keep going to the gym I'd shoot myself in the mouth.

>>35594510
my first act as president of this flat earth:

naps at work
also no more work

>>35594252
>>35594515
he who says he can't, and he who says he can, are both usually right. :)

>>35594571
But I said that I can, and I couldn't. Listen man, I think that there is some kind of cult going around lifting and working out in general. It's almost a ritual of the red pill retards. Now, I'm not saying that the red pill is completely wrong, but it mostly is. They have their ritual, lifting weights, and they think that it's going to save them, not too different from those civilizations who would sacrifice animals or even humans to their gods.

>>35594316
8 hours is too long to be sleeping if your in your 20's. You're probably just a low test beta faggot.

>>35594252
>these stupid memes
it's not a meme champ
What you put in is what you'll get out, I recommend 60 minutes of cardio and 30 minutes of heavy weight lifting

>cardio
Fuck /fit/'s opinion on cardio it's great for building up your endurance although swimming is better

>>35594679
>I said I can
>But I couldn't
Yeah makes sense dickhead. Were the weights too heavy for you? Did you expect to change within a month or two.

>>35594711
Of course that's not what I meant, imbecile. I'm talking about a lifestyle that was supposed to be good, but it's actually not. I lifted everything I had to lift, I did it properly, gradually. Physically it worked, but not mentally, and eventually I gave up. You know the meme that says
>when you're in a bad mood you need to exercise!!!!!!!
yeah, I hope that everyone who said that gets cancer. When I'm in a bad mood the abvsolute last thing that I want to do is exercise.

>>35594252
>>35594316

8 hours is not some magic number that's perfect for all human beings. How about you morons apply some preschool logic and think, hey, if I'm still tired after 8 hours of sleep, maybe I need to sleep for longer than 8 hours.

>>35594781
>People who lift and exercise release endorphins and dopamine
>YEAH WELL NOT ME BUDDY I'M JUST A SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE
Fuck off. You did what every other faggot did and half-assed it expecting results. Do as you're doing; stop lifting. The rewards are clearly not meant for you anyway.

>>35594817
>Heh.... if I keep lowering the age at which you supposedly learn this logic it somehow makes my argument more cutting

>>35594817
gee thanks man, haven't thought of that before
fuck off

>>35594252
>sleep at least eight hours per night
I just can't manage to do that because I always take too long to finally fall asleep and wake up before 8 hours.
>Still feel like complete shit and suffer from low energy
You might have a thyroid problem m8, you should get that checked out by a endocrinologist.

>>35594679
>>35594781

You're a fucking moron. Everyone recommends exercise because it's been proven by hundreds of studies beyond even the slightest shadow of a doubt to be one of the best things you can possibly do for your health, both mental and physical.

Your body was designed to be used constantly and your stupid ass sits in front of a computer all day wondering why you feel so terrible. I dunno, it's a fucking mystery!

>getting enough sleep, eating healthy and exercising is a meme

Every time I visit this board I'm reminded that every single thing you guys complain about it 100% your own faults and you deserve your miserable lives.

>>35594841
you triggered bro? You seem triggered. Why are you so defensive?
Anyway, why didn't it work for me? Explain that to me faggot, since you seem to know all the answers. And I did it properly, I went to the gym and I did exactly what they told me to do. Why didn't it work, huh?

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>>35594252
>is still browsing /r9k/
>is still fapping
>is still a ronery NEET

WELL-O-WELL MY FRIEND SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE JUST DOING A NICE JOB ON AVOIDING TO TACKLE YOUR REAL PROBLEMS: BUT I HAVE AN IDEA ====> CHOP YOUR MENTAL BALLS OFF (AKA STOP JERKING IT TO DISGUSTING PORN YOU WEIRDO ) AND START TO RESPECT YOURSELF::: REMEMBER TO START ONE AT A TIME AND DONT EXPECT ANY MIRACLE RESULTS IN LESS THAN A YEAR YOU SCHMUCK, PERSISTENCE IS KEY AND START TO TAKE L-THEANINE WITH CAFFEINE (THIS SHIT IS ACTUALLY A LEGAL ALTERNATIVE TO METHYLPHENIDATE (AKA RITALIN)

THIS WAS A POOPLIC CERVIX AN OUNCE MENT BY A LURKING RETARD

>>35594943
What am I defending against? At what point when writing that did it makes sense to you? It didn't work because you ate like shit, worked out like shit or, more likely, a combination of the two.

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>>35594943

>tfw this anon is 50 million philosophers stones strong without realizing and can't get anything out of workouts

>>35594905
>Every time I visit this board I'm reminded that every single thing you guys complain about it 100% your own faults and you deserve your miserable lives.
>My w-world is just!
You're a faggot m80. Not all people have the luck to not have hypothyroidism which fucks up your metabolism and causes you to always have low energy, regardless of healthy life style, hydration and enough sleep.
Even worse off (in my case) are people with Klinefelter's Syndrome who experience similar symptoms but on top of that also can't really put on much muscle mass and look like a fucking clown.
I know people who barely do exercise, eat mostly crap shit and don't do much (beside work) and they don't have jeb bush-tier levels of energy.

>>35594997
None of the above. I even got abs and everything. But I never cared about that, I only cared about the mental benefits, and they just never came.

>>35594997
How the fuck do you know if he "ate like shit" and worked out like shit?
Stop being an insecure faggot cuck and at least give the man some advice instead of acting like an edgy little shit who had his first boner.

>>35594524
roastieban. we need to build a wall

>>35595076
Because he isn't a snowflake. If you eat well you put on muscle and lose fat. If you lose fat and put on muscle you look good. If you look good you feel confident. If you feel confident you feel good. This is ignoring the fact that working out makes you feel good per se. Stop trying to defend a loser. Or are you another one of these failed lifters who "gave it a go"?

>>35595043
Abs don't mean shit. It just means you're low body fat. Proof that you have no idea what you're talking about and that you're a fucking moron.

>>35595012
>I-it's not my fault, it's my thyroid! And some other stuff I self-diagnosed! Exercise is a meme!

On a related note, has anyone else noticed that this board is slowly turning into tumblr? People seem to be increasingly refusing to accept any responsibility for their own lives and blaming their problems on various invented diseases and disorders.

>>35595133
"Abs and everything", you illiterate nigger. You know what? I'm enjoying this. I'm gonna keep autistically arguing with you until I get bored.

>>35595133
>are you another one of these failed lifters who "gave it a go"?
Nah I wrote this here
>>35595012
Due to Klinefelter's Syndrome (actually diagnosed) I can't put on much muscle mass and always have low T, regardless of my lifestyle. The best I can do is walking for miles without a pause but most people can do that.
Consider yourself lucky you have the right amount of chromosomes because that additional "X" fucks your shit up forever.

>>35595165
I think people set themselves up for failure by attempting complicated shit off the bat and then assuming the whole idea is flawed instead of tweaking what's off.

Fuckin op still hasn't posted his sets.
Fuckin baby bitch.

Guy should just get some shoes and do c25k. Running is completely foolproof.

>>35595165
>Exercising is a meme
If you give me any proof where I actually said that, I will not consider you a stupid faggot.
If not, shut the fuck up.

>>35595206
kinda decided to abandon thread when this turned to a /fit/ meme debate

>>35595206
>Fuckin op still hasn't posted his sets.
>Fuckin baby bitch.
t. bodybuilding.com faggot
You cucks are even more autistic than all of r9k's KHVs combined.

>>35595176
I don't care what you do. There's no way you had "abs and everything." "Everything" is an objective standard which requires years to reach. I do not care for anything you claim.

>>35595205
Okay? Kill yourself then. Your weird ass syndrome isn't anybody elses problem. Stop telling me about it.

>>35595291
>more autistic than all of r9k's KHVs combined
In other words I belong here.
THANKYOU.
Never received such high praise in my life.

Reminder running is literally impossible to do wrong and if all you tiredfags do c25k you will get bananas results.

>>35595265

Is it your thyroid that makes you such a little bitch? I bet you'd make lots of friends on tumblr. You could all get together and whine about how it's not your fault that you're fat lazy sacks of shit, it's your thyyyyyroid doing it to you.

>>35595336
>in b4 how am I supposed to run if I'm too tired to do anything? I'm too tired to run too!

Like I said, these people deserve their lives. There's a point at which you have to just give up on them. You can present them with endless evidence and proof and methods to help them and they'll go so, so far out of their way to avoid listening to any of it because they want to be miserable. It's their excuse to avoid ever putting any effort into their lives. All they want to do is live and die like garbage while complaining the whole way down.

>>35595306
>being this triggered for getting an answer
You asked me and I answered you, what do you want?
Maybe you should kill yourself since you seem to be very sensitive about other people's problems.

>>35595455
>Sensitive about other peoples problems
>Your weird ass syndrome isn't anybody elses problem. Stop telling me about it.
>Saying I don't care is akin to saying I care too much for you
Does your stupid ass syndrome make you retarded too?

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>>35595375
>being this buttblasted about some stranger on the internet
You're the little bitch here tbqh famalam.

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>>35595498
>asks me a question
>gets an answer
>suddenly gets triggered out of nowhere
You must be on your period or something.

>>35595555
I have no idea how you're coming to these tard conclusions. Stop talking to me you ugly weird cunt.

>>35595608
>Stop talking to me you ugly weird cunt.
Or else what pussy? You wouldn't say shit to my face IRL.
Besides if you're such a /fit/fag and exercise makes you so confident, why are you starting shit with autistic virgins on r9k? You're a pathetic motherfucker.

>>35595648
>Or else what pussy? You wouldn't say shit to my face IRL.
You're right. I wouldn't want you to try and slap me with your man tits, miss, and break down on the floor like a crying mess because of all the estrogen.

>>35594252
The exercise meme is one of the worst. Exercise is total shit and kind of addictive too and makes you feel guilty when you don't do it.

There isn't a single thing I don't hate about my body and my mind.

>>35595521
>nuh-uh, i'm not stupid, you're the stupid one!

Went all out for that one, did you? Got out your little reaction image and everything.

It's cool man, we're all friends here. Tell us, for exactly what percentage of your obesity do you consider your thyroid to be at fault?

>>35595724
>Heh.... I almost got addicted to something positive that would have changed my life for the better
>Luckily I avoided it
You people are utter trashhh

man this thread turned to the nesting ground of the most bitter people of /r9k/
i'm very sorry for calling exercise a meme
forgive me

>>35595802
Hop back on that treadmill new slave.

>>35595693
>all this damage control
Just face it, you're a sissy coward, lad.

>>35595845
Only middle aged white women use treadmills, faggot.

>>35595868
You would no u addict.

>>35595866
>Gross, the weird ugly cunt thinks we're friends or something and it's talking to me again

>>35595887
Only on /r9k/ will some loser try to look down on you while standing below you.

>>35595739
>Tell us, for exactly what percentage of your obesity do you consider your thyroid to be at fault?
I don't consider the thyroid to be at fault for any of my body fat as that is in my responsibility. However, it is responsible for my constant low energy levels, regardless of any other factors.
I'm not even morbidly obese because I still managed to not eat too much and I got used to walk long distances constantly thanks to an acquaintance, I guess that's why I don't look like your typical Wal Mart sharter.

>>35595917
all this talk about standing and looking sound like a real gym addict seek help

>>35595917
>s-stop talking to me you loser ewww
Roastie detected. Top kek
>Only on /r9k/ will some loser try to look down on you while standing below you.
B-But isn't that what you're doing all the time now? I'm confused fampai.

>>35596013
>He thinks he can be above anybody as a defective abomination

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>>35596045
>Toastie Roastie is triggy pissy

>>35594252
Are you eating enough?
And do you think you might be sleeping too much?

I used to sleep like 9, 10 hours a night and was always tired, started setting alarms, now sleeping 5-6 hours a night instead but feel alot better.