Why is it that self-proclaimed liberals and feminists actually

>>35584133

There are plenty of conservative girls who wouldn't be comfortable dating somebody who isn't religious, affluent, athletic, or anti-abortion. One of my very close friends was rejected by a woman's family because he doesn't believe in God and wasn't willing to go to church. She wasn't willing to fight for him, because she also felt that he was a close-minded sinner.

However, I will admit that being "tolerant" or "woke" is very much in the vogue right now.

I would guess that educated women tend to be more well-connected than those who are not; education tends to coincide with being liberal. In other words, there are a lot more fat, ugly feminists online than fat, ugly conservatives.

Also, conservatives have their own websites and communities. Some Jesus-loving Planned Parenthood-bomber probably isn't going to be on Tinder or OkCupid.

There is no way leftists are on the average "less tolerant" than rightists. There's some clear bias in that statement. Anyone who tends to any particular extreme is not going to be all that tolerant. But they love to pretend otherwise.

because the "progressive left" has constructed a metanarrative (with an endgame of "full communism") where they are invariably on the "right side of history" by moving the goalposts, using a 'no true scotsman' fallacy, or just straight up admitting Machiavellianism when confronted with their regressive bullshit. They're so incredibly deluded and spiritually retarded that they forced Trump all the way into victory

>>35584133
>"dont talk to me if you voted for hillary"
Because she lost, so they can just laugh in your face instead.

>>35584279
>progressive left
>metanarrative
>full communism
>moving the goalposts
>no true scotsman fallacy
>machiavellianism
>regressive

this is like some kind of buzzword bingo

>>35584133
What's "mutual napping"? Sounds comfy.

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>>35584209
I guess I didn't think of it like this. I'm from the UK - so when I think "conservative", I think of less extreme points of view than the god fearing uneducated far right conservatives in the US.

It might just be because they're so vocal - but this specific point of view seems to be a lot more common than i'd expect.

It also seems to exclusively occur with people who insist on calling themselves liberals, feminists, or socialists. I find it kind of sad that people let their political standing define their entire personality.

>>35584263
I guess so - I might've worded my initial statement incorrectly. Maybe i'm more bothered about how upfront they are with their inability to accept other points of view?

I'm honestly pretty left leaning myself, but as of the past year and a half or so i've felt less and less accepted by the left, and mainly because of the sort of behavior in the OP. So much as entertaining the idea of "the other team" doing things right is met with derision.

>>35584411

My friend is actually an Iraqi refugee from a Catholic family. He's an atheist and a first-year medical student.

Intolerance is just as prevalent among members of the right-wing as it is the left. If anything, I would argue that conservatives tend to be far less accepting of dissent and difference than do those on the left.

My belief is that the prevalence of mass communications has led to a general increase in awareness about social issues relating to race, religion, and sexuality. The younger generations are more connected than ever before and adopt "tolerance" as a sort of identity. I think that's fairly normal - when an individual is in their teens or early twenties, they're still trying to figure out who they are. Folks who haven't yet developed a solid personality are probably prone to adopting ideologies in the absence of a defined character.

Most of the hard-line leftist shit will fade away as they grow older, save for a few rare exceptions.

Most people today know that hate and intolerance are on the way out. Clearly some liberals take it too far, but it's much easier to get away with disseminating shit like "no CIS-gender non-woke white males" than "no niggers" or "no Jews" or "please be anti-abortion or we can't talk."

>>35584509

I'm: >>35584526.

You're really not alone.

As a white guy who lived in South Asia and has traveled extensively around the Middle-East, I'm very bothered by the kinds of sentiments I hear many of my classmates and colleagues express. I don't understand how young people who have never traveled abroad manage to think that Muslims are a largely informed and well-meaning group.

I'm not suggesting that opposite, but I'll relay an experience I had two years ago in an integrated arts and humanities course. One girl raised her hand to answer a question and launched into a tirade about how "all the Arabs I've met have been so much better informed than many American students."

Meanwhile, I'm thinking about Turks I've met in Turkey who told me "Hitler should have finished the job" and graffiti I've seen in Kashmir which read "Welcome, Taliban!"

People on both sides of the political spectrum don't seem to appreciate that reality is never a simple black-and-white image. Shit is nuanced, and it's wrong to write anybody off unless they're genuinely stupid (which seems to be most folks but I digress).

>>35584133
but don't fucking talk to me if you voted hillary

these girls don't want to talk because racists, misogynists and homophobes really are mad lame.

you can't apply this girls bio to every liberal/feminist. if this is a dating thing or people who are looking for friends then they probably don't want to end up having debates.

the girls you're dealing with are nice people who don't believe in denying others of their rights. they don't want to talk to people who aren't nice. it's really not that hard to understand tbqhfam

>>35584526
I'd honestly have to completely disagree with you. Every friend I have that voted for Hillary is trying to cut ties with me. I voted for Hillary, I just said that I don't think Trump is doing an awful job. All my right wing friends don't give a fuck that I even voted for Hillary. It's honestly getting insane. I'm really hating it and I don't think it will end with them. One of them hasn't spoken to me since I disagreed about Obama being the best president by far in history of the us. Just seeing this behavior actually pretty eye opening.

>>35584133
Ay, there's the rub.

>>35584509
Same desu.

I was a liberal up until this last election run. It's hard for me to consider myself conservative or support trump because a lot of their beliefs and actions are nonsense driven to make the rich richer, but this identity politic shit has driven me away.

>>35584632
You seem like you've had a very interesting life, anon. thank you for your contributions to the thread!

>>35584806
Obviously i completely agree with what you're saying. I just dont understand why theyre grouping "conservative" and "trump supporter" with racist, misogynists, and homophobes.

>>35584831

Dunno.

Sounds like your friends are nutters. I voted for Bernie in the primaries and would have cast a ballot in favor of Hillary if I'd been in the United States during the election. While I did apply for an absentee ballot, my township didn't send it to my address until midway through November.

I know a handful of Trump supporters - who are, very ironically, Muslim refugees - and I don't do much more than gently poke fun at them.

I do think somebody would have to be pretty stupid to really back Trump and think he's an amazing president, but I wouldn't cut someone off for it.

>>35584879

Thanks, m8. Been a pretty interesting run, but I really need to finish my fucking degree and get a real job.

>>35584632
lmao you went to turkey

"turk" is an insult in the middle-east

erdogan is a watermelon seller

t. middle-eastern

>>35584831
I'm going to go out on a limb and conclude that your friends are either imaginary or under the age of 23.

>>35584964

I've also been to Iraq, Oman, the UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, and blah blah blah.

I'll be in Egypt and possibly Jordan over the summer as well.

>>35584411
You say that after your conservatives doomed your country?

>>35584879
because hillary pandered to minorities and convinced them that trump is hitler

>>35585083
Are you new to politics or is "pandering" just a new and exciting concept to you?

>>35584411

>god fearing uneducated far right conservatives in the US.
I have lived in the US 27 of my 29 years and I have never met somebody like this. They are a strawman charicature based on probably .5% of the population. That'd be like me saying I assume all English conservatives are EDL skinheads.

On the other hand, I have met dozens if not hundreds of stereotypical snowflake liberals, and they truly are detestable and intolerant human beings.

>>35585000
lol that sounds terrible

self-aware muslims and arabs don't like khaleejis

you shouldn't think that going to isis funding wahhabi countries will make you any wiser than your students

>>35585283
I've lived in the American Midwest for 35 of my 35 years; trust me, they exist.

>>35585122
no? just telling you why they're grouping conservatives/trump supporters with racists, misogynists and homophobes..?

>>35585346

Thanks for the insight. I'll sleep long and hard on your retardation.

>>35584133
Conservatives spend their entire lives dealing with libtards
meanwhile libtards talk to one dumbass conservative and decide they can't deal with it
Imo liberals are just as bad if not worse than conservatives about racism/pre-judgement
It's amazing how they talk about white people. they actually believe the "You can't be racist against whites" shit

>>35585409

>political descriptor + tard

Stopped reading.

>>35585403
no i'll sleep long and hard on your retardation first

>>35585388
>not all Trump supporters are bigots
>but if you're a bigot chances are you support Trump
That's the best way I've heard it explained.

>>35585283
Where do you live? San Francisco? Seattle?

Because those god-fearing uneducated conservatives are actually real people in the flyover states. There's more god-honest examples of them than there are tumblr snowflakes, I guarantee.

>>35585449

>contributes nothing of value to the conversation

Yet again.

Far right and far left are both awful

Any sane and rational human being would stay in the middle or leaning.

Because "I despise people who possess innate characteristics that I believe make them irredeemably worthless" is not a very respectable opinion to possess and may say a lot about your character, and one shouldn't expect it to be tolerated by many decent folk, specially those tho are deemed inferior.

>muh prechus opiniunz

>>35584279
the supposedly "progressive" left is extremely regressive and boils down to a twisted form of conservatism.

"I'm a very open minded and tolerant person except for [insert everything not far left] and if you are any of those things I hate you as much as Nazi's hated Jews".

Yeah totally not intolerant.

>>35585578
But in the end, the far left and far right meet in the middle. And that middle is where anyone discontent with society needs to be.

These people are just brainwashed slaves of the center left, bent on preserving capitalist society and the elite through identity politics.

>>35584133
>seem to be far less tolerant of other points of view

Why do conservatives still think this is a clever or valid criticism? It is not hypocritical for liberals to be intolerant of intolerance; it would be hypocritical to believe that racism is wrong and that only a racist or someone complicit in racism could vote Trump, and still be perfectly respectful of such people. If racism is bad then unrepentant racists are bad people and probably not worth dating/fucking. It's perfectly logical and consistent.

>>35585672
>politics is a circle

>>35585915
This.
It's a misinterpretation that the left ever vowed for unconditional tolerance. There is no such thing. It's not viable. Unconditional tolerance would lead to chaos; observance of human rights entails that some standards need to be enforced so such rights won't be violated, which requires some sort of punishment/ostracism depending on how severe the violation is. What the left believes in is growing past trivial codes & dumbass criteria when judging value and merit; so reward and punishment fit the deeds.

>>35586023
It isn't, but the same ideas manifest in different ways depending on who you side with.

>>35585915
>intolerant of intolerance
>OP is talking about differing points of view
>picture in OP is talking about people who merely support a man
explain to me how having a different point of view or supporting trump makes you intolerant?

>>35586079
Why would you support someone, if you not fully believe in what they're preaching?

Giving someone your vote is distinct from actively supporting them.

>>35586129
assuming that they both support and vote for the person, then what?

>>35586137
Are you rerarded?
Do you even know why I mentioned the vote at all?

>>35586079
>who merely support a man...who dogwhistled so hard even humans could hear it, vowed to do a bunch of stupid shit and is a blatantly corrupt individual

Why must you play coy with us, MAGA-hat owner?

>>35584133
hilarious logic, considering almsot everyone here exclusively wants a "LE REDPILLED GF"

>>35584133
>completely refusing to even talk to someone with mildly differing opinions - kind of bums me out.
It burns me too, as I happen to study in a place full of such people, people who obviously have condemned me as a nazi-racist-fascist, as I do not support limitless immigration and want full details of criminals reported in the media, including skin color. Following the late MEGALOMANIAC IDIOTISM of an APE SPECIES calling itself Homo Sapiens (hahaha, how humorous), deviding itself into BRAINLESS (political) PACKS, I have figured it out, that I am being seriously, viciously HATED by my student colleagues for these very reasons I gave. Seriously, most of the people are nothing but COMPLETELY BRAINLESS APES, who should be sent back to the jungle.

These idiots should be given some real spanking each time they do it, refuse to talk to someone with differing opinions. It's a crime to discriminate someone like that, and they are not going to achieve anything through with it either, except war.

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>>35586495
>let's promote tolerance of intolerance by BEATING THE SHIT OUT OF THESE DAMN LIBERALS

kek

It's so inconsistent, it actually breaks through the bullshit barrier, comes full circle and almost becomes sort of consistent.

>>35585654
Nobody responded to this truth bomb because it's too real.

>>35584279
wow so many "scare" "quotes" this is a "nice" "post" (((friend))) "upvoted"""

>>35584831
i'd guess that you're probably just not a very good or fun person to be around

>>35587348
I wasn't trying to promote any tolerance of the intolerance, but of course you are making that interpretation, as you are a typical pack animal, who, on the basis of ONE or TWO opinions decides what PACK the other person belongs to. You see a person wearing a (anonymous) red cap, and there's a bulb of light in your head screaming: "RACIST, RACIST, RACIST!". In that sense you are no better than any right wing idiot, who, when seeing a person eating sprouts, has a bulb of light in HIS head screaming: "LEFTARD, LEFTARD, LEFTARD!". Same goes with many other things of course: you see a person who wants full details of a lose criminal being published in the media (to protect people), and the same idiot lamp lights up in your head announcing: "RACIST, RACIST, RACIST!". You do not even BOTHER to ask, what are the other opinions of that person, even if they might ALL point to the direction of your PACK. And this is what I hate in people of today: they have literally degenerated to the level of APES, in this TOTALLY IDIOTIC political polarization of today. It's f*cking disgusting.

And no, I do not want the liberals being spanked because they are liberals, as you seem to think in your apy head. I want them to be spanked for thinking they are so superior to someone else, that they do not even have to talk to those people. That's the same as denying someone's human dignity.

I guess I do not really belong to the human race, being unable to degenerate at the level of an ape, when it is needed. :)

I'm not liberal or a republican either as I do not live in America. I do not know who I will vote the next time, as most of the political parties as well as most humans in them are sickening idiots.

>>35584526
>I would argue that conservatives tend to be far less accepting of dissent and difference than do those on the left.
A religious, conservative family is arguably more likely to disown someone, I'll accept that much.

The difference is once they disown the kid they mostly fuck off and stay in their own circle. Meanwhile at another college a bit south of mine, they had an entire dedicated to "erasing whiteness" and preaching about communism. When was the last time you saw a preacher at college that did anything more substantial than yelling in a corner with a sign?

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>>35584133
>tolerant of other points of view
>must be willing to date blithering imbeciles with retarded worldviews

Whiny, screeching conservitards need to fuck off and stop bitching.

>>35584133
>vegetarians that won't even fuck dogs, huh, not such tolerant animal lovers after all are they??

>>35589249
I really find it weird that people focus so much on military spending. It's flawed definitely, but Medicare alone costs more than the entire military budget let alone factoring in other benefits.

>>35589324
The US not only spends more than any other country, but more than the next 9 countries COMBINED. In any year that the US isn't fighting a large conventional war (read: almost all of them) that money is effectively wasted, or at best, corporate welfar worth hundreds of billions to already wealthy arms industries. (Source: I work in that industry)
Medicare saves and improves lives of people in the most dire need.
In other words, the two are completely uncomparable unless you're a braindead simpleton

>>35584133
Liberals are only tolerant of views that support theirs.

This is because they are absolutely, positively, indisputably convinced their beliefs are 100% correct and any other is simply wrong. And they won't tolerate wrong beliefs.
Unless those wrong beliefs are held by non-whites, then they have to be respected because otherwise would be racist. And if a liberal is racist then anything and everything they do is immediately wrong.

It's all quite simple, really.

>>35584133
Neither side of the political party like having their views challenged

>>35589389
>The US not only spends more than any other country, but more than the next 9 countries COMBINED.
And?

Like people seem to forget that California has a GDP comparable to the United Kingdom. Our country is fucking huge. % of GDP gives a better perspective. Military is 3.3% of our GDP, and 1.9% for the U.K. 1.2% for Germany. 2.1% for France. We're spending a good bit more than our major allies as a % even then, but it doesn't sound quite as severe as the previous infographic when you bring everything into context.

Cite-http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/MS.MIL.XPND.GD.ZS?year_high_desc=true

>>35584133
I'm just so tired of this. We need to return to small community centered societies. We could all get along and be happy.

>>35589739
Amen

>don't fantasize about gf
>fantasize about world made of peaceful tribal hunter-gatherer societies

I would still get cucked by tallchads so...

blue lives?

They use mob suppression in order to avoid claims of censorship. It's a soft form of authoritarianism that really is frightening.

>>35590110
Basically police lifes

>>35586079
You have to understand that their conception of tolerance rests it's foundation on a paradox. They know it isn't sustainable and exists solely to justify their escalation of force. Every word spewed from the mouth of a leftist is nothing more than a cynical power play.