>people in their early 20s who are lower middle class shitting

>>35543205
Unless the parents are good people

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>>35543283
Good people wouldn't mix up a kid on their poorfag life. They usually wait until they're richer.

>>35543205
For the good of the child's health, it's best that the parents have it in their early 20s. Otherwise they're prone to autism and other genetic conditions from birth.

>>35543323
This is a meme. Late 20s is best. Ever notice that nigs and spics have kids in their early 20s and no other race does

>>35543323
I think most people would rate health higher than wealth, especially in a first world nation.

>>35543342
"The younger a woman is, the younger her eggs are, which means they are less prone to chromosomal mistakes," says Richard J. Paulson, M.D., director of the University of Southern California Fertility Program in Los Angeles"

It's just a scientific fact.

>>35543283
I'm in my late 20s and quite a few of my former classmates have young children now. ALL of them are trash. I mean dumb as rocks, poor as fuck, absolute trash humans. Their children will be dumb and poor too.

It makes me wish there was SOME qualification required for prospective parents. Make them take a class, SOMETHING at least.

>>35543369
>It makes me wish there was SOME qualification required for prospective parents.

I agree with this, but I do not think how rich someone is should be a criteria.

Isn't Stefan Molyneuxs solution correct then? Abolish any sort of welfare/helping hand from the government which will force people to get married/work together or else they are financially fucked

>>35543365
Some day soon, they're going to get all women to freeze some eggs at the age of 16 so they can have kids whenever the fuck they want.

I expect most women will then go for spermdonor fertilisation and have a surrogate carry the baby. Then they'll have a nanny raise it and we'll all wonder what is even the fucking point anymore.

>>35543473
No. Poor people always have more kids, the poorer they are the more kids they have. Just look at 3rd world countries, there must be something in their subconscious telling them to reproduce as much as possible or their genes will die

> Be middle/lower middle class in your late twenties
> Have child
> Child grows up without many opportunities

> Be upper-middle/upper class in your mid-thirties
> Have child
> Child has autism

You really can't win.

>>35543578
>something in their subconscious telling them to reproduce as much as possible or their genes will die

yea, I think they call that a sex drive

>>35543644
>be middle/lower middle class in your late twenties
>have child
>let upper-middle/upper class in their mid-thirties adopt the child
>child has no autism
>child grows up with many opportunities
>poor people get to cuck the rich
Everyone wins.

>>35543578
Many hands make light work? Have more kids and you can use them for labour to make the whole family richer.
And there's always a chance that one of them will be born a genius and devise a plan to get you all out of poverty. Or maybe one will grow up to be hot as fuck and can marry some rich idiot, then move the whole family into the mansion.

>>35543205
The only redeemable quality of marrying in early 20s is that your parents can take care of your kids in weekdays while you build a stable income

>>35543205
for some people it's their endgame, they can't ascend past what they already archieved thus getting children to expirience the joy of parenting. Of course they are saying that the child is beautiful because you can't attribute anything positive other than that, maybe that it is fat, at least in some culture.
In some countries children are insurance for age, and the cheapest work force possible.

This.

There are do many girls from my high school who got knocked up. I don't wanna judge or be mean, but they were fucking retarded for not aborting immediately.

Like, I'm in university right now and the work load necessary to get good grades, go to job conferences and network, meet professors, volunteer, do extracurriculars, cook and clean on my own, etc., is immense. You can't fucking do that with a kid in a worthwhile amount of time unless you're some sort of ubermensch.

Some chick from my high school got fucking uppity with me when she asked me about my applications for grad school and I said that pursuing higher education + raising a kid / bring pregnant is going to be very hard because both are physically stressful. I told her school eats away at sleep, something you seriously need if you're going to have a baby or a toddler.

She got so fucking mad at the tender suggestion of delaying school, or it not being worth her investment that she stopped talking to me, and wrote a five fucking page Facebook status about " elitist bitches".

> she attempted to go to school to be a musician
> dropped out due go legitimately family problems
> wants to do pre-law and become a " corporate lawyer " and make bank.
> she is now getting married to a stupid fat fuck I had art class with
> my friend fucked him and he had a literal micropenis apparently
> she posts statuses all the time about what a great dad he is for doing the fucking bare minimum of parenthood

Like teehee-fucking-ho, your husband studying "design" at a local college sometimes changes a diaper. Great fucking choice.


Like seriously, why do these people have children, but continue to plan their lives as if they don't?

>>35543435
It should but only to the extent that the income can support a child growing up. That's not including the income tax for having a kid, which most people take advantage of.

>>35543435
>I agree with this, but I do not think how rich someone is should be a criteria.

Think about it this way anon, raising a child costs a lot of money, if you're lower middle class living a pretty shit life there's no way you could support a kid. Better to have the income to support yourself and the kid, rather than only half ass it

The only solution is to have a kid with a young 20 something, not a woman your own age.

>>35544085
It would prevent many high quality children from being born, simply out of an aversion to 'socialism' which americans seem to have.

Prospective parents should be tested for physical and genetic fitness, IQ and ability to understand the thoughts of various philosophers.

>>35544136
Some of that is out of their control but it does make sense. Can you imagine the backlash it would have because lots of people would feel it's infringing on their rights? I'd want to have a child or two but seriously trying to test my trivia of various philosphers? Yeah I'll study for it but it's still a retarded way to judge a fit parent.

>>35544193
This is in a hypothetical scenario in which the world is ruled by an oligarchy of philosophers, with the best interests of humanity in mind

>>35544210
Maybe try to stick to things that can actually happen.

>>35544277
I am going to have to disqualify you from prospective parenthood on the grounds that you lack vision.

>>35544337
> you will pay for your lack of vision!

>>35543311
>wait
>moms eggs dry up
>child has autism

>>35543283
this doesn't happen. everyone who has kids when they are under 25 usually is an idiot.

>>35543342
>Ever notice that nigs and spics have kids in their early 20s and no other race does
idiot desu

>>35544409
Why? It is clearly the more intelligent thing to do, as you have a lower chance of the child getting genetic defects.

>>35543342
spics have kids when they're 11

niggers usually have to wait to rape a woman at 12 or 13 when they're in pack somewhere.

>>35544461
> implying genetics was a factor in any of those decisions