Why do girls hate virgin guys so much? I've been googling

>>35536776
They like to be told what to do and are submissive. It makes them dry and embarrased to say what they want, and they cringe as a guy cums too early from not getting desensitized too.

Friendly reminder that this board contains actual shit-posting women pretending to be dudes aiming to take over R9K al la invasion of the body snatchers

>>35536776
Because if you're still a virgin then it means no other woman wanted to bed you and therefore you're low value piece of shit she shouldn't be with because... well because others didn't want you.

On the other hand if you fuck a lot then she'll want you because if others wanted you then there must be something cool about you and she could later bring it up in front of her friends to get cred.

It's kinda like with iphone. No woman really gives a shit whether the iphone is good or bad or how much it costs. They want it because their friends have it and if they do, then it must be good or at least good enough for them. They won't go for an unknown LG ground or whatever.

The good part of this whole thing though is that you can literally lie to women about your partner count if they don't know you well enough.

>>35536824
I hate submissive women.

>>35536871
>women post on the r9k
No it doesn't faggot, and, friendly reminder, if it did pointing that out makes them take it over by being the center of attention.

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>>35536776
jokes on you

I will never be in this situation

>>35536924
Then you'll probably want to date dikes.
>baleyjay.filetype

>>35536776
>I've been googling this for an hour

And yet you provided no proof to back up what you're saying. I suppose I could just google it myself, but I don't really care enough about your shitpost to do so.

>>35536960
I'm not going to link a fuckload of plentoffish threads. You can easily find them yourself.

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>>35536776
Kek, 'fifi'
>be in chemistry junior year
>sit in front of a guy who was in juvie
>tells me about fifi and playing 'bingo' in the showers
>mfw

>>35536928
You fool! roasties are a distraction! Don't you ever think it's a little too convenient that there are always roasties and traps around? It's them! they're here already! why else are there so many threads about it al the time? Open your eyes people before it's too late!

>>35536990
Why are you posting this ironic garbage?

In seriousness, you're either a faggot or should go to wizchan if you don't want to talk about what you want.

>>35537042
If I said I was here for the (you)s would you believe me?

>>35536975
I knew you'd say that.

Everyone just ignore this thread, it's OP attempting some really shitty bait.

Women don't want to do work during sex, they want to lay back and let Chad do the work. The idea of teaching is the total opposite.

>>35536776

preselection.

girls like guys who other girls like

its the same reason why celebrities, or boy bands are huge

remember how tim tebow had this huge scandal about how his model girlfriend dumped him because he refused to have sex with her because he's a virgin and he was saving it for marriage? TIM FUCKING TEBOW

girls don't hate virgin guys
girls hate how most virgin guys are

you're a fucking loser

you've never even held hands with a girl, do you think thats attractive to a girl?

it's like saying

hmm
lets say you have some kind of gaming club
or anime club
or some bullshit you're into

and some dude comes in
and he's never played ANY video games, or watched ANY anime, or done ANY shit in x hobby whether its a political club or whatever

you're going to be off put by them righjt?


and l m a o

its literally that

if you feel like that's wrong, that's sad

>>35536940
Fucking hacked through mail

>>35536924
Probably because you're a submissive failure yourself. It's a weak quality in men.

>>35536928
nah m8 they do. They're the same types of women who post on their Twitter and YouTube accounts le funne ironic maymays xd

Basically, they're all extremely attractive women who have agressive and bitchy personalities and hate "nice guys", while simultaneously having all the same traits of being a weeaboo and all around annoying cunt, except they have pussies and an attractive face so they get a pass.

They're people like shoe0nhead and nyanners. Think they're funny for making edgy jokes and acting like a bitch and no one bats an eye because they're women.

>>35537173
i agree

also though, nice guys is a thing
that no women like

theres a difference between someone whos genuinely a good guy, and a "nice guy"
check out /r/niceguys

and>>35537086
is on point

>>35537173
>"nice guys"

Nobody likes "nice guys" because they're some of the worst people to deal with.

Anyway, to answer the OP, robots like to claim nobody wants used goods, but the reality is unused goods are the most unattractive type around. Failure to develop properly by the time you reach adulthood is a massive red flag

>>35537194
Oh yeah I know, I was talking about women who essentially "bully" (I use that word lightly) any man that isn't a Chad because they see them as being weak and inferior regardless of whether or not they fit into the actual "nice guy" persona.

Poster above who talked about 'preselection' is right. There was a study, I can't remember the exact numbers, but show women a picture of a guy and tell them he's single, and they rate him a 6. Tell them he's in a relationship/married they rate him a 9.

>>35536911
>need experience to get sex
>need sex to get experience
where else did i see that pattern again

>>35537364
Jobs :)

And as with jobs, all you have to do is LIE. Or get intership by getting a prostitute

Lying is better though.

>>35537364
Probably everywhere because you're always looking to excuse your own shortcomings.

>>35537382
This prostitute meme needs to end. Have sex with a normal girl like a normal person. And if it ever gets out that you've hired a prostitute you're done. Even relationships you've been in for some time can end immediately upon finding that out.

>>35537408
>This prostitute meme needs to end. Have sex with a normal girl like a normal person. And if it ever gets out that you've hired a prostitute you're done. Even relationships you've been in for some time can end immediately upon finding that out.
Why would it ever get out? I went to a prostitute once to try it out as a new experience, like you would with drugs or new food. It also unlocked me sexually really even though the experience was underwhelming. If you can't really have sex with normal girls then hookers are your best shot.

>>35537408
>Even relationships you've been in for some time can end immediately upon finding that out.
Why do you want to pretend to be a normalfag so bad? Normals are pretty open about fucking prostitutes.

>>35537408
>Have sex with a normal girl like a normal person.
Prosties are cheaper and functionally identical to fucking a barslut, you blushing virgin.

>And if it ever gets out that you've hired a prostitute you're done
No one cares, nerd

>>35537408
>Have sex with a normal girl like a normal person

clearly that's impossible as a virgin

>>35537542
No. They aren't. What dumb TV show have you been watching where anyone who admitted they had fucked a prostitute didn't immediately get seen as scummy? Are you European?

>>35537545
Lost my virginity 8 years ago. And not to a prostitute either. Stay mad faggot.

>>35537581
Lose your virginity to a normal girl like a normal person then. Why these semantics?

>>35537520
>He compares eating new food to fucking a literal whore
You have issues mate. I hope nobody finds out for your sake.

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>>35537670
>"Lost my virginity 8 years ago."
>afraid of prostitutes
At the most, you lost your first baby tooth 8 days ago

>>35537691
I know you thought you were saying something here but you're not. What point are you trying to make?

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>>35537670
>TV show have you been watching where anyone who admitted they had fucked a prostitute didn't immediately get seen as scummy?

>burgers literally view TV as a reflection of reality

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>>35537709
>What point are you trying to make?
That you're a painfully obvious incel.

>>35537545
prostitutes are cheaper in the long run, no time to waste + listening to lame stories + dinners to pay etc

>>35537581
you can though

if you really think about it, everyone with a girlfriend was a virgin at one point

so how'd they do it?
i'm sure not many of them fucked prostitutes

there are a few options :

1) go to parties, hook up etc
this can work as long as you're socially capable of carrying conversations and appearing to be a good status male

2) hook up apps , picking up girls

personally i love going to punk shows and picking up girls, it's my music, my scene, and i just feel insanely comfortable talking to girls

3) meet girls through friends of friends

4) just lie (>>35537382
)

you have no idea how much it works
call your things 'flings'

'i used to fuck this one girl who would always order pineapple on her pizza , what the fuck? '

or 'lmao you like twenty one pilots? this girl i used to see was obsessed, it was hella weird how bad she loved them, she had like their names written on their underwear'

there was a really good thread in the archives somewhere where someone said you have to be a 'movie version of yourself'
and its actually really solid advice

be someone you would want to be
like the normie saying, fake it til you make it

if you're a socially awkward recluse who makes music or draws or photography

spin it into being a misunderstood artist or a passionate musician

if you're into video games or into building things or fixing up your car
just spin it as something cool

everything your girl sees she puts on broadcast to her friends

friends : "well what is he like?"
her : " it's really attractive really, he's really passionate about fixing his dad's old car, he loves getting his hands dirty and something about it turns me on"

whats he like?"

her : "he's always messing around on his guitar and talking about all these bands its like my own little coachella when he plays his stereo"

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Think of it from their perspective.

>Why has he gone this long without meeting a girl willing to have sex with him by now?
>Is there a specific reason for it?
>Do I want to find out?
>He's going to be terrible and have no confidence; this will not be fun for me
>It's not reasonable to expect me to hold this guy's hand through the most basic aspects of being in a relationship and having sex, when he should've figured this out 10 years ago
>If I take his V-card is he going to act like I'm his only chance at getting sex in his life and be really clingy and put me on a pedestal?

I can't even blame them.

I don't understand why girls like sucking on penis, I see the porn and girls talking about it irl and they love sucking on some cock... but why? It's not appetizing, pre cum tastes weird and sometimes men don't wash before you do it... also the fact that cum could spurt out at any second and get in your eye would feel like salt water being thrown on them. I am not interested in sucking cock it's gross i don't get why everyone else likes it... and don't get me started with sex... just eat me out forever and leave me alone fuck.

>>35537712
Are all people who visit prostitutes retarded? I was clearly pointing out that whatever dumb position you hold must be from TV because no normal people think it's perfectly acceptable to pay a prostitute for sex.

>>35537722
>Painfully obvious
>Implying I'm not engaged, have had sex with multiple different women in the past, and it was all for free
I can't imagine being so socially crippled that I was incapable of accepting strangers were doing better than me

>>35537728
No post has ever convinced me that the poster has never talked to a woman as much as this one.

>>35537728
>if you're a socially awkward recluse who makes music or draws or photography
>spin it into being a misunderstood artist or a passionate musician
Holy shit I'm literally this. It works.

>you have no idea how much it works
>call your things 'flings'
>'i used to fuck this one girl who would always order pineapple on her pizza , what the fuck? '
I'm the anon who advised lying and this is very true and I actually did this shit. Actually all the years of watching porn finally paid off because I literally made myself sound like Chad who sounded like a very sexually experienced Chad which eventually led to me losing my virginity on the party I lied on because one girl actually bought it all and decided I'm fuckable.

>>35537765

girls that don't suck dick have always been fucking weird

every single girl i've been with that goes 'i'm not blwoing you'

has either had bpd , or was abused as a kid and it triggers memories , or is just plain out fucking weird as fuck

the girls that were abused i respected and told them it was okay and most of the time they ended up doing it anyway because they loved me

the girls who were all 'i'm too good to suck dick' i'd force on my dick and most of the time they'd enjoy it

l m a o

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>>35537769
>I was clearly pointing out that whatever dumb position you hold must be from TV

>burgers literally assume that all opinions are derived from television

>>35537770
lmao believe what you want dude, i can show you my snapchat or my text logs or the nudes i got this morning to prove it

you can stay in denial

>>35537670
>TV show have you been watching
I don't really watch anything except marble machines on jewtube, fyi. i dont know what kind of world you live in but i have seen a good share of couples irl openly admitting to fucking prostitutes in the past, with their gfs/wives present. worst case scenario are couples bantering at each other and everyone start to laugh.
tldr for brainlets: normals dont care. begone virgin in denial.

>>35536911

What if girls were interested in you but you just don't want to lose your virginity?

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>>35537769
I can't imagine being so socially crippled that I have to lie to strangers on 4chan about how I'm doing "better" than them

>>35537741
Then how am I to ever lose my virginity? How am I to get experience? I live in america where hookers are illegal. I checked craigslist and I couldn't find shit. It was just "teehee looking for a date need to see if ur cute blah blah" I didn't see any of that "roses" shit.

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>>35537826
>i can show you my snapchat or my text logs
No you can't. You would have posted them.

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>>35537086
>>35537194
>not even trying to fit in
Goons get the fuck off this site REEEEEEEEE
Spare us your eye cancer formatting.

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>>35537784
always works man , remember

the reason why girls date you is not only becuase they're attracted to you, but because they can show their friends
'look at my boyfriend, he can sing and play guitar and surfs on the weekends and he volunteers at an animal shelter and spends his time on some underground /mu/sic forums, what does your boyfriend do?'

its like how your mom would always show off to other moms, "my son does piano and plays soccer etc etc'

and yeah, the trick to lying though is to BELIEVE your own lie

that is what confidence is

if you're with a girl and you're making out (which is also mainly one of the things you can't fake, if you're a bad kisser girls can usually tell, but it doesn't take a lot of work to get better) and you just grab her ass and move your arm around and feel her tits up and move your knee into her crotch and feel her go 'hngggg'' she knows your not inexperienced

or if you're in bed and you just grab her and shove her down and call her a slut or if you just go 'ride me babe' like in all the pornos it works

>>35537844
theres nothing wrong with that, desu as a good catholic i didn't want to lose it for the longest time and i maybe missed out on 7 different girls to have sex with (didn't stop oral or anything like that though) , but in the end you want to and the flesh wins

>>35537864
lmao everyone types their own way fag

>>35537836
>Desperately believing in the lie that any well-adjusted person who values themselves is going to be okay with their partner having visited a prostitute
I shouldn't expect any better from someone who thought they had to lose their virginity to a prostitute. Have fun telling that story without people laughing at you or being disgusted.

>>35537847
Neither can I. So I just tell the truth.

>>35536776
I accidentally told my first gf that I was a virgin *just* before we were going to have sex for the first time and she refused to have sex with me that night. She told me a 20 year-old virgin was kind of a turn-off and weird. We ended up having sex the next day though.

>>35537848
Licensed prostitution is legal in the state of Nevada.
But assuming you don't feel like booking a flight to Vegas just for hookers, welcome to the "experience needed for entry-level job" dilemma. You should have made more of an effort to talk to girls and have sex when you were in high school or college, when it was socially acceptable to be an awkward virgin, but I'm sure you were coddled with the reassuring lie that you shouldn't rush it and that there's nothing wrong with being a male virgin.

>>35537903
>I shouldn't expect
>[TRIGGERED]
first hand life experience talks louder, virgin in denial. xoxo this is not a debate.

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>>35537903
>desperately believing the lie that it's okay to value someone who has had 70 cocks in her mouth and has taken 50 dicks inside of her and fucked random guys off of tinder and from bars in her 20s l m a o

dude, grow up
make some actual friends and find out how much girls fuck, and you'd be disugsted to find out how slutty girls are
even the 'good girls' are fucking whores

>pic related

>>35537848
>>35537848

>Then how am I to ever lose my virginity?

You were supposed to lose your virginity in high school when it was socially acceptable. If you wasted your youth playing video games or other gay shit, then you are doomed to have trouble in your dating life.

Is it fair? No, it isn't.

But you are just like the women who spend their teens sleeping around excessively and not committing, and then complaining that they can't hold down a relationship in their twenties, because every man sees them as a slut.
Is it fair for them? No.
But that is life.

When the betas and sluts reach their 40's, these social failures inevitably end up "settling down" with each other. So you have that to look forward to.

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>>35537903
>So I just tell the truth.

>>35537520
>>35537542
>>35537545
Holy shit nice samefag.
What a vain and frivolous existence you must have.

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>>35537903
>Have fun telling that story without people laughing at you or being disgusted.
Not how life works outside mummy's basement, virgin

>>35537965
not even 40s, 30s bro

>>35537955
Not that guy, but I have "actual friends" and it varies a lot. Stop being a shit head.

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>>35537988
>btfo by 3 people
>waaahhhh le samefag

>>35537995
not that guy but,
>HOLY SHIT I HAD SEX WITH A PROSTITUTE MY LIFE IS CHANGED!
Yes because encouraging someone to stick their dick in a strangers vagina is definitely going to cure loneliness.

>>35538036
>>HOLY SHIT I HAD SEX WITH A PROSTITUTE MY LIFE IS CHANGED!
I haven't even had sex with a prostitute, you buttblasted incel

>>35538021
Wow you really got me there.
Notice how you didn't respond to the second part of my post.

I'm going to a PU bootcamp soon. Virginfag. It'll be fun LMAO

>>35538049
Never implied you did, you absolute moronic trash. I showed how flawed your mentality is.

>>35538050
The part where you proved you were too stupid to properly use "frivolous"?

That was funny enough in its own right.

>>35537965
>But you are just like the women who spend their teens sleeping around excessively and not committing, and then complaining that they can't hold down a relationship in their twenties, because every man sees them as a slut.
Nope. I'm not going to bite the bait.

>>35538060
That wasn't my mentality you fucking dweeb.

The mentality is that absolutely no one gives a shit if you buy a whore.

Because women are maximum cuck tier decision makers. They want to get fucked and told what is nice. They want to obey. Thats why assholes get girls.

>>35536824
Oh wow this reminds me why I have no problem being single.

Women expect too much

>>35537086
Why would I be off put?
I would tell him some interesting games or anime. If someone is interested in a new hobbie, why would I be so condescending over it?

Whatever. Guess it's a normie trait. They did the same thing back in highschool when they still knew I was a virgin.

>>35538075
There are people that do care and people that don't care. You can go around pushing your anecdotes, but neither of you want to admit that people vary a lot. It's probably because you're both retarded and need to fall back on simple ways of processing information.

>>35538075
Except maybe your parents? Or have your parents already given up on you?

>>35537408
>it's ok for women to be whores, you still have to accept them
>it's somehow shameful fucking prostitutes though

wew

>>35538101
you're not thinking like a girl

you're thinking like a good guy, and yes i said good guy
as in you're probably a nice person and you're probably chill and we'd get along in real life

but hm
to illustrate what i mean better

pretend we were all in gym class
and for some reason the teacher makes you captain for basketball or soccer or whatever

and you take turns with the other captain to pick players for your team

do you want
1) the tallest / most athletic / player who will score the most goals , whose won multiple medals or championships with the team and is team captain of the football team

or

2) some wimpy, scrawny kid who can't even kick or throw the ball who will literally just stand there?

sure, being a nice guy you'd probably want to give the weak kid a chance because you empathize with him and relate

but the LOGICAL answer would be that most people , and all girls will pick the first

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>>35538065
Didn't use it incorrectly.
Still have yet to address the obviously bigger picture because you can't debate it lel

>>35537542
pretty much
Maybe not when women are around, but I've spoken to several number of guys who casually bring up how they've fucked escorts or prosies.

No one really judges or cares.

Then again, most of these guys looked normal. I guess if they were fat or disfigured or something, some judgement would be placed.

Bunch of degenerates up in this thread

Stop taking sex so seriously you fuckin virgins.

>>35537670
sounds like you're the one whose watching to many MTV shows and are parroting what they say.

No one really cares who you fuck unless that person is within your circle.

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>>35538173
Tell that to humanity.

>>35537770
right?
Probably a new brand of autism

>>35538173
There's nothing wrong with taking sex seriously. At the same time, there's nothing wrong with not taking it seriously. There are plenty of people in each camp for everyone. This unnecessary animosity between arbitrary values is retarded.

>>35537120
A danish axe would never cut through good mail like that.

>>35538146
>but the LOGICAL answer would be that most people , and all girls will pick the first

>Girl : "I want a tall, alpha, rich Chad"
>Yaaahh u go gurl

>Boy: " I want a hot girl that I can connect with and fuck"
>Wow, sexist, entitled, chauvinist creep! Only want women as your sex object? Loser virgin. You're dying alone

Im not saying people shouldn't prefer the options, but you have to admit there is double standards.

>>35537897
how does one lack enough self-awareness to believe there own blatant lies?

>>35537965
kek
oh boy, almost had me anon

>>35538296
And you're not wrong that there are double standards
But it isn't really a double standard
More of a quality thing

Even ugly girls want a good, desireable, high status man

guys want someone attractive yes , butt he whole "sexist etc shit" is just a way of shit testing you
If you bend over backwards and go "omg so sorry pls I didn't mean to be sexist" they'll see you as beta
If you do the Chad thing and literally grab the girls ass and tell her "you know you want my cock" it's different yknow

But yes, most of the time since the woman has to choose its her

The guys are the ones going for the girl
So she has the options to choose from
C'est la vie

>>35538345
>guys want someone attractive yes , butt he whole "sexist etc shit" is just a way of shit testing you

Shit testing is just a meme conjured up by PUA. Girls can spot a beta easily and put no effort to see his potential.

>>35538146
That's implying anyone whose had sex even once fucks like a pornstar from there on after.

But yeah whatever. You don't really have to convince me about how women think, I know that much won't change.

Just wanted to respond to whatever reasoning you had.

>>35538216
>There's nothing wrong with taking sex seriously
Yes there is. You think fuckin Arabs or Asians or Africans talk about this shit all the damn time?

No, they fuckin get arranged-married at 17 and then keep their mouths shut while having kids.

You fuckin degenerates are gonna be the death of your race.

>>35536776
Just a heads-up, you're expected to be totally OK with sending pictures of your dick and naked body. Otherwise you're a self conscious freak. No, being ok with showing yourself naked to them in person isn't enough, you have to be ok with risking being a victim of revenge porn. It's considered perfectly normal having 100 pictures of your naked lover :)

Holy fuck, the cancer really came out in full force for this thread

>>35537408
Roastie detected.
Originally too.

These threads always make me feel bad and just make me less motivated to lose my v-card.

At this rate I'll really be getting a hooker at 30.

>>35536776
Eh, who cares. I'm perfectly fine dying as a pure virgin as long as i'm capable of immersing myself into hobbies and studies. I'm not saying that i'll avoid it on purpose but if it happens - ok, if it doesnt - it doesnt.

Because girls mostly exist on a social plane. Therefore, their main utility is interacting with others. Because of that, they perceive inability of proper such interaction as a serious handicap.
On the other hand, males are supposed to be strong and intelligent.
Typical traits of masculinity are strength, patience, wisdom, honor and so on.

Typical traits of feminity are beauty, delicacy and submissivness.
Virgin males not only fail to interact with girls, thus failing to fit into female's picture of what a man should do with them. They usually lack typical masculine traits, which puts them nowhere near an actual man in the eyes of a female.

There is nothing wrong about it, it's the same reason men hate fat women. We can try to change it or hate back, but that's like hating things for serving their purpose.

Because its like sitting down for an epic match of Magic the Gathering, only to find out you have to teach your opponent not only the basics of this specific game, but card games in general.

>>35539592
>only to find out that your opponent doesnt have any cards
fixed.

>>35536776
If you want to lose virginity you're better off not giving them any ideas and just do whatever you've been reading/seeing in VNs and/or MeetNFuck games. Use your imagination on how you want to treat her as something to get off with while not forgetting to try to please her too. That much is simple af

T. 21yo virgin

>>35539592
Not really. MTG is significantly more complicated than sex.

>>35539765
First you have to get girl into bed with you. I guess it's easier to get hit by lightning and finding 100 dollars at the same moment.

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>>35536776
>Why do girls hate virgin guys so much?
they don't
> I've been googling this for an hour
The internet isn't a great bastion of knowledge, your search alone is only going to yield a phrase used and only the worse would obsess over that, assuming they are even really girls and not guys either shittting it up or just wanting to keep certain culture memes going.
>if just before having sex you tell them you're a virgin they'll send your ass home.
Again, sluts gonna slut, they don't want love and you can never tell who's just wanting their cherry destroyed and who is going to go 100% codependent because you were their first pussy.

Good amount of girls out there don't care. Granted you ain't gonna find them at a bar scene and most might already be taken considering your age, but it stands most of the girls that care about that shit are turbo sluts.

>>35539839
>they don't
How do you know?

>>35537728
nigga you do t even have money in the first place. Women are hella fucking cheap if you're not some sperg who thinks they have to buy all sorts of shit for them. They're happy with 90% of the time you spend with them is on a couch or in bed watching Netflix and ordering a pizza. You do t have to buy them a fucking ribeye steak and Hamilton tickets every fucking date

it's because /most/ women expect a dude to take charge and are attracted to that as well. i used to think like that but now i think virgin males are cute. hence, my shota fetish.

>>35539849
Not anon but I always find this charming about r9k. A person claims girls have awful personality traits with no evidence and the majority here believes it without question yet one shares that isn't the case and it is demanded to have source and irrefutable facts. But for what it's in my situations a good amount of young girls(US PA) wanted a virgin because they were ones themselves and/or dislike the idea of a guy with experience because they cheat or some shit.

>>35539899
>But for what it's in my situations a good amount of young girls(US PA) wanted a virgin because they were ones themselves and/or dislike the idea of a guy with experience because they cheat or some shit.
That usually happens in high school or even college. I'm talking about those guys who are virgins in mid-late 20's hence i asked how did he know that girls dont hate "old" virgins.

>>35539849
If your argument is to claim it abroad we will never get it resolved but in cases of both internet and irl you'll discover many college age and younger woman don't want mansluts or even dislike virgins. Guys between each other obsess far more about sex then women. Again, you have sluts and what not but why are you caring about their opinion?

>>35539920
except nothing in the OP gave an age. That said think about it. You are 25+ female and still single/looking? You are likley not a stable person or a fine catch.

>>35539920
> I'm talking about those guys who are virgins in mid-late 20's
I think the answer is pretty black and white then why they care.

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Because women are whores who base sex as the end-all, be-all but cannot make decisions for themselves.

>>35539943
>You are 25+ female and still single/looking?
I'm a 24 year old virgin. If i'd be female i could get laid/get bf very easily.

Just don't tell them you're a virgin. It's not like it's too hard to stick your dick in something other than your improvised fleshlight.

>>35539979
>If i'd be female i could get laid/get bf very easily.
You be very surprised. Both genders suffer quite a bit if they are not pretty/lucky but in great amount of humor both genders think the other has it so much easier.

>>35540016
>Just don't tell them you're a virgin
If you're not cyborg then girls will know that you're very inexperienced with them. The dead giveaway is avoidance of physical contact.

>>35539979
What's stopping you from getting laid as a guy?

>>35537086
i would not be off put by that at all

go back to r eddit shitposter

>>35537218
then i guess im just one big red walking flag fag great

>>35536776
girls don't hate virgin guys.

girls don't like you. there's a difference.

>>35540020
>the other has it so much easier
If women think about Chad having it easier, then it might be true. However i'm talking more of an average guy and average girl and sadly (or not) girls have it easier in dating and sex scene. Besides girls can do absolutely nothing because guys are supposed to approach them.

>>35540022
I doubt you can get anywhere near sex without having touched her before. If she asks if you're a virgin just tell her you're nervous, it's whatever.

>>35540022
I just jump in the frying pan with that stuff and it work out well. She took my awkward inexperience of fondling kissing etc as just being "aggressive"

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>>35536776
if i wasn't in a hetero relationship i'd meet up with gay/bi virgin anons to suck them off and let them fuck my ass if they looked decent enough

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>>35539899
>A person claims girls have awful personality traits with no evidence and the majority here believes it without question yet one shares that isn't the case and it is demanded to have source and irrefutable facts.
it's the nature of r9k, most come here with their mindset made up and just want to be reaffirmed they are right, they actually have no interest in discussion or debates on any topic that would challenge or change their views.

>>35540031
Having zero experience, no confidence in myself, being afraid of girls and ugly in general. You could actually pick one of those and still be eternal virgin.

>>35540066
I doubt any of them would want that from you.

>>35540090
i'm pretty androgynous, i have too keep a beard just so people don't think i'm a teen or a woman

>>35540084
no I disagree and feel it would at least take two to stay forever alone. zero experience can be overcome with confidence, lack of both can be over come by not fearing girl and having looks/charm.

>>35540105
They still wouldn't want to be suck off by you.

>>35540107
>no I disagree and feel it would at least take two to stay forever alone
It still doesnt change the fact that's basically catch 22 - in order to get experience you need confidence and to get confidence you need experience.

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>>35540115
i'll murder you in cold blood

>>35537156
So, big guy, you only have enough balls to order a submissive woman around? What if he hates submissive women because they are usually very stupid from not having an opinion, and extremely slutty bc they will listen to any chad?

>>35536776
Women think it's a lot of responsibility, being a guys first time.

And modern women absolutely hate responsibility. They want power, authority, choice, influence, etc. but they don't want to feel obligated to do anything.

>>35537218
>failure to develop properly
I'm a pretty clever guy, why does this society want only brawn. I'm certainly not teaching chads how to do what I do, if they outbreed me they'll be technologically stuck for a hell of a long time

Oh well, whatever, fat chad cock is always more important than that. Lol

>>35536776
>caring what girls think.
Just wait till your mid thirties then buy a 9 year old like god intended

>>35540044
One of us!
Hlffojf

>>35540170
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt6BI1-VyX8

yehaa boiiii

>>35539793
I agree, although that means there's a random chance regardless.

>>35540310
>there's a random chance regardless
yeah, there are uglier and more autistic guys who got laid by pure chance.

>>35536776
i like virgins because they don't have STDs and they appreciate you more.

>>35540383
>i like virgins because they buy me stuff and orbit around me
fixed.

>>35540119
>in order to get experience you need confidence
not true for everyone but I understand what you are saying.

>>35540509
>not true for everyone
yeah, if you're attractive fellow then girls will literally approach you.

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>>35537728
>spin it into being a misunderstood artist or a passionate musician

I have been rejected and abused by my peers my entire life so I just played music almost constantly every day for a long time

I have seen womens' view or behavior etc towards me change when they hear me sing or play etc. Even with that people like me are too autistic to ever feel get to feel what reciprocated love is like. Why bother communicating with people if a good amount of them will be off-put by the very way you act and move your body? who you are down to your core? I know I shouldn't feel this way and I know it might just be defense mechanisms, but I know for a fact that people are shitty animals because I feel the shitty animal things too.

Mating isn't about love like you said it's about "what will my friends think?"... Maybe if i gave one of the girls a chance she wouldn't have been put off by me but oh well

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>>35536776
>>35536824

>tfw virgin
>tfw all I want to do is throatfuck some roastie whore

Why even live bros?

>>35536824

>they cringe as a guy cums too early from not getting desensitized too.

She/He hasn't heard of the death grip.

Kek

>>35540022
>the dead giveaway is avoidance of physical contact
This makes me SO FUCKING ANGRY
Why the FUCK do women care if I touch them while I talk to them?
I don't like being touched so I don't touch people either. I don't touch guys, I don't touch girls.

Why the fuck do they care?

Yes only one type of girs exists just like one type of virgin exists right guys?

Pathetic thread, both sides are fucking stupid.

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>>35536776

Women like Chad and nothing else. Chad can be a friendless virgin NEET curmudgeon and get women to love him. All that matters is how you look. So stop worrying about this shit, if you aren't Chad, then just give up on women. They're never going to be happy with you or find you attractive, at best they'll settle for you because that's the best they can get at the time. They will always want better men then you, just accept that and deal with it. You are garbage to them and they'd prefer if you didn't exist.

>>35542961
This is the final redpill, anons.
Your appearance is literally all that matters.

>>35541859
>I don't like being touched so I don't touch people either. I don't touch guys, I don't touch girls.
Just because you dont like physical contact, doesnt mean that girls dont like it.

>>35543213
Sure but why is it automatically associated with a lack of sexual experience? What if I just don't like touching people?
Also it feels out of place for someone as clumsy as myself to just initiate physical contact.

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>Virgin guy
Low quality genetics

No other woman has risked her precious eggs with him

Gross
>Virgin girl

Clean

Statistically the most loyal

Almost guaranteed paternity if you fuck her

>>35543232
>Also it feels out of place for someone as clumsy as myself to just initiate physical contact
It screams low confidence as you're afraid such a simple thing as physical contact.

>>35543291
When someone touches me without warning (unless it's a tap on the shoulder or some shit, I'm not that autistic) it feels uncalled for and impolite
Are you telling me I should go around putting my arm around girls and whatnot when even patting someone on the back is something I'd never do

>>35543321
>Are you telling me I should go around putting my arm around girls and whatnot when even patting someone on the back is something I'd never do
Dont think it as a black or white thing. Just give more physical contact as hugging, random touching and etc. No one says to touch her inner tights (unless you're getting intimate with her).

>>35536911
Honestly, this all makes sense. Women have always talked to me and then ended up rejecting me after they found out I was a virgin.

>>35537741
I don't want any of that garbage, just a woman to have sex with. I'm going to look into older women now, younger people are fucking stupid and I feel enraged enough to actually start assaulting random people on the streets.

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The things I would do to her.

>>35543321
Duh, you stupid fuck.

If you're asexual towards women they will see you as asexual. Touching girls in a friendly manner gets them used to the idea of you touching them sexually. By touching a woman you've already crossed a social boundary, and that's sexy. Touch releases endorphins between two companions. Of course at this point I assume you've established a comfortable "no big deal" atmosphere with the girl.

>>35543363
>I'm going to look into older women now
>being some hag boy-toy
That's even worse than being virgin.

>>35540525
or smart, or charming. I think you guys just focus on looks because for most of you that's all you care about.

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>>35543363
>resorting to hags

I respect virgins more than guys who've admitted defeat and accepted their fate as cleanup crew

>>35543337
Yeah that's too vague for me, I guess I might actually be autistic.
I need a guide because I don't know when it's appropriate or not to do shit like that

>>35539839
Yes they do, you fucking lying cuck.Women absolutely detest virgin men

>>35543291
to be fair the flip can scream creepy. We had our share of "that guy" in our bar that would come in a group, and give surprise shoulder rubs s or just throw his arm around girls that knew he but clear didn't understand how much a turn off he was.

>>35543438
>approach because you're smart
we wouldnt have that much virgins. girls literally dont care about you being smart unless you bring looks, social status or money into equation

>>35543566
Yeah I don't want to be that guy so I don't take risks

>>35543547
In fairness how many do you know in person? I'm 34 and I only know 1 person from college who likely still has his vcard and we neither talk nor spend all that much time together because he's near unreadable to the group.

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>>35543554
>physical contact
basically when she's flirting.

>>35543547
I'd rather fuck a hag then nothing at all.

>>35543601
Fucking hell a girl's never done any of that in my presence

>>35543581
> girls literally dont care about you being smart unless you bring looks, social status or money into equation
and if you had real intelligence you could bring that shit to the table. I get tired of retards thinking they have intelligence when the reality is they would have done more with their life if they actually were smart. I argue most virgins are fucking dumb with only a small few that have good intelligence but they ain't going to be posting on r9k asking for help or crying about an unfair world. They likely still did something great with themselves.

>>35543590
>Yeah I don't want to be that guy so I don't take risks
So you'll gain absolutely no progress.

>>35543665
I'm not handsome and I can't read social cues so it's probably better to play it safe though
Being labeled a creep is annoying

>>35543643
>real intelligence
you could say being Chad.

>>35543686
shows how dumb you are, you make a generalized boogie man for all your short comings.

>>35543590
You don't touch girls you don't know

You touch acquaintances who have already displayed interest

>>35543710
You're just wasting your time normie. Begone.

>>35543581
Knowing how to cook tendies in an over doesn't make you smart anon.

>>35543723
>uses another strawman

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>>35543722
>who have already displayed interest
yeah and people here can pick up on that right?

>>35543742
>still wastes his time
Didnt you said that we're dumb ones? Why would one spend his time with dumb people on purpose? Are you masochistic?

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>>35543785
>Why would one spend his time with dumb people on purpose?
Because when you are paid to wait for stuff to break it's rather fun to post here on the down time. Are you saying you take everything here seriously? Shit man and here you thought you had intelligence.

>>35543841
>Are you saying you take everything here seriously?
With the grain of salt. Next thing you're going to assume that they are no virgins here.

>>35543865
More like a whole canister of salt the way I got your attention.

>>35536776
>Why do girls hate virgin guys so much?

This is actually a meme.

Girls do not hate virgin dudes.

Girls actually hate the idea that someone could consider them more slutties than they actually are - and *this*, only *this*, sometimes happens to appear like "virgin hate".

Indeed, a virgin dude is not expected to produce Stellar Performances(TM) in Bed.

Clearly, the more dicks a whore has tasted, the more she is bored by sex and expects Something New(TM) And Kinky(TM).

>TLDR: virginity is not a problem, except for those who regret wasting it to random sex partners.

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>>35543643
>looks
>if you had real intelligence you could bring that shit to the table

>I get tired of retards thinking they have intelligence
You and me both

>>35536776
women are incapable of having thoughts or making decisions on their own. They rely on society and other people to make their choices for them.

>what computer should I buy?
the most popular! Apple!
>who should I be friends with?
the popular girls, of course! Even if I personally hate them!
>what clothes should I wear?
yoga pants and ugg boots, of course! Everyone else does!
>who should I vote for?
the candidate who will be nice to everyone! Or at least, will pretend to be nice to everyone!
>who should I date?
a man who's had a ton of girlfriends! It's like he's been pre-screened!

This is why when you ask a girl what they want to do, where they want to go for dinner, they say "I don't know." They want you to pick for them, because they can't decide for themselves.

>>35543415
>Touching girls in a friendly manner gets them used to the idea of you touching them sexually.
Thats creepy as fuck, moron.

Why do virgins try to give dating advice?

>>35543903
>Girls do not hate virgin dudes.
Yet ridicule guys as virgins is accepted thing while calling girl a whore is big no-no. If you're virgin in HS and college then it's somewhat acceptable but not in your mid-late 20's

>>35539899
>>35540078
>all this virgin cope
You're both retarded if you genuinely think that girls don't abhor virgin "men"

>>35543601
>First approach
>Girl saying hi
I never get this meme
Women never approach guys the same way guys are expected
Even on bumble they just say "hi"
Its just their way of saying "hello please carry the conversation from here, take all the social risks, and entertain me"

>>35544067
Yeah, how could girl (who lost her virginity in 13-16 ) not abhor virgin guy? It literally screams that not a single girl found him attractive enough to have sex, most of the basic things

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>I want to lose my virginity
Okay
>but no sluts, hags, uggos, fatties, crazy bitches or fags

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>>35538149
>Didn't use it incorrectly.
Yes you did, tard.

>Still have yet to address the obviously bigger picture
The bigger picture is that I'm arguing with a braindead incel who can't even use 5th grade vocab

>>35544000

age doesn't actually matter, except if you are a porn addict.

being virgin at 15, 45, 75, only means that you didn't want to waste your virginity to someone you don't really want.

>>35544067
Lost my vcard at 24 to an experienced girl. She had no issue with it. We dated over 2 years before we drifted.
You're retarded to care this much over it. If you really think women are like that why even try and dip your dick in them or argue the point? Unless you got that little doubt hanging in the back of your mind that just won't let go.

>>35543903
Jk Rowling, the great feminist and speaker for "equality" publicly shamed a guy on Twitter for being a make virgin and it was shared around toasties groups like wildfire

Women hate virgins more than anything else, it's the number 1 insult they go to

>>35544118
>oh and I'm 26
That said check out some sites where it's mid twenty or older female sites suffering this. Holy shit they make r9k seem loving in comparison to how much they hate men.

>>35536776
Because women only care about sex. If you have no sex xp you are worthless

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>>35544150
>Lost my vcard
Hmmm....
>at 24
HMMMMMMMMM

>>35544142
>only means that you didn't want to waste your virginity to someone you don't really want
that's only what me or you could think. unless you're really religious it comes as that no girl found you compatible with to have sex.

>>35544152
>Women hate virgins more than anything else, it's the number 1 insult they go to

Women only hate being recognized as High Cock Mileage sluts.

>>35544200

noone said that it's easy to find a "compatible girl".

>>35544152
She just used it as a generic insult, since it probably was a /r9k/ manchild. Just like "cuck" is used everywhere here.

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>>35536776
If you're a virgin and tell the truth just before sex you're a retard and should go back r9k

Just lie and pretend to know that you can lay pipe like a pornstar... After 5 seconds of disappointment she will realize you're just like every other pathetic virgin she's fucked in her life and give you a 2nd date.

>>35544242
This. I lost my virginity by faking it until I made it.

>>35544229
>noone said that it's easy to find a "compatible girl"
it doesnt matter to girls. if you're virgin then you're going to be ridiculed as soon as they'll know.

>>35544150
>If you really think women are like that why even try and dip your dick in them
Because I'm not a virgin loser, retard

>>35544150
>If you really think women are like that why even try and dip your dick in them or argue the point?
Because there are virgin girls who wont judge you by your lack of experience. If you're getting with used up one, you'll be immediately compared with the rest.

>>35544239
>"She just used it as a generic insult"

>being so dumb you don't realize this completely proves his point

>>35544483
>Because there are virgin girls
lmao
No unless you're a pedo, virgin

>>35544242
>Just lie and pretend to know that you can lay pipe like a pornstar... After 5 seconds of disappointment she will realize you're just like every other pathetic virgin she's fucked in her life and give you a 2nd date.
That shit doesn't make any fucking sense. Why would a (((woman))) these days give you another chance after you came in 5 seconds?

>>35544539
>unironically using "virgin" as an insult on r9k
WEW LAD

>>35544931
>insult
Just an observation, virgin

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>>35544483
>Because there are virgin girls who wont judge you by your lack of experience.
Where are they? Having tea time with Nessie and Jimmy Hoffa?

>>35537086
>you're going to be off put by them righjt?
No. I will introduce him and make sure he develops good taste. Because men aren't women.

>>35537848
You sit down and wait for your wizard powers to come and develop them until you can summon a succubus to take the pain away.

>>35539589
I'm a virgin that can interact with woman just fine, but the issue is that I do that by realizing they would never have sex with me so I take getting in their pants out of the equation and treat them like very sensitive sensitive men.

Socially speaking it works.

>>35536911
>The good part of this whole thing though is that you can literally lie to women about your partner count if they don't know you well enough.

ALWAYS DO THIS. as a kv when i had a job i always lied about how many girls i dated if the topic came around. i lied about everything i possibly could, actually, and i hate lying. NEVER tell a girl you're a kv, itll just make it super awkward and more difficult for you. just say a small number, like under 5 and you'll be fine, no need to shoot yourself in the foot here

>>35536924
>I hate submissive women.
man how is that even possible? im a 26 kv neet and my DREAM is to have a girl i can slap around and love and dominate and order around and boss around and have that kind of relationship with

god you people are such fagots. like i dont care how many girls you've been with, guys who like dominant women are FAGOTS

During my first time she seemed disappointed when I told her I'm a virgin. Not exactly with those words, but I responded her with a "nope" when she asked if I ever was with a girl before. And that's why I think >>35536911 is wrong in some point:

>The good part of this whole thing though is that you can literally lie to women about your partner count if they don't know you well enough.

I couldn't even cum, and she told me "you might be nervous", in which I responded "probably". I didn't have dinner that night - it could have contributed to the night's failure. At least I gave her the D.

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>>35540917
wtf its just a black guy screaming in my ear

>>35544720
>he can't fap a second wind half a minute after
Geez I love my stamina. And hearing from the stuff about vaginas, hands have better friction than vaginas which translates to longer duration as long as she's not more intriguing than what you go through while masturbating.

>>35546267
>wtf its just a black guy screaming in my ear

Now I understand why /mu/ likes it. They want him to be the bull.

>>35536776
What are you talking about? I am a woman and honestly I wouldn't mind sleeping with a virgin.

I never told my ex I was a virgin though. I get that you fear this kind of stuff. I didn't want him to know that in 23 years no one ever wanted me. I guess you feel the same. Because I never told him, I never knew if he would care or not.

But let's not forget that normies made that 18 year old virgin movie. You know where the dude refuses to fuck the chick until she has fucked someone else so the entire movie is about an 18 year old girl trying to lose her vicinity so Chad will sleep with her.

I'm rambling but what I'm saying is, society is judgmental about your virgin status regardless of sex. You'll get normies that really care about it but you get some people that wouldn't care ( I wouldn't care about a virgin guy and almost all guys on this board want a virgin girl)

Inb4 reeee roasty get aids and shit yourself to death.

>>35545936
t. Beta cuck who can't handle a real woman

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>>35545936

>he doesn't want a STRONK woman to mix his own STRONK genetics with to make STRONK babies

Jesus, Sparta ain't gonna rebuild itself, fag.

>>35545936
am faggot can confirm
been on the sub side of things before, nothing gayer than that. If a girl was doing that to me I'd still feel pretty fucking gay

>>35545936
>It has to be either one of the extremes.

Why?

>amount of time energy and effort poured into these posts for ultimately nothing
Fags

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I'm telling every girl I'm a virgin, it seems like the perfect way to keep girls I don't need to be with away, anyone who would reject you over something like that must not like you that much to begin with.

>>35548918
>I'm telling every girl I'm a virgin, it seems like the perfect way to keep girls I don't need to be with away
I going to try this. It's better to be rejected at first than expect something.

>>35548948

Yeah, I may be a virgin but I know I'm not a monster, if they can't see that then fuck em.

>>35549228
You're a monster in their eyes as they cannot imagine what kind of person would be sexless in modern times.

>>35537086
Why the fuck do you type like that? I hope it's on purpose for (you)'s.

I think you're mistaking hate for pity. Almost No one wants to fuck someone they pity. Those that do, you will find, will never really respect you. The main reason a kv would admit to being kv, is to give warning, that you don't know what you're doing. So there goes any confidence she had that it was going to be a good time. Best to let them know after, if at all. That way they won't think, oh nobody ever wanted him or his game is weak, because it worked on me. It proves it was out of choice and not happenstance.

Also I've seen fucking like a porn star itt way to much. Nothing says bad lay/inexperienced more than copying what you see in porn. Porn stars fuck for the camera, not to please each other.

>>35549255

Obviously, but if the attraction was that fragile then it wouldn't have worked out anyway.