Former long-time robot, now normalfag here. It's possible

>>35493172
Same here. Changing. Like a male version of 7 from Voyager.

>>35493172
How do I make friends? I have no clue where to go or how to approach people. When people do try to talk to me I sperg up or get anxious and shut down.

>>35493210
I don't get the reference, but good on you.

A little about me
>23yo
>was on /r9k/ during first inauguration and a bit into the second
>life took the wheel
>currently standing under a roof in a mountainside hotel in southern Japan, one of the first destinations on my world journey

Living out of a backpack. Have dated 4 nationalities. Gotten laid over 300 times. Full of confidence.

>>35493172
u got any girl advice if im not that ugly but cant really be bothered talking to girls
i think i /wank too much/ but meh

>>35493241
Find a local group for one of your hobbies and start there. The geekier the better, since the people there will be just as awkward as you.

Then just talk and take mental notes on what works and what doesn't work. A big realisation is that you can say all kinds of obscure shit to people with no consequences other than that they may avoid you. Practice, practice, practice. You'll reach a point where you stop saying awkward shit and people start listening to you and become interested in your personality.

I say this with the prejudice that many robots don't have social filters.

>>35493246
What do you want? You say you're not interested in talking to girls, but what do you want from them? Casual sex? A long term relationship?

Why am i alone?
Why am i stuck?
Why no girls try to realize i have feelings for them?
Why is society such hypocris?

>>35493291
wow deep
i have no idea what i want but i like girls
every chance at casual sex ive thrown away (on purpose), and no girls seem up to my standard to date (except one which i asked out and got rejected by)

>>35493172

What was your lowest point?

How did you 'get out'?

>>35493298
>Why am i alone?
Because you don't socialise.
>Why am i stuck?
Because you're in a comfort zone and taking the first step out of it requires a certain confindence that you may not have actualize yet.
>Why no girls try to realize i have feelings for them?
Because you don't tell them. They're not mind readers.
>Why is society such hypocris?
It's always been that way. Best way to counter it is to be the best type of person you can think of.

>>35493172
If you where a robot in the past then answer me this. Why is contentment hated? I explain I've got no problems with my robot, perma-virgin gaming and escapism life even now at 28 and people still ree like I'm come facebook chugging norman.

why is depression and self hate glorified? am I being too aggressive? surely the "point" of this pointless ride called life is to get comfy and endure, not have the most sad points?

I'm >>35492281. How could i unJUSt myself. I don't care about relationships, i just want to become a good student and eventually a good doctor. I want to love this shitty career.

>>35493172
how come I'm not getting any matches with roasties on tinder? is it because I only have one pic of me
I'm definitely not ugly, not chad-tier either but I'm mostly average, someone who could have at least gotten one match by now

>>35493279
This man is right, you only have to socialize from this point, slowly you will get more normie with the time.

I have asperger, so I always had problems with this point, so I got to know with some pseudo-normies and improved social relations. Now I even have had few gfs.

P.S. Try not lo look like a robot, take a shower at least, don't mind if you wear something manga related but just don't brag about it.

>>35493306
Seems like you doubt your own worth.

It's not up to you to evaluate yourself, that's the job of your peers.

So think deep and hard about what you want from women, then be the kind of guy you'd want those women to like, and be goddamned confident in it.

Your personality doesn't matter. What matters is your confidence in your personality. That's why weird as hell people can still get laid if they're 100% true to themselves.

>>35493323
When I got kicked out on the street by my parents at age 18, addicted to drugs and severely underweight.

Got a second chance by my parents and grabbed a hold of it. What's kept me rising is the little voice of confidence in me that I make incredibly loud. It's the one that says " FUCK the haters and all the opposition, you know what's right for YOU so go pursue it".

Let it take hold and it'll take you everywhere you want to go.

>>35493348
If you still have doubt in yourself, then you're not content. If society is telling you your contentness is wrong, then stop listening.

If you're happy, then you're happy. End of discussion.

>>35493353
Why are you not enjoying it?

>>35493364
Perhaps your profile text? I've never used tinder. I find talking to girls IRL to be much easier.

>>35493364
>Only one pic

Honestly, yes. On Tinder you need to be pretty fucking impressive or really lower your standards. Women only really match with guys who look high-value, so you better go outside with your friends to prove your're not some creeper loner, Anon. You... you do have at least 5 male friends you regularly party with, don't you?

>>35493404
wow after this im convinced youre jesus
you knew my problem exactly; that i think im fairly worthless, and i didnt think i even alluded to it
hats off to you
but i just feel like i dont have anything a girl would like (even though girls have told me they like me before ???????????????)
am i ((((retarded)))))

>>35493399
>Try not lo look like a robot, take a shower at least

This. Clothing is all a masquerade. With it you can make yourself into any person you want.

Also, I have mild autism. Learning to socialise took me years. But now I'm here.

>>35493364
Put lower standards to yourself or improve your profile.

In my country getting matches on Tinder is even harder than in the States, even with a good profile, you may be not getting any matches.

>>35493411
what do you think?
if I have to prove I'm not a loner (even though I am), then tinder seems like a terrible place to try and become a normie
it's starting to feel like I'm trying to get a job with absolutely zero work experience

>>35493437
I just spam the like button on every girl, that's what a friend told me to do but I haven't had much luck

>little faggot with no social skills
>cant even into basic conversation of the thread
>starts rambling to himself outloud his personal life story like anyone fucking asked for it
i've seen people like you in real life, its just fucking depressing

>>35493426
>but i just feel like i dont have anything a girl would like
Of course you do. Girls aren't the same. I dated one that thought my focused gaming face was the sexiest thing and would blow me under the table while I grinded in WoW.

Take the thing you enjoy the most and become wicked good at it. Be confident in your skill, and don't be afraid to show it. Girls like confidence more than anything.

And I'm not Jesus. I just have life experience.

>>35493454
Then ignore me, Mr. Salt. I know where I am in life, and I'm only here to help.

>>35493404

>Why are you not enjoying it?

I'm a dumbass and everyone knows it. If i was good at it, i probably would like it. And to be good at it, i need to study. But i always procrastinate studying for one reason or another (fear of failing despite of trying hard, lazyness).

So, the question is, how can i stop procrastinating?.

>>35493172
>failed normie become normie
you never were robot in the first place.

>>35493458
True, confidence is really precious to women. They're highly unstable when it comes to emotions, so you have to be someone who doesn't crumble almost at all. When you have a long term relationship with someone who you trust can change this a little, but don't show yourself weak too much.

>>35493244
Good back at you. Just a shame I've waited until in 30s to stop robotic.
Everyone else: practice Buddhism.

>>35493484
Willpower. Force yourself to do it. Set up a reward system if needed.

It's called biting the bullet. Doing sour work that's necessary is an important skill, but it's learned through blood and sweat.

Sorry, but there's no easy answer to that. Godspeed.

>>35493500
>you have to be someone who doesn't crumble almost at all
Not true. It's okay to show emotions. You just have to be able to deal with them and any rough patches in a relationship.

Confindence is also being confident in your own despair.

>>35493516
I keep being surprised at how close Buddhism is to good-natured nihilism.

>>35493494
I'd never be able to prove it, but believe me when I tell you I was.

That you claim robot-ism is hereditary is just a bullshit excuse for not getting a grip on yourself.

>>35493458
all im good at is school. im really smart, sociable, funny, but no 'skills'
what would YOU do in my position?

>>35493551
>robot-ism is hereditary
It's not hereditary. If you're robot, you cant change as you dont have genetic disposition to be someone else.

>>35493575
Take up a martial art.

That's what I did. Goju Ryu karate. It's also what brought me to Japan.

And stop doubting yourself. You say you're all these things, but do you actually act on it?

>>35493551
Buddhism makes you say yes to almost anything. Definitely pushes you out of comfort zone positively.
Not done any research on Nihilism. What is it?

>>35493324
I did try to socialize but still felt lonely
I did tell them but they denied my feelings im not ugly but im just a bit clingy and caring
Im tired of dealing with people

>>35493578
That's literally what hereditary means.

And it's bullshit. Humans are incredibly adaptable, that's what have made us the dominant species on this planet.

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>>35493616
See pic. It's satirical, but gets the point across.

>>35493617
Keep socialising. Nothing comes easy. Push yourself until dealing with people doesn't tire you out.

>>35493622
If you dont have genetic willpower then it's pretty much pointless as you simply wont have enough willpower to make it through. Think about all those addicts, smokers and fat people who tried to get rid of their habits but couldnt do that. I'm not saying that everyone is weak willed but you have strong willpower and because of that you've made it.

>>35493649
Willpower is not genetic, it's learned.

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>>35493244
Tell me how you did it, I will have 5k at the end of the month saved up after my car being a shit

>>35493649
There is no such thing as genetic willpower. You have inherently unlimited willpower. It's all about just doing it, which in turn comes from how angry you are about your current situation. Or that's where it came from for me.

>>35493404
society's not. Other people barely exist, they'r worthless to me unless rendering a service and even then they're just npc's I deal with. It's the tribalism here, on /r9k/ that gives me problems.

I get hit with the no true Scotsman fallacy a lot, or rostie accusations because I generally don't concern myself with women or feels. I'm not lonely or depressed and make very little effort to hide that her, where I should belong

>>35493672
>saved up 10k
>applied for Working Holiday visa
>left

It's that simple.

I'm staying through WWOOF because I can stretch my budget then.

>>35493680
Sounds a lot like depersonalization. Have you done any drugs by chance?

In any case, you need to sort yourself out. Read in to religious texts (for the philosophy, not the indoctrination, start with Buddhism) or go to a therapist if you have the money for it.

>>35493681
That's an idea, thanks anon. I am biting the bullet and running to my dream of being a meteorologist but going to Oklahoma for school. I'm scared shitless on school and new state. I just left a toxic relationship on my own will to do this. I wish I had someone to help. Dad died early on so no one to teach me what the fuck to do. Just my mom and my grandma. Grandma raised me more so I never had a real grasp on what to do. Hell I never had a girlfriend till senior year because I didn't know what to do.

>>35493748
Just do interesting shit. The negative consequences are almost always null or minimal.

>>35493675
>You have inherently unlimited willpower
If that would be true, we wouldnt need psychology or therapy as you could smash your disorders by unwilling them.

>>35493680
Haha! Are you Scottish too? Or was that just a word play?

>>35493768
Why can't I have a friend like you, fuck

>>35493773
In most cases you can. People just need therapists to realize it. Me too. Spent a good load of money on top-tier psychologists to not want to kill myself any more.

Of course, things like schizophrenia are legit brain glitches.

>>35493797
Come join me in Japan. Throw me a Twitter PM @DivertedReality. We can backpack through the countryside in the humid summer heat and drink ourselves stupid in cheap sake while stargazing near a bonfire.

>>35493800
>Spent a good load of money on top-tier psychologists to not want to kill myself any more
What did they tell you? Brainwashed?

>>35493823
Nothing, really. Just made me ask myself the right questions about life instead of only looking at the negative aspects.

Kind of what I'm trying to do here with you guys.

>>35493836
>Just made me ask myself the right questions
What were those questions?

There's this girl. And we've been flirting last year, but then i haven't seen her in like 6-7 months.
A few months ago, she sought me out on facebook. We've gone out once, in january. We message each other every other day or so.
I just don't have the balls. I can't afford rejection right now.

>>35493848
Eh, a bit complicated. Something along the lines of "If life is inherently meaningless, and killing yourself is to skip to the peaceful ending, why not do all the stuff you've dreamt of doing before you do so? If you want to skip to the ending anyway, then you have nothing to lose."

>>35493819
Anon you have no idea how tempting this shit is

>>35493869
>I can't afford rejection right now.
"It's better to shit your pants than die of constipation."
- wiser men than me

Go forth and ask her.

>>35493874
>If life is inherently meaningless, and killing yourself is to skip to the peaceful ending, why not do all the stuff you've dreamt of doing before you do so?
I wish i'd have dreams because i have nothing that i'd want to do.

>>35493884
Then just do it m8.

I already have all the camping gear, and speak basic Japanese. I'd love to have a travel partner.

>>35493172
>It's possible to break the downwards spiral.
Don't people like you understand that "robothood" isn't something that can be activated or deactivated? That's the different between a Robot and a Failed Normie... a robot is -WIRED- to be different, and no amount of indoctrination or knowledge will change the way a Robot sees and reacts towards the world.

Both Robots and Failed Normies can be losers, but all losers aren't Robots. A Robot cannot and will not ever stop being one, and people like you hijacking the term to feel better about your failures only hurt others in the long run.

If all you lot of normals keep pushing the idea that a Robot's issues can be fixed (instead of helping them work around those issues to try to be happy) then it shows how much normaldry is stuck in your heads: You don't care about helping others, all you care about is virtue signalling and pushing your own world view to feel better about yourself.

TL;DR: Normals, please get the hell out.

>>35493891
Even shit like masturbation furiously under the Eiffel tower is legit in this scenario.

Literally anything is legit.

>>35493902
Well you got the speaking down and I got the balls to do it. I'll hit you up after I get up, I got work tom

>>35493918
>Literally anything is legit.
And i literally have nothing. I'm not joking. essentially everything is meaningless and i'm just floating on the surface.

>>35493929
Sweet. Looking forward to your message. I can help with the visa application, too.

>>35493931
see
>>35493712

>>35493172
How do you get money online? I have unlimited time so I could theoretically do anything, but I'm not in the US so work from home websites don't work.

>>35493959
Not my specialty, but bying and selling shit on Ebay seems to be profitable for some.

If you have a crafts skill, you can also make and sell stuff on Etsy.

>>35493953
>go to a therapist if you have the money for it.
I'm going but so far no changes.

>>35493886
True. I'd just prefer it to be in person. And i'm not sure how to go about it.
While talking, ask her something along the lines of "So, about us?", "Do you want us to be more than friends?" or something, fuck, i'm shit at that.
I mean, she probably has some feelings for me, she's the one that renewed the conversation initially.

>>35493984
Psychologist or psychiatrist? There's a big difference.

And I'm not kidding with the Buddhism thing. And if you do drugs, stop. It messes up your dopamine levels.

If all else fails, travel.

>>35493953
Oh I will, it's been my dream to just fuck off traveling in Japan but having someone to do it with? Fuck I'm in. And that jap potential if ya catch my drift ;)

25 KV. How do you train for kissing and sex?

I'm trying to cut porn and fapping because of fear of ED, yet I don't know how to practice for kissing and basic intimacy stuff.

>>35494003
>Psychologist or psychiatrist?
psychiatrist aka no druggie one.

>>35493996
Both of those examples are good. And you're absolutely right, she probably has feelings for you. She's just waiting for you to make the first move.

>>35493996
>While talking, ask her something along the lines of "So, about us?", "Do you want us to be more than friends?" or something, fuck, i'm shit at that.
Why wont you start spending more time with her irl? She will take a hint.

>>35494009
Dude you have no fucking idea. The pussy game here is absolutely insane.

Enjoy your work!

>>35494011
>How do you train for kissing and sex?
You don't. You just do it. The parts beforehand, meeting a girl and convincing her to rub genitals with you, are the hard parts.

>>35494021
Get a clinical psychologist instead. Trust me on this one.

Also, physical activity is a good way to raise dopamine levels. Even a short jog every second day can do the trick.

>>35494056
>Get a clinical psychologist instead. Trust me on this one.
I think that's the one i've got.
>physical activity
that seems pretty pointless as oppose to getting the root mind problems and weeding it out.

>>35494078
>I think
Be certain.

And it's not moot to move yourself. It really does boost your mood to be physically active. Mood boosts often bring along creativity and new thought patterns that can spark new dreams.

>>35494056
Well I'll try lol, working 12's to get extra cash is one ass pain. But for Japan delight and a few hard offs to explore? Worth it. Hell as a old commercial on grand theft auto once said. Japan? Thailand? I don't give a shit. I'd be tearing up ass globally lol

Let me guess, howto get a gf and a job.

*yawn*

You seem like a cool guy OP.
Since you said you met a lot of girls IRL rather than through other means, care to give me some tips on that?
I don't drop spaghetti, but sometimes I drew a blank on what to talk about and whatnot

>>35494102
I worked 12 hours shifts pretty much every day for half a year to save up for my trip.

I did a stint of 63 days of continuous work.

Totally fucking worth it.

Also, I don't know how long you plan on being away, but 5 grand is more than enough for living lavishly on the road for the summer season.

>>35494131
As long as I can, I need the time to mend wounds of my ex and this would help. I get 15 an hour right now and 5k would be from a month (income tax and 401k too)

>>35494129
Just say what you feel.

Is the girl pretty? Tell her. Does she look magical in the shade of the street lights? Tell her. Does her smile turn your stomach into mush? Tell her.

Any positive emotion is legit when it comes to talking to girls. Of course proper escalation is needed. Start slow until you get her attention, then get verbose.

>>35494151
Well my Working Holiday visa is for one year. I'm not sure what Americans can get. Contact the Japanese embassy and be honest about what you want to do, they're more than willing to help you out with specific visas.

And travel is always good to mend all kinds of wounds.

can someone screencap this thread?

>standing in the rain
>deep forest around me
>rural mountainous Japan
>listening to this: https://youtube.com/watch?v=6QvMcQ2Eejo

bretty gud

Just sharing my current feel.

>>35494178
I just wish I could learn Japanese. I want a work visa to keep me the fuck out of here. Everything here is too bad for me. It would be healthier for me to be away

>>35493712
Not that anon but do you have experience with depersonalisation? I got it from tripping on LSD, which was stupidly me trying to cure my lifelong depression with drugs. Now i have no emotions or interests or anything at all and all the symptoms of depersonalisation, completely detached since last august. How do you cure this?

>>35494271
You'll learn more by coming here than you ever would back home.

And don't be disappointed if you can't get one year visa. Even a 3 month tourist visa is great. 3 months is a long fucking time to be away from home.

>>35494284
I made super potent cannabis extract and dropped the equivalent of 12 joints at once.

Queue 12 hours of cramps, insane panic, and absolute conviction that I was going to die.

Was depersonalized for months after. Only thing that got me out of it was the journey I'm currently on.

>>35494284
>How do you cure this?
therapy obv.

i don't want to be a normie

basically all the magic cures that people offer here won't work. no one really "creates" opportunity for himself, opportunity is given, especially in a world where you have to work for others in order to eat.
there is a reason why we are all here. we can't stand hearing normies talk or can't stand being next to certain people. and i can't blame anyone for that. our society is beyond fucked

>>35494320
>no one really "creates" opportunity for himself
I did. I just got out of my chair and started doing interesting things.

>>35493172
First replier here. Be interested in keeping in touch. I'm going to India and then pilgrimage to Nepal within a year and was thinking of Japan before heading back to UK.

>>35494307
What are the first steps to going on the "journey" to a change in lifestyle and outlook and motivation.

>>35494375
Buddhism anon. Look into it.

>>35494374
Throw me a PM on Twitter @DivertedReality. I'm going to either Canada or Australia after my year in Japan is over.

>>35494375
>save money, around 10k is a good amount
>pick a country
>apply for visa
>make apply general plan for what to do there (I recommend WWOOF as you go to live among the locals)
>leave

It's rather simple, really.

>>35494391
Also this.

Buddhism at its core is not a religion. It became that when Buddha died and idiots started interpreting his wisdom.

>>35493348
Because self hate leads to self improvement and depression leads to introspection

>>35493364
Update your profile, make a witty description, use copypasta if necessary (I had a quote from Rick and Morty when I used Tinder), add more pictures (4 is fine, 6 seems too much) have one of your face, one of full body or at least torso, one in a social environment and one of some kind of hobby (mix and match of course), link it to your instagram and spotify if you have them.

Also and most important: swipe right everytime. talk to girls even if you find them gross just for practice, try and get to the point where they agree to meet in person (then delete them if you don't really like them). Best way to not screw up if or when you match with an actual qt.

Also (and this might seem silly but it's cool for practice) get bluestacks or another location app and set it to a small town, possibly in a different country (foreigners tend to get more likes in my experience) and say you'll be visitng soon to see some friends or family. Just get some roastie mileage and boost your confidence for an actual match.

It's late here, and I've got to go up early tomorrow. Thanks for keeping good thread manners.

If anyone have any further questions, you have my twitter handle.

Take care of yourselves, and be happy.

>>35494449
>self hate leads to self improvement
No it doesnt.

>>35494400
You got that wrong way round but no probs.
Don't do social media but email me if you want.
[email protected]

>>35493982
Can I get away with not paying taxes? First of all my communist government uses it to build actual castles and stadiums for the prime minister and his people, and also idk how to do them.
Also how do I market myself on etsy so people actually see my stuff?

>>35494483
Thanks for the advice bro ;_; i might hit you up on Twitter if you don't mind.