'intelligent' people don't exist there is only

I agree with you

But there IS a difference in starting intelligence. Mostly due to parental education (or lack of)

>>35273807
That only has a slight influence.
I think a greater thing to be passed on is desire to achieve self improvement.

Most of my successful peers were not taught much by their parents, but focused well in school environments. Unless you live in a literal shithole, most teachers are actually reasonable, particularly if you show willingness to learn.

>>35273875
School intelligence is completely different to real life intelligence tho

And school intelligence is also even more influenced by actual genes. If you can memorize shit and do as you're told you're golden for all of education

Real life intelligence is the one you can change.

>>35273943
I don't mean memorisation though.
A couple of students and myself saw the maths teacher after class and got her to explain stuff because it was interesting. I had a basic understanding of year twelve physics in primary school.

My 'smart but lazy' peers were instead using their time playing computer games and throwing sticks at each other.

>>35273781
False

Look at all the highly motivated, hard working idiots in this country. People with no adherence to reality, objectivity, or the scientific method.

>>35274017
Smart but lazy people had no interest in a system that couldn't aid their intelligence, or water the seeds of their mind, as effectively as others.

>>35273781
This is something morons say. Intelligence has zero correlation to success in a world run by dumbass sociopaths, where less than 1% of the population has a sapient thought cross their brains in a lifetime.

>>35273781
Intelligence is definitely a thing.

Some people will try all their lives and never gain notable creativity, spontaneity, or abstract thinking abilities. Or if they do, they will have done so by mimicking someone else, basically if they are very mentally agile in a field, they didn't get there through thinking but by learning and copying, they heard arguments about something and "built" their opinion from that, but then if something new comes up, they can't process it intelligently if they haven't seen someone genuinely smart process it first.

Also, some people have poor memories all their lives.

One thing though is potential, there is such a thing as not been smart as you could have been because of bad parenting and of course bad nutrition. Nutrition has the same impact on height, there are some adults out there who are smaller than they would have been if raised by a family with a healthier diet.

>>35273875

What do you consider a "literal shithole"? I feel pretty lucky being from the USA, and a nice family town in the midwest at that, and still most of the teachers were more focused on their divorces or their feuds or their own children or their diseases. Did you really have teachers you felt did a "good job"? What did that feel like?