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>be 20 >sitting in my bed resting after a busy day >start

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>be 20

>sitting in my bed resting after a busy day

>start thinking about why im still a virgin and can barely talk to girls

>meanwhile the floor above me I can hear the bed squeaking and rocking and a girl moaning from either masturbating like crazy or getting fucked by her bf

>this is the third day in a row ive listened to her fuck

>i still can barely even talk to girls and the other guys my age are having sexual relationships with them

just heard the climax. I think they're done now. Hope they had fun today. Her moans are arousing for me but overall just depressing because i know while they fuck i still struggle to even go through the basic steps of socializing, while sex with another person is tiers above me.
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>>35232598
Why not take a social skills class? Really helped me desu.
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holy shit I was wrong they were just taking a break, the ceiling is vibrating like crazy now I think they finished for real cuz theres lots of foot steps. I wish I could've watched them go at it. I still don't know what real sex will be like, obviously not like pornos...
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Takes me back to my college days when my neighbors in the dorm would always bring back chicks and you could hear the bed shaking through the paper thin walls.

I would just sit there thinking about how much of a loser I was. Nothing made me want to kill myself more than thinking about how there are 16 year old high school kids out there that have infinitely more rich and varied sex lives than I will have in my entire life.
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>>35232598
>>35232667
fuck do I know that feel. It hurts and it makes me angry, so angry at the world. Rogerian
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>>35232667

How... are they... still going... its round 3 or some shit by now... shes fucking screaming at this point in ecstasy

I'm angry and sad but also somewhat hopeful. It's not over for me, I can get better and find a girl that likes me enough to eventually have sex with me. Me and everyone in my situation just need to NOT go elliot rodgers mode, don't let it destroy you basically. its just virginity right?

I think maybe I should pay a girl to have sex with me to get the 1st time out of the way, maybe id feel better.
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>>35232765
I know these feels, OP
I took summer classes over the summer at my school
It wasnt right next door to me but I knew the general time that it would be occurring and would try to walk around casually in the hallway as it was happening without arousing suspiscion that I was eavesdropping.

There is something alluring about trying to be as close to sex as possible even if you're not in the same room. It can be such a foreign concept to me, sometimes
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Yeah at least people close to you aren't constantly reminding you that you are a Virgin loser who hasn't had a gf yet.
My dad and my mom are literally making fun of me everyday because I haven't even been on a single date.
It's fucking pathetic. Then I go to work and I see all these ugly idiots getting pussy left and right and posting the picture of how they spend their night. I don't even have the confidence to go to bars or clubs in order to meet someone. Tried online dating and no luck. I barely got matches and when I did no reply. I don't even understand why tinder doesn't work for me. I'm not really photogenic but I'm not ugly either. No one even gives me a chance to get rejected.
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>>35232643
Give this a shot OP. You might even meet another socially awkward qt there.
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>>35232598
The majority of people in their early 20s are still virgin (myself included), for the moment I would worry just about the social skills part
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>>35234372
>>35232765
>>35232667
>>35232598

Just stop giving a fuck? I was reading Schopenhauer before I was out of puberty, and I realized that this whole sex game people play serves to propagate the species and does not serve the individual human being in the pursuit of virtue or happiness at all.

Everyone in this thread needs to go read more philosophy, in particular Schopenhauer and Henry David Thoreau. Learn something about yourselves and get out of these stupid games we play for at least a little while.
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>>35234632
Yeah that's easier said than done mate. The problem is exactly having sex because a hooker can easily solve that. We want to feel loved by a girl and feel like we matter. Sex is only a bonus. Do you have any idea how it feels to have never introduced your girlfriend to your friends. Never have related to your friend's gf troubles. Never have received a gift from someone you love in a romantic way? Yes, I could study philosophy all day and realize how absurd all this really is but how long before all these feelings come back again?
Not feeling loved crushes a man.
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>>35234485
That's just not true and you know it
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>>35232598
>be me
>22
>been in uni for four years
>still a virgin
>had to watch as everyone around me got laid, formed relationships and experienced normal, fulfilling human life

Now I've moved out of residence and live in a bachelor apartment. I'm next door to roasties. I hear them giggling every friday night as they get ready to go clubbing. I hear them coming home, drunk and foolishly going "Shhhhh" as if a roastie can ever shut her mouth. I hear them bringing guys home. I've heard sex multiple times this year already.

It's so unfair. Why do I have to be a 22yo khhv? I feel like this isn't a life worth living. I think it would hurt less if I didn't have it waved in front of me daily.
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>>35234900
>gone to uni
>practically achieved uni
>lives independently
At least you have a chance.
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>>35234748
>I sometimes wonder that we can be so frivolous, I may almost say, as to attend to the gross but somewhat foreign form of servitude called Negro Slavery, there are so many keen and subtle masters that enslave both north and south. It is hard to have a southern overseer; it is worse to have a northern one; but worst of all when you are the slave-driver of yourself.

Henry D Thoreau
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>>35234765
I don't know about where you live, but here at least 40-50% of people more or less my age are virgin
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>>35235003
I don't think you understand. If you can't get laid in uni, especially your first year, it's hopeless. Uni is the easiest place in the world to get laid.

also

>english major

I have no chance.
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>>35234748

Of course it's impossible to "logic yourself" into feeling a particular way. It sounds good in theory, but that's just not how the brain works. But you can try to work to strengthen particular skills/characteristics, which may change your outlook in the long run. Meeting someone you care about who cares about you will come with time (if you're a halfway decent person) as you interact with more and more people. You just have to try and stop giving a shit in the mean time, realizing that it will come with time. You may not meet the supermodel of your dreams, but you'll meet someone you can have a mutually loving relationship, and sex, with.

>>35232598

So it all comes down to social skills, which are things you can ONLY develop by getting out and talking to people. You may feel uncomfortable and inept at first, maybe for a while. But if you just fucking go out and do it anyway, and try to stop giving a fuck how it goes, then eventually, it'll get easer, and even enjoyable. As long as you avoid it, it'll seem impossible. As long as you worry about the outcome, it'll seem impossible. But you can't get anywhere not trying, so just say fuck it and do it anyway. With very few exceptions, people who are good at socializing are good at socializing because they socialize more. They weren't good at first, they just didn't care. As long as you try to generally give a shit about the people you're talking to, and aren't an asshole, "awkwardness" don't fucking matter. No, not everyone will like you. That's fine, there's nothing you can do about it. But someone will like you, and who gives a shit about the rest?
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>>35235052
Well it's not that I find talking to hard to talk to people.
I find it hard to click or as they say common ground with people. If I talk about myself I can easily tell that the other person is losing interest. If I don't talk about myself, people assume I have nothing to talk about or don't have an interesting life.
It's just it's literally always me trying to initiate the conversation with the other person giving me one word replies.
I honestly dont see any faults in the way I talk but for some reason I'm just a wall to people. Nothing special and can't provide anything useful.
Pretty pathetic.
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>>35235201
> If I don't talk about myself, people assume I have nothing to talk about or don't have an interesting life.

I don't think this is usually the case. Maybe you just met some strange people, I couldn't say. But I've always found that people are way more into a conversation when I seem interested in them and what they want to talk about (whether I'm actually interested or not), and what I actually have to say doesn't matter much. People like it a lot when you ask questions about the things they're interested in, which is also how you get to know people on a deeper level. If they're following the same conversation/politeness "guidelines" as you, it should work like this: they'll ask you about yourself, you give some info, then relate it back to a question about them again, they give some info, then ask you another question, etc., etc. Everyone gets what they really want (to talk about themselves), while also potentially connecting to another person. Either person can initiate this way, and both people's roles in the conversation are essentially the same after that.
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>>35232643
Is this really a thing...?
Like is this offered at college or something
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>>35235039
>uni is the easiest place in the world to get laid
Sick of this meme to be honest with you man.
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