Who /pedofeelia/ here? >tfw the right hates me because they

>>35227997
raping children will never be socially acceptable, so what exactly is the point of you making this board ?

>>35228055
You can't just redefine everything you don't like as "rape" then act like it's all settled. If the child wants and enjoys it then it's not rape.

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>>35228107
There's a special ring in hell for you

>>35228161
There's nothing in the Bible that says pedophilia is a sin. The Virgin Mary was 12-years-old when she pregnant with Jesus. God is on my side.

>>35227997
we hate you too, originally speaking.

>>35228196
If violating an underaged person for your own pleasure isn't a sin in your God's eyes you are bowing to the wrong God.

>>35227997
I think you guys have it tough because, let's face it, pedophilia is fucked up. Wanting to fuck kids is completely fucked in the head, but at the same time, it's not like you choose to be like that. And then you can't even go for fictional media for some relief because even that's illegal in most countries. Can a pedo even go to a psychologist and not get ostracized there?

OP deserves death originally

>>35228280
I went to a psychologist for a little while, I think I confused them. I'm pretty sure they were expecting one of those "Oh woe is me I'm a monster but I don't want to hurt anyone" pedophiles but instead I was a "I'm an autistic loser and I'm wasting my life worrying about how much society wrongfully hates me also child porn laws are ridiculous" pedophile.

I don't think the woman who gave me my autism test believed I was a pedophile. She asked me about it before the test and I fumbled through my answer like you'd expect a shy autistic person talking about his private emotions which are literally as taboo as possible. When I went back to get my results she sort of awkwardly asked "So do you still feel like you're a pedophile?".

I'm law abiding and I'm too pathetic to seem threatening so I wasn't really worried they'd try to report me.

>>35227997
>trying to make pedophillia a relatable meme
kill yourself. i hate you too

>>35227997
Why not chemically castrate yourself so you don't have sexual urges anymore. Then you can live a somewhat normal life without the burden

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why do you keep starting these threads, people falsely accuse us of creeps, why do you have to drag your genuine creep ass in here

either fap to legal porn until this minor fetish goes away or just commit suicide, get a pure nitrogen tank and an airtight plastic bag

>>35228595
Why would I want to get rid of my happiest thoughts? I'm not going to Alan Turing myself just because society is crazy when it comes to children.

>>35228722
Society isn't crazy when it comes to not fucking kids. I know this is 4chan and all but cmon dude. Snip your nuts off

>>35228547
Are you the kind of pedophile who's only attracted to children, or are you also attracted to different age ranges. I personally think most people are attracted to ages 13-35, but pretend they aren't attracted to the younger ages.

Those arn't real leftists OP, they're sjws. Solidarity, comrade.

>>35227997
If you don't fuck kids or look at actual child porn, you shouldn't feel bad.

For example, it's possible to have a rape fetish but not go around and rape people.

>>35228855
Yeah it's all a social facade. Any 20 year old male would fuck a hot 14 year old given no consequences, and anyone denying it is putting on airs

>>35228873
Nah, I'm pretty sure it's only the SJW's who are ok with pedophilia, since they see it as just another sexuality.

>thinking that the laws surrounding fucking kids are "crazy"

Just kill yourself.

>>35228896
Are you OP, and if you are, would you be sexually attracted to a girl who looks 14, but is actually 20? I've seen a few girls like that at my college, and knowing that they would stay looking young makes them seem all the more desirable.

>>35228899
No, sjws are only okay with whatever they feel like. They are moralfags that refuse to listen to reason.
The leftists I'm talking about are materialists and invidiualists that let go of all attachments to ideology, they see through the spook of maturity and acknowledge children as just another example of conscious being.

>>35228855
I'm attracted to adults too but kids are way better. You know how beauty and sexiness aren't exactly the same thing but they're closely related? That's how I feel about cuteness and sexiness. I like cuteness a lot more than I like beauty. Also I don't really like boobs, except for the smallest ones.

I know a lot of people are in denial because they act like being attracted to 15-year-olds is disgusting, but I can clearly see that 15-year-olds are well past their prime.

>>35228196
pedophilia is lust, lust is a seven deadly sin, it's kind of common sense that you're making shit up so then you can go further into your confirmation bias

god hates your actions and your lustful nature. repent.

>>35228877
Nice numbers
I get off sometimes to the thought of raping someone but I keep it to myself and never will actually do it. This anon speaks truth

>>35229019
>god hates you if you disagree with him
Religion in a nutshell. I hope this is bait

>>35229006
I'm pretty much in agreement abound cuteness being better than sexiness, and petite body types being my preference. I guess I could be considered by some to be a pedophile, but I just avoid attraction for younger ages as best as I can, but I don't pretend the feelings don't exist.

>>35228899
SJWs are the ones who invented all the nonsense about consent and sex violence. They think I'm disgusting, and they think I'm a rapist waiting to happen.

The pedophile "acceptance" you've heard about is when self-hating pedophiles say shit like "If there was less stigma against us it would be easier to get help and fewer children would be abuse". By "get help", they mean doing all the horrible shit to us that was done to the gays 70 years ago. SJWs view pedophiles as problems, not as people.

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>>35229079
>god hates you
lmao i didnt even say that you retard.

>>35227997
I have a lot of sympathy for pedophiles, especially ones who never act in literally any way (such as actually molesting/raping children or looking at legitimate childporn). I wish that more people were accepting of this is a legitimate fetish in terms of allowing drawn images to be legal and accepted, and providing care sevices for people in your situation without being publicly chastised and shunned. I am really fucking sorry that you are sexually attracted to kids, but not if you choose to act on those urges.

>>35228944
No I'm not OP. 14 and 15 year old today often look ridiculously developed. C cups everywhere, hourglass figures and shit. It's the food hormones pretty sure.

>>35229079
So in a way religion is actually correct, mankind deserves nothing but hate

>>35229096
This. Sjws are spooky cunts. They are no different from religious nutcases.

>>35229096
Hmm, with SJWs it's hard to tell what they do or don't oppose and any moment since they seem to change all the time, so I could be wrong.

>>35227997
What's actually wrong with pedofeelia? Especially the child porn, some laws are really fucked and can land you in jail for looking at hentai or a 18+ model with a small breast.

>inb4 I am a law abiding citizen and the government should decide what I am allowed to look at

Even though pedophilia is wrong, I guess I understand a bit where you're coming from. Some people can't help their attraction to certain people, and are born that way, like gays.

Honestly, you'll probably never get to live a normal life. You should probably kill yourself. It'll be better for you and for society if you do so.

>>35228107
>if the child wants and enjoys
The thing is that children cannot have fully consensual sexual activities with adults because of the nature of the child-adult relationship. You have power over any child and are intimidating, this could coerce false consent. Besides, if we don't let children decide to pierce their own ears, drink alcohol, buy smokes, or get tattoos, even if they want or enjoy it, for their own good - certainly no one is letting children get raped by adults, even if they can be convinced to "consent."

Pedophilia is defined as sexual attraction to children who do not yet have functioning sex organs. As such, they physically cannot enjoy sex. I don't think there's something so wrong with pedophiles existing, because most can't help it, but if you view real child pornography or ever molest or rape a child I hope you are dismembered without anesthetic.

>>35229222
>real child pornography

>17-yo blowing her boyfriend counts as child pornography

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>>35228682
I'm a pedo and fuckin kek'd chekd and rekt my man

>>35228877
I don't feel guilty, that'd be silly. I feel bad because everyone is crazy and hates my guts.

The thing that makes me feel bad is that the nicest thing people say about me is comparing me to people with rape fantasies. I don't fantasize about anything bad, I fantasize about happy children.

Try to think back on your childhood and what you were really like. I was a very shy kid, so I never would have done anything with a pedophile. But I liked touching myself, and cuddling with my mom, and I remember really enjoying a dream where everyone in the world was naked. These weren't the same sexual feelings that I started feeling when I started puberty around age 12, but they're still a little lewd. Less shy children were far more lewd than I was.

The things I want to do with little girls are the things I would have wanted to do as a little boy if I weren't so embarrassed by everything. Most of the things I want to do are things loving moms do with their children all the time, I'd just enjoy it more.

Sorry for the mushy personal feelings but I really want to get across that my fantasies aren't bad things and really don't have anything in common with rape fantasies other than the legal part.

typically anxiety over protecting children goes back and forth historically, society has been on the assault for a couple decades so if the trend continues these attitudes should begin to lessen over time beginning in the next few years.

Secondly, you should read up on Foucault et al. on age of consent laws. Not all of the left is against these things per se

>>35229300
I have some pedophilic desires, but I don't define myself as a pedophile. I wouldn't have sex with a 12 year old, but I can be sexually attracted to them, but I don't define myself as a pedophile. I feel absolutely no guilt for those attractions, because I know I would never act on them. I also don't think the hate for pedophiles is unreasonable, since no one would ever want their child to have sex with an adult.
Just don't see yourself as a pedophile, you're just someone who likes petite body types, and as a symptom of that you happen to be attracted to children, but it doesn't matter since you wouldn't do anything about it.

>>35229264
The law is 18. If the law was 16, you'd say the same thing about age 15. If the law was 12, you'd say it about 11. The law is age 18, so if you want to break the law then you ought to be prepared for the consequences. You are certainly not unaware of the repercussions of doing such a thing, and I feel no sympathy.

>>35229222
Here's a personal anecdote that I like to use to explain how I feel about that argument.

When I was a little boy I used to massage my dad's feet sometime. He worked a lot outside so his feet hurt him and had lots of dead skin on them. I can't really remember the exact details of how I started doing it, but I know I liked doing it because it gave me an opportunity to make my dad feel better. I loved my dad, and I know my dad worked hard because he loved me and wanted to provide for me so it felt good to be able to do something for him.

Would you argue that I couldn't consent to rubbing his feet? Maybe my dad "groomed" me by being a loving father, but I definitely never felt intimidated or coerced. My undeveloped brain and the power imbalance had nothing to do with it.

What I'm getting at is, if it's possible for me to willingly rub one part of my dad's body to give him pleasure, why wouldn't I be able to do the same with any other part of his body? Sure giving your dad a handjob is weird, but that's a purely societal idea and has nothing to do with a biological incapacity for consent.

I don't even know what I am. I've never talked or typed this before. I have an undeniable attraction to the stuff but there's a lot of conflict of interests, maybe some of you can relate.

For one, consent is a huge turn on for me. There's nothing quite like a girl wanting *you*.. Kids can't do this and anyone that says they can is delusional, they don't even know what a sex drive is let alone understanding consent.

Romantic connection is another big one, sex means so much more when it's someone you really connect with, and kids are kids. They have the intelligence of a talking dog. Again anyone that says that this can exist is delusional, as if romance is on the mind of any 7 year old in existence.

One of the things I find really attractive is the cute innocence too. Actually pursuing a child ruins this right off the bat which gets rid of that attraction in addition to being a total monster for pursuing a damn kid

When I see kids around I don't even think about them sexually, it's always a passing "aww what a cute kid" and that's that. I'd never want to hurt anyone and I could never live with myself if I did. I've even gone soft just from thinking about the situation realistically. The thought of actively ruining a cute little kids life while they cry disgusts me to my core, and I really do mean that.

I don't know what I am. I don't know why I typed this. I guess I just needed to say it to someone after all these years. I'm genuinely disgusted by the real action of it, it's completely incompatible with my other interests, but I can't deny that I find kids way more physically attractive than women my own age.

What's wrong with me /r9k/? Is there anyone else that feels this way? I honestly feel so alone with all of this.

>>35229222
>As such, they physically cannot enjoy sex.
Did you just come here from the 17th century? Children most definitely can enjoy sexual contact. Probably not penetration obviously, but they certainly get pleasure from stimulation. Who didn't touch themselves when they were a child?

I'd like to cite an especially lewd example from Kinsey's "Sexual Behaviour in the Human Female". The girl described is three years old.

>Lying face down on the bed, with her knees drawn up, she started rhythmic pelvic thrusts, about one second or less apart. The thrusts were primarily pelvic, with the legs tensed in a fixed position. The forward components of the thrusts were in a smooth and perfect rhythm which was unbroken except for momentary pauses during which the genitalia were readjusted against the doll on which they were pressed; the return from each thrust was convulsive, jerky.

>There were 44 thrusts in unbroken rhythm, a slight momentary pause, 87 thrusts followed by a slight momentary pause, then 10 thrusts, and then a cessation of all movement. There was marked concentration and intense breathing with abrupt jerks as orgasm approached. She was completely oblivious to everything during these later stages of the activity. Her eyes were glassy and fixed in a vacant stare.

>There was noticeable relief and relaxation after orgasm. A second series of reactions began two minutes later with series of 48, 18 and 57 thrusts, with slight momentary pauses between each series. With the mounting tensions, there were audible gasps, but immediately following the cessation of pelvic thrusts there was complete relaxation and only desultory movements thereafter.'

Kids may be pure, but they're also lewd as hell.

>>35229533
This might just be fatherly instincts tbqh. It probably has to do with our evolutionary drive to want children. That's why we see human children as cute, because we care for cute things and don't hurt them. I feel quite similar, and I imagine most men feel this in some form.

I think pedophilia is just the sexualization of these feelings of cuteness.

The middle hates you too, kys.

>>35229019
Numbers 31:17-18

>Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

>>35229640
That is what it is, I do sexualize that cuteness, but it conflicts with everything else that I sexualize.

Maybe the fatherly bit is on to something though. I'd honestly be far far happier cuddling my hypothetical daughter while we watch TV than anything remotely sexual. There's something rewarding in getting a kid to smile and laugh after all, and I really do believe that that innocence deserves some protection. You only get to be a kid once

Thanks anon, you've given me something to think about.

>>35229500
I'm talking about penetrative sex and molestation. Grooming is equally bad, though.

Whether or not the child "consents" in the moment to do something "harmless" like giving an adult, especially a family member, a handjob, they will grow up with that memory and will feel traumatized by it later after realizing the magnitude of what's happened.

There are SO many reasons why there is an age of consent law. Quit trying to justify child rape.

>>35229591
I didn't say sexual "contact," I said sex. Children cannot enjoy sex in which they are penetrated, regardless. Children masturbating is totally fine, children masturbating an adult is not. Read my above bit on traumatizing events. No one who is molested, groomed, or raped as a child counts it as a positive experience for them. To think you could groom a child in a way that gratifies you sexually is to completely dismiss the psychological and perhaps physical damage that you do to the child. It is nothing less than horrendously selfish and that is why we have laws. Neck yourself kiddo

>>35229796
No problem anon. As someone who has an interest in psychology, I think about this kind of stuff a lot.
I also would rather not have any sexual interaction if I had children, just cuddle them and make them feel safe. There's nothing wrong about this of course, I don't think anyone would object to a father cuddling with their daughter in a non-sexual way.
Talking about this really makes me want children even more now, why did I have to be so socially inept?
Anyway, hopefully you feel better about that, maybe one day you'll even have kids yourself, it's not impossible!

>>35229796
As a pedophile, I think cuddling my daughter while we watch TV would be plenty sexual. Loving her body doesn't mean I love her less, it means I love her more. Sexuality isn't a bad thing, and it's not antithetical to innocence either.

I don't think humans should live exactly like bonobos do, but I think we could maybe be a little more like them. Sexuality is one of the things we evolved to socialize with each other, I don't think there's anything to gain from repressing it. I know I'm sort of sounding like a hippy, but try to think about it.

Also, I don't think kids are as asexual as you think they are. Children don't have adult sexuality obviously, but they have child sexuality and I think that's better.

>>35229944
I don't know whether not-penetrative-sexual acts with a child is inherently wrong, but our society basically makes it so anyone who experienced that will feel awful about it, which pretty much makes it a bad thing.

>>35228722
look mate, I don't blame society for my mental illness and neither should you
either be celibate or kys

>>35229881
Are you admitting that the children aren't actually traumatized by the event, but by the negative way they're taught to view it by society? If you ask me, the person receiving the hand job is not the bad guy. The bad guy is all the people who convince the child that hand jobs are the worst thing ever. They're the ones responsible for the child's trauma, since they're the ones who taught the child to be traumatized.

>No one who is molested, groomed, or raped as a child counts it as a positive experience for them.

Well actually, that's completely untrue (you're also assuming that any child who has sexual activity must have been groomed or molested, and that's untrue. Sometimes the child is the initiator). If you want proof, check out this scientific paper.

http://digilib.bc.edu/reserves/sc563/mcgu/sc56310.pdf

I know that you're not going to read it, but know that it's a peer reviewed study which concluded that sexual contact between children and adults usually does not result in any long-term psychological damage.

If you don't like the science, I could post some anecdotes that contradict your claim too. I never did anything sexual with an adult when I was a child, but I know lots of people did and enjoyed it.

>>35229300
>everyone else is crazy
this is never the answer

>>35229794
to keep alive for yourselves means pedophilia? huh? the bible teaches to not be a pervert. you're making connections via your perverted mindset.

>>35230158
There are over a billion Muslims on the planet. Either Islam is true, or a billion people believe something crazy.

>>35229935
Yeah, you know that really is what I want. A familial love isn't a sexual love, I hope I can have that familial love some day with that hypothetical daughter. While I do still find children to be more physically attractive, and that will unfortunately never change, I think it's absolutely safe to say that I value that familial love immensely more than a sexual one. For real anon you've really made my night a lot better and I want you to know that it really is appreciated from the bottom of my heart.

>>35229944
If you really loved your daughter, you'd love her enough to never touch her like that.

And I know how asexual kids are, there's a lot of curiosity involved and I would know. I sucked my friend's dick when I was in elementary school because I didn't know any better and it was all just a "funny joke" at the time. But the thing is that once I grew up, the memory really fucked with me and it still does to this day. I wasn't even coerced by an adult or anything. Sex and children do not and will not ever mix. If you're a pedo like me then you know how easy it is to delude yourself that acting on it is okay in certain situations, don't lie to yourself about it.

>>35230254
Glad I could help anon. I think one day we'll make it, I might be overly optimistic, but I don't care, I'm not going to become trapped by the defeatist mindset that's often perpetrated here in r9k.

>>35230254
The shame and embarrassment aren't something intrinsic to you, you had to learn it. The problem isn't that you sucked your friend's dick, the problem is that you let society convince you that it was weird and wrong. Shame is a terrible feeling, why do we teach children to feel it?

If you're willing, try reading this online book: https://www.ipce.info/host/radicase/chap01.htm

It really goes in depth about child sexuality with plenty of anecdotes and citations from case studies, and it's not too long.

>>35230349
Yeah, I think we'll be fine. I was never worried that I might hurt someone, but I've always been so ashamed of myself. I'm glad I posted tonight haha, strange difference from that usual defeatist attitude you mention.

You can join the ancaps. As long as you financially compensate the kids it's ok.

> tfw even contrarian social outcasts believe the propaganda against me

Are you kidding me? You're a pedophile and only mentally ill people think this way. I'm sorry you got the short end of the stick in life and have this affliction but that is no excuse for acting on it or finding reasoning for justifying it.

>>35230589
I don't want a prostitute, I want love.

But my beliefs aren't unique to me, there was a lot of activism done for this back in the 70s and 80s. Obviously it didn't turn out very well.

>>35230458
Whether or not you think society's way of turning sexual things into shame is good or bad, it's the society we have. If you sexually assault a kid, they're still going to grow up with that crippling shame whether you think it's right for them to or not.

I normally do read these kinds of sources and what not but I'm going to pass on this one, I know that it won't be healthy for me, mentally.

>>35230622
Truly pedophiles are the robots of robots.

>>35230690
I'm a pedophile and I'm not ashamed, I am living proof that it's possible to overcome societies harshest impositions.

Well, I'm not ashamed inside my head at least. Sometimes I think about telling my family that I'm a pedophile, and I wonder what they'd think. I want to believe that they would still love me, and that even if they thought I was crazy they'd still respect me and believe me when I say I would never harm anyone, but I'll always have that slither of doubt. I've learned that seemingly rational people can lose all sensibility when the subject is pedophilia, and I can't be sure that my family is an exception. I don't have any friends, so my immediate family are the only people in the world I can say I'm close to. If they hated me or were horrified with me I'd be totally alone and unloved, and that's about the worst thing I can imagine happening to me.

If I had a child, and they grew up to be a pedophile, I would want them to know that I wouldn't think any less of them for it. I wouldn't want them to deal with secret thoughts they can never tell anyone they know, and I definitely wouldn't want them to have a nagging feeling that if people could read minds that they'd be hated by all their loved ones.

Yes this is an emotional "think of the children" argument, but it's something that people ignore. If a child has sexual contact and is later convinced that it was bad, they feel a lot of anxiety. If a child is convinced pedophiles are bad and then they realize they're a pedophile, they kill themselves. I know that both of these problems could be solved, but first I have to convince people on the internet that I'm not a rapist.

>>35230137
I read your study just to spite you, and I can tell you what it does and does not say and do:

It DOES say that many previous studies done on child sexual abuse have had less than favorable samples.
It DOES NOT provide a substantially improved sample model.

It DOES say that previous studies on child sexual abuse have created or encouraged confirmation bias (i.e. encouraged responses that portray child sexual abuse in a bad light).
It DOES NOT explain how it avoided bias in its own study.

It DOES say that long-lasting negative effects as a result of child sexual assault are over-represented in previous studies on the subject.

It DOES NOT say that child sexual abuse does not result in long-term psychological damage.

It DOES say that some participants in the study reported any combination of 18 listed psychopathological symptoms, including eating disorders, OCD, alcoholism, and general, sexual and social adjustment problems; some of the reported symptoms directly correlated with prevalence of effect moderators (factors which affect the intensity of the after-effects) such as incest, penetration, and force or threat of force.

Even if, and let's pretend here, even IF child sexual assault didn't "usually" result in long-term psychological damage, let's look at the facts here:
It DOES result in short-term psychological damage and it DOES create a risk for long-term psychological damage.

If someone breaks my arm, but the effect is short-term, does that mean it wasn't bad?

You are advocating for "consensual" child-adult sexual relationships. You would chance permanently damaging a CHILD so you can get your rocks off. Again, neck yourself, disgusting pedo shit.

>>35227997
We can only hope that society gets to a point that allows capital punishment of those who can never be fixed.

The left and right hate you because you want to rape innocent children.

I am a monster because of something over which I have absolutely no control. Even if I wouldn't ever hurt a kid, I am still a potential danger.
I should be hanged because of it, yet I continue to live.
I cannot talk to anyone about this because I'll get ostracized by everybody at best, or locked away.
I can never fulfill my sexual desires, I am left with living my whole life feeling aroused by young boys and never be able to satisfy that arousal. Even if I were to attempt to do it, I would do it through another person's suffering and I would certainly not enjoy it, I'd feel like shit for it, and I'd regret it for the rest of my life and go to prison.
Even though I like kids at different levels, I feel very, VERY uncomfortable around them for these very reasons so I can't even just be around them, I end up throwing all the bolognese.

It's a lonely life. And I deserve it.

>>35231292
Are you really like this? I want you to know that you're not the bad guy, you're the victim.

Why is /r9k/ of all places so serious about this subject? Are all of the unabashed pedophiles too busy posting in loli threads?

>>35231417
because /r9k/ is one of the only places where you can be a sane pedo and talk to anyone at all about it without having your life ruined.