Did reddit kill the internet? Personally, I think so.. but I

Smartphones killed the internet.

>>34922681
Social media saved the internet, it brings us all closer together!

>>34922681
Nope, not Reddit. It was Youtube, Facebook, and smartphones (>>34922706 (You))

Well, and advertising. Advertising is the Jew behind all three of those things.

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>>34922681
I blame apple, facebook, google and the people who made the internet

I can't help but feel like the echo chamber characteristics and nu age 'meme'ing by being a snarky contrarian have dripped into society so much that now its rampant and there is just no original thought or creation, at least not as much as their used to be

everything got too consolidated

>>34922753
Nope, they didn't kill it, it was smartphones, back before anyone could access those websites there used to be quality content, hell even youtube made a contest because YT wasn't that big.

>>34922753
>Well, and advertising. Advertising is the Jew behind all three of those things.
This too

Pre-2008: the internet was full of content generated by users for other users
Post-2008: the internet is full of content generated by corporations to sell products

If you plugged a time machine into my PC in 1994 and showed me the internet the way it is today, I would have completely disavowed the fucking thing.

>>34922786
nah, Youtube was always cancer. Because video is cancer. It attracts people who don't want to read or type, but who just want to watch TV. Video as a medium attracts the very lowest common denominator in everything.

>>34922830
I can smell the neckbeard from here.

>>34922811
How old are you? It was way before 2008, something like 2003.

>>34922952
today i learned there were no pop-ups on the internet before 2008. internet has been for the corporations since even the late 90s.

>>34922811 is a bellend

>>34922952
In 94 I was 16, I was on BBSs in the 80s tho too. I think it was still tolerable at least as far up as 2007. eBay was still a massive garage sale, IRC was still popular, people had their own websites as their primary nerd hangouts...I guess if you consider like Amazon and MySpace being the beginning of the end, 2003 is valid. I was still getting AOL CDs I'm 2008, for example.

>>34923005
>>>34922811 (You) is a bellend
Calm down, honey. Guys are having a conversation, there's no need at all to go turbo-asshole. This isn't Reddit.

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>>34922681
I think it started with im messaging then social media then reddit. Then memes leaked into real life and then twitter came along and now everyone can share their shitty opinions

>>34922681
normies ruined it as it became more and more accessible and safe

>>34922753
>Advertising
Advertising ruins fucking everything

>>34922811
>>34923044
You can help. Give ad-blockers to normies.

>>34923044
>>34922753
>don't watch TV
>don't listen to radio
>use adblocker for internet
>massive spam filter in email
>blocked all spam calls
>still manage to have "HEY BUY THIS THING" shoved in my face 24/7
Why are companies sending billions to make me hate them? I refuse to buy anything that gets past my insane level of adblock just out of spite.

>>34923005
I don't think he meant advertising was the sole reason the internet got worse.

>>34923006

I feel lke the early 2000's is where it started to suck, it got too popular for the wrong reasons, and I'm not trying to be a hipster here.

>>34922681
Reddit used to be okay once upon a time. Back when there was /r/jailbait. Or at least /r/cutedeadgirls.
Now it's all just save SJW trash. Almost every subreddit is an echo chamber where no criticism or dissenting opinions are allowed and everything that is even slightly edgy gets taken down pretty quickly.

In all seriousness most of reddit has a real cringey, beta vibe to it emitted by the hordes of numale users which is why I have to come to you omega subhuman robots

>>34923162

why can't their be a space for alphas online?

and don't tell me its because alphas don't use the internet...

>>34923144
>for the wrong reasons
This I agree with 100%. When the average person started using it for entertainment was when it officially died. In the 90s, the average internet user produced content. When that changed to the average user being a content consumer, it was fucking over.

>>34923197
there is /r/theredpill
they are probably mostly betas but at least they try

>>34923261
can we meme anti-advertisement into people's minds?

>>34923197
This alpha/beta/omega shit is holding you down on top of your other issues. Cut this bullshit out, even if it's a bit true on a superficial level

>>34923099
Do not do this.

If all the normies use ad-blockers the advertisers will find ways to get around it or use different methods. At the moment nobody is going after ad-blockers too much because most people dont use them

>>34923289

who said I had issues?

I was just asking, if the guy is saying reddit is beta tier, and 4chan is omega, surely there must be an alpha part of the internet

>>34923123

I actually like advertising and would like to work in it. It's amazing how people want things but just don't know it yet. Ads provide a valuable service while also making insane profits, it's basically the perfect field. Most ads don't work for me either but that's just because I'm not their target demographic. I prefer clean and straightforward stuff. It's not perfect but Gilt and Touch of modern have gotten me excited a few times. That's what ads are suppose to do, stimulate your emotions. It feels good, and even better once you've got it. Most people are bored with just the details so they intentionally avoid it. Walmart seems to be the worst, their site is damn near unusable and they're losing out to amazon terribly because of it. They could take a totally different route or try to do the same thing better, but instead they chose to do the same thing but much worse. Units in descriptions are often way off and they don't even tell you the material. I was looking for PET 5 gallon bottles once and just by luck I found a picture of the bottom for the recycling code. That's a huge selling point and they lose business by not mentioning the most important feature of it.

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>>34923044
Not if it's vintage!

>>34923288
You can meme pretty much anything in the collective minds, but not that many people are actually capable of it, and even less are willing to waste their efforts on shit like this. It'll get worse.

>>34923288
I'm waiting for the next internet. In the BBS days, first you had to build a computer, or buy one and then install a modem. There was a hill to climb, like a technological puzzle to solve before you could actually do it. Even in like 1994/5 you needed to install a winsock or know how to use pine on a UNIX shell or something, there was a technological barrier that the average person didn't care to cross. What we need is another thing that requires you to do something difficult to access it. That's going to keep out 99% of normie scum. When that exists, I'm a ghost from the fucking internet.

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>>34922681
>>34922706
>>34922753
>>34922786
>>34922811
>>34923043
>>this whole thread

oh look a bunch of 20 year olds who have been online for a decade and think that the internet is ruined simply because of the egocentric worldview and the fact that they're the ones who aren't getting as much pleasure out of it compared to when they were prepubescent dopamine machines who got burnt out on limitless porn and free entertainment.

>boohoo everything is ruined forever and the world is coming to an end because I feel like it.

>>34923318

4chan is the alpha of the internet, unless doble is still a thing.

>>34923318
No, there isn't. It's all one big pile of mixed shit.

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>>34923381
(You)

Because you're worth it! :P

>>34923310
No, anon. The only way we have to escape this hell is to burn the advertisers' business model to the ground. We have to make it financially nonviable to run a clickbait site or a social-media network. We have to turn off the billion-dollar taps funding Google, Facebook, and the literally hundreds of tracking, targeting, and """analytics""" companies.

>but then 90%+ of websites will die because they can't make money!
Good! We need this! Sites that make their money by actually selling a product will be fine, those that exist only to harvest ad money will go extinct. Nothing could be better for the internet.

>>34923372
hey faggot go on the deep web today instead of sitting around and daydreaming about the future of a faggots-only supernet while you post on one of the internet's most popular website that has literally millions of visitors each month while you complain about how too many people have access to a modern technology.

>>34923381
It really didn't make you think this time. At all.

>>34922681
reddit is just a forum with voting system to hide retards... it actually has more free speech than other sites

WWW killed the internet.
>>34922706
smartphones made the internet better

>>34923372
can't we make our own version of the deep web and make it virtually impossible for advertisements or any other cause fo the fall of the surface web to happen there?

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>>34922681
The iPhone ruined the internet, you see people meme about 2008 being the year it all changed, and the iPhone was released in 2007, it normalized having a decent speed 3G connection in your pocket, which in turn normalized using the internet at all times because it was so easy to access.

This also changed the internet in a way that consolidated users on single mega-sites because everyone wanted to use what their friends were and their friends were using what their friends were and that's what has ruined it all. There's no small communities on the internet anymore, everyone has to be apart of something large.

>>34923418
>the internet is nothing but amazon.com and tax-burning government websites

>Nothing could be better for the internet.

is your post irony? 10/10 if it is.

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>>34923449

>reddit is just a forum with voting system to hide retards
>it actually has more free speech than other sites

wew lad

is that why to get the only reasonable opinion I have to sort by controversial?

>>34923381

Do you really think the internet is better after the extreme shrinking it's been going under? Social media should never have been invented. Who the hell is going to spend enough tie on porn to get burnt out even with high speed internet? We had dial up so everyone saved their shit for offline use.

>>34923418
I said the exact same thing about linkexchange in the 90s, websites only exist to sell advertising to other websites who sell advertising
>>34923430
>deep Web
Garbage.
>>34923449
Smartphones made the internet more accessible, which made it much worse.
>>34923450
Well first you have to define what you mean by deep web. IRC and Usenet still exist in some form, though IRC is the only one that still keeps the fucking NORMIES out.

>>34923449
>voting system to hide retards... it actually has more free speech than other sites
voting system to hide non-PC opinions in most subs actually.

>>34923430
>modern technologies
>80% of them are just liking useless shit on facebook and posting selfies

You're not here, my man, look for another thread to reeee at women.

>>34923467
>you see people meme about 2008 being the year it all changed

Only faggots will meme about that and how phones ruined -their- internet.

The internet is better than ever.

Really it's just millenial childhood nostalgia

>>34923498
>Well first you have to define what you mean by deep web.
i have no idea, i'm not a tech guy but i can picture from the height of my ignorance some form of algorithm or protocol or whatever that organically enforces some form of user-created content popularity.

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>>34923521
>tryhard
And I try and I try and I tryyyyyy

But everybody tries to put me down...

>>34923472
The people who actually have something to say will still be there. You can get a domain and a VPS for ten bucks a month or less. Blogs and personal sites will still be there. The Buzzfeeds and Gawkers of the web, though, their numbers will be up.

>>34923418

A product no matter how good is completely worthless without advertising. I could invent a car that runs 999mpg and uses fuel but I won't sell a single one if no one knows about it. Advertising is a service like any other, the doctor, your mechanice, preacher, waitress, etc.. We're a service based economy, I don't thinking it's even possible to go back to industrial and agricultural aat this point.

>>34923488
>>34923498
>>34923503

Name some things that are inherently OBJECTIVELY bad in today's internet and why it's "killed".

None of that "muh normies" "muh social media" "people ignore me to go on their phones and so phones are the problem but in reality 15 years ago they would have ignored me by pretending to read a magazine because I am an unlikable retard"

>>34923503
his opinion makes sense actually

>>34923531
For user created popularity look no further than youtube and co. That's the level we're on.

Time killed the internet and people.

The adoption of the internet would only grow with time and people to use it.

The more people that are on the internet the more it starts to feel like "real life" in the sense of the interactions.

>>34923581

too bad, downboated

>>34923498
Smartphones are just as accessible as PC's

>>34923449
I won't even flame you too bad. I"m genuinely curious how you figure a system designed for the explicit purpose of inhibiting free speech serving as the core of a website makes it have more free speech. The mods here are pretty pissy at times but it's nowhere near as bad. The mods here only get their period and ban/delete shit for no reason once a month. Other sites the staff is permanently on their period.

>>34923549
Satisfied customers will advertise your product for you. People searching for things that your product does will find it without you paying money to attract them.

Don't forget for a moment that the entire purpose of advertising is to deceive. The whole goal is to distract you from what you were paying attention to, place your attention somewhere else, and then trick you into spending money you otherwise would not have spent. Advertising is inherently fraudulent. Customers who want information - as opposed to your deceptive sales pitch - will call you. You calling them is unwelcome.

>>34923548
but these are now hidden in the enormous ammounts of normie content that the internet has now and like-minded people have a harder time meeting with each other online.

>>34923548
>You can get a domain and a VPS for ten bucks a month or less

>in an internet without advertising revenue

haha


hahahahahahaa

ooooooohhhh hahaha

mmmmm

hehehe

that is a rich giggle that you've given me

Buying up a physical billboard will be less expensive and more practical than running a site on this hypothetical internet with no advertising revenue model.

>>34923531
That kind of thing was never necessary before. It existed or it didn't. If nobody visited, then you were just talking to an empty room. You've got to figure out a way to categorically exclude probably 99% of the population. Usenet is good for that.
>>34923567
Because the internet is designed to sell products. If you have to ask this question, you're probably too young to remember when it wasn't this way.
>>34923597
Take your laptop into the shitter at work a few times and then tell me smartphones are as accessible as PC's. Pull out your laptop at the bus stop or waiting in line at the movie theatre. That's what I'm talking about.

Reddit was made for normies. What's more normal than using mob rule to drown out dissenting opinions and reinforce circlejerks? I wouldn't say it ruined the internet though. MSM, clickbait, and advertising do a great job of that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVfslRsNXUc

>>34923567
You just named a few yourself. And no, I was in highschool when the internet barely became a thing, and socialization with other human beings was different, on average. Relations were formed different. Again, on average.

>>34923567

I already named it in the post, the internet is shrinking and constantly getting smaller. Some consider it a good thing but I actually liked it when it was bigger. If you can even find them anymore, a personal site is kept going one year, two at most, and it's always the same generic as fuck wordpress.

>>34923549
I hardly see advertisements for cocaine.

>>34923585
but ain't it being skewed by businesses and advertisements?

>>34923620
>Satisfied customers will advertise your product for you

Which is great if you live in a town of 40 people in the 1400s.

Not so much if you live on this side of the industrial revolution.


The world economy, and the internet, needs advertising to function.

>>34923498
>deep web
>IRC and Usenet

laddy

>>34923592
kek'd originigger

>>34923673
If you want to contribute, you're going to have to speak in more than grunts. IRC and Usenet both qualify as deep web.

>>34923635

audible kek

south park is good

>>34923607
on reddit there are only 2 rules: no illegal content and no spamming. compare to this site's 17

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>>34923651
>You just named a few yourself.

None of those are objective, and none of those are objectively bad either.

wow someone somwhere is taking a selfie, the sky is falling.

>>34923653
>the internet is shrinking and constantly getting smaller

No.

>>34923698
>No illegal content
>No spamming
>Admins can do literally anything they want including changing the content of the posts

>>34923667
People have their small overlapping little communities even in vast multi-million-person modern metropolises. The functioning of the world and the economy, far from needing advertising, has been perverted and damaged by advertising. Advertising is economic meth. It boosts you in the short term, so you think, why not keep using it? but then you keep using it, it works less and less, and the damaging effects build. And then it kills you.

>>34923651
>tfw you lived in a point in time where human relations drastically changed and there is no turning back.

>>34923620

That's just dumb and makes no sense. Customers are fucking retarded, I'd much rather advertise my products right. Have you ever asked a person to explain something to you? When I do it 99% of the time I know about a hundred times more than them and, and that's just a few minutes after deciding I may want one. Besides that, how can you know you want something if it never existed before and you didn't think to invent it? Searching for it would only tell you if someone else had the same idea. When I do that it just pisses me off because I thought I was on to something, that means I'm probably not going to buy because they stole my idea from me before I thought it.

Advertising is educational, the whole purpose of ads is to educate. It can play on emotion because it wants to convert, but the ultimate goal is always education, and deception never plays even the slightest role. How many times have you bought something because you thought the salesman was lying to you? Just think about it for a second, that's not a good business model.

you guys are talking about advertising, but the real problem is discourse

the way people TALK has fundamentally changed due to the internet and its mass consolidation within the last 3-5 years

>>34923742
Same thing happened when Marconi invented the radio. The internet is a huge fucking deal, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

>>34923698
but there is also the enforced by mods rules of each sub and the site's voting system itself that is crafted to hide opinions that people don't like.

>>34923698
Exactly.

>>34923607
Free speech doesn't exist in the context of private organization. Free speech only exists to protect you from the government.

Like the other anon said though, there are less global rules on reddit.

What's more is that while each subreddit might have its own sub-rules, it doesn't matter because there's a sub-reddit for everythong and everything and there's a free speech circlejerk area for everyone.

Do you hate feminists? Great, go over to one of the several anti-feminist subs, but if you post anything feminist you'll get banned.

Do you love feminism? Great, go over to one of the several feminist subs, but if you post anything anti-feminist you'll get banned.

etc.

It's like that for every possible thing.

>>34923716
Good graph, it perfectly ilustrates how you have to go through tons of more shit to get to something remotely decent, and that includes its users, like yourself

>>34923655

It's not really used anymore as they've switched to newer generation -caines. They are definitely advertised though. Just turn on the TV, you'll see some kind of drug ad running within an hour on pretty much any channel. I don't see advertisements for [obscure shit that was made in the 70s] but that doesn't mean advertising doesn't exist.

>>34923793

but you're acting like that is a good thing

echo chambers are fucking awful

nope
it's just that internet culture spread to absolutely everyone
when any culture or idea becomes widespread there are people who don't fully grasp the nuances
this continues until it's distilled into nothingness
same thing happened with punk and metal, basically
internet is dead

>>34923741
>but then you keep using it, it works less and less, and the damaging effects build. And then it kills you.


Meth does that, but advertising doesn't.

Where exactly in your mind do you see ADVERTISING killing people and not working over time?

Advertising works great, that's why the top brands are where they are today even if they might not have the best product or service.

No. Everyone ruined the Internet. We killed her, lads.

>>34923754
Have you ever talked to a salesman, or anyone in marketing for that matter? They don't educate. They speak in buzzwords. They manipulate. If the goal of advertising was education, you'd see commercials that focused on facts and specifications, instead of emotions. The goal of an ad campaign is to associate a (((brand))) with good feelings in people's heads, so that they'll open their wallets without thinking. And again, if your product was superior on its merits, this wouldn't be needed at all. The product would sell on its merits. There would be no need to run vague feel-good ad campaigns for it.

Advertising and marketing are essentially the very opposite of education.

>>34923771
I bitch about that too senpai, but it's a different discussion. People just go ape shit on others, they go absolutely mental when they see slightly different opinions, see:
>>34922894
>>34923005
>>34923381
>>34923521
>>34923632
It's like one big asshole competition sometimes.

>>34923716
People on average visit far far fewer sites. Something like 35 websites in total drive 80% of all web traffic when that number was 500 web sites just ten years ago.

>>34923698

You completely ignore the voting system though, that doesn't foster communication.

>>34923793

We're using free speech in the colloquial sense. Not your first year law student quackery. Reddit is designed from the ground up to block conversation and unhindered expression of ideas.

>>34923822
You're posting in one of the biggest echo chambers of the internet.

I mean both this website and r9k specifically.

>>34923865
>Something like 35 websites in total drive 80% of all web traffic when that number was 500 web sites just ten years ago.

>something

proof please.

10 years ago it was Yahoo and Myspace, now it's Google and Facebook. big difference.

>>34923862
The product would sell on its merits.

Tell that to videogames.

>>34923872

I won't argue that r9k isn't an echo chamber, but I only posted it here because /g/ is autistic and this isn't really relevant to /pol/

but there have been a varying amount of disagreements already on this topic, so to say this topic aides or strengthens the echo chamber is wrong

if I posted a thread about why girls are sluts, ya that is echo chambering

>>34923865
So one of the problems of the internet is centralization. Why? Because companies now have the horse power to run big enough server nets like google and facebook when the content of previous decades was run on more personal servers and we needed to dig deeper to be satisfied with it and that meant layers over layers of different sites? Thoughts?

>>34923870
This guy gets it

The voting system makes it so that you get points for posting opinions that appeal to the most people. This doesn't encourage depth of discussion and variation of ideas, it requires that you create a publicly palatable version of your opinion. In the case of your opinion being unpalatable, your post is moved to the bottom of the thread and hidden

On 4chan for example, the strength of your opinion lies in your ability to express it, not by how many people agree with it. That's why voting is cancerous.

>>34923839
>>Where exactly in your mind do you see ADVERTISING killing people and not working over time?
Because it pushes people into buying not the best products, but the products that are advertised the most. It incentivizes companies to compete not on high quality or low prices, but on how well they can saturate people's heads with drivel. The savvy consumer and the consumer that does what the ads tell him to are exact opposites. Advertising promotes a complacent economy based on keeping consumers ignorant and exploiting that ignorance, and damages the healthy competition and progress of capitalism.

>>34923741

Advertising is like blood. It carries needed things to you and unneeded things away from you. Without advertising the economy will die.

In case you haven't been paying attention to anything that happened since you were born, trade is international now. If I need something like a battery, or maybe I want some cool bottles so I can start a business I go on a site like alibaba instead of asking my dumbass neighbor who doesn't know a liter from a gallon or a car battery from a potato alarm clock. Some of the stuff I search for I don't even know what it's called until an ad teaches me some stuff and prompts further research. I'm a little more on the cost averse side but even then I still have a soft spot for the guy who advertises better, it just makes them seem professional and it heavily influences my decision when it comes time for escrow.

>>34923870
>Reddit is designed from the ground up to block conversation and unhindered expression of ideas.

It's not.

>>34923870
>You completely ignore the voting system though, that doesn't foster communication.

Sure it does. It acts as a socio-cultural and intellectual barometer of where people are. The top-voted post will always represent the most popular opinion of a certain subreddit at the group of people that post there.

Swarm theory, the law of averages, etc.


Plus if you're some edgy faglord who wants to be told that he's right and everyone else is wrong, then you can just scroll down to see the most downvoted posts and pat yourself on the back.


It's better than this where good points and factual posts get lost in a sea of shitposts.

>>34922681
No reddit is just our new whippingboy. It was digg in the past

>>34923953
>The savvy consumer and the consumer that does what the ads tell him to are exact opposites. Advertising promotes a complacent economy based on keeping consumers ignorant and exploiting that ignorance, and damages the healthy competition and progress of capitalism.
why don't we meme consumer education then? like speaking against popular misleading advertisements and shit?

>>34923953
>damages the healthy competition and progress of capitalism.

I knew you were a libertarian.

and really it doesn't matter if the bigger brands stay on top through advertising. People who aren't retarded will know that store-brand or lesser-brand products aren't inherently any worse and can sometimes be better.

>>34923983
>I'm a little more on the cost averse side but even then I still have a soft spot for the guy who advertises better, it just makes them seem professional and it heavily influences my decision
So you fully admit that you aren't shopping based on which product is the best value, but which product has the biggest ad budget? This is exactly what we want to discourage in the world.

Case in point. Tylenol is nothing but ibuprofen. It's more expensive than generic ibuprofen. That extra cost pays for the branding and advertising. That's pure loss for the consumer. They're paying more for the same product, and what do they get for it? Obnoxious commercials on television. Everyone except the marketing people would be better off if people didn't engage in this crap.

>>34924066
groups like adbusters have been doing that for decades. They have things like no-name no-brand shoes and Buy Nothing Day and all sorts of fun little things where they think they're making a difference when really they''re just preaching to the choir.

>>34924017
>It acts as a socio-cultural and intellectual barometer of where people are.
It fucking doesn't. The most popular opinion is not always the most socio-cultural and intellectual enlightened opinion.
>It's better than this where good points and factual posts get lost in a sea of shitposts.
These also get lost in reddit's bottom when they don't conform to the hive mind. Here what comes first takes place first.

>>34924017
The problem is most people suck from an individual's point of view, and shit like reddit slaps you in the face with it. One can always choose not to get involved in all that nonsense, thankfully.

>>34923862

Maybe for generic shit like soda, but most things aren't so interchangable and advertising it their to educate. I drink coca cola because coke zero comes in an edgy black bottle and isn't as gay as diet coke nor as hurrdurr machismo as le 10 calories diet but not really soda, also who doesn't like polar bears and santa claus? I don't resent them for this, they sell me what I want, image and a quality product.

I like my chinkpads for the image too I guess, boring stuffy neckbeard or tightass corporate drone, but I'm more interested in the hardware. I doubt they would sell much if they didn't list or mention specs anywhere. Even Apple, one of the most brilliant of marketeers, still include specs and what it does. They gave a useful tool the Coca Cola treatment and made bank with it. No matter how much I dislike their products I respect the shit out of them for their campaign success. Advertising is multifaceted but despite being confusing for some it's crucial to everything.

In my own life I do the same thing. It may sound cocky but I'm not afraid to toot my own horn and talk myself up. I myself am a brand and try to get others to buy it, whether it's employers or just people I want to like me. It's not deceit when I neglect to mention irrelevant stuff like what I whack off to or mean things I say to people online for shits and giggles. Everyone wants to put their best foot forward.

>>34924017
>if you're some edgy faglord
what you mean by that? someone that doesn't conform to social justice and PC?

On the topic of advertisement, I don't mind advertisements themselves but I have a massive disdain for intrusive ads that stop what I am doing or get in the way. Get rid of those and I'd put up with their presence.

>>34924127

>It acts as a socio-cultural and intellectual barometer of where people are.

Yeah for a small corner of the population within the ages of 13-22

That is hardly what I would call 'the most popular opinion'

>>34924083
Not him, but big brands have more than just advertising going for them. They have a global distribution infrastructure.

I can be driving through some backwater hick town that looks like the set of a horror movie and have a headache at 2am when the local pharmacy is closed and I can't get generic ibuprofen - but I can stop at a Shell-brand 24 hour gas station and get some Tylenol-brand ibuprofen and some Kleenex-brand tissues, etc.


I can go to some foreign country where I don't speak or read the language and don't know that the food is like and which restaurants are good - but I can always get a Big Mac and some Coca Cola at McDonalds.

etc.

>>34924293
not in indian y

>>34924127
>The most popular opinion is not always the most socio-cultural and intellectual enlightened opinion.

I didn't say that it was, I said that it was a socio-cultural and intellectual barometer of where people are in the context of where we are in time and what goes on in the world.

It's also an exercise in swarm theory. A single ant or bee isn't smart, but as a whole they are. Humans are like that.

>These also get lost in reddit's bottom

They don't get lost though, you know exactly where a post will be depending on the opinion and culture of a subreddit.

It gets downvoted on reddit, but here people will instead call you a cuck or a tryhard or a shitposter.

It just aggregated most of all the shitty forums and made it easy for normies to understand. So instead of having millions of different forums for different interests/hobbies with their own individual sign ups, rules, moderators, formats they created a place to contain it all and centralize it.

pros: you don't have to sign up for each of those shitty forums, """easier to use""", free, I think you can create your own forum for whatever your interest is instantly (that's a subreddit right?), most likely more secure

cons: everything is centralized, so all the money is going to one company and they make the rules, which also means there is a lack of creativity/diversity on the internet, lack of moderation? (anyone is a mod, but that was already the case kinda), reddit sucks

>>34924083

I search for which has the best value, and advertising is a good way to judge that. If some shit chink factory can't even pay some other chink shitposter to throw together a page longer than 5 sentences and two images what can I expect of their quality control or ability to move things along when we hit a roadblock?

I don't kid myself and assume all those pretty pictures of lab equipment are real, but I can tell when it's a real production line or when the English looks like it was composed by an only half retarded chink. This builds confidence. If the product is shit or not as advertised then I go with another. You don't buy a trailer from the first guy you like, you order multiple samples from whoever has the best product, and when the products are all more or less the same because chinks love to copy each other, then you go with whoever looks like they provide the best customer service and quality control. It's the value added services that overcomes the cheapest price when considering suppliers.

Tylenol is acetaminophen/paracetamol though, ibuprofen is something else. I always buy generic for drugs because I know it's the same thing in a different form. That's a bad example though. Try comparing Coca Cola and Dollar Tree house brand cola. there is a noticeable difference in the experience. Drugs are usually to take something away and the process of using is as pleasurable either way, just swallow a pill. The packaging, binders, etc. are different and I do prefer certain generic brands over others for that reason though. So even with drugs which are identical I still have preferences that can be targeted.

>>34924426
>A single ant or bee isn't smart, but as a whole they are.
So you're telling me that the nu-male bullshit that goes on reddit is somehow smart?

>>34924158
I have a thinkpad too. I got it because I talked to people on /g/ who were happy that it had replaceable parts, and had good Linux support.

You think Lenovo trumpets that shit in their ads? Of course not. They just try to make you feel "Ooh, I must be on the cutting edge with this Lenovo(tm) Windows(tm) 10(tm) machine!", and avoid all that bothersome stuff with specifications and numbers and shit.

>I myself am a brand and try to get others to buy it
You are what's wrong with the world. That's not a practical statement on whether what you do works or not, I'm sure it does. That's an ethical statement on what the world ought to be. It ought to be based on honesty. It's a damned shame that we live in a world where people like you don't care about what is, but rather what sells. Its as fraudulent as Bernie Madoff's ponzi scheme, which, if you'll remember, also worked well for him. For a while.

>>34924162

He means someone who shouldn't be allowed to join in other reindeer's games. If you don't agree with him he'd rather it be as if you never said anything at all. That's why this platform is so much better. Everyone is treated equally and posts stand solely on their merits instead of popular opinion or the name behind it. The popular argument is that getting called a faggot is literally the exact same and literally a million times worse than being downvoted, but I just don't see it. Nearly every person I called a faggot responded, and then I responded back. When your posts are hidden or even shadowbanned you just don't get that.

>>34924543
>The popular argument is that getting called a faggot is literally the exact same and literally a million times worse than being downvoted, but I just don't see it.
Typical from easily offended snowflakes. kek

>>34924426
>They don't get lost though, you know exactly where a post will be depending on the opinion and culture of a subreddit.
A dead dissident of a leftist regimen will also be right at the bottom, of earth. LOL

>>34924522

I saw the specs mentioned in their writeups and ads, it influenced my decision alongside other factors. Either way viral advertising is still advertising.

It's a little unfair to compare me wanting to get hired or have friends to a fucking ponzi scheme though. Do you seriously expect me to believe you put no effort into looking good? How does that even look on a resume?
>work history: X years Y place, also I shot neighborhood cats with a BB when I was 14
>skills: php but I saw a homeless man last night and told him to fuck off when he asked for money
>references: here's some asshole who fucking hates me [phone number]

Everyone is their own personal brand and we put effort into building and maintaining it. That doesn't mean deception like you've been fooled into believing. It means being a good person while also getting recognized for being a good person. Being a good person alone simply doesn't cut it. I don't think it ever was, but it most definitely isn't enough now.

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>>34922681
I want to say yeah, but honestly it was "smartphones" i.e. anything that can run fb, twitter, etc. Laptops were a first wave, but no one had them when they first came out the way they did with phones.

They ruined the souls community though.

>>34922784
Also this. I noticed myself saying, lately, "man fuck these guys I like that anyways" That's more just being an adult and giving less fucks, but you're still on to something.

>>34924464
>>34924675

reddit can and often is just as alt-right if not even more than 4chan.

>>34923634
>Usenet is good for that.
Ahh yes Usenet, where you can go onto a discussion thread about a recent particle physics article published and instead find people ranting about how their neighbor is a secret Demon Nigger Terrorist, or they've just finished the latest (((article))) on their theory of how the spacetime quantum correlates to the steradian flux of the sun when Jupiter is eclipsing across the planar.

I'm 35. I miss the internet of the early 2000s. It really is ruined, it was the wild west before, and now it's a bunch of suburban gated communities, with every house looking identical, with the same den and the same bathroom and the same fake woodgrain kitchen cabinets.

Social media killed the internet. del.icio.us was the first wave, and then Digg, Reddit, and Facebook helped really kill it.