>want to be a girl more than anything >drinking like crazy

ha ha yeah dude just take pills and you'll turn into an anime girlboy wow whoa ha ha

>>34917146
I don't watch anime you disgusting normie filth

>>34917041
90% of this board will encourage you if you want to become a trap.

Post boipucc

The only good thing about trannies is that most of them have th decency to kill themselves after they realize they've permanently mutilated the only body they'll ever have.

Just save the time and money and kill yourself now.

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You are never going to be a girl, doesnt matter if you take hormones, cut off your dick, get some plastic boobs/ass.. You are and will ever be a man, a faggot, but still a man.

>>34917041
fine then, take hormones, god. Stop asking for other people's permission.

>>34917041
Because you can't be a girl. But there's something about transgender people that makes them completely shut out and ignore this one simple fact. You can go ahead and become a trap and you might pass, you might find some creep who's into you to satisfy his own perversion, but the next thing you 'want' will come along and it will all have been for nothing.

>>34917041
Someone has to play the devil's advocate here.
If you're considering hormones anyway, you might as well inject some anabolics. Get some Testa, Tren, HGH, and some Anavar. Maybe Clen too. Do proper male steroids, most likely it will make you a normie.

>>34917226
>>34917233
>>34917268
I fucking hate normies

>>34917326
That is the complete fucking opposite of what I want

How will I look cute in girl's clothes if I'm MORE muscular, LARGER, AND HAIRER

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>>34917041

You can do whatever the fuck you want. Why the fuck would I care?

>>34917041
So you want to change from an ugly dude to an uglier dude with fake tits and no dick

>>34917268
Not OP but I'm on a similar boat, although I'm only attracted to women. The fuck is wrong with me?

>>34917041
do it. go to a therapist and talk to them about it.

>>34917397
I want to be me except with softer, clearer skin, no body hair, breasts, etc. all the changes of hormones. I want to wear cute clothes and have long hair and wear makeup and be pretty. When did I say anything about cutting off my dick? Fucking normies and their stupid assumptions about everything

>>34917041
Because you would be more of a faggot than you already are OP

>>34917041
and why do you care what a bunch of random people tell you? do it if you want dude.

Disgusting fag, you're literally the cancer off the earth, Jesus the last thing we need is some mutant freak walking around we already have enough of them. Just shoot yourself.

>>34917041
Babe, then do it! Why suffer for something that can be so easily fixed? You can become a pretty girl, dress in nice clothes and everything.
If you are keeping your "man shell" for the others, well...what does this do for you? Nothing!!
Please, accept yourself and be chase your dreams! Be happy!

>>34917365
You won't look cute in girls clothes, you won't look cute in anything. And you won't want to, that's the purpose. You probably want to be a girl do to low test, taking roids will chemically make the beta go away.

>>34918038
Why are you advocating for me to change my mind? Why do you want me to become an entirely different chemically brainwashed person just to satisfy you?

Fucking. Normalfags.

>2-3 hours
>making good decisions

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>>34917365
Why did you make this thread if you aren't going to listen to any advice

>>34918263
>why did you make this thread if you aren't going to do exactly everything everyone tells you to do without questioning it yourself or coming to your own decisions

>>34918141
You won't satisfy me man no matter what you do, I probably won't even know what you do.
But, when it comes to topics like these where someone is actually talking about a life changing decision, I like to stop shitposting and actually give my best advice.
Telling you to stay the way you are would be bullshit, you are obviously unhappy with the hand you were dealt. But I've known both traps and roid monkeys over the years. And statistically speaking, over the long run, the roid monkeys regretted their choice less than the traps who realized a few years in that they're literally a fucking meme.

>>34918302
I would rather live a few years of finally knowing what it feels like to be pretty and happy and wear the clothes I want, act the way I want, be the way I want then it all fall apart and then kill myself then spend a lifetime being miserable as the person I never want to be

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>>34918286
Do whatever the fuck you want then. There's your validation. I was considering putting thought in my post but it'd be pointless.

>>34918302
Listen to this anon. You don't want to be a trap, you don't want to be a living meme. Stop masturbating to sissy porn, try to make yourself straight or at least regular gay. You can't be happy as a trap. You will hate yourself. Trust me, I was a trap.

>>34917041

>want to be a girl more than anything

You will never be a girl, end.

>You're literally all normies
Because we don't want to be fooled into having sex with men with mutilated genitals?

Go back to /lgbt/ feggit.

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>>34918338
You underestimate the psychological effects of steroids and the wonderful side effect named body dysmorphia. They basically remove your introspection and existential questioning, it also removes most emotions other than anger and horniness. You become literally more of an animal, and all that wanting to be a girl shit will literally stop occuring to you once you get a good dose of testa in you. And as soon as you get your first gains, body dysmorphia will set in. You will always feel as if you do not have enough gains, and it will become your obsession to get bigger. You will stop being unhappy about life, you will stop being such a complicated shit. You will literally be happy as long as you keep getting those gains. It will consume you, but you will not be miserable. Not at all. Besides buddy...

>traps being pretty
Traps are never pretty, horny perverts just overlook the obviously manish features on them in order to get their nut. wake the fuck up buddy.

>>34918723
I wish you were my father.

There are no pills or surgery in this world that will make you a girl.

When you'll realize you'll have wasted years of your life taking hormones just to end up with a shipwreck of a body you'll want to kill yourself.

>>34917455
Then go fucking do it. Be a transgender/trap or whatever. If your decision in this matter hinges on the opinion of some autists on a Palauan Basket Weaving Consortium then that's a bigger red flag than being a trap.

>>34919021
Everyone is focusing on
>Tell me why the fuck I shouldn't take hormones and be a trap

and not

>Why do you want me to kill myself instead of being happy you inhuman fucks

>>34917041
Even if you do take the hormones you'll still just be an ugly faggot queer with long hair and maybe tits. Suicide is just better for everyone.

>>34919048

He is too far gone, either way he is going to kill himself.
>He will take hormones
>He will be happy for a bit
>Then he will realise that this lifestyle isn't what he/she expected
>he/she will get even more depressed
>he/she will regret the irreversible damage done to his body
>he/she will be filled with shame and regret for the rest of his life
>he/she pulls a Kurt Cobain

All OP has to do is just go out of this "phase"

>>34919048
Fucking go for it, none of us will go out of their way to physically stop you. Fuck all of us. The reason everyone is telling you not to is because we've seen the real life statistics and base our opinions on that. There's a high chance you might end up killing yourself (and possibly others), you can't blame us for trying to warn you.

>>34917041
I hope you turn out really qt and passable and get a qt bf/gf/nonbinary mating partner and learn to love life c:

have a cute day

>>34919216
If 41% of trannies attempt suicide, why can't OP be in the other 59%? Transition is not a guaranteed death sentence

I have a dilemma
>want to be a girl
>hate women

whatever. im just growing my hair out long and stopping at that.

yo, i honestly don't care what you do OP but my question to you and i'm honestly hoping you respond, is, why do you care what we think???

>>34919279
I completely agree, he could very well be the 59%. But when it's a life or death situation those odds are very worrysome

>>34919279

lt should be.

>>34917041
You don't want to be a girl you want a girl.

>>34917041
follow your dreams. shoot yourself.

first off,
>start thread
>YOURE ALL FUCKING NORMIES BTW XXXDDDDDD ALSO IM DISCARDING YOUR OPINIONS
secondly,
female > male > faggot
if you wanna be a pretty gril, just understand that even being a trap wont get you there due to your big man hands, adams apple, masculine facial construction, broad chests and other shit. youre also a hairy fuck.
The one way I cope with it is I just play females in games. Its pretty depressing but its just the way it is.

>>34919322
Checkd n kekd

Zhdhdborgisn

Do what makes you happy.

That doesn't mean I want to associate with you or see you in public, though.

>>34917041
If you're not already super slender and twinky looking, you'll be absolutely hideous and will be even more depressed.

>>34919021
>Palauan Basket Weaving Consortium

You can stop doing this now. It wasn't all that funny to begin with.

>>34917041
Look if you honestly want to kill yourself and hate yourself as badly as you say you do why not just try to transition? I would assume giving it a try is better than killing yourself. The people that say you are more likely to kill yourself if you transition are uniformed. You're more likely to kill yourself if you have dysphoria and don't transition. If you're under 20 you have really good chances to pass. If you're under 25 you still have a chance. Even if you're older than 25 it can't hurt to at least try if you want to kill yourself anyways.

>>34917041
What movie is that? The guy in the gif turns up in all war movies.

>>34917041
Are you sure it will be better suicide is still pretty high with trannies

>>34919980
Its high for people with dysphoria regardless if they transition or not but I mean if they plan to kill themselves anyways its probably worth a shot you know?

do it OP! Started the day I turned 18 it's a year later now and I'm a cute girl with a loving boyfriend who I'm hugging and snuggling up against while he plays for honor.

>>34920005
People just looking for quickfixes instead of just accepting life like the shit it is but become a doom monster thats fine

>>34919904
It's actually Band of Brothers, a BBC series. It's probably my favorite historical series of all time.

>>34920101
That's kind of cute, is he nice?

>>34920205
he treats me like a child sometimes, mostly in a loving way though. Like wiping my face if I get butter on my face from a danish and such. He can seem kind of distant when he's deep in thought but I just hug him and do nice things for him and his mood changes quickly.

>>34920424
I envy you. Oh well glad you're at least happy.

>>34917041
i suggest you seek help first, a psychologist/therapist and possibly a psychiatrist. only then will you realize what proper decision to make. good luck.

>>34920452
Just don't half ass transitioning especially if it's that important. I think most people could pull it off they just don't know how

>>34920623
What do you mean half ass transition?

>>34917041
OP NOTICE ME SENPAI

I'm in a similar situation but I'm ftm please can we talk? I want anyone to relate to and even on /lgbt/ nobody wants to text me over discord/skype

>>34920645
I'm still here I've just been lurking

Do you have a throwaway?

>>34920643
idk the anorexic people who dress like 50 year old women, and the old people who dress like 23 yo strippers. Just dress your age is what I'm saying. Also work HARD on your voice. Took me a year to get it perfect but I started almost 8 months before HRT so yeah

>>34920715
TELL ME how to train my voice

>>34920661
[email protected]
though I will be gone for about two hours and then back later tonight so stay with me

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>>34917041
Because death is preferable to being an abomination of scalpel and pills
Would you rather die now as a man or kill yourself when your beauty starts to fade and you realize you are a wrinkly old hon,
who is known to his neighbors as that dude who thought he was a girl
If you think it will really make you happy and that you are in a mental state to make rational decision that will effect the rest of your life go for it
Don't expect to become a woman though, people might play lip service to you to save their jobs but you're still a dude and everyone knows it, some people are eager to join your roleplay and call you a girl but you and i both know you're not

Just make up your own mind and be sure it is what you want before committing to it, once you fuck up your body there is no going back

i have no sympathy for you.
oregon trail

>>34917041
Sexually speaking, what are your interests/fetishes? What kind of guys do you like? Old or young? Would appreciate your honest answer :)

>>34920763
You know this pretty much accurately describes how it is. Although I think at least trying to transition before you kill yourself is worthwhile.

>>34917326
Are you attracted to traps? Im straight af but cant deny trap on trap is hot to me

>>34920736
Im not that anon but when I did it I started before hrt too I just looked up transgender voice training on youtube. I only ever watched 2 or 3 videos from this one girl but it was basically pulling your voice shit like adams apple up and back to try and get a good pitch and resonnance. It takes forever to get the vocal cords to where they can be convincing, but it's worth it. You just sound like a fag for the first year or so.

>>34920763
if the islamic republic of iran can accept transgenders and actually encourages homosexuals to have sex changes, then i guess it's alright. that's just my opinion. and there are really, really good looking transgenders. for every 10 people that find it weird, there are another 10 that have absolutely no problem with it. it's irrelevant what strangers think...strangers think retarded things about straight males even. if op's life turns out for the good after transitioning, then that's all that matters. she'll probably have supportive friends too and that's enough.

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>>34917041
Seek psychological help for your gender dysmorphia before you do anything else. Your longing to be feminine is derived from a place of mental illness, now don't take that as an insult because it's not.

You should look at your options before you decide on a permanent solution to a likely temporary problem.

>>34920886
*transitioning is one of the best ways to combat suicide in this situation, there's still people that do commit suicide afterwards, but far less likely to.

>>34920736
When you swallow you can feel your adam's apple pull up, those are the muscles contracting. Essentially you're trying to keep the muscles contracted it lets you talk in a higher pitch and girlier voice without going falsetto. If you have any experience with singing in choir it's infinitely easier. also what >>34920837 said. Also check the trans help general and /mtfg/ cause they have detailed guides.
Here's what I sound like rn
https://clyp.it/dnvxwjob

>>34920915
I've honestly at least thought about being a girl since I was 10 though.

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I wonder if traps are just people who couldn't get laid so their subconsciousness did mental gymnastics to find a way and not be gay (lol)

>Vessel doesn't get sexual satisfaction
>Vessel gets mental issues over it
>Vessel refuses homosexual relations
>Loophole found, make vessel into a woman
>woman + man = not gay = Vessel gets laid
>Convince vessel pills and clothes make them woman
>Vessel is desperate for sexual satisfaction
>Vessel believed it, absolute madwoman
And rest is history

>>34920886
Just saying he still won't be a woman

>>34920963
I'm op and I have had sex with girls, and have been in relationships. So fucking sick of copout bullshit explanations from people who know nothing of gender dysphoria.

For those telling me to get a therapist, I already have one who acknowledges my dysphoria being legitimate.

>>34920963
>Just saying he still won't be a woman
maybe, maybe not. he'll more likely be happy (if after a lot of therapy that's what he wants). and if that is the case, he'll more likely not commit suicide.

>>34921014
How long have you been seeing your therapist?

>>34921042
Good for him, i wouldn't give a single shit unless they were hell bent on making me acknowledge their make believe womanhood
You make me call a man in a dress a woman? ill treat you like shit, fair enough eh?

>>34920948
>every tranny ever has just magically always thought about being a women since they were a child

https://twitter.com/TSNicoleStar/status/831729312621543424

if you can't look at least as good as this as a trans-faggot then you have to kill yourself

>>34921104
> i wouldn't give a single shit unless they were hell bent on making me acknowledge their make believe womanhood

Fucking ignorant normies again

Only liberal idiots who aren't actually trans push this stupid meme. I want you to call me what you see me. If I look like a guy, then you call me a he. If I look like a girl, you call me she. The entire point is to pass, if i have to MAKE you see me as a girl, what's the fucking point of taking hormones, getting laser, doing everything? I could just demend you call me a girl right now, it would be pointless.

>>34921104
you have every right to not call him/her a man/woman. i'm not arguing about that. that's a whole different topic, and i am a strong believer in free speech.

>>34921120
I really have, lots of people say it was when they were less than 10, but around when I was 10 I started wondering what it would be like to be a girl and hang out with girls instead.

>>34917041
I don't give a fuck if you want to see if therapist, take pills, or chop your dick off. As long as you don't use taxpayer money to do so.

Stealing tax dollars because you want to feel pretty while wearing a dress is fucking bullshit.

>>34921166
>I started wondering what it would be like to be a girl and hang out with girls instead
Yeah it's called puberty you fucking idiot.

I'm absolutely and completely right wing.


I think you should take hormones and become a trap. I have nothing against you and i wish you well.

>>34921120
If they hadn't thought about it since they were a child, why would they do it?

Are you really saying there are people who are totally comfortable as the gender they were born as who then FOR NO REASON wake up one day and suddenly have crippling depression and body issues?

You are fucking retarded

>>34921014
Answer this >>34920785 please. I'm really curious. I'm not being a dick or a perv.

>>34921143
Well learn to speak for yourself so the liberals don't make people want to punch your teeth in when they see you, they are not very good at giving you guys PR

>>34921150
Then what is the issue here? if i saw some crazy moron in my neighborhood sewing a piece of rat on his skin it would be none of my business,
i would not care as long as the government doesn't make me acknowledge him as ratkin or something retarded like that at the risk of losing my job

>>34921199
You just want boipucci since all women reject you

>>34921188
Now I know you're just retarded.

>>34921219
>they are not very good at giving you guys PR
Maybe because I go to /pol/ alot but I am 100% convinced that everything the media does that involves trans people is to make normal people hate us.

>learn to speak for yourself
I'm not the anchor on a news network. I don't have a twitter with millions of followers. How will anyone hear my voice? I don't want the spotlight, I just want to live my fucking life and be happy

>>34921217
I'm attracted to feminine women and masculine men, about equally, but for totally different reasons.

>>34917041
most trannies end up killing themselves after they finish up with their horrendous alterations

so might as well do it now you psychotic faggot

>>34921219
>Then what is the issue here?
there's no issue. i was addressing your first post (>>34920763) and i think i answered/replied sufficiently. you made somewhat baseless claims and generalizations about how she'd get treated/perceived, when the opposite can be argued too.

>>34917041
If it's seriously getting that bad, you might as well start now. You'll cave eventually when you get older if you repress. It's better to start sooner than later anyway.

>>34921261
Well speak against the liberals, they made you guys into the leviathan that shall not be questioned at the risk of social isolation and loss of job
No one else can speak for your kind except for your kind, if anyone outside tries to say anything about trans in non-anonymous board the liberals will form a lynch mob faster than you can sneeze
>the media does that involves trans people is to make normal people hate us
They succeeded, i haven't met but 1 of your kind IRL and i already hate you all, he was a moron before his dress up

Transgenders and traps would have been accepted in ancient Greece and in the Roman Empire.

/thread

tranny meme is just a phase what happends when you grow out of it

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>>34921380
Even the Greek and Romans weren't stupid enough to call them women, and in those times women weren't allowed to be actors so the female parts were played by men so no shit

>>34921497
>Even the Greek and Romans weren't stupid enough to call them women

That's because it wasn't a subject that was as explored as it is today, but relative to it's time, it's more than enough. Yay!

>>34921619
No amount of make believe will make you into a woman, you're a self deluding moron if you think you're
Liberals may force me to call you a woman but you aren't a woman, and if they keep pushing more bullshit pronouns and corrupting the truth they will burn

>>34917041
Why do you want to be a girl, how long has it been this way. Transistion is dangerous, I think you first need to realisticly imagine how you'd look like after hormones. Can you deal with the probabilty that you might turn out manly or bad looking. If your wish to be a girl is because of sexual fantasies then transition is a death sentence, HRT will kill your sex drive. It leaves so many people even more depressed. You probably already know how many transgenders kill themselves

>>34921725
I'm not a woman. I just enjoy encounters with transgenders and traps. Great sexual chemistry with them.

>>34921920
>Men know what they want
Well that is not surprise, i wish i were gay so i wouldn't have to deal with women