>be me >British, 23 years old >acquired an energy drink

>why do people hate socialism again

Because the people who made good health choices with their teeth have to pay for your shitty mistakes.

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>>34910849
Do you have, or have ever had, a job anon?

Obvious bait thread.

>why do people hate socialism
Because of punks like you that expect other people to pay for your mistakes, all the whilst you claim its "free stuff". Its not free, its their money, you probably dont have a job or will ever contribute more than you take out, and worry not, a repo man is on his way to reclaim the taxpayers money and take your teeth away.

>>34911071
And when they inevitably develop some kind of health problem, liver failure, cancer etc., then I'll be paying for their treatment.

Now, tell me again why people hate socialism.

>>34911122
Of course I have, I'm employed right now in GIS mapping.

>>34911199
>because of punks like you that expect other people to pay for your mistakes

Uh, I don't think you understand how the system works. Everybody pays into what is essentially a big pot, and then people get to take from that pot when they become sick or ill. It isn't just the poor or unemployed that become sick you know, my taxes also pay for the treatment of the wealthy.

>you probably dont have a job or will ever contribute more than you take out

Actually I work two jobs right now, one in GIS mapping and the other is retail at GAME.

>>34911071
> There never been a fire in my house so we should not have firemen

Rightwing logic, people.

>>34910849
>>acquired an energy drink addiction back when things like Monster and Relentless were first being redistributed
How long you've been drinking that stuff?

>>34911071
But then what's your stance on the infirm and those who became ill due to environmental/genetic factors? If they can't afford it they should just be left to rot on the street right?

You Ameriburgers are so unbelievably brainwashed it's not even funny anymore, it's just sad.

>>34911255
I had a 3 can a day habit for approx. 4-5 years.
It's funny because today my orthodontist was asking if I'd ever whitened my teeth, because he was impressed with how white they were despite the damage I'd inflicted on them.

>>34910849

>ignoring the thousands of people who have to pay to pick up the pieces of your shitty life decisions

>>34911199
>>34911071
And yet people in the UK have to pay less for their healthcare (including the taxes to pay for it) than Americans do. Really makes you think.

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Oh boy, another political thread on /r9k/ that involves nobody with a degree in political science, economics, or has even read a book on the subject.

>>34911287
Why does it matter when I pay taxes myself? You realise that at this moment my taxes are being used to fund the treatment of millions of British peoples? Would you like to know why I don't give a shit? Because you can't build a successful country in the absence of a sense of giving and community, and that's exactly where America went wrong. You're all unbelievably selfish, the types of people that genuinely believe that a person's health should be dictated by the figures in their bank account. It's revolting.

Right-wing media really did a number on you guys in the states didn't it?

>>34911276
Atleast you fixed your teeth free. Interestingly i have cola addiction (about 1 liter per day) but so far i only have yellow teeth and one dead tooth. Too bad it's way too expensive to fix it in my post-commie country.

>>34911345
Don't let the perspective of a bunch of bitter social outcasts influence your view of Americans in general. Most of us realize our healthcare system is completely fucked. Even most Trump supporters only support repealing Obamacare on the condition that it is replaced with something better. Trump hasn't given much information on Trumpcare, but so far he's said that everybody has to be insured, and pre existing conditions have to be covered. IF he sticks to his campaign promises, that will of course lead to some form of people being forced to pool together money to pay for the sick.

>>34911369
I probably don't need to tell you this, but dude don't let yourself end up the way I did and try and quit that shit before the real damage begins, because once it sets in you can't turn back. Sure my mouth is technically 'fixed', but fillings and bridges aren't permanent, I'll be having replacements and maintenance now for the rest of my life. If you need the caffeine that bad wean yourself off your addiction with green tea or caffeine tablets. I wouldn't wish the suffering of what I've endured on even my worst enemy. Dental infections, the pain is something else, the worst I've ever experienced in my life.

>>34911428
Yeah, my bad. I try not to let it taint my view, obviously there's a lot of Brits that hold similar such unsavoury views as lot of American republicans. Sometimes when you encounter this kind of attitude though it's inconceivably maddening. It's an attitude that could only ever come from the kind of person that's lived a lifestyle of privilege and has never understood true hardship or poverty in their life.

>>34910849
>Why do people hate socialism again.

Because I hate you

>>34911430
i know man but addiction is way too strong.

>>34911537
I don't want you to think back to this thread in 3-4 years time when your teeth are little shards jutting out of your gums and you're living with pain every day. It's not the coke you're addicted to, it's the caffeine. You can stop any time man, there are so many substitutes. It's only hard for the first 2 weeks.

>>34910849
Dental service is the only good thing about our healthcare.
Meanwhile my local practise is unwilling to look into my back pain, wrist pain, knee pain and hip pain and just gives me shitty cream. Not to mention it took nearly 6 months of nagging to get a hospital appointment about a UTI.

>>34911230
You can't control a fire starting, but you can control energy drink consumption.

>>34911579
Breh, I was a teenager and energy drinks were like cigarettes when they were first being distributed, nobody had any fucking idea how bad they were for you. That's like turning around to some 50 year old woman riddled with skin cancer and saying "well we know now that sun exposure can lead to cancer so really it's your fault, tough titties lady".

I have to get 10 fillings done later this month.
Radically changed my eating habits upon discovering this.

>>34911071
Holy kek
Yes this is the end all be all of success in a society
A population with healthy teeth

>>34910849
>why do people hate socialism again?

Because people who aren't total failures had to pay for your treatment, you slob.

>>34911859

Nigger I'm working two jobs, I pay my taxes. You ever become a UK national I'll be paying for your gastric kek

>>34911859
>>34911071
>>34911199

Why do American's have this overt aversion to selflessness, generosity and supporting each other? Why do they all have this attitude of "every man for himself, fuck everybody else, they fall on hard times it's 100% their fault and they should never receive help either"?

What was it that went wrong with America when they were developing as a nation? When did this sort of callousness become so acceptable that it's virtually the norm now?

>>34910849

post teeth OP, i wanna see these toothpaste commercial teeth

>Americans would rather pay a Jew high insurance premiums then a bit more in tax for a universal health system.
>Get sick
>Insurance company pays out
>Anon, your premium is going up, it's the business sorry, you're unhealthy

Jesus, burgers are cucked beyond belief by muh capitalism.

>>34910849
>dude I'm a fucking RETARD and did RETARDED things for many years of my life
>like most humans are smart enough to not do what I did
>but then the taxpayer bailed me out to the tune of thousands upon thousands of dollars!
>why doesn't everyone love socialism?!?

You see, it's fuck up degenerates like yourself that LOVE and extol the virtues of socialism. But for people like me who have born the burden of living responsibly for my entire life, never needing tax payer money to bail me out, it's really fucking annoying that I have to pay for dumbasses like you. My money always goes to irresponsible fuck ups. The irresponsible fuck ups NEVER give their money to me. It's fucking annoying.

It's one thing to save the life of someone in a car wreck. It's quite another to give some dumbass who literally rotted the teeth out of his dumbass head through years of stupid decisions that were obviously and blatantly stupid, a whole new mouth on my dime.

>>34912008
lel this faggot believes he's going to go his entire lifespan without experiencing serious illness. God help you you ever fall on hard times and develop cancer Anon.

>>34910849
>Why do people hate socialism again
I hate it because it keeps the poor alive and I want them to die

>>34911916
Socialized healthcare means they have to pay for people with different skin color, religion, and political opinions.

>>34911916
Distrust is a part of out society because we don't have a proper nationality. Any culture we had got diluted into nothing with waves of 19th and 20th century immigrants, and then the civil rights movement had to integrate the blacks, and now there's people from everywhere in the world here that are just as integrated. It's civic nationalism and it means nothing. America is very powerful but there is no true America. It's a big blob of nothing but greed and high population.

>>34912058
And in more homogenous places it works out better. That's the natural order. Once European countries lose their national identities the European prosperous age will be over. It's already ending.

>>34912050
>cancer that is acquired by no overt fault of my own
>rotten teeth by drinking THREE (1.5 liters) of energy drink per day for years

Apples and oranges you fucking cabbage

>>34912008
And yet people live more responsible in "socialist" societies if we judge them by things like obesity rates and other health outcomes. Privatized healthcare means shit like circumcision is promoted for "health" reasons.

>>34912074
Is there any actual proof to this? Being unwilling to implement something doesn't mean it won't work.

>I don't want to pay more tax for a health care system, why on earth would I pay money for someone elses treatment! I might not even use the system.
>I'm more than happy paying a large insurance premium to a private company every year. I don't want to get sick though, who does! But it's nice to pay all that money to know I'm secure.

Please can a burger explain this to me? I'm not baiting here, I just don't understand how you can be so against one and so for the other

>>34911916
>Why do American's have this overt aversion to selflessness, generosity and supporting each other?
Too much diversity. Humans only naturally want to help people who are like themselves. This is why you see such orderly behavior after natural disasters in low diversity countries like Japan.

>>34911916
Because other peoples hands dont belong in my fucking pockets. It's called personal responsibility, somethin you faggots run from as evidenced by OP. Rightly he shoulda been fucked for his mistakes, but because of the insane tax rates imposed where the rich don't even give back a remote fraction of what you're paying them DIRECTLY for your flawed system, he gets a free ride for being a piece of shit.

Socialistic systems weaken people. Your countries being overrun by mudslimes and braindead fags like OP are proof enough of this.

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>>34910849

Because people had to PAY for that treatment you fucking cunt. It didn't fall out of the ass of god.

I, too, am thankful that we have the NHS but people should have to pay deductables on shit likes this. Have you got ANY IDEA how many people are choking up the NHS with fat-ass related diseases. How many fucking mouth-breathers are smoking and drinking their way on to the wards after shitting up their pre-paid council estates were they pop out criminal fucking children because they can't be fucked parenting them?

This is what "free shit" does to people. It turns them into fucking trash. Why would the same principle that makes spoilt little brats on "my super sweet sixteenth" not also apply to the pleb classes? A lot of the, LIKE FUCKING YOU, are happy just with some cheap palliative that is fucking murdering their health - and they know it - but hey, fuck it, got me muhh NHS. The people who originally founded it must be turning in their graves, given that all they were asking for was treatment for the kind of industrial accidents that routinely wrecked the working class back then. As a britfag your post makes me fucking sick. THERE WILL NEVER BE ENOUGH MONEY TO MANAGE THE SHIT LIFE DECISIONS THAT CUNTS LIKE YOU MAKE, nor any incentive to change them until you have to pay a fucking price.

Every year, billions of fucking pound, tens of billions, hundreds of billions of pounds is paid out by the likes of fucking mechanics, road-workers etc so people can go to uni to do creative writing and stupid pieces of shit like you can have tens of thousands of pounds of treatment for entirely preventable health conditions and for THIS I have to work until I'm fucking seventy.

Fuck you.

>>34912100

So because of a stupid mistake I made repeatedly when I was a child I deserve to suffer in agony for the rest of my life?
So if a builder develops cancer from working to clear out an asbestos-filled building, what, you leave him to die because he knew the risks?
How about an old woman who gets lung cancer later on in life from a life of smoking back, because back in the old days cigarettes were touted as beneficial to your health?
How about the man on the motorcycle who wasn't paying full attention at an intersection, he's tired from working all night, clips the side of a car and is thrown and severs his 3rd vertebrae, leave him to die in the ditch because it was his own fault?
Today in the UK a tree surgeon died. He was coppicing a tree on a job, but he slipped and sliced his own throat open with his chainsaw. Should our emergency services have not tried to save him? Just left him bleeding out in a pool of his own blood? I mean, he's a tree surgeon, he should have known what he was doing.

Where do you draw the line exactly Anon?

>>34912646
>because other peoples hands dont belong in my fucking pockets

So, you're completely opposed to the concept of paying a small amount into a national pot of money to be used in the treatment of your nation's peoples of which includes yourself should you take ill, but you don't mind individually paying enormous premiums to a corporation for the sake of your sole healthcare in the EVENT that might became ill? And even then the insurance won't even cover all the fees?

Americans are so economically and socially cucked it's unreal.

>>34912718

Also, to all the cucks, largely ameri-cucks I think I smell, who are "Hurr durr, so now I dont want fire stattions etc" allow me to plunge yourt fucking shit in

>Hurr durr so u dont want fire or police
- No. How is an argument about responsability an argument against a common fire service? Someone's burning shit can set MY shit on fire despite whatever I do, so its a common problem that is NOT subject to incentives. See the difference, dickhead? Also, YOU DO HAVE TO PAY FOR FIRE RELATED MISTAKES. If you burn your fucking house down without insurance nobody is obliged to buy you a another fucking one. We will, out of the goodness of our hearts, give you a council house (if you dont get cucked out of it by immigrants) now kiss my fucking tax-paying feet.

>Hurr durr people don't choose to have unhealthy lifestyles|
Fuck off.

>berrp derp if capitalisom just gave up der trillions of bux it would be fine
Let us assume, for the sake of argument, that tere are 100 monopoloy-man-looking-motherfuckers with literally trillions hidden somewhere (there are not. Most of the money held by companies is nominal business cost when sold - not possible to liquidate all of them simultatneously - or its divvied up to sharholders, where it mostly pays pensions) there would still not be sufficient funds for even 10% of the population to life the life of "Iol, I'll do whatever I like.

In short: Shameless parasites OUT. Legitimate "I didn't try to fuck up" people ok.

t.ex labour voter.

>>34912718
That's nice and all Anon but as an individual I neither smoke nor drink, I don't take drugs, I'm not obese and I work two jobs. I rarely attend my GP's because I don't like to place a burden on the waiting lists, and when I was knocked over by a taxi last year I declined being taken for hospital because I knew it wasn't major. I didn't even try to bring punitive damages against the driver because I recognised it was an accident.

The fact that you think that I deserve to exist in agony for the rest of my life on account of an ignorant decision I made as a child at a time when nobody knew any better is completely twisted. Of course I'm sure it'll be completely different when you inevitably fuck up and require the services of the NHS, because you're a 'special' case right?

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>>34912726

You utter shit. The BUILDER was doing something USEFUL.

YOU DESERVE TO HAVE TO PAY THAT FUCKING BILL OFF.

You openly admit that you knew it was fucking destroying your teeth but you carried on anyway. I got one filling from drinking way too much coke and stopped drinking it altogether and I PAID FOR MY FUCKING FILLING. Because people like you will never pay for yours.

All your other fucking examples people being hurt are people DOING SHIT AND ADDING TO COLLECTIVE WEALTH.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE STOP TURNING ME INTO A FUCKING NAZI.

>>34912856
>the BUILDER was doing something USEFUL
And I'm not doing anything useful with my two jobs?

>you openly admit that you knew it was fucking destroying your teeth
Where did I state that?

Way to dodge my other examples tho :^)

>>34912827

You didn't make "one" ignorant decision you stupid cunt. You carried on making it EVER DAY.

And yeah, I use the NHS. Difference is, I fucking payed into it for 8 years and haven't had 100,000 pounds of facework done.

You're going to keep slipping and sliding around the point but I will nail you to it you fucking nigger.

1) You fucked up repeatedly
2) You didn't do it actually doing anything for anyone
3) You're not ashamed of it
4) You're no different from the "Its costing us 500 pounds to keep you on this ward, fatty" - "I don't know why he's telling me that, I like chips" fucking image.

Your responsability. Your smug absorbtion of my taxes. Your shit tier family and self dicscipline that couldn't sort your shit out

And you don't think you should pay a penny for this.

Fucking faggot man. Keep bragging about it and watch how quickly T.May stumps your "free" nhs. I am fucking GAGGING for the day when we start making people who deliberately fuck themselves up pay premiums on treatment.

>>34912939

>you carried on making it EVER DAY
Yep, a decision I made as a child. There are age of responsibility laws for a reason you know.

>and yeah, I use the NHS.
Oh I see lmao, this is the part where you tell me how it's totally different

>difference is
KEK

>I fucking payed into it for 8 years
And I've paid into it for 10. Cheque Mait.

>and haven't had 100,000 pounds of facework done
2-x-rays, one dental mold, 3 extractions, 11 fillings, braces and a retainer all carried out at a student teaching hospital do not cost 100,000 of pounds you dumb faggot.

>your smug absorbtion of my taxes
Wait so whenever you used the NHS that wasn't an absorption of the taxes I've paid over the last decade? Explain to me again how you're 'special'

>and you don't think you should pay a penny for this
I already have. They're called 'taxes', that thing we're already talking about.

>>34910849
That isn't socialism. That's the NHS.

>>34912856
>you
>a nazi

natSOCs are collectivist
I do not want you in my socialist movement

>>34913072
You understand that a National Health Service is a socialist construct?

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>>34913043

You wouldn't know how much it cost you fucking nigger because you didn't pay for a penny of it. Look up the cost of that described work. One filling costs about about a hundred quid.

The argument is simple. The NHS isn't there to provide infinity free care for PREVENTABLE fucking health fuck ups like you. That's how we've ended up with people dying, waiting on operations, despite dumping one quarter of government revenue into the fucking thing.

I don't know why I'm arguing with you. The conservatives are going to be in for the next 8 years and this shit is going to be straightened out to MY satisfaction, not yours.

Ayyyyyyy. Just a shame the turn of the wheel missed you out. :) Imma get the next set of fucking parasites though *little clown face smiley* >:)

Maybe we can even start sidling up on the idea of sterilizing people who choose to have kids on the dole :). Like your parents.

>>34913136
>THE NHS
>THE NHS

Why do you keep talking about the NHS, this has nothing to do with the NHS. I got all of this work carried out at a student teaching hospital which is adjoined with my university. I stated this in my very first post.
Students did all the work as practice, overseen by senior dentists. Are you now going to tell me that my university is funded by the NHS?

>like your parents
My mother is a linguist/translator and my father is regional manager of a certain chain of supermarkets, but okay lol
Your unbridled saltiness is giving me life Anon, don't stop :D

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>>34910849
Cause I'm not alright with entrusting the total sum of my taxes goes to the places promised by the ones who divvy up the collection, you socialist piece of shit. Even if I'm promised by some half white fag who can read a teleprompter.

>>34912718
>This is what "free shit" does to people. It turns them into fucking trash.
America doesn't have this free shit and we're way bigger fatasses than you.

>>34912897
Getting hurt WHILE DOING A JOB and hurting yourself passively for years on your own free time through choices no one but yourself compelled you to make are two VERY different things.

You deserve consequences and you have found none. You should have hit the pavement and learned from your mistakes. You DESERVE the consequences of a fucked up mouth and you DESERVE the burden of paying to fix your mistakes because they're YOUR mistakes. You own them. You should have to pay off the debt of your mistakes yourself. Instead, decent, hard-working people who would never be as stupid as you are paying your debts off for you.

And you have the fucking audacity to act as if you were entitled to this.

> I PAY FOR NHS
> I PAY FOR HEALTHCARE

No you don't. The government does.

> B-BUT ITS MY TAX MONEY

Wait, when you pay someone, do you consider that money to still be yours? In that case, your "own" money isnt even yours, since you got it from a job or whatever.

Why are rightwingers so stupid? Why can't they understand the concept of a global budget? Why do they always simplify everything to retarded shit like "I paid for these braces", or "I paid for that guy neetbux" when they know its all wrong? Why are they focusing on one thing, when the taxes are about thousands of things, making the contribution of a single person to any healthcare anecdotic? What kind of bitch faggot do you have to be to refuse to contribute to a system you're abusing? A system that guarantees your safety, your education, and your health?

>>34913708
You just know this guy is a disgusting fat slob of a NEET.

>>34913563
This post exemplifies everything fucked up with Americans and their shitty, garbage excuse of a country.

>>34913708
When you pay someone, it's usually in exchange for something. You'd have to be chronically moronic to think you pay taxes for no reason. You get it in exchange for the various services the system provides.

Why you're surprised people are mad that people who don't PAY and probably will never pay (see shitneets, niggers and full time professional mothers) into said system get the same benefits also baffles me.

>>34913708
This is so classic. Someone who is so far up his own ass he thinks everyone he disagrees with him is simply too stupid to grasp the concept. Because surely if you did, you'd have the exact same opinion as the guy, right? It's impossible to consider that healthcare ought not be guaranteed if you're an intelligent person like yourself, right?

>>34910849
post pics of your teeth????

>>34911916

Forcing others to pay for your easily avoidable health problems isn't selflessness. Cancer is a different story.

>>34911579
>you can't control a fire starting

t. a dumb cuck who left their stove on

socialism is good.

>>34914821
>forcing

You mean kind of like how your health insurance corporations hold you to ransom?

>>34911199
He's over 18, he would have had to.pay for it.