>dude weed isn't addictive >go half a day without

there's a difference between being addictive and dependency

>>34894901
lmfao, fuck you faggot

go shoot some fucking heroin

lmfao /teen/

In my experience weed is hard to go without only after you first run out, it gets easier once you accept that the well is dry. Weed always finds a way to show up in your life eventually.

>>34894901
Isn't everything you like addictive, because dopamine is addictive, or some shit like that?

>>34894999
ye, but some things are less addictive than others. In a sense, we're all addicted to life.

>>34894999
psychologically, not physiologically.

>>34894917
>he fell for the "you can't be physically dependant on weed" meme

Get back to me when you've had horrible night sweats and stomach cramps for a week straight after quitting weed

>>34894901
that's not addiction that's just being mad bc you don't have something you like/your routine got fucked (not to say people can't become psychologically addicted)

I smoke daily and when I run out yeah, I'm mad/upset at first but after an hour or so I'm good, and could go forever without it.

>>34895104
I doubt that was due to the weed.
I've never heard of anything like that happening and I've looked pretty extensively into weed and how it affects us

>>34895137
Dawg, I highly doubt that you did as those withdrawal symptoms are commonplace for heavy users. First result on Google,
https://www.marijuana-anonymous.org/literature/pamphlets/detoxing-from-marijuana

>>34895137
op is not the first person to claim having felt symptoms like that after quitting weed.

i can personally attest to the fact that ever since i became a regular smoker, ive had permanent brainfog. it doesnt matter if i dont smoke for 8 months, it will still feel like i smoked a ton the day before.

theres a lot we dont know about weed and its effects on different people.

>>34895238
Just to clarify, I'm not actually OP, but yeah same man. I become so faded all day even though I only smoke at night, it makes me even more socially retarded than I already am as well.

Looking to quit (again..) in the next few weeks, but I gotta muster up some courage to ask my family for help, because I can't do this shit on my own.

Good luck to you brother, may we prevail someday

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>>34894901
>getting high and playing video games is literally the most fun I've ever had consistently
>trying to wagecuck, and mr shekelstein cares about my piss
fuck this stupid planet

>>34894901
Its all in your head, you weak-willed fuck. There is nothing physically addictive in pot, you just don't have the will power to deal with life without getting baked.

>>34894901
I too am weed addict OP

Idiots will deny it exists. Im more addicted to weed then I am heroin and meth

>>34895296
be strong, youre probably more and more dull minded with every toke.

>>34894901

WEEDFAGS BTFO

Explain this, weedcucks

>>34895238
I've never felt addicted to weed, but I agree that there are definitely a lot of negatives people don't like to talk about

For one, it greatly increased my anxiety, to the point that I finally quite altogether because it was to the point I actually felt WORSE on weed than sober. And the brainfog was real af, didn't clear up for about a year. And I've seen other people mention the anxiety issue and brainfog to, so similarly I have no doubt the addiction is real for some people.

>>34895238
>a lot we don't know
Exactly. I'm not trying to be a dick or even condescending I just. genuinely hadn't heard of cases like that

>start smoking weed and drinking after I turn 21
>gain 50 pounds
shit

>>34894901

it's psychologically addicting anon not physically.

You can quit cold turkey and have effects no worse than quitting caffeine; unlike quitting booze or benzos cold turkey that can kill you.

>>34894901
I never got addicted to cigs or alcohol but if I don't have weed it gets DARK

>>34895733

All mind altering substances or anything that craps out dopamine really if used/done habitually can form an addiction.

dunno bout you but ive been smoking weed a lot for the past 2 years and have smoked every single day for the past 2 weeks and havent smoked at all today and i havent even thought about it until you mentioned it

dont get how people are addicted to weed. i usually take a break every few weeks and its not even a tolerance break, its just cause i dont really feel like doing it

>>34896368
Yeah but weed fucking sucks at crapping out dopamine and makes you anxious and overthink

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>>34894901
>This kid doesn't understand the difference between habit forming and chemically addictive.
If you get addicted to weed, that's your own weak will.

>>34895200
Lol what the fuck

i have never had this and ive stopped smoking multiple times for long periods

>>34896558
Sure you did, kiddo

>>34895351
Man why doesnt this happen to me

I have to be high AND drunk to enjoy myself on weed

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>>34895351

>live in Maine
>recreational laws
>get informed by boss he is removing thc from annual random piss tests

I used to know that feel, but no more. Thanks liberals you are good for things on occasion.

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>>34896734
Happy for you senpai. Maine seems nice. I live in Texas so I'm fucked 100%.

>>34894901
>Yeah but cigarettes are so addictive even though I quit those mhmm
>can quit something that's literally addictive
>can't quit something that's all psychological dependency

mhmm

I have multiple grams of wax in my room and I haven't smoked in weeks
week willed faggots

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>>34896764

We just got our laws this January and we still can't buy from stores until 2018.

It passed by a fraction of a percent, so if it can happen here I'm sure it can happen for you too anon.

Weed is literally the shittiest drug imaginable. You're only "addicted" to it because you have no idea how else to pass the time

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>>34896885
great post my man, wanna take a hit of this jenkem?

>>34894965
This whole board is fucked (now).

My life is emptier than ever, and even I haven't lurked on this board in months, let alone posted.

r9k is fucking DEAD, and anyone who believes otherwise is deeply hung up in the past, basically.

>>34894901
Okay.
Firstly, you're stupid. You could not have been that addicted to cigarettes if you were able to give them up at the drop of a hat without experiencing at least moderate if not acute withdrawal symptoms.

You were a social smoker.

The first time I "quit" I didn't experience any noticeable w/d's, even after two and a half years of regular smoking.

When I picked it up again, a year and a half later, I thought I could dabble in it as I did previously without becoming horribly addicted - I was wrong. I still smoke today, despite numerous attempts to quit (lengthy too, roughly 2-3 weeks max total).

>Weed
It might relieve your anxieties, to the degree where you're noticeably more restless without having had it. But honestly, unless you were like I used to be and essentially smoked the majority of the day away, you're unlikely to experience any physical symptoms of cessation (I'm reluctant to even call them "withdrawals").

Psychological dependency? Yeah, sure. Not a big deal. It isn't hard to stop smoking weed, people often just don't see the incentive when they're dazed by the smoke.

If you want some idea of how bad withdrawals can get: try messing with oxycodone along with fentanyl on a regular basis.

:^)

I haven't smoked weed in a while and I don't even feel like.

But I need to. I've been too bipolar lately and I need to chill the fuck out. I wish there was something else that helped me unfuck my mind cause buying weed is a pain.

>>34896885

>stop liking things I don't like

I agree with the second part tho

>>34895238
>tfw too much of a brainlet to notice fog

>>34894901
Weed isn't the problem.
You have little self control and principals.
You are the weed.

>>34894901
If you're such a poorfag that you have to smoke ashes instead of just getting more weed, you should probably quit weed.

Weed is not addictive really.

When I run out of weed obviously I want more. But it's not like when I haven't smoked a cigarette in 30 minutes and start bouncing off the walls.

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>>34896308
I quit benzos cold turkey after almost 6 years of 6-10mg daily of xanax, 6-14mg ativan/klonopin (switched around a number of times) around 7 months ago.
I'm getting better but I'll never heal fully, I can't imagine I will anyway.
It didn't kill me but sometimes I wish it did

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>lol muh psychological dependency it's diffewent!
Pretentious pseudo intellectual weedcucks. Op back about to smoke some ground up stems from an ashtray.
>it's not an addiction it's a dependancy my dealer totally made that distinction when I started feeling like shit not being high lmao!!!

>>34897432

Nice bait, do you drink coffee and get headaches or feel very lethargic when you don't drink it for a long amount of time?

>>34897432
Has it occurred to you that maybe you have a condition that is helped by smoking, and you should talk to a doctor?

>>34894901
P U S S Y
U
S
S
Y
For real man, pull yourself together.

>>34894901
Completely agree. I quit smoking cigarettes pretty easily but weed took me years of trying. Hell I'm thinking of getting back into it now that I broke up with my gf

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>>34895104
The physical symptoms are purely psychosomatic, bud.

You did it to yourself by getting yourself worked up into a state over not having weed because you're psychologically dependent on it, not because it's physically addictive.

>>34897471
Yes, it's called being a robot and I need a prescription of the finest medicinal marijuana and a six figure neetbux salary.

>>34895104
I've had the night sweats and insanely vivid dreams (sometimes good, sometimes nightmares where I would wake up to find I punched my wall or bed) after quitting. Loss of appetite and lots of anger and irritability were also present.

>>34894999
Yeah, basically.

If it's enjoyable, it has addictive potential, no matter what it is.

>>34897525
Can't you get pills through health insurance?
THANKS OBAMA

>>34896558
How much were you smoking?

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>smoke weed
>sleep insantly, no dreams
>stop because of mr shekelstein
>can't sleep
>dream about ex girlfriend all the time
kill me

>>34896945
(Not OP)

I smoked about 5-10 a day for 2 years and quit using a vape pretty easily. Withdrawal was kinda bad, but not that noticible. Weed on the other hand was very hard. I would get very depressed and angry while off of it, my appetite would go away, my fingers would shake, have trouble sleeping, and have night sweats and weird dreams when I did sleep.

>>34897432
>Pretentious pseudo intellectual weedcucks
Half the people saying it's a dependency and not an addiction are pretty much calling OP pathetic for psychologically imposing physical symptoms of withdrawal over the lack of something that can't cause a physical addiction.

It's not weedcucks trying to rationalize their bullshit.

>>34897541
The vivid dreams are fucking intense, that's for sure.
One of the times I tried to quit I almost punched random strangers on the street multiple times. I was actually afraid of going out in fear of tarding out on some poor fella. Not pleasant at all.

I actually didn't mind the loss of appetite as I was kinda anorexic back then too lol.

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>>34896331
Same. Nicotine and alcohol never interested me, but without weed I just go to bed when I get home instead of innernette/vidjya/netflix/animaymay.

>>34897586
>can't sleep
>dream about ex
??

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>>34897660
It *is* weedcucks trying to rationalize their bullshit though. They're all just:
>tfw to intelligent to quit smoking

>>34897541
>>34897689

What the hell??? Its just weed faggots.

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>>34896472
>its just cause i dont really feel like doing it

I never get this, addicts in general never get to this point with anything, we always want more and it's never enough. We lack that particular OFF switch in our brains.

>>34897541
I never have good post-weed dreams. They're always either terrifying or depressing. Mind you I never have nice dreams in general, but how vivid they are is nuts.

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>>34894901
Weed is gay af

>>34897704
even insomniacs sleep some times anon

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>>34897384
>I quit benzos cold turkey after almost 6 years of 6-10mg daily of xanax, 6-14mg ativan/klonopin (switched around a number of times) around 7 months ago.

Well done, quitting opiates is just about the hardest thing anyone can ever do. Seriously, you're the outlier on that one, don't fuck it up.

>>34897745
the off switch is generally running out of
drugs, money, options, friends, health
some combination of most or all of those things

>>34897726
The vivid dreams thing is real. It's a well documented scientific fact that smoking weed hinders your ability to dream, and when it starts coming back the dreams seem incredibly vivid.

>>34897763
but then he worded it wrong.

>>34897812
bullshit, when I smoke I dream up crazy shit

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>>34897541
I smoke daily for years but go cold turkey for a few days here and there and never experience any of this shit because it's not a physically addictive substance you're either a bunch of lying faggots or just insanely neurotic.

>>34897814
muh tism

>>34897793
Not opiates but still hell, thank you.
In the before-time, when I thought I was "an addict" but before I really knew what that meant, I never got the whole "you're an addict for life" meme
Now I get it...
I never want to get these things by the time I do.

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>>34894901
>smoked weed daily, sometimes twice a day every day for 3 straight months over the summer
>quit smoking weed when school started again completely cold turkey
>had no problem at all quitting and felt great
nah youre just weak willed. there is no chemical dependency from cannabis. this is like saying cake is addictive because you're a fat fuck who can't stop eating it

>>34897832
It has been studied and documented that this is how it works you fucking mongoloid.

>>34897854
Cake can be addictive though. The body can become physically addicted to sugar and salt which is more than a pot smoker can say.

>>34897913
>cake is addictive
>weed isn't
4chan in current year of our lord + 2017

>>34897832
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/why-are-your-dreams-suddenly-so-intense-when-you-stop-smoking-weed-876
http://www.leafscience.com/2014/09/13/marijuana-rem-sleep-dreams/
http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2016/10/why-your-dreams-go-crazy-when-you-stop-smoking-weed.html
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-teenage-mind/200906/marijuana-sleep-and-dreams

It might be different for you personally, a lot of my friends also say they have vivid dreams when they smoke. But for the most part this is the case.

>>34897851
At least I'm not retarded and get addicted to weed kek

>>34897934
He's right but.

Sugar actually is physically addictive. If it's a sugar-free cake then you're safe tho.

>>34897913
I still dream better by smoking weed so you're wrong, faggot.

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>he believes in the addiction myth

What do other robots with autism think of weed?

Would you agree that it makes you even more autistic?

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>>34897984
>>34897965
Why are you the way that you are?
What makes you think the wrong way that you think?
Will you ever be happy?

>>34897934
Can you read friendo? Or are you too high?

The body can become physically addicted to sugar and salt in the same manner that someone is addicted to cigarettes or hard drugs, while there's no physically addicting part of smoking pot.

>>34898004
The opposite. I smoked every night for a year and became a completely different person. For a solid three months I was a completely functional human being.

If I'm high around other people I'm twice as autistic as normal, though. It only helps me once it wears off.

>>34898012
>What makes you think the wrong way that you think?
Well it's true isn't it? According to all science sugar=physical dependency building, weed=not physical dependency building.

>Will you ever be happy?
No.

>>34894901
Smoked weed heavily for a year. I got a job so I stopped. Haven't smoked in a year.

>>34897802
Well yeah, and that sucks.

Non-addicts don't get to that point because they aren't compulsively driven to it.

>>34898046
I find it makes me very autistic.

When I smoke alone all I want to do is play GSG's and listen to the same songs over and over. And when I smoke with people I either don't talk or can't talk without spilling spaghetti.

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>>34897853
>addict for life

Yes, our neural pathways predispose us towards addictive compulsive behaviours, and it never goes away and needs to be guarded against for life.

>>34898109
>And when I smoke with people I either don't talk or can't talk without spilling spaghetti.
this. with other drugs i'll have reduced inhibitions so i'll talk stupid shit but i won't care and people typically don't mind me saying odd things if i do so confidently. with weed though i actually get more self-critical and anxious. i honestly don't know why i even smoke it. better than being sober i suppose.

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>>34897934
This is either 9/10 bait or you're just stupid because he's completely correct?

>>34898162
It's not even that I'm self critical or anxious. It's just that I feel like I don't want to talk to other people. I just want to watch them.

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Addiction is a very personal think in my experience. It depends on the person. I have no problem at all quitting smoking or quitting weed but it's hard as fuck for me to stop drinking.

Like, I'm literally having to get liver scans and shit because it's that bad.

>>34898162
>>34898177
>>34898109
I actually only get autistic when I smoke by myself. I think too much about shit or get kinda tense. When I'm with some close friends I feel super comfortable and relaxed. Talking and listening to people while I'm high feels way better than talking and listening to people while I'm sober.

I smoke weed daily and still never crave or have any withdraws past the first day when I quit.

You might feel grumpy because your cutting out a routine mental escape from reality, but its only in your head.

>>34898109
>when I smoke with people I either don't talk or can't talk without spilling spaghetti.
Same, but when I smoke alone I get all introspective and come up with creative solutions for my problems and my dysfunctional emotions. It helps that I live in a fourteenth floor so listening to music while smoking and staring outside gives an atmosphere that enhances introspective thought.

4chan is literally harder to quit than weed.
I could quit smoking weed right now and never look back if I wanted to.
I've tried and failed to quit 4chan many times. I cannot cope without my daily dose of memes and banter.

I've smoked on and off for the last 12 years. Started when I was 13, everything from once av month to maybe 15 joints av month. From 17 and until I was 22 I smoked between 2-4 grams a day, with maybe 10-25 days av year i didnt smoke. Probably used at least 500 000 NOK on it. Except for the money I have never had any regrets. I can go 2 months without Even wanting to smoke, or jump right back in and smoke 20-100+ grams in a month. Never felt any physical distress when not smoking. Sometimes it takes longer to fall asleep, but thats it. Not saying my mates never had problems tho. But all in all I guess its different for everyone.

>>34894901
>weed is addictive

try kicking opiates you weak pussy.

>>34898373
>2-4 grams a day
>15 joints a month
>NOK
Why don't you just roll spliffs like the other yuropoors?

>>34894901

I used to be like that, fiending for weed when I didn't have any, scraping resin etc.

Pretty pathetic behavior that only reflects someone who gets anxious when they can't have what they want. You aren't physically addicted, you just get nervous and anxious about not having any because you rely on it too much for pleasure. Once you realize that it just makes you stupid and lazy and you won't want to have anything to do with it

>>34898492
Friend. The joint estimate was when I just started. The 100+ grams a month was from 16-17 years age andre up until two years ago. I do not exclusively smoke joints either, but typing on a smartphone with av Norwegian autocorrect made me lazy. But by spliffs i assume you mean weed mixed with tobacco?

Also; I am an oilbjorn. Not poor nigga

>>34898817
Yes that's what I mean.

>Also; I am an oilbjorn. Not poor nigga
Yeah but even the rich stoners I know exclusively roll spliffs. The only people I know who roll blunts (as in just pure weed) as anything other than an occasional indulgence with friends are 40 year old veteran dealers.

I just want a comfy weed smoking bf.
It is difficult to find one because if you outwardly seek one, you will only find DUDEWEEDLMAO xD vape life rasta culture fags.
I just want somebody who likes to stay in and smoke weed to get comfy. We would watch movies or play vidya while couch locked.
I would make us weird snacks. Then we would spoon while napping under 500 blankets.

>>34898890
Well, I am not as hardened as I used to be. Now I mostly smoke splifs, but I used to live with two rich bros for 3 years, who smoked just as much as me, so I was literally stoned out of my mind for maybe 300 days without one single day off, then one or two days sober and then everything from 30 days to 6 months high again. Rince and repeat for Five years and you have spent a lot of money. In Norway weed is expensive as shit. If you're not almost directly tied to import we're talking ca 20dollars per gram (in Oslo which has the lowest prices). Combine that with living with two other rich neet stoners and you have plenty of grams to burn

>>34898990
Country?

I am an extremely mild-mannered inoffensive guy who likes to smoke a nice bit of weed with a cup of tea and a good game.

>>34899030
>20 dollars a gram
US dollars?

>>34899099
Yeah dude. It's probably more if you buy streetbags. Normal price between "friend dealers" is 150_180 NOK depending om quality. 1 USD = 8 NOK +/- 0,3 NOK depending on how much the vikingOil is Worth that day

>>34899175
That's an absolute ripoff.

Here in Northern Ireland it's like 12 dollars per 0.8 grams or 12 dollars per gram if the dealer is your mate. I'm amazed that weed is cheaper in this shithole than in Oslo.

>>34899099
>>34899175
But just to clarify the average yearly income in Norway (before taxes) is 530 000 NOK which I guess would be somewhere around 65-70 k USD, so everything is probably expensive here compared to other countries. Remember that we are socialist-democrat and have taxes on everything. One sixpack of cheap beer at the store is 20 bucks. 2 beers at an average pub is 16 bucks at the very least. Life as commies man.

>>34894901

weed isn't physically addictive, but it is psychologically addictive

>>34899296
That's fucking ridiculous.

I was in Denmark a while ago and was impressed by how cheap the drink and ciggies were, but I was too retarded to go to Christiania for some grass. I assumed Norway would have been the same.

>>34899175
Du har faen ikke bra venner ass

>>34899386
Mener ikke mine direkte venner. Snakker heller om dealere man er vennlige med, som er norske, kontra Casey fra Ghana paa hjOrnet i Karl Johan. Alle som lever av aa deale maa jo ha profitt. Om jeg derimot handler av mine egne venner kan man jo faa for samme pris som dem. Problemet mitt er at jeg vil ikke gaa direkte til importOrer da jeg har gjort det en gang og havnet i en situasjon jeg synes var svaert ubehagelig, men da fikk vi ogsaa tilbud om en kg for 30kr/g, noe som selvfOlgelig ville blitt svaert Okonomisk i lengden. Men jeg vil heller ha flere mellomledd og distansere meg fra de folka

>>34899336
Denmark is a Nice country. In Norway its actually a proverb "its Nice to be Norwegian in denmark" due to low prices and stuff

>>34899386
Om du derimot fikser bedre avtaler i Oslo og omegn, da kan vi snakke

>>34895200

hahahha I actually go to MA meetings, district 5 bitches. I have a treasury commitment and have been known to spend that money on weed when I have a clandestine relapse.

Weed gave me derealization.

>>34899072
Canada! Sorry for the late reply.