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Is /pol/ killing or saving 4chan? I don't have a problem

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Is /pol/ killing or saving 4chan?

I don't have a problem with /pol/ as a board or their political views, but where I do have a problem is when I'm on some other board talking about stupid shit and I get called a cuck and people start spouting /pol/ memes and things get political. Why do they spill into every other board? And nowhere is this more apparent then on /r9k/ itself.

On the other hand they've grown so large with the latest election that they've surpassed /b/ as the new face of 4chan. Now that /b/ is terrible, it's become the new notorious board thats always getting exposure in the media. Its shaping 4chan's image from the old 'hacker activist' associated with old /b/ to alt-right nazis.

Is this kind of exposure good? Does /pol/ have too much influence on this site? I dont know man.
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>>34870206
Fuck off

C U C K
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>>34870206
>Is this kind of exposure good?
Are you a nazi? By answering that, you answer your own question.
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Hmmm idk
i really dont know
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/pol/ is a fucking joke. The hewillnotdivideus stream proved that it's full of normalfags trying to be edgy
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>>34870206
>the old 'hacker activist' associated with old /b/
You were always a bunch of righteous faggots.
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>>34870206
It's destroying 4chan. Not because of their political views, but because their goal is getting attention. This results in spilling to other boards and a flood of normie newfags from media exposure and """political activism""" (shitty raids).
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>>34870359
overweight neckbeard in Walmart clothing detected
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>>34870206
it's literally the single biggest attractor of normalfags and underage idiots to this site

regardless of your political views you should not want /pol/ here
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>>34870206
/pol/ is my homeboard and am also a fashy goy, but I hate when I'm browsing here and I see shit that shouldn't be here, its like people just ignore the fact that different boards are for different topics and start spewing autism everywhere
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>>34870206
/pol/ can burn in hell for popularizing cuck in the first place. It completely shifted the tone of this entire website.
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>>34870206
They're a big reason why people go on 4chan in the first place.

Having said that, they should keep their cancer on their containment board. But, like cancers, they are a malignant tumor that spreads everywhere. They're responsible for dividing us robots who are black, gay or whatever they deem as "untermensch".

/r9k/ is supposed to be a brotherhood for all FA robots. Fuck /pol/, they should keep to themselves.
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>>34870672
Thats why I compared them to /b/.

/b/ used to be the gateway board for 4chan, people would come to this website specifically for /b/. But that role has since gone to /pol/ and now we're getting an entirely different type of newfag coming through the gateway into 4chan.
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>>34870788
>pol
It baffles me that anyone would come to 4chan just for /pol/. I never go there but I just took a brief skim through the catalog and there isn't a single thread that I would want to participate in.
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>>34870206
It needs to go. I'm finding it harder and harder to believe most of the content there is a joke, supposed to be ironic in some way, or le funny memes. /pol/ has become a younger man's Stormfront and those idiots are seeping into every other board now like a rancid leak.
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>>34870546
You do realize cuck started as a prank right.
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>>34870887
What started as a joke snowballed into people (mostly impressionable teens) unironically believing /pol/.

>There's probably actually people who actually think the Bogdonoffs are ascendant beings controlling the universe because of /pol/ memes
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>>34871094
Doesn't matter at this point. That "meme" hit the entirety of 4chan like a nuclear bomb.
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>>34871161
How long ago was it when they played that audio on /pol/?

Because that just cemented the meme.
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I think it started as a joke, but eventually real stupid people came and thought that they are in good company.
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>>34870206
I think there is a resurgence of anti-polism because at this point in time 4chan has not yet learned to be multicultural. And I think we are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. 4chan is not going to be the monolithic website it was once was in the last century. pol will be at the centre of that. It's a huge transformation for 4chan to make. It is now going into a multicultural mode and pol will be resented because of its leading role. But without that leading role and without that transformation, 4chan will not survive.
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>>34871281
except the entire world is swing back towards the right, because multiculturalism is failing and the progressives refuse to admit it, and continue to try and ram it down everyone's throat even though it's turning the 1st world into the 3rd world.
It's multiculturalism that is not going to survive.
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>>34870206

gas the normies 1776 meme war now

orignuo
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>>34871364
seems to be working out pretty well here in silicon valley and up in canada though

just admit it bannon, regardless of how much we assimilate you literally just hate non-whites here
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>>34870788
Shit man, you're right. Sure, /b/ was edgy, but nowhere near the malice of /pol/.

Now /pol/ has infected /b/ completely.
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Gamergate and the fappening killed moot and thus killed 4chan
Mobile posting also played a significant part.
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>>34871420
I'm Canadian you ignorant shitheel, and no, it's not working here, the shitlib media just refuses to show what's really happening, and disgusting denialists like you make things even worse.
All you know how to do is oversimplify and say racism to shut down the conversation, and we're fucking sick of it. THE WHOLE FUCKING WORLD IS SICK OF IT.
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Pol is always funny with half of then being roleplayers and half being serious and also because they pollitical memes and have psyops over facebook and other social networks
Only problem i have with them is that they reached to other cancer sites like reddit so they came to 4chin

And ppl in this thread that are mad about cuck is because they are one
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>>34870887
>>34871106
It was never a joke fucking newfags
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I love how the entire leftist dogma is getting torn apart by a handful of shitposters
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>>34870206
/pol/ isn't really killing 4chan (if anything it attracts more users here) but it's annoying when they begin to shit up other boards. Thankfully I mostly browse boards where they have little presence.
They need to work on their meme game too.
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Real /pol/ users are absolutely based. What peop[le hate are the shitty redditors that sidebrowse /pol/ and then gloat about it everywhere they go. Fucking /r/thedonald shits deserve lethal doses of morphine. Unless you're a diehard liberal NEET, then you just hate Nazis, which is understandable
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>>34871493
just curious anon, how exactly is it not working?
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>>34871643
There's no doubt its giving 4chan a shit ton of exposure, but are we attracting the right kinds of people to this site through /pol/?
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>>34871747
No not really. As hipsterish as this sounds, communities flourish a better quality of user if they are smaller and don't meme spout all over other sites and beg for attention.
Like I said, I mostly use boards where the /pol/ types don't really go, so I'm still getting a good experience. It's refreshing how apolitical smaller boards can be compared to the bigger boards.
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>>34871695
>crime skyrocketing from migrants
>liberal government running massive deficit
>progressives refusing to acknowledge the problem, viciously persecute anyone who does
>liberal media even covering up sex crimes of migrants
>unrest growing amongst original population whose homes have turned into 3rd world crime hellholes that are now being discriminated against by their own government because they're upset at how terrible their once peaceful lives have become
I'm telling you anon, the situation up here is going to reach a head, hopefully Trudeau is ousted before something really terrible happens.
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>>34870206
I miss /b/ being popular
I want to go back
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>>34871822
Would you mind citing some sources anon?

The relationship between media and crime reporting is interesting but we are not talking about that now. We are also not talking about economic policy, but immigration. So let's stick to more data based analyses of crime caused by immigrants, ok? This can be done through the Uniform Crime Reporting Survey and the Census of Canada.

here's one I found:
waa dot ai slash jpip

there's a lot of information in there, but the gist of it is that immigrants in Canada generally cause less crime than the average Canadian. Immigrants tend to live together, and areas in which immigrants move into generally experience lower property crime and homicide than was present previously. It does take under reporting into account.

How has your home turned into a 3rd world hellhole anon? That sounds horrible. Can you post a pic of your front yard please, I want to see what's happening.

Sex crime is harder to look into, and obviously I am not Canadian (although I do have family there, in Waterloo, it's a very nice place). If you have any sources I would appreciate it. Here's a webpage I found which is related:
http://www.swc-cfc.gc.ca/svawc-vcsfc/index-en.html#section_7_1
>Although there is limited recent research on this topic, some work suggests that young women from marginalized racial, sexual and socio-economic groups are more likely to experience sexual violence
>While police-reported data from the last 20 years shows an overall declining trend, the data have also remained relatively stable in recent years for women

from what I can find on sex crime in particular, it appears to be a more in-group problem in which under-reporting in particular is an issue, however, sex crime overall in Canada has decreased, and sex crime against strangers remains low - you are likely to know the perpetrator beforehand.
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>>34870206
It's killing it by attracting tons of cancer.
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>>34872460
Only leftist cucks do research or try and understand anything. Real men force right-wing talking points to be real with meme magic.
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>>34872460
Possibly the most thorough BTFO-ing I've ever seen.

>>34872669
Lmao
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>>34870206
/pol/ is just chads and normies who think they're intelligent because they aren't fucking irredeemably dimwitted when it comes to politics (which is just a matter of being informed)
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>>34871585
>And ppl in this thread that are mad about cuck is because they are one

I'm mad about cuck because it's led to two fucking years of sitewide race baiting and other garbage threads being spammed constantly. It also spawned other shit tier memes like my wife's son that infected all the popular boards. Go fuck yourself.
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>>34872879
Wife's son was funny when it wasn't widely known, because people would slip it into long posts and a lot of people would miss it.
Now that it's lost that gimmick it isn't funny.
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>>34872934
Yeah just like anything on 4chan, uncreative retards started using it just so they could get endless replies of ">my wife's son"
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>>34872934
>Now that it's lost that gimmick it isn't funny.

that's the problem with /pol/
it isn't funny anymore
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>>34870206
>Is /pol/ killing or saving 4chan?
how could anyone think /pol/ is saving 4chan?

Even most /pol/fags will admit that 99% of pol posters are cancer
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>>34872460
What you are doing is citing deliberate deception from a government desperate to keep people ignorant.I live in a city that has seen the worst of the immigration. A small quiet town that now all of the sudden has an african gang problem.

People like you are the worst part of it. the denialism is allowing the situation to to continue to become worse.

You wonder why the right wing is taking back control?
Because you are wrong.
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I'm convinced by this point most /pol/ posters are actually underage. When your entire board is just petulant memers who cannot argue in anyway that does involve using buzzwords and injecting their 'alternate opinion' into any and every subject then I am obligated to think they're actually children. Whatever. I wouldn't give two fucks about them if they just stayed on their board, I don't want to hear about their political views if I'm on a board in a thread that has nothing to do with politics.
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>disagree with thing
>Get called a shill by
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>>34870206
I don't know. They help us keep the normies at bay, but they still attract edge lords.
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>>34871106
Can u give me a quick rundown?
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>>34873936
>They help us keep the normies at bay
Not really, they're attracting tons of normies to this site.
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>>34873581
this isnt even an argument its just vapid virtue signalling and blatant denial of the facts
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>>34870206
They're literally killing it, they're the source of all the cuck porn flooding this place now and they're media attention just brings in normies. But you can't say anything about them because the /pol/idf shitpost incessantly on /r9k/ and we don't have any real mods to move them back to their containment board
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>>34873581
>What you are doing is citing deliberate deception from a government desperate to keep people ignorant.

That may be true, but luckily we here in the States do not have that problem anymore.
Now with Trump in office, we can get our information directly from him, as he is the most accurate source of information.
>"No, the national liberal media won't print that or air it or post it," Smith said. "Better to get your news directly from the President. In fact, it might be the only way to get the unvarnished truth."

That being said, I would like to know more about your situation and outlook. Can I ask where you are from, and how these African gangs have affected you? Do they live in your area?

Could you provide proof for the inaccuracies or errors in the Canadian Census or UCRS? The paper I linked uses data from these sources, and any inaccuracies (or deception) would be from there. I am not denying that this could be a possibility, in fact, the methodology of the demographic data collecting which the Census uses should be examined and considered when analyzing the statistics they produce. There have been cases where very reputable public policy research organizations have not used sound methodology in their analyses.

here is the methodology of the UCRS Canada - waa.ai jpDp
errors and accuracy are addressed here.

keep in mind that under reporting was taken into account in the initial paper I posted.

On your second point - I agree with you that the right wing has made a global resurgence as of late - this says nothing about validity of outlook. Keep in mind that people you disagree with have been in power before. It's your job as an educated citizen to understand the bias and limitations of the sources of media which you consume, not the media's, as they will not change.
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>>34870206
/pol/ is changing 4chan. I would argue that it has some positives and some negatives. This campaign was a massive souce of some of the most diverse OC i've ever seen in my many years on 4chan. But Trump shit on pol most surely led to a massive reddit invasion of most of the site. You can tell by the quality of post. I literally saw a poltard justifiying some conspiricy theory a while ago by saying that while he was researching it "his laptop restarted". I'm not even kidding.

the tide seems to be turning against them though. They've made it non-edgy to be right wing and I'm seeing more and more /pol/ browsers confused when they post on another board and have their views refuted with facts or other research like this guy.

>>34873581

I think in general the tide is starting to swing, even though the majority of pol doesn't realize it yet.
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>>34870206
>more normalfags and retarded children
killing it
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>>34874678
i've never seen a poltard thrashed this bad before kek
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>>34873936
/pol/ is normie-central and reddit-lite at this point.
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>>34871106
its not pol but plebbit, retard
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>>34870206
>Is /pol/ killing or saving 4chan?

Killing. 4chan has been invaded by alt-normies that are attracted to /pol/
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>>34871585
>ppl
you are the cancer killing r9k
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It's annoying. Everyone is having a pleasant conversation and then dumbass tourists come in and start spamming >go back to Paul xd

It doesn't matter what we're talking about. If you prefer IPA over lager it's gb2/pol/.
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>>34873581
>polfag claims to not be biased or decieved by the evil media
>gets all his information from killallniggers.blogspot.vu
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It just feels good to hate desu
I'm a totally indiscriminate gay tolerant multicultural hater for peace. It is right to criticize and hate everything that possibly can be hated. Hence, having spent years hating god, christianity, parents, nation, white race, manly men, it is only natural that the pendulum swing back, that i may hate kikes, niggers, faggots, stupid cunt women and everything else, and let that all-consuming hate, for every class and category of humanity crescendo to a final solution, when thermonuclear race war annihilates multinational liberal capitalism and everyone else on this gay earth
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/pol/ is barely honest to goodness racist any more they're just dumb vaguely right wing college kings telling nigger and Jew jokes, I dunno what you are all complaining about
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>>34875046
I don't give a shit if they are racist or not, I care about 4chan. This is the place I spend all my time.

and they are ruining 4chan.
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>>34875138

The only ones ruining 4chan are the crybitches that call everything they don't like POLES OMFG I SUCK MILLIONS OF DICKS AND I'M ANGRY BECAUSE OF A POLL WHY DO PALLS KEEP COMING HERE ALL I DID WAS START A BULLSHIT ARGUMENT ABOUT POLITICS THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE THREAD AND THEN EVERYONE DISAGREE WITH ME THAT'S POLE I DON'T LIKE POL STOP IT POOL WAAAHHH
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>>34870206
They bring in almost 60% of the site's ad income. they are the most profitable board and therefore the most important. The site can't survive without them. Stop being a fucking faggot.
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>>34875313
Wow you really convinced me with that autistic screeching.
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>>34875313
This is autism

>The only ones ruining 4chan are the crybitches that call everything they don't like

Pol does the exact same thing but 100 times worse, seriously, go into any board for 3 days /v/ /gif/ /r9k/ whatever the fuck you want and i guarantee you there's going to be +10 cuck/racebait threads which are nothing but pure shit.

It might be hard to understand for a newfag but when your only source of joy comes from a website you have been coming to your whole life and that place gets shat up by 13 year old edgy kids it feels like shit. You can't even have any conversation with anyone who is black anymore without poltards ruining the whole thing, before all you'd get is maybe the ocassional nigger but now you get a shit ton of fags trying to be edgy and cool. Seriously when was the last time you saw an unironical post by a black dude without it turning into full /pol/ shitposting?
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>>34875367
What makes you think this is about how much profit is made, they're bringing cancer here and I don't like cancer.
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>>34875394
>>34875415
congrats, you got caught by his bait
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/r9k/ is even less /pol/ then /lbgt/
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>>34870206
they brought too much attention to the site,
now normals are flooding in to see what all the fuss is about and by the looks of things they've dug in their enclaves and wont leave,
now how have to deal with normalfags in threads I use to only see them rarely

in short
so fuck them
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>>34875415

How long have you been here anyway? Two years maybe? That's not exactly ebin oldfag status. Don't be butthurt over what other shitty boards like /gif/ and /v/ likes. If anything you should be proud not to have anything in common with them, /b/tards are less annoying. If you don't like the board you can visit others. I don't like the cuck shit reddit and tumblr spam here but I hide the thread and move along instead of crying about it like you. If you want unironic discussion from black people then 4chan is not for you. We are anonymous. We have no race and your identity politics are not wanted here.
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>>34875565
Well yeah, in /pol/'s ideal world people here would be considered worthless parasites and exterminated.
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>>34875700
no in /pol/'s ideals when taken to reality you basically end up with india.
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>>34870206
saving.
America will be great again.
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>>34875788
I don't care about America though.
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None of this is a problem with /pol/. Politics affects literally everything, /pol/ related topics are often related on other boards. Because of this, people inherently discuss politics. You could find politics on almost every board going back to 2007 and political events can be relevant in almost every board. Whether it is censorship of media or things even more blatant like gaymergate.
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Leave pol alone, faggots, your jew tactics to get the board brought down are despicable.

>Well... yeah, fellow virgin weebs... those pol guys are fine and all, I like "free speech" and "not genociding white people" and all... but, I do worry that I don't have arguments when they say things I don't like. They should be made to go away.
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>>34874678
/pol/ack BTFO

Also
>Liberal media
Did people just forget that conservatives traditionally controlled the media? Also, the only reason why the "liberal" media exists is because people around the globe are more liberal. You don't just establish these media sources if no one is going to listen. Conservatives have been pumping an equal amount of shit down our throats for millennia.
>PC Culture
Conservatives were censoring everything back in the day, trying to destroy even alternative music...
>Misinformation
Again, for the first time in pretty much ever, alternative media sources are available. In nations that were traditionally controlled by churches and conservative elites, there's now access to information that sheds a light on things they've been trying to hide and prevent for years. Oh my!

Regardless of what people believe, you're doing [insert fictional being]'s work by challenging nonsense.
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>>34875833
>someone doesn't like my board? Waaah, Jews, jews! Go away!
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>>34875819
>None of this is a problem with /pol/
of course it is, I didn't have to deal with this bullshit 5 years ago.
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>>34875833
>don't have arguments when they say things I don't like.
Are you sure?
>>34872460
>>34874678
It looks like it's the other way around.
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>>34871822
>>34870388
>>34875660
>>34875788
>>34875833
Kek is among us, confirming.
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>>34875900

Because you weren't here 5 years ago. I've been shitposting much longer than you, politics have always been here and every other fucking website since the beginning. It's fucking politics, it's related to everything.
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/pol/ is good sometimes

But it's been filled with so many retarded morons that its impossible to have any form of reasonable discussion.
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>>34875998
anon we have archives that go pretty far back, anyone can look through them and see how full of shit you are.
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>>34875998
no you want to push it on everything , like SJWs do for their shit, in fact that was most people original grievance with them.
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>>34876088

You mean they can go back and see how right I am. We were bitching about obongo not that long ago, and before that it was bush. Same old woman hate threads, same old page 15 I's be free threads, same old same old everything.
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>>34870206
Killing. Reddit /pol/tard newfaggots think 4chan IS /pol/, and they post their unfunny cancerous memes on every fucking board, and genuinely believe anyone who calls them out on their off-topic bullshit is an SJW. They need to fuck off from my anime website.
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>>34876128

What is this 'it' you speak of? I'm not pushing shit, except when I'm fucking you in the butt because you're too damn lazy to use an enema. If you don't like board culture then just leave. I will continue to use the terms normalfag, Chad, etc. without regard for how it makes you feel. Don't push your moralfaggotry here, it will fall on deaf ears. I'll openly admit to being a hypocrite because I eat pizza even though another poster ate a hamburger, so don't even bother with that non-argument.
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>>34876147

Since when has reddit ever been anything but an sjw hivemind? How fucking new are you?
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>>34876205
>What is this 'it' you speak of? I'm not pushing shit
of course you are, you don't have a life outside your political views and demand everyone else be the same.
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At this point /pol/ is the face of 4Chan. There's no escaping it and there's not denying it at this point
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>>34876289
I don't have a life and my political views are mild. Since when was never caring much about politics the same as demanding uniformity among everyone? I was only joking with the calling someone a hypocrite because two different people think two different things. You just might be more autistic than me for taking it literally.
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>>34870206
To be honest I like them execept the whole anti-weeb thing when this website was orignally a place to discuss anime and japanese culture
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>>34875700

/pol/ is full of weebs who would be gassed in their own ideal world
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>>34876236
How new are you? reddit isn't the enemy because they're SJWs, it's because they're unfunny faggots in general, and all of the attention 4chan has gotten from the recent election has /r/the_donald mouthbreathers pouring in here.
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>>34876352

>edgy 14 year old racists and memesters vs edgy 14 year old memesters and pedophiles.
Neither is particularly flattering to represent the site as a whole but I can't say one is worse than the others. No one browses the site for the social status though so does it even matter?
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>>34876443

The Donald, srs, whatever. The point is they've always been left leaning, not le alt right bogeyman.
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>>34876484
But r/the_donald is basically /pol/ lite. Believe it or not there's a large right wing community on reddit. They're still unfunny pseudo intellectuals like the rest of reddit but they exist.
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>>34871281
kek'd, does this mean I spend too much time on /pol/?
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