>see manly rough looking fit guy >want to be him >see

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>What is the solution?

Answer my question pleas.

>>34840618
Well I guess get fit and huge and see how you like it all the time, and if you don't then get on hrt.
How do you feel about male aging?

>>34840825
It takes many many years to achieve that naturally as a man.

My biggest issue is that I find myself dreaming of a scenario in which the world has gone to shit, society has collapsed, and there aren't any safety nets anymore A situation where I'd be left to fend for myself but I'd be living with a broken body that I purposefully destroyed to fulfill the single most extreme form of escapism I can think of.

Not only that, but I won't even have the drugs to maintain being a tranny either so I'll just be a freak of nature without constant and careful procedure for the rest of my life.

I always talk myself down from it then the next day I'm back to thinking about it.

>>34840618
>>want to be her
>>want to be tranny again
Kill yourself, disgusting faggot piece of shit

>>34840865
Oh so you're just a repressed tranny then. I bet you're not even old lol. Take your meds girl.
Don't fall for spooks.
Apocalyptic scenarios would be hell for a robot anyway so just assume you'd shoot yourself in that scenario.

>>34840887
Suicide isn't much of a solution. It would be better to be miserable than dead I believe.

>>34840909
I don't know, I've prepped pretty well for the apocalypse. Lots of canned beans and shit.

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>>34840618
Christ are you me? I have pdfs of Starting Strength and Jack Dempsey Championship fighting next to folders full of femdom and feminization videos, I'm just not attracted to men I'd give anything to worship a girl.

Usually I cycle between wanted my balls kicked by a sadistic girl or wanting to become a girl. Its what being isolated from the world for 2 years and being a 19 year old khv does to you, especially if you never really had an assertive masculine personality in the first place.

>>34840950
Not really into being humiliated by women but yeah I get really deep into working out, plan it all out, get my moms to buy the right foods and everything. Then the tranny thoughts start flowing back in.

>>34840985
You're mentally ill.

Origiami

>>34840950
Also install this shit to get MPC thumbnails working.

http://codecguide.com/download_k-lite_codec_pack_standard.htm

>>34840993
Mental disorders are relative.

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>>34840618
>Can't shape-shift and be what you feel like being at the moment
IKTFB...

>>34841011
Relative to the norm, maybe. This isn't normal. This behaviour is symptomatic of someone mentally defective.

>>34840816
Do you want guys or girls? If you want guys them be feminine.

>>34841035
Relative to the norm which is constantly changing.

Behavior of normal individuals 100+ years ago would have most of them considered to be sociopaths and psychopaths by today's standards. Psychology is a pseudo-science and I wouldn't continue using it as a basis for arguments.

>>34841057
If I'm a guy I want to be with women. If I'm a girl I want to be with men. I couldn't imagine being intimate with a woman as a tranny or being intimate with a man as a man.

>>34841021
Omnipotence is my only answer. Does /x/ have the solution? Last time I posted there a mod deleted my thread.

>>34841079
It's psychiatry not psychology you fucking moron. Stop justifying mental illness with appeals to futility.

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>>34840618
Be a manly trannie anon.

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https://sys.4chan.org/r9k/imgboard.php?mode=report&no=34840618&altc=1

do it for /r9k/ guys

report trap threads where you see them, even if they try to disguise them

>>34841104
>It's psychiatry not psychology you fucking moron

In order for psychiatry to exist the behavior must be identified as disorderly by psychology in the first place.

You're a retard my man.

>>34841145
I post here for contrarian opinions as /lgbt/ is just a hugbox. No point in reporting any threads on any board though since moderation has all but disappeared since hiro took the reigns. Not that this thread is breaking any rules, but even reporting the 9000 /soc/ threads does nothing.

>>34841145
holy fucking shit, that *shudder*

>>34841174
You can't call me retarded. Retardation is simply relative.

>HURRR THIS LOGIC MAKES PERFECT SENSE

>>34841174
And psychiatry came first you mentally ill cunt.

>>34840618
throw a coin if you're torn about two things
if you're happy with the result, you're set
if you're unhappy with the result, you learned you wanted the other thing, so you're also set

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>>34841208
>attempts to play semantics
>loses
>throws a fit like a child

Lmfao, too easy.

>>34841228
That doesn't change the fact that behavior must be observed and classified as disorderly before you can attempt to treat it.

>>34841256
You're the one who tried to play semantics. Jesus, is this what they were talking about when they said trannies were insane?

Your second part is irrelevant to my statement.

>>34840618
The solution is to start lifting
It will make you geel generally way better if you don't exercise at the moment so that alone is a huge plus, you will also get energy from it and something productive to do so that's all good.
There is all kinds of benefits doing this so it's silly to not do it

>>34841284
Calling mental disorders relative is not playing semantics.

Questioning my sanity is in fact also not an argument.

>>34841293
I have started lifting and doing basic workouts for a few weeks now. It hasn't really done much for me and my attitude.

>>34841333
It's completely playing semantics. There is no argument to be had. You are mentally ill. You're a male that wants to be female. You're defective. Broken.

>>34841333
>It hasn't really done much for me and my attitude.
Keep at it, it will. The change isn't necessary something you feel instantly.

>>34841376
Alright it's playing semantics. Regardless I still won so I suppose you are correct about there no longer being an argument to be had.

>>34841382
A lot of the time I just end up feeling like I'm going in the opposite direction I should be and fucking myself over by building muscle instead of trying to slim down and look feminine.

>>34841408
>I'm right because I say I'm right

Mentally ill AND mentally deficient all in one.

>>34841408
>A lot of the time I just end up feeling like I'm going in the opposite direction I should be and fucking myself over by building muscle instead of trying to slim down and look feminine.
Life is full of decisions like that where you feel slight regret only because you think what could have been if you chose otherwise. You just stick with your choices and prove yourself wrong.

>>34841431
>He's deliberately trying to ruin this faggot's physique for when he finally cracks and decides to pretend to be a girl full-time

Keep it up

>>34841430
>>34841430
m8 your argument is no different either all you have said is
>you are mentally ill because I say so
you sound insecure does the guilt of fapping to traps eat you?

>>34841448
>You're a male who thinks you're a girl
>You can't decide what you are
How the fuck is that not an argument for being mentally ill?

And I don't give a fuck about fapping to traps. Some just need to be pinned down and fucked. Unless they're manly. Then they should hang themselves.

>>34841472
>How the fuck is that not an argument for being mentally ill?
It's not because you aren't in the position to judge who is mentally ill and who is not. Just because you are good at spelling memes at 4chan doesn't unfortunately give you that authority and arguments are supposed to be based on reality.

>>34841430
No, I'm right because psychiatry literally doesn't exist without psychology.

You are also right. By certain standards I can most definitely be considered mentally ill. I'm not arguing against that. All I'm saying is that it's not very productive to point it out and being called mentally ill isn't going to phase anyone with a triple digit IQ. But you seem to have little interest in productive conversation, given the fact you're a whiny little faggot.

>>34841493
>Reality
>Being unable decide whether you want to be a man or a sissy slut is not a sign of mental illness. It's totally normal and a rite of passage for every male.

;))

>>34841510
Wrong. Go Google it. Psychiatry is the treatment of the abnormal. People who aren't autistic can look at a group and determine a base judgement of normal. This isn't a special skill.

But of course

>Y-You're a f-faggot!

Says the cunt who wants to be fucked in the ass and made to swallow cum.

>>34841536
>People who aren't autistic can look at a group and determine a base judgement of normal. This isn't a special skill.

You're right, it isn't a special skill. It's just called psychology.

>>34841559
>Society is full of psychologists

Oh boy.

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>>34841574
>you can do math you must be a mathematician

>>34841590
.........That was literally your argument. That being able to determine normalcy was psychology. Are you retarded?

>>34841608
No, that was not my argument. I'm saying that just because the majority of people can make subconscious psychological evaluations for certain types of behavior and that it's generally pretty common place, does not mean that the act of doing so has nothing to do with psychology.

For that claim to be true 2+2=4 isn't math because a lot of people can do it without having to actively think about it.

You're genderfluid, OP. It's a totally valid gender identity.

>>34841648
Okay. You're retarded. Go take a look at the meaning of the suffix -ology. Being able to determine normalcy has nothing to do with studying the mind or brain. Fuck off.

>inb4 more semantic bullshit
>W-WELL, YOU SEE.... P-PEOPLE HAVE TO STUDY BEHAVIOUR TO UNDERSTAND WHAT NORMAL IS.... YEAH...

>>34841676
>plays semantics
>i-inb4 you play it t-too!

Lmfao

Either way mental disorders are classified by psychologists and treated by psychiatry. Psychiatry and psychology shift according to public opinion. There has never been an objective stance on sociopaths, psychopaths, gays, bisexuals, or trannies. You can actively observe just how volatile the entire field is in real time and yet you still use it as a basis for whatever your argument is exactly.

>>34841749
>Arguing the exact definition of a word is semantics

You can't win. Your position is indefensible. Psychology as a field of study came about because of the realisation that if the abnormal was studied the normal should be studied too. Psychiatry came first. Wanting to be a little girl is a mental illness. It's gender dysphoria or whatever the fuck the DSM kikes want to call it now. Science doesn't change because of popular opinion. That's what makes it a science. And that's why psychology is a pseudo-science. A book changing definitions doesn't change facts.

Now suck my dick you sissy faggot.

>>34841788
Alright. Psychiatry treats conditions. Psychology defines which conditions are to be considered disorderly. Psychology is a pseudo-science which changes its stances relative to societal norms.

You're not discussing how to treat conditions. You're claiming something to be an objective disorder while also agreeing that the system science uses to define disorders is faulty. You have no real system in place to define what is or is not a disorder. Not that I'm disagreeing with it being a disorder. Wanting to become a tranny is very obviously disorderly. All I'm saying is that as of a right now it's difficult to irrefutably prove that and so it's not worth really bringing up unless you can otherwise do so.

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>>34840950
>Muslim immigrants attack woman and her child

>>34841880
Wrong right off the bat. You've got what psychology and psychiatry are completely wrong.

>>34841900
Whatever. I'm going to bed faggot, peace

Will someone be my trap gf pls :3

>>34841927
>Finally realises he's been retardedly advocating for his own flawed definitions of two different field
>B-bye l-loser!!!!!!

Poetic.

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>>34841984
No, you just didn't seem interested in elaborating so I figured the conversation was dying down so I said goodbye. It's late for me, peace.

>>34842030
>I-I'M GOING TO BED ANON
>JUST POSTING ONCE MORE BUT I'M GOING TO BED NOW

No you're not. Go find out how psychiatry and psychology differ. I'm not going to spoonfeed you. Psychology doesn't define conditions at all.

Or are you just hoping I'll come to bed with you and force you to give me your boipucci

>>34840618
here's your solution friend

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6AQ_85U7Q0

i want to shoot my jizz into hyper feminine traps erryday

>tfw isolated shut in

>>34842066
I'm not trying to win any internet arguments my dude. I have no interest in researching it right now and if you have no interest in elaborating then like I said, I'm hitting the hay.

>>34842110
I don't have a father to disappoint so it's alright.

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>>34840618
This is called being genderfluid, despite 4chan's intense hatred for the word.

>>34840618
You sound like a perfect candidate for fucking killing yourself
Get started, stupid fucking tranny nigger

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>>34842155
>no new IP

lol

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>>34841896
kek I forgot I had that saved

>>34840618
Do more Kroc rows.

>>34842125
>I don't have a father to disappoint
>I don't bother to better myself by learning the meanings of things I try to argue online
>I want to be a tranny

Yup. It checks out.

>>34842145
It's called being mentally ill.

>>34840950

>men want to become transsexuals because they can't get laid

seriously what is wrong with men