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Who /communist/ here? You realize that nationalism and "white

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Who /communist/ here?

You realize that nationalism and "white pride" are bourgeois spooks created to divide the working class, right /r9k/?

You're not a classcuck are you? You aim to own the means of your own production, right?
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Ewww can you go back to your containment board >>>/pol/
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>>34834965
Of courses anon
t.ancom
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>>34834965
wait so if theres fully automated luxury communism you can have robot gf for free???
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>>34834965
Gommunism is for literal retards.. Few countries come to mind when I think of socialist shitholes.. do you know which ones they are?
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>>34835028
Unironically yes but that kind of thing happening is many many years away
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>>34834965
Long Live Comrade Stalin desu
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>>34834965
>You're not a classcuck are you? You aim to own the means of your own production, right?
Kind of.

What I want t is for all the normal people to live on common land like what was happening before enclosure but otherwise for the nobility and clergy to govern society on a religiously inspired basis.
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>>34835033
Can you explain why these countries are gommunism?
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>>34834965
I was a communist until I realized that 50% of the 1% is Jewish
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>>34834965

>working class

Excuse me?
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>>34834965
>You aim to own the means of your own production
I doubt most people here produce something in the Marxist sense
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AHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
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"Class" is also a spook, you fucking ghostie. Get back in your bread line and stop shitting up this board.
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>>34835070
Lad most communists advocate for people being able to live without working with their basic needs
>>34835086
t.Max Stirner
The concept of a spook is a spook :^)
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Communism cannot work with human nature. A world without nations, money, class and property is impossible.
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>>34835124
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Read mutual aid a factor of evolution
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>>34835117

You can work, little commie. I'll sit at home and shitpost. Working is for plebs
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Fucking hell I'm sick of you retards.
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>>34835151
Fuck off neet hope jimmy "beat Stalins high score" Dore puts you in a gukag perosnally. You parasite
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I'm self employed and run a small eBay business.

I'm ancap by the way.
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>>34835028
>>34835045
you still gotta act swiftly comrades, if AI and robo-waifu technology gets developed under capitalism it will be abused by porky with absurdly high costs and planned obsolescence, assuming automation won't just allow the bourg to completely disregard the mass of people they once depended on for labor.
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>>34835061
Yeah, they become literal dictatorships that forcd people to do the bidding of their leaders who subsequently depive their own people of resources and capital so that they may ensure they rule for as long as they can.. until eventually everyone is eating their own shit and the state literally turns into a subset of anarcho-gommunism

Anyone who chooses communism as a pratical means of societal function is by definition insane. Has it ever worked? NOPE!!
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>tfw comfy master race
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>>34835177
How do you feel about ancap youtubers like Love, Life and Anarchy sucking hitler's dick?
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>>34834965
>Communism
No thanks famaliam
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>>34834965
>>34835007
>>34835033
Keep licking boots classcucks

>>34835063
>Removes Jews
>Capitalism doesn't actually disappear
>yfw


>>34835107
Class is a real-world, material condition
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>>34835191
>Has it ever worked? NOPE!!

Worked for Cuba
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>>34835191
I'm asking you what countries qualify as communism, not your misinformed opinion of history.
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>>34834965

Im a socialist anon, but i do like communism
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>>34835218
pinguism 4life senpai
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>>34835227
Gumans, like any mammal work together through social hierarchy, without hierarchy, there is no order

Without a ruling class there is no standard.. do you actually think communism is a good idea.
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>>34835209
I'm disappointed that a lot of ancaps are jumping onto the alt-right train. I'm pretty sure that dictatorship and genocide violate the NAP.
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>>34834965
You realize equality is a spook?
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>>34835244
Is this a joke?

>>34835252
Russia, Venezuela, Cuba
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>>34834965
I'm not really interested in being anally fucked by the state
Well, maybe.
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>>34835298
Equality as a sacred principle, sure, but for rational, despooked individuals, equality must be the underpinning of society as it is the most advantageous compromise that can be made in a union of egos.
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>>34834965
Nationalism and white pride aren't economic models. I think you're trying to put your finger on capitalism, which ensures that the most ambitious reap the most benefits from what they provide. Trying to put everyone on the same level by making means of production owned communally will not work because the human is a competitive being, and the human is not a programmable robot that can cooperate in a collectivist mindset when it comes to producing labor.
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Reminder that the ultimate goal of communism is the abolition of work. A society of NEETS.
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>>34835311
>Is this a joke?

Cuba would had been way worst off if they made alliance with the US. Say what you want about Fidel, but was a hero.
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>>34835290
What? What do you think ''From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs'' means?

Also

Just because someone has his private property protected with statist force doesn't mean he's enlightened. Private property is much a spook as the NAP is.
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>>34835244
>Thrown in prison by Cuban government for whistleblowing the travesties of Castro's communist failure state
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>>34835370
A.K.A. Fully automated luxury communism
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>>34835324

at least post the full pic classcuck
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Why cant one be both a nationalist and a communist? Heard of Falangism, Strasserism or National Bolshevism?
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>>34835408
Weren't people celebrating his death in the street?

He was a hero for what? Socializing medicine.. starving his country? Not allowing his country men to leave?
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>>34835432
t.Nazbol gang
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>>34835426
Wtf i love she-dicks now
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>>34834965
I don't produce anything. Will there be NEETbux, comrade?
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>>34835416
>Implying america doesn't do the same dame thing
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>>34835426
>left libertarian is liberal not anarchist
Into the trash it goes
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>>34835432
>Execute operation Mitzvah
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>>34835370
>quoting post-left anarchism to justify communism

I'm a post-left, anti-work market anarchist. A society of petite-bourgeois artisans is what we should aim for.
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>>34835449
dickgirls are objectively the best
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Communism in action folks
Reminder that communism has never worked and won't ever work because the ideology is flawed
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>>34835478
NAZBOL INFILTRATION HAS BEGUN
*AUTISTIC SCREECHING ABOUT EUROASIANISM*
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>>34835479
Post-leftism isn't inherently anticommunist. The communization current of Marxists has been heavily influenced by post-leftists like Bob Black and the Invisible Committee. Read Gilles Dauve.
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>>34835410
Classism is what drives the economy, everyone wants what the top has.. the top is an arisocratic culture, they are dignified.. what everyone should aspire to..

if you make everyone equal you dull out culture and creativity. You're society becomes a cesspool of victims who are all equal with no power who are unironically ruled over by the state which holds the heirarchy in order

Communism is just classism but with a sole individual pulling the strings.

At least capitalism centers around human nature.. which is smart.
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>>34835166
Not an argument, but thanks for sharing :)
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>>34835479
>post left
>implying post anarchism isn't clearly superior
baka senpai. read up http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.466.2467&rep=rep1&type=pdf

Market socialism with a framework to fully automated luxury communism is best plan
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>>34835531
>Communism is just classism but with a sole individual pulling the strings.

You just proved you're an idiot.

Communism =/= fascist dictatorship
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Mmm look at all that yummy food
O wait there was none because communism didn't work
(just like how modern commies don't work)
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>>34835531
>if you make everyone equal you dull out culture and creativity. You're society becomes a cesspool of victims who are all equal with no power who are unironically ruled over by the state which holds the heirarchy in order
t. someone who has no idea what equality means
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>>34835463
>America does it too so it's alright
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communism is for delusional cucks who think that somehow their particular interpretation of an inherently violent, radical ideology will somehow result in a utopia instead of a brutally oppressive authoritarian state like every other interpretation of that ideology which has actually been put into practice. hierarchy is the natural state of mankind, it is better to learn to accept it than to make a vain and foolish effort to overthrow it, which ultimately results in far worse tyrants
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>>34835579
Capitalism isnt facism either, but isn't that you're argument..

If we are talking from theory I understand the neccesity of being equal, but that's not how human nature works which is why communism always results in dictatorships. People want more power no one can be equal. Remember this one line-er?

>The rest oppress the best or the best oppress the rest
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>>34835531
>At least capitalism centers around human nature.. which is smart.

It's not smart and saying "muh human nature" to justify the bullshit people who aren't rich goes through means it's just as flawed. Capitalism causes social, economic, and ethnic inequality. Capitalism only relies on greed.
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>>34835633
NOOOOTTTTANARGUMENNTTTT
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>>34835633
Equality is for people who can't compete.. its about protecting special snowflakes from the truly nightmarish realities of life
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>>34835716
Capitalism causes inequality in the same sense that natural selection causes inequality.
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Look at this communist utopia what could go wrong folks
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>>34835716
>greed

ie. Human nature
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>>34835687
>muh appeal to nature fallacy
It's human nature to want to kill your wife after finding out she cheated. Doesn't mean it's correct.
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>>34835687
>delusional cucks

Ok Absalom, lets begin.

>delusional cucks
Nice non argument

> hierarchy is the natural state of mankind
Not really, considering we started out as stateless, classless nomads, also naturalistic fallacy.


The reason that communism has failed is because of extensive western imperialism and influence.

>>34835746
>I can't argue so i'm going to spam these images, hahaha

nice meme, still not an argument
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>>34835441

Not a Leninist, am critical of Cuba, but mein gott, watch less CNN bud. They were celebrating in Miami but mourning in Havana. Pretty much all aspects of quality of life shot up after Cuba left the Yankee's grip, Cuba is one of the better off Latin American countries easily.
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>>34835716
>>34835743
To expand on that, state corporatism promotes greed. So get mad at the government that has special bailouts in favor of the large corporations. Don't blame the free market which is essentially having its flame snuffed out due to this.
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>>34835749
Greed is not the only factor to human nature, idiot.

>>34835743
Natural selection is not man made. It's biology. Animals do the same thing
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>>34835764
Don't use that argument with Samson, he actually believes that.
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who /post-left/ here
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Communism looks like so much fun let's join folks
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>>34835718
>>34835733
Equality means not giving other people the power to dominate you.
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>>34835811
And capitalism sets the framework for natural selection economically. If you're poor under capitalism then it's your fault.
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>>34835821
What's even happening in this picture? Is this in a Stalinist gulag?
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>>34835764
from a biological standpoint, it is
>>34835768
wrong. even in hunter gatherer societies, more dominant, strong people tend to make decisions for others. hell, even in non human species this is apparent. communism fails because it says that there is an alternative to this, and that anything is justified in seeking that alternative (which ultimately means that people will form hierarchies, and justify them by saying they're "consensual", when in reality they're anything but. if you've ever lived in any society attempting to be "anarcho communist", you know how this shit goes down, and how utterly dysfunctional it is)
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>>34835835
>If you're poor under capitalism then it's your fault.
That's why these 8 own as much as half the world's population, right?
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>>34835835
>he thinks capitalism is a meritocracy
lel
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>>34835828
Equality is a term used to balance the scale. Equality is a morally positive term used to imply that those on the higher end of the scale had risen up through exploitation, greed, and evil. Why don't you go provide a service or good that's in high demand? Be an entrepreneur.
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>>34835835
>If you have no resources, no insurance, payed in low wages but work long hours, and the cost of living keeps going up, it's your fault

Ok
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Every attempt at communism has been a success don't believe (((them))) when they say otherwise
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>>34835873
>from a biological standpoint, it is
No, it just is. there is no ethics or morality attached.
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>>34835874
>>34835878

Read>>34835793 illiterate spergs
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>>34835840
Yes it is a gulag in the communist Utopia of the soviet union.
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>>34835873
Here's the thing about non-human species,. It's true that they have leaders but what they also do is if they find their leader incompetent they kill it or shun it. Pack animals often make decisions as a group even though they have a leader.

As for nomadic herders, there were no hierarchies really, there was a separation of duties between sexes. The men hunted while the women gathered.

That's really it.

I don't even know why you believe this shit because you're fat and autistic as hell.
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>>34835924
Rojava is an interesting strain of socialism being implemented in northern Syria right now. I could give you other examples of anti-authoritarian socialism being implemented but they've mostly been purged by capitalists, fascists, and Stalinists over the years.
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>>34835972
Syria must be a utopia right now then without that stupid capitalism holding them back
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>>34835709
Human nature is to adapt and work in groups, whether those groups grant autonomy and liberty to the individual (social anarchism/communism) or whether they force the individual to answer to the orders of another (capitalism/feudalism) is entirely not important, both work just fine. Though since communism always results in dictatorships, who is the dictator of the EZLN? And of the CNT-FAI? And the Kurds?
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Capitalism is tremendous
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>>34835909
>Equality is a morally positive term used to imply that those on the higher end of the scale had risen up through exploitation, greed, and evil.
'no'
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>when people talk about human nature without having read philosophy
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>>34835989
Rojava is doing pretty fine for a confederation in the middle of a full-scale war against ISIS, I hear, yes.
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>>34835960
>>34835793
>capital accumulation and the political power of corporations ain't real capitalism
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>>34835913
Cost of living will go up because of price adjustment for inflation due to money printing. That's not capitalism.

which leaves
>No resources
>Low wages
>Long hours

How would you wind up in this scenario? Give me a play by play please. Sounds like you'd have to be pretty dense to be this rock bottom.
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>>34835989

>having this little understanding of current geopolitics
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Chilling with my friends in paradise nothing wrong here
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>>34836049
Get born in the third world or to one of the very poor families in the first world, and if you get to go to high school you have to work as soon as you're done or you're dead.
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>>34836049
>there are no problems with capitalism if you don't call it capitalism
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>>34836074
Do you really think that's what I think that about syria, you couldn't sense a bit of sarcasm
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Syria is totally communist. Yeah Assad is truly a connesuier of Marxist literature, yep.
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>>34836103
No. Nobody thought that. We all understood the sarcasm and we all think you're an idiot.
For a society trying to start up in the situation it's in, it's doing very well and you're silly to expect more given the context.
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>>34836098
>there are no problems with communism if you say that it wasn't real communism
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>>34836105
>Assad has control over Rojava
literally one google search
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>>34836047
I'm sorry but where in the definition of capitalism does it say that the government, a non-market facing institution, can legislate in favor of large corporations to eliminate competition ? Doesn't sound very laissez-faire to me.
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>>34836139
>expect more
I seriously don't but whatevs
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>>34836150
someone doesn't know the history of capitalism, because if that's your definition, then capitalism has never existed.
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>>34835967
no, I believe it because I have lived in a commune, and seen exactly how dysfunctional it is and how delusional the people in it are. having a clear, straightforward hierarchy makes it much easier for a society to function and progress, without it you have everyone living in poverty under the "leadership" of mentally ill assholes, who try their hardest to brainwash everyone to their fucked up point of view
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>>34836150
Nowhere does it specifically exclude those things either. Capitalism is a mode of production. This mode of production is highly apparent you just need an individual using the labour power of others to accumulate capital.
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>>34835209
Anarcho Capitalism is only possible through the physical removal of undesirables and communists. LL&A and Christopher Cantwell realized this. >>34835292
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>>34836188
Living in a house full of mental patients from rich families who grow weed and organic garden all day isn't the same as living in a full out communist society
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>>34836142
>everyone I don't like is a communist
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>>34836098
I just made the argument that a state appointed institution artificially printing surplus of money is not anywhere near implied in the definition of capitalism.

>Skip over the logic provided in the statement and then use may mays XDDD
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>>34836188
>leadership
>without hierarchy
So unless you yourself are admitting to be a mentally ill asshole, I'll have to point out that religious communes are not anarchist communes.
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>>34836049
>Why don't poor people just buy more money?

Original Gangsta
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>>34836213
Anarcho capialism is impossible and a contradiction considering capitalism requires hierarchy and a dictatorship of the workplace while anarchism calls for a democracy of the workplace.
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>>34836228
this was an "anarchist" commune though
>>34836222
no, it's much more civilized actually, as none of the mental patients have the legal authority to murder those who don't agree with them
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>>34836226
>I just made the argument that a state appointed institution artificially printing surplus of money is not anywhere near implied in the definition of capitalism.
Well it usually ended up even worse when they didn't have the state controlling money printing, the amount of counter-fitting and non-standard currencies caused several crises.
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>>34836150

that's an inevitable result of capitalism, you think the gov't in a capitalist state won't bow to the interests of the porkies they protect? talk about being naive.
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>>34836213
>Let's slaughter communists and "undesirables", even if the communists are anti-authoritarian and pose no direct threat to you
>We're anarchists by the way, and I hate corporatism!
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>>34836210
It doesn't specifically exclude them in the definition but the definition itself implies the nature of the free market ruling out who reaps the biggest reward. >>34836226
Corporatism is capitalism with cheat codes. If only certain players can get special favors from the government and others are still constrained by the true nature and competition of the free market, then it isn't capitalism anymore. Not that hard to understand.
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>>34834965
heres a really comfy r9k discord servers a lot of us are actually socialist and are really chill join and make some new friends fellow robots!
https://discord.gg/tevUfsG
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>>34836315
Didn't mean to link another post in the middle of my reply
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>>34836308
>even if the communists are anti-authoritarian and pose no direct threat to you
Ah, yes. I forgot about those peaceful communist protesters.
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>>34836307
It's not an inevitable result. It's a vain manipulation of a great system that should be used fairly.
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>>34836384
Shut up goy I mean classist pig those were obv right wing plants yes right wing provocatuers no actual leftists to see.
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>>34836384
Are you grouping all the radical leftists together who describe themselves as "communist" or "socialist"? At least some of them are going to be advocates of nonviolence. There's a lot of differing ideals amongst the radical left. You may be interested in market socialism if you're an ancap for instance.
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So e communists have decided to branch out from Reddit and revleft to shill on boards full of lumpen proles and the mentally ill, eh? From passing out Troskyist newspapers in coal mines and the factory floor to proselytizing on Mongolian cartoon forums in less than 70 years, oh how the mighty have fallen!
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>>34836500

Leftists have been around on chans for a long time. I remember socialist threads on /b/ all the way back in 2010.
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>>34834965

Is having black pride considered bourgeois? Also, communism has totally worked out in places like Russia, East Europe (Czech/Hungary/Romania/West Germany), China, Chile (briefly), Vietnam, Cuba, ect. Communism has facilitated the growth of truly prosperous nations, allowing the people to have plenty of wealth and food. Even today communism is the foremost political ideology of all modern, advanced nations.

Oh wait. It isn't. Commies are freedom hating scum. Go back to cuckland, pinko.
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>>34835181
>assuming automation won't just allow the bourg to completely disregard the mass of people they once depended on for labor
What keeps them from doing that?
Or worse, what keeps them from slaughtering everyone for fun?
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>>34836142

I have catgirls, your argument is irrelevant.
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Hey why does leftypol like badmouse productions? I thought you guys didnt like identity politics?
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>>34836939
His channel is pretty cringe desu, from what I've seen. I wish anti-idpol socialists had a better speaker on YouTube. I'm not aware of many.
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>>34834965
>pic
>socialism
you can do better than this, comrade. there are tonnes better leftist oyc out there, like the glorious USSR anthem.
there is one thing i don't like about communism, it has been historically against religion and spirituality. i have trouble hacking this life without God.
why do you hate our kind?
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>>34837029
Because leftism is about the removal of authority/hierarchies while religion is generally contrary to that.

There are a lot of Christian socialist movements, however.
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So do you guys believe in the patriarchy and stuff?
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>>34837173
communists hates sjws because they place communism in bad light. the patriarchy is in line with it though, which makes it very divisive.
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bumpini 4 my gomrades
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>>34835227
>Keep licking boots classcucks
PFFFFFFFFT AHAHAHAHAH
>mfw commies think they AREN'T bootlickers
Now keep your hands the fuck off my property you moralist spooked niggers.
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>>34835426
>not posting the hi res version
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I'd be a communist if you guys hadn't been taken over by idpol bullshit like the rest of the left.

Don't deny it. Even if you personally don't like idpol, you know I'm correct in saying that most communist and socialist communities online have been infiltrated and dominated by idpol in the last 10 years.
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>>34838748
go post some catgirls on r/socialism if you don't like idpol communists.
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>>34838939
Are you kidding? r/socialism is one of the worst offenders for idpol/SJWism

Bring back manly, soviet-style communism without all the identitarian nonsense and you'll get my vote and support. until then nah
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>>34836500
old /b/ was composed of anarcho communists, faggot.
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>>34834965
Spooks are spooks.
Are spooks. Are spooks...
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>>34839453
not a contradiction. it's in most peoples self interest to not be exploited.
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>>34839476
>most peoples
>self
>fuck morals ahahaha
>s-stop exploiting me! muh feefees
Sad!
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>>34839476

if that was the truth then nobody would work for wages

owning a business and employing people is a lot more effort, responsibility and risk than just drawing a wage every week. Most people have no interest in it and prefer to be "exploited"
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I'm for whatever allows me to live easier without being a wagecuck.
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>>34839583
This. I'd be OK with doing some work once in a while though
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>>34837021
lol most of the leftypol people that are on youtube are exactly that, even badmouse isn't particularly focused on idpol he's just not some chauvinistic idiot
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>>34839513
Yeah, but this is because they're not class conscious anon. Right now, wages are stagnating, cost of living is rising even if productivity is actually going up. We will see people rise when their wages aren't enough. I'm not talking about not-able-to-afford-vacation level of poverty. I'm talking about risk of homelessness and starvation level of poverty.
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>>34840003
all of that happening is because the lefties have totally switched from supporting the working classes to focusing to identity politics and essentially becoming a movement for non-whites. go to any thread about globalism on plebbit and all of the top upvoted posts are about how jobs getting exported is a good thing cause some bitch in india can now get her 2 dollars per day.
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>>34834965
>You aim to own the means of your own production, right?
somehow socialists interpret this to mean stealing other people's capital
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>>34840003
That's all because of increasing levels of government control, prove me wrong.
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>From each according to their ability.

I'd rather not.
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Communism doesnt work
It never will
Name a country that did good as communist
Dont tell me china because they are more capitalist now
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>>34834965
I don't get communism. When you say own the means of production do you mean that if I want to get chips or something I have to go and make it myself in a factory?? What the fuck does that even mean
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>>34835370
It is a shame that none of the stupid ragies can rise up and see the world for what it is.
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>>34834965
You could have just said "I'm too lazy to work" and accepted the social stigma that comes along with that, instead of wasting time trying to appear like some revolutionary.
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>>34834965
The concept of communism cannot be achieved because of our competitive nature. Even the sperm wage war and not just race to conceive the fortified egg, you naive kid.
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As long as there is more than one country in the world, more than one religion, more than one language, communism won't work. Capitalism is temporary, to allow one country conquer whole world. When that happens, we should shatter national and racial proud and prove that only one religion or none is right. Then we make money worthless. That's how we make true communism.
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Every time a communist opens his mouth, I'm driven further and further to Fascism.

I used to be in the bottom right corner.
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>>34841250
The concept of capitalism cannot be achieved because of our social nature. Even the earliest human civilizations were based on common ownership not competitive struggle, you naive kid.
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>>34841281
Translation: "My political ideology is so weak that only by eliminating all other political ideologies, states, languages, religions and races can it actually stand up without being btfo by any other ideology.
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>>34841181
All chips that are made are distributed equally among the population

>>34841322
>common ownership
incorrect. humans have always had a notion of personal ownership of capital, be it in the form of stone tools or whatnot. You can see the same behaviour among great apes and even certain old world monkeys.
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>>34841361
1) Who makes the chips and who pays them?
2) Let's say I'm fat and need 2 bags of chips does that mean I can only get 1?
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>>34834965
Sounds like a globalist trick to me
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>>34841361
>All chips that are made are distributed equally among the population
What if I don't want chips?
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>>34834965
>Who /16 year old homosexual/ here?

ftfy
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>>34841322
The shit brained totalitarian dualism of Commie thinking never ceases to amaze.

For everyone except delusional marxists, a common ownership and private ownership can exist at the same time. I can have my own house, weapons, family.

At the same time, I can have a tribe, with various material things which the local community owns, such as food and water supplies or perhaps some communal buildings and so on.

Communism is death and evil, the endless black pit it will throw humanity into out of it's followers egotism and self righteousness is filled with endless pain and suffering.

There is no act more righteous than fighting against it.

God I hate it, so so much.
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>>34841391
workers, and they're paid by everyone pooling all products and taking what they need from the pool

possibly, you might be able to get away with two bags if you forego another item.

>>34841410
that's part of the calculation problem, at least in a centrally planned system. in decentralised socialism you would trade your product of labour for something other than chips
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>>34841166
Yugoslavia's living standard was as high as some eastern european countries during Tito.
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>>34834965
BTFO again in /pol/ huh /leftypol/?
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>>34841523
Yugoslavia also wasn't pure socialism
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>>34841455
Workers taking hold of the means of production means the industry not having an authoritarian hierarchy but a democratic and direct participation of the workers in the process via committees, referendums and so on. Unless we talk about Marxism-Leninism where there is a vanguard state that "makes sure" that everything goes as planned.
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>>>/leftypol/

And stay out
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Girls value status and I'm not Chad.

So fuck communism. My only hope is to be richer and more politically powerful than others. Fuck you all commies.
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>>34841530

>Yugoslavia also wasn't pure socialism

It was more socialist than Venezuela or China, today. It was still very socialist.
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I don't like soulless consumerist multinational capitalism, but I really dislike sjw idpol, and desu I'd rather hang with nazis and ancaps on /pol/, because they at least have a sense of humor
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you guys should invest some time in dumping commie stuff, you are the propaganda masters and the world almost fell on its knees because of them.
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originalBLOX
this post need some originality to be quite frank with you my friend
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he is right u know :carat)
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>tfw not working for novosti
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>>34834965
Youre pretty dumb if you think natsoc divided classes, or class division is bad for that matter. You cant equate a pesant to a king, yet both should respect and work together for their nation. Thats the basics of fascism, thats why its symbol is a bundle of sticks. Also the reichmark was based off of work, one mark equated to an amount of effort, literally work as a currency. Kys juden
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>tfw not part of glorious kgb
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oreganitto for motherland
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>>34834965
I know you're just memeing, but I am amazed that there are people that still believe in socialist and communist ideals after all of the death and destruction it has repeatedly and undeniably caused. Really tickles the pickle.
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>unironically being a commiecuck in the current year

Wow, it's like you enjoy being bluepilled. Here kiddo, take a proper redpill, this one's on me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J92f2S3E0S8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-BZylziBKI
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>>34834965
>communism
Never worked, never will. Enjoy starving to death.
Also, this autistic shit belongs there: >>>/x/
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>>34842693
>wah wah muh human nature
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I'm the bourgeoise, most of you prolly are.
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>>34842787
Bet you think women are pure and wouldn't cuck anyone
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If you are not at least a libertarian, you are a temperamental, emotionally immature, violent, egoist and greedy shit.
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>threads get spammed to death on /pol/
>come to /r9k/ to shill instead
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>>34836308
>communists are anti-authoritarian
LOL. Nice try gomrade :DDDDDDD
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>>34835515
>this post gets no replies from the commies
really makes you think...
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>>34834965
As someone who's never cared about politics, can someone give me a quick run down on what communism is and what makes it good/bad?
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lenin

hah
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>>34842693
>jonathan bowden
my nigga
that video on european self-intolerance with the burzum music is great too
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>>34843231
Communism is the brainchild of Carl Marx. He wanted to bring about a communist utopia where the means of production would be owned by everybody (the state). He outlined a way by which people could bring about this "utopia" by making regular capitalistic society so terrible that communism would become a preferable alternative.
Anyone that tells you they're a communist basically only wants to destroy culture and society.
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>>34843267
Thanks for the insight. Guess I'm fucked either way.
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>>34843231
It's the stateless, classless, moneyless utopia that would occur in a post scarcity society after socialism. There are several different theoretical socialist models. One of the common traits between them is the idea that private(not personal) property should not be owned by individuals.
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>>34843267
>Communism was the brainchild of Karl Marx
lolno, Marx invented Marxism but Communism was already a thing before him.
>Where the means of production would be owned by everybody (the state)
Marx wanted the state to dissolve under his idea of a communist society.
>by making regular capitalistic society so terrible
I don't even know where you got this from, all Marx wanted was for the workers to unite and revolt
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