If you want to consume goods and services then you need to work.

Because it is that same system that has exiled us from itself. And because we are exiled into nowhere, there's few things we can do. Easy way out is to just reap the few benefits that the system provides to people like us.

And anyway, soon enough automatization and robotics will replace a huge chunk of the working population, which means that welfare will not only become common, it will be the norm.

Take your outdated archaic socioeconomic system somewhere else. It is people like you that are delaying the inevitable future, a future that will undoubtedly be better for all.

But I bet you will reply to this post in anger because we are leeching off "hardworking" people like yourself huh. All because of a deeply-rooted resentment you have against this very system, because it has undoubtedly failed you as well (why are you here, otherwise?)

>>34752005
Fuck off with your collectivist rethoric. Society may as well go to shit after I'm death. What do I care?

>>34752297

Collectivist? This is individualism. Capitalism. Free markets are based upon individuals trading their specialized labor because it allows them to consume a grater array of goods then if they had to produce everything themselves.

I immediately started looking for an oats joke in OP pic

>>34752377
so why make it about the collective then?
we live in the world we live in. might as well exploit it to the max.

>>34752377
>he thinks material wealth is worth anything
>he imposes materialism over anything

>>34752446

Well you are wealthy insofar as you can command the goods and services of others, so it can be worth a lot in that regard.

Materialism? That's just how an economy works. If you'd prefer to go back to hunting and gathering then be my guest, but the only way to organize a modern economy is by people specializing in what they are good at and trading for what others are good at.

>>34752005
Wagecucks are wagecucks because they are modern-day Serfs. They rent the means of production from their boss(es), tithing out 100% of their salary to said boss(es), only to beg or bargain him(them) for x amount of charity so you don't starve to death.
>>>>"Please, oh please, pay me x amount, my lord. Although 'tis much to ask, my lord, 'tis only but a fraction of all the value I create and pay to thee both in labor and in rent for thy one room apartment you've graciously allowed me to dwell in. No pinko are I, sir, but 'tis only fair.
>>>"No, fuck off. Talk like that again and I'll fire you and hire someone who'll do your job for less."
>"O-ok, this is the only job I can find s-so I'll zip my trap."

Respectfully, leave this board and take your libertarian naivety with you.

If wagecuckery was truly necessary then standards for finding a job wouldn't be so retardedly high. I have tried to find a job and nobody wanted me. Fine. I'll wake up at 10am and drink hot cocoa and spend my days in comfy bliss until the time comes when society actually needs more workers. When it does, they can call me. Until then, I'll be a safe, contented NEET.

>>34752604
*of any value their labor produces

>>34752005
And I'm not a NEET either. I'll get a job eventually if you haven't done too much damage you sick, sick man. God will punish you. You will burn!
>Ignore the last part if you're not the person it was meant for. You'd know if it was.

>>34752442
>not having filled maslow's heirarchy of needs
>not skipping the steps to self-actualization
get off my board u fucking casual

>>34752604
You do realize if you make above min wage you can save up and buy your own machinery/means of production right?
>tfw to smart 2 do n e thing besides spout commie propoganda

>>34752377.
Capitalism--100% private ownership. That has nothing to do with individualism--look at the idea of the stock market--or the liberalist idea of specialization, lest we forget about mercantilism.
FYI, Capitalism doesn't have a monopoly on the idea of specialization.
Communism, socialism, syndicalism all call for specialization and probably more so than Capitalism since there are no pesky fineprint barriers of entry to your Free-Market Utopia like economies of scale.

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>>34752685

>maslow's hierachy of needs

This is what so many people on this board are missing. They're thinking way past the horizon. Get 8 hours of sleep and a nutritious diet. After that, find some way to have a secure stream of income. Then maybe just find a couple of steam friends to play with and you'll be 250% better off then you were before.

Throw in a minimal 3x a week strength training regimen in there and you could probably get some non-roastie chick with ease.

>>34752793

Yeah, all capital is people foregoing consumption of the proceeds of their own labor to employ more labor. I think Marx himself called capital "dead labor" or something of the sort.

>>34752793
Yeah, you can buy your means of production and then get crushed by your old boss's megacorp because of it's sheer scale.