Why is /r9k/ so leftist? The left is literally being used by

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>>34725286
>bunch of societally worthless NEETs who leech off others
>why is /r9k/ so leftist

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Leftist propaganda polls

>>34725286
I want UBI and Universal Healthcare. But SJWs can go fuck their retarded ass selves

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>>34725286
Fuck off, /pol/. Nobody here wants to convert to your meme ideology

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>>34725301
Don't get me wrong, I am a NEET. But I am also aware of what's going on in the world.

I am completely unbiased. I am incapable of competing in economy due to my mental issues and genetic shortcomings, but even with all that against me, I still understand that the left is total scum and is being used as a spear to destroy western civilization.

That said, I can't stand leftist blatant lies and contradictions.

>>34725286

Reddit is constantly raiding us

>>34725348
>the left
As in American retard politics or globally?

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>>34725359
This thread is proof of reddit raiding us

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>>34725286
>russian shills wasting time with divide and conquer tactics on a bunch of neets who dont care about society

there is no "leftist" boogeyman here. /r9k/ shit all over obongo, now it's shitting all over trump

>>34725359
So /pol/? Reddit even has a /pol/ 2.0

>>34725301
What a meme, you might leech off of systems they support, but that doesn't mean you're one of them.

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>>34725365

Left = eastern civilization
Right = western civilization

>>34725348
>am completely unbiased
>I still understand that the left is total scum and is being used as a spear to destroy western civilization.
Oh alright buddy

>>34725379
/pol/ is pretty much Reddit these days, sadly. The board got flooded because of Trumptard attentionwhoring and r/The donald

>>34725394
Where did I claim that NEETs are a part of society?

I'm not a "leftist" nor am I right-wing. I simply don't care about politics, I don't care about the world or what other people are doing. There are the ones with power and those without, if you weren't born into power then you will never have any influence, no matter how much you label yourself in accordance to you meaningless political beliefs. You're tools, wake up you fucking idiots.

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The elite are all about transcendence and living forever and the secrets of the universe and they want to know all this, some are good some are bad some are a mix; but the good ones don't ever want to organize, the bad ones tend to want to organize because they lust after power. Powerful consciousnesses don't want to dominate other people, they want to empower them so they don't tend to get together until things are really late in the game, then they come together and evil is always defeated. Because good is so much stronger. And we're on this planet and Einstein's physics showed it, Max Planck's physics showed it- there's at least twelve dimensions. And now that's all the top scientists and billionaires are coming out and saying it's a false hologram, it is artificial, the computers are scanning it and finding tension points where it's artificially projected and gravity is bleeding in to this universe. That's what they call dark matter. So we're like a thought or a dream that's a wisp in a computer program, some God's mind, whatever. They're proving it all, it's all coming out.

>>34725286
Because the right likes eugenics and the slaughter of the Untermenches
Guess what fucking robots are? The genetic trash of society. At least lefties will give us welfare and leave us alone, /pol/tards would just herd us into the camps.

>>34725422
Now, there's like this subtransmission zone below the third dimension that's just turned over to the most horrible things, it's what it resonates to, and it's trying to get up into the third dimension; that's just a basic level consciousnesses, to launch up into the next levels. Our species is already way up at the fifth, sixth dimension consciously, our best people. But there's this big war trying to basically destroy humanity because humanity has free will and there's a decision to which level we want to go to. We have free will so evil is allowed to come in and contend and not just good. And the elites themselves believe they're racing using human technology to try to take our best minds and build some type of breakaway civilization where they're going to merge with machines, transcend and breakaway from the failed species that is Man. Which is kind of like a false transmission because they're thinking what they are is ugly and bad; projecting it onto themselves instead of believing no, it's a human test about building us up.

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>>34725420
>if you weren't born into power then you will never have any influence
That's what coups and military careers are for, dingus.

>>34725422
>>34725431
And so Google was set up 18, 19 years ago so that they wanted to build a giant artificial system. And Google believes the first artificial intelligence will be a supercomputer based on the neuron activities of the hive mind of humanity, with billions of people wired into it with the internet of things, and so all of our thoughts go into it and we're actually building a computer with real neurons in real-time that's also psychically connected to us that are organic creatures so that they will have current prediction powers, future prediction powers- a true crystal ball- but the big secret is once you have a crystal ball and know the future you can add stimuli beforehand and make decisions and control the future. And so then it's the end of consciousness and free will for individuals as we know and a true 2.0 in a very bad way hive mind consciousness with an AI jacked into everyone knowing our hopes and dreams, delivering it to us not in some P.KD. wirehead system where we plug in and give up on consciousness because of unlimited pleasure but because we were already wired in and absorbed before we knew it by giving over our consciousness to this system by our daily decisions that it was able to manipulate and control into a larger system.

>>34725407
>Where did I claim that NEETs are a part of society?
Neck yourself, society is the reason you're not laying dead on the street, just because you don't contribute to it, doesn't mean you're not part of it.

>>34725440
>coups and military careers
>influence

>>34725422
>>34725286
>>34725348
People like you make be believe that more virgins come from the right than left. All you faggots care about is hatred, disgust, and destruction. And then you switch boards to complain why you were never kissed before. /pol/ and r9k are different in many ways, but the one thing they have in common is that 99% of posters are lonely virgins. While this doesn't have to define who you are, it does reflect on what kind of personality you have, and most of yall have really really terrible mindsets.

>>34725286
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>>34725422
wtf i'm right-wing now

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>>34725286
>The fact you cannot even see the blatant constant barrage of propaganda being thrown at you to hate white people, hate trump, hate western civilization

Why do white people think they suffer the same or worse discrimination as they do onto people of color or non-Christian?

>>34725286
>The left
who?

>>34725429
The right will give you a job and make you productive and make you stop wanting to KYS. They right wants you to succeed. The right wants you to be chad and to rise above and be successful in life.


The left will hand you a few bucks for your vote and they benefit in you staying POOR and in a ZOMBIE like state FOREVER. They don't want you to succeed, they want you to fail so you can vote for them, they transfer all of your jobs over-seas, they import votes through immigration from 3rd world countries.

>>34725464
/pol/ is like that Chad that defended you in high school.

>>34725451
>society is the reason you're not laying dead on the street
Nah, I'd just join others in building a new one. Would at least be interested in something for once.
>just because you don't contribute to it, doesn't mean you're not part of it.
If you don't contribute, don't interact and simply sit in your room, collecting neetbux while rotting away, I do not think you are truly a part of society. You are simply leeching off it and living in its side.

>>34725473
>>>/mudhut/
You can always go back.

>>34725440
>let's put another power-hungry individual in power to replace another power-hungry individual and get people killed in the process

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As far as I am concerned having, or even worse, showing any kind of political sympathy makes you a dirty normalfag.

How stupid do you have to be to fall for the same shit over and over?

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>>34725484
>Nah, I'd just join others in building a new one
I don't think it's that simple.

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>>34725286
>Why is /r9k/ so leftist?
because to be left-leaning is a better long-term plan for individual happiness and collective health and economic success than conservative ideology

That said, I agree with you. Liberals today in 2017 are as memey and retarded as we all made conservatives out to be in the early 00s. You guys remember back in childhood when you expected right-wingers to be like dumb senseless children with their thumbs in their ears? I feel like the riots at Berkeley really spelled out how much the tables have turned.

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>>34725422
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>>34725449
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUIcCyPOA30&t

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>>34725492
Yes and what about it?

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>>34725490
>"Im okay with racism, unless it hurts my feelings"

- White people

>>34725449
Y u copy paste the Jre?

>>34725504
It quite simply is. Humans are tribal by nature and forming bonds with complete strangers is very easy so long as they do not have a pre-existing group of their own, eg. society. You can see this best in militaries, where random people are taken from all around society, stripped of their pre-existing groups and put together.

>>34725286
>implying the elite are only controlling half of the population

This premise is shockingly retarded yet somehow virtually everyone manages to believe it.

>>34725513
>complaining about white people and feelings
Nice meme, it's mostly whites who put up with your shit. And now that they've voted for Trump you're trying to make them look like the devil.

>>34725513
Ooga booga where da whait wimminz at?
-shitskins

Everything is racist and white supremacy (unless of course it furthers the leftist agenda haha XD)

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>>34725480
>The right will give you a job and make you productive and make you stop wanting to KYS. They right wants you to succeed. The right wants you to be chad and to rise above and be successful in life.
Nice lies you faggot. The right knows we CAN'T ever be Chad. You think I don't see through your shit?
I've seen /pol/ preach the "We'll give you a job and a wife and a house and a family! The American dream!"
And then they turn around and go "Also gas the degenerates, the spergs, the lazy and the homeless."
Guess what? I'm a degenerate, ugly sperg.
Under a /pol/ government I'd be killed. I wouldn't get a wife. They wouldn't even bother giving me a job.
All real robots are objectively genetic trash, do you really think we would fall for your shilling when you WORSHIP Chad?
Also
>The right wants you to be Chad
Too bad, Chad is 100% genetics and upbringing, after the age of 16 if you aren't already a Chad you will never be Chad unless you have god tier 11/10 genetics and just had a bad childhood.

Also
>right will give you a job and make your productive
I'm not going to be your slave labour faggot.
Burning civilization down is the only political aim a real robot has and the left is going to do that the fastest.

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>>34725557
/pol/ is not a single person, doofus.

>>34725473
>Why do white people think they suffer the same or worse discrimination as they do onto people of color or non-Christian?
White guilt

>>34725525
>thinking he can create his own society and survive without the money jew at their side
>>34725557
>Also gas the degenerates, the spergs, the lazy and the homeless
Your fault for being one of those things. Just stop it and get your shit together lainposter.

>>34725535
>it's mostly whites who put up with your shit.

Blacks have been putting up with whites' shit for over 400 years. All white people to is treat blacks like subhumans, complain, and cry when they're called out on it.

>And now that they've voted for Trump you're trying to make them look like the devil

Drumpf fags are so delusional they think Trump speaks for all the people, when clearly he doesn't. He'll only speak for the white and rich

>>34725545
proves my point

>>34725557
The "free" money the left is using to bribe you and other mongoloids for votes is going to run out soon, you realise this right? It wont last forever.

You're literally handing these shadow elites power in exchange for a few dollars, that's not going to last forever.

They don't give shit about you.

Why do you think they bring in so many immigrants and hand them access to cash, housing, etc? Because they want that vote. The poor and homeless are getting FUCKED by the left, and you can't even see it.

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>>34725631
>proves my point
About what? Nobody actually caring about niggers? Not even the Democrat shits who intentionally keep the blacks down with gibsmedats and only import Mexicans for votes and cheap labour?
Why do you think people should give a fuck about racism?

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>>34725557
>They wouldn't even bother giving me a job.
>implying a degenerate sperg would work

>>34725631
>Drumpf fags are so delusional they think Trump speaks for all the people, when clearly he doesn't. He'll only speak for the white and rich


I'm white, Australian, middle-class family. Every Trump has said resonates with me and my entire family.

Middle-class from all western countries have had it with the left.

>>34725641
>It wont last forever.

Why not? More and more work is automated, so the economy absolutely needs more NEETs to function.

>>34725482
What?????

/pol/ is like that disabled kid who would always sit in his own little corner during lunch, blurting out racist slurs every few seconds. But in his mind, he would believe that he was giving en eloquent speech about how white people are vastly superior to blacks.

And there was a Chad who helped me out in high school, with girls. He was a tyrone. There's no chance in hell a chad could be analogous to /pol/.

>>34725472
I guess you guys dont really hide the shilling anymore huh

>>34725631
>Drumpf fags are so delusional they think Trump speaks for all the people
No, just for the whites, the only people that matter, the majority.

>>34725650
>Why do you think people should give a fuck about racism?

By that logic, you shouldn't complain when about "muh ((((("reverse"racism)))) "

>>34725656
>I'm white, Australian, middle-class family

Exactly. Proves my point.

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>>34725578
>>/pol/ is not a single person, doofus.
>literally using the "N-Not all muslims are terrorists!" tier argument
F-, see me after class.

>>34725625
>Your fault for being one of those things.
Good to see you don't understand genetic determinism and how a person's future is pretty much set in stone before they can even reach independence from their parents, therefore being something they had no control over whatsoever.
>Just stop it and get your shit together lainposter.
Oh right sorry, I'll JUST GO OUT AND DO IT then. It's so clear to me now, thank normie for your advice!

>>34725641
>that's not going to last forever.
That's the point, burn it down.
>They don't give shit about you.
Neither do you, you just pretend to like the left pretends to.

>>34725655
>>implying a degenerate sperg would work
That's kind of the point, you know we wont so you'd just kill us, yet you lie through your teeth pretending you won't.

>>34725482
Chad is smart, /pol/ isn't.

>>34725670
>/pol/ is like that disabled kid who would always sit in his own little corner during lunch, blurting out racist slurs every few seconds
That's /r9k/, minus maybe the racist part.

>>34725657
>>34725657
Social security simply cannot work in the long-term. There becomes too many people that need it, and there isn't enough to go around. Therefore the money runs out.

Governments around the world have already started restricting stuff like aged pension to people born before a certain date, because if they don't do this, the costs of welfare will become so high that it will require an entire nations budget just to keep up.......and soon after that countries will end up going deep into the red just to sustain their welfare state.


Im telling you mate, I literally collect NEET bux, and even I know how detrimental this is to me and the country as a whole.

I only take it because everyone else is......i so I do it. But I wouldn't be pissed off if they remove it completely, because I know it's fucking horrible for ME and for society in general.

>>34725698
>By that logic, you shouldn't complain when about "muh ((((("reverse"racism)))) "
No, what I meant is why the racist group should give a fuck about racism towards a minority. Like, why the fuck should I as a white guy care about niggers being mistreated when they have no place here?

>>34725701
>Good to see you don't understand genetic determinism
Shut up, you talk too much and do too little, self improvement isn't a meme robot, you can at least try to get rid of the degenerate part of you and get /fit/. Remember, traps are gay.

>>34725701
>F-, see me after class.
Oh, so you're retarded.
>literally using the "N-Not all muslims are terrorists!" tier argument
Except that /pol/ is an anonymous board with anons from all around the world. There is nothing combining them except posting on the board.

>>34725734
What if he lacks the will to improve himself? What then? How do you will your own will to change, beyond its own capabilities?

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>>34725715
>Like, why the fuck should I as a white guy care about niggers being mistreated when they have no place here?

White people don't belong here either

the only "arguments" trump people are able to give can be summed up in "well, the libtards are crazy so", which just show how easily they were played by the media.

divide and conquer

>KEK LOVING THOSE LIBTARD TEARS KEK

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>>34725705
EXACTLY

/pol/ is literally r9k, except they extend their hatred to minorities instead of just women. Now you're getting it!

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>>34725751
>belong
That's not what I said, anon. There is no magical force of "belong" that determines where one group can rightfully remain in. Whites got rid of the Amerindians and became the de facto rulers of the US. That's it. Morality, righteousness, justice, whatever bullshit spooks you subscribe to have no effect on it.

>>34725709
>There becomes too many people that need it, and there isn't enough to go around.

Wrong. in 20 years or so, likely all the unskilled labor of today will be done by robots. All those unskilled workers will not get paid any longer. This in turn means that they will have any money to spend and so companies will make less money and have to cut employees to make ends meet, furthering the vicious cycle.

Therefore the economy relies on mcjobs and NEETs to keep demand high.

>>34725747
>What if he lacks the will to improve himself?
Lack of will is a meme, either you want change, or you don't. Where there is a will, there is a way, especially if it's something as simple and doable as getting /fit/ and quitting your degenerate addictions.
I believe in all robots.

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>>34725737
>There is nothing combining them except posting on the board.
Except for being majority right-leaning, to the point where anything even remotely to the left is considered to be an outside raid from /leftypol/.
Face it, /pol/ is a right wing echo chamber. Yet again you're using the
>W-We're not all nazis! See, 3% of us still cling to Libertarianism!

>>34725734
>self improvement isn't a meme robot
Coming from the mouth of someone who isn't a robot, your opinion on the matter is invalid. Robots can never use self improvement to become normal. "Just lift bro" is the biggest of normie memes and does jack fucking shit if you've got trash genes, which robots have.

>>34725775
>Whites got rid of the Amerindians and became the de facto rulers of the US.

>"Genocide and terrorism is only okay when white people do it! We are pure and stuff"

>dude the left is full of roasties and man haters lmao
Meanwhile the right literally wants to lobotomize and euthanize me because I'm nonwhite (regardless of how much I "dude just self improve yourself lmao")

Really gets the neurons firing

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>>34725797
>Lack of will is a meme, either you want change, or you don't
That's what I meant, anon. Will as in "will to live". The want, the motivations behind all our actions. If anon does not have the motivations or mindsets to change himself, then how could he change himself? Only external input can change this, but where will he find it, sitting in his room as a NEET?

>>34725819
You've been watching too much CNN.

>>34725798
>Except for being majority right-leaning, to the point where anything even remotely to the left is considered to be an outside raid from /leftypol/.
By retards, who still do not make up the entiret of the board. /pol/ is not a hivemind, you dumb avatarfagging, fuck.

>>34725819
No, they don't. You can be black and do something of value, and it will be valued.
But if you got a problem, you can always go back to Africa.
And if you're just a thug, then there's nothing wrong with wanting you shot.

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>>34725808
>okay
How fucking juvenile can your thinking be? Are you a woman maybe or underage? You have the mindset of a dumb, arrogant teenager.

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>>34725797
>I believe in all robots.
This just goes to show how little you understand robots then, you naive little normie. Scurry back to r/TheDonald now boy and stop shilling on my board.

>>34725835
>but where will he find it, sitting in his room as a NEET?
Clearly when the right wing death squad comes knocking to carry him off to the camps, duh. And then he'll totally reform and become a superchad, gain 6 inches of height, have his hair turn blonde, his eyes turn blue and pump out twelve aryan superkids with his wife!
>/pol/ actually believes this
>>34725850
>By retards, who still do not make up the entiret of the board.
>he think /pol/ isn't retarded and up their own ass huffing farts
Fuck off normie.

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>robots actually think the left gives a shit about them

>>34725755
Amazing how Trump supporters didn't reply to this. Made me think.

>>34725881
>Fuck off normie.
>m-muh normie
You say /pol/ is retarded and huffs its own farts, yet you are acting exactly as one of them. Congratulations, you're a retard.

>>34725881
You can be part of the right wing death squad and still be an autistic robot, I have yet to see robots or NEETs being made fun of on /pol/, in fact, it's much more savage here with NEETs and wagecucks.
/pol/ isn't one person.

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>>34725903
>/pol/tards think robots fall for their lies that they care about us
The left and right both care equally about robots, which is to say not at all.
We simply live a bit longer under leftism than being rushed to our deaths, plus we get to take the Chads with us in the big collapse.

>>34725914
>yet you are acting exactly as one of them
Sorry I called out out faggot, but it's really like to go back
>>>/r/TheDonald/

>>34725867
>You have the mindset of a dumb, arrogant teenager.

>>34725545
>>34725490
>"dude shitskins oga booga lmao"

right.

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>>34725927
>Sorry I called out out faggot, but it's really like to go back
Literally, word to word the typical retard/pol/e's post who can't form any cohesive or intelligent arguments.

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>>34725931
>right.
>racism and shitposting on a sockpuppet-masturbation aid forum are signs of a juvenile mindset
Maybe you're just stupid after all.

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There is a BOARD for POLITICAL DISCUSSION and its called /pol/. R9k is already getting worse everyday so please just go back to pol.

Most of /r9k/ is right wing.

>>34725927
Are you that underage, unironically homosexual lain-avatarfaggot from a while back?

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>>34725927
Let me tell you about these jews anon.

>>34725957
>Maybe you're just stupid after all.

>I deserve to shit-post, but no you

Uh-huh

>>34725398
You guys realize these big media outlets have multiple journalists with different opinions? And that they often try to diversify the opinions they put out? There's no central guiding ideology at CNN.

because /lgbt/ and tumblr scum think they are welcome here. If anything a real robot is apolitical and a misanthrope

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>>34725981
>merely pretending
lol

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>>34725976
/r9k/ and /pol/ are allies
Our longing for the release from our shekels is equally strong.

>>34725839
>You've been watching too much CNN.
I literally do not watch television unless it's local public access tv about city council.


My source for that assertion is /pol9k/.

>>34725860
I'm not black though

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>>34725286
Don't even bother, OP. /r9k/ is beyond saving now.
With the influx of normies, faggots, tumblr, "fembots" and lefties the board is pretty much dead.

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>>34726036
Applies to pretty much the entire site, actually.

>>34726036
Do not give up the fight.

>>34725286
The american left isn't even a real left.

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Because rightists worship weakness and hate success.

Right wingers think that white men are inherently superior because they are meek, submissive, and feminine. They think that black men are inherently inferior because they are dominant, masculine, and virile. They see the fact that /r9k/ types are disproportionately white as proof that there is a Jewish conspiracy against white men. When they see white women acting of their own accord and dating black men, they see it as proof that there is a Jewish conspiracy to push race mixing. They simply cannot accept that the playing field is level, and white men losing out is their own fault.

You know Slate isn't just one person.

>>34726005
>merely pretending

Except my posts were more satirical, but still holds a point. You can't call out on how I argue with you when you don't offer a serious argument and just use ad hominems and slurs. "Shitposting" doesn't always mean trolling

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>>34726059
Wouldn't dream of it.

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>>34726102
How you argue is to spout out a bunch of juvenile moral platitudes of "belonging" "okay" "shouldn't", which amount to nothing more than stating what you personally feel is correct, which is why I asked you if you're a woman in the first place.

>>34725398
>China could afford to adhere to leftist ideals

>>34726140
>How you argue is to spout out a bunch of juvenile moral platitudes of "belonging" "okay" "shouldn't"

>I don't like these words or your opinion, so Im gonna assume you have no argument

Rightty-o

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>>34725286
practice what you preach
blox

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>>34726212
Spouting out your feelings like a (dumb) woman is not an argument. I know this is how all too many people function, but that doesn't give it any validity.

/pol/ told me that the west is controlled by Jewish communists, and I quite like my standard of living, especially compared to countries that aren't run by Jews, so I'm a globalist communist Zionist now desu.

>class war when

I actually want it tbqh

>>34725286
It's not.
Being more left than you doesn't make me left at all.
Center-right libertarian is the voice of reason.
Read the road to serfdom.

>>34726240
>Spouting out your feelings like a (dumb) woman is not an argument.

Never did that though

>but that doesn't give it any validity.

Neither does being condencending and spout slurs

>>34725286
Its not. Shit reddit says spams dozens of leftist threads a day but they mostly get negative responses

>>34725992
lol sjw shill go back to tumblr xD

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>>34726285
>i read some politicized pop literature book and now i know everything there is to know

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>>34726305
>Never did that though
You tried to argue through appeals to morality and emotion. I consider that spouting out your emotions, unless you are simply taking a stance you yourself don't believe in.
>Neither does being condencending and spout slurs
Which is relevant, how, exactly? You are the one posting non-arguments. There is no need for me to attempt to refute something that does not make a point.

>>34726232
D-DELETE THIS LIBT-T-TARD

MMM DELICIOUS T-T-TEARS

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>>34725286
To intelligent to be a rightard, I wouldn't mind trump if his fan base wasn't full of retarded rednecks who treat him like the second coming of Jesus.

The man is a clown and has no idea what he's doing, unfortunately rightards are so drawn in by his racism and stern demeanor that they treat him like god and won't back down to ever disagree with him.

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>>34726232
DELETE THISSSSS FUCCCCCKK

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>>34726085
That picture and post is spot on. White "men" know its over, voting trump was their last hoorah.


10/10

>>34726085
>They think that black men are inherently inferior because they are dominant, masculine, and virile
Are you retarded? White men hate you because you leech off of the system and commit the most crime.
>>>/ghetto/

>>34726330
I'm a law major with a minor in economics.
And i live in a country full of nazis and commies.

>>34726505
I feel sorry for you, polak.

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>>34726495
It's honestly no wonder the niggers are niggers when their notion of masculinity is being a sub-100 IQ thug whose greatest achievements are robbing a 7/11, fucking white whores and dealing drugs.

>>34726371
the point of the "im silly" comics is of course to be unabashedly strawmanning, but this one is just exceptionally bad. nazi = natsoc. natsoc has been the rallying call of /pol/. literally none of them deny being nazis. also natsoc =/= evil incarnate.

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>>34726495
Insecure white boy.

>>34726350
>You tried to argue through appeals to morality and emotion.

You bring up on how I argue instead of refuting the argument. I believe you don't have no place to point it out since your past posts are shitposting. You speak as if you have a high ground, which you yourself have not prove yet that you're the wiser

That's why I said you're being condescending

>>34726558
Not an argument, but a nigger like you doesn't care.

>>34726582
I'm white, I'm just not mentally ill enough to value weakness like most right wingers.

>>34726429
there are 3 options behind this post

>you are nonwhite
in this case you're not saying anything about whether you're truly ideologically left or right wing. I would assume right wing, and you really have nothing against trump, if you were white you'd hail him as even more of a god than most of the ardent supporters you hate do.
>you are white
you have some weird complex and you like shitposting (this is r9k I guess)
>you think you are a white liberal
yet you believe in racialist pseudoscience

any which way feel free to fuck off

>>34726558
>>34726597
if you hate yourself then why don't you off yourself

>>34726597
So you're a massive cuck, okay.

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>>34726575
>You bring up on how I argue instead of refuting the argument.
An appeal to emotions or morality is not an argument. It is a logical fallacy, a non-argument that you cannot properly refute, since there is nothing to refute in the first place.
>I believe you don't have no place to point it out since your past posts are shitposting.
Oh, look, you're doing it again. Spouting out your own emotions and points of view like they have any value.
>You speak as if you have a high ground, which you yourself have not prove yet that you're the wiser
Yes, it's a good argumentational method, especially in debates. Though naturally I kick it up a notch to arrogance due to the anonymous nature of the board. I am right and it is your job to disprove me. Not that there's much to disprove, what with you just repeating the same old complaints of
>I think, I believe, from my point of view, according to my moral standards
Naturally not in those words, but it's all the same.

>That's why I said you're being condescending
Yes, I am being condescending. Why would I not be? Why would I care about you finding me condescending? Based on your posts, you are stupid or foolish, maybe both, doesn't make much of a difference.

>>34726645
I put off killing myself by one week for every (you) I get.

>>34726680
I want you to maintain your pathetic and painful existence

>>34726680
Suffer for long.

>>34725698
You assume fairness is a real thing and that I care about it, why?

>>34726371
>le voice of reason snake

>>34725286
First off
>world government
>bad

Nation-states are a meme.

About /r9k/: 4chan is inherently contrarian, some boards more than others. The one who hates normies the most is /r9k/, so it makes sense for robots to be the first to see the majority opinion as bad. /r9k/ just hate whoever is in power. Soon it will happen to other boards too

>>34726659
>We're having an argument
>Stop sharing your opinions!!!!!!!!

Do... do you know what an argument is? Do you not realize that this is the point?

Are you baiting? I find it hard to believe that anyone is genuinely this stupid. I lost brain cells from reading your posts.

I'm not even the person you're replying to, btw.

>>34726717
Low levels of moral development, juvenile thought process, or stupidity. Make your pick.

>>34726659
>An appeal to emotions or morality is not an argument. It is a logical fallacy, a non-argument that you cannot properly refute, since there is nothing to refute in the first place.

Just like saying "lol shitskins" and "I was just pretending dude lmao"

>Oh, look, you're doing it again. Spouting out your own emotions and points of view like they have any value.

Stating my belief =/= emotional
I have no state on how I feel about your opposing arguments

>Yes, it's a good argumentational method
Not if you're in the wrong or not yet given valid points

>I am right and it is your job to disprove me
About what?

>lol shitskins back 2 affikka XD XD XD XD ;)

>Yes, I am being condescending. Why would I not be? Why would I care about you finding me condescending?

Why should I care what you think if you don't care what I think? Again, you've been shitposting and spouting slurs and you have the nerve to call me the stupid one? Pot calling kettle black, Anon

>>34726750
>world government
>bad
Yes, you can be a dirt-eater with everyone else instead of just being one alone.

>>34725775
then should not bitch when it happens to you remember what is good for the goose is good for the gander

>>34726717
>You assume fairness is a real thing and that I care about it, why?

Then up yours

>>34726752
This guy gets it.

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>>34726752
>Do... do you know what an argument is?
ESL?
>A reason or set of reasons given in support of an idea, action or theory:
An appeal to morality or emotions is not a valid, logical argument, since both emotions and morality are extremely subjective and because of that subjectivity there is no way to refute them with objectivity. They are quite essentially the end point of a debate, where arguments can no longer apply and one must either turn to appeals to emotions in an attempt at changing one's mind, or just abandon the debate altogether.
They are a non-argument and thus there is nothing to form an argument against.
>Do you not realize that this is the point?
For anon to repeatedly state his own morals and subjective views as if they had any meaning to me? Just going on and on about nothing at all?

>>34726841
>Just like saying "lol shitskins" and "I was just pretending dude lmao"
No, those are not non-arguments in the same manner, as they were never presented as arguments, Redditard. An insult, for example is not an ad hominem if it is not used as an attempt of discrediting the opposing side's view.
>Stating my belief =/= emotional
I never said you are being emotional, I said you are spouting your emotions and beliefs, which I would argue are very similiar, both finding their roots in instincts.
>Not if you're in the wrong or not yet given valid points
Valid points against what? You have not provided a single argument to refute.
>About what?
I was speaking in general.

>Why should I care what you think if you don't care what I think?
I never said you should. Why would you assume I do, after all this time I've spent pecking at you doing it?
>Again, you've been shitposting and spouting slurs and you have the nerve to call me the stupid one?
Do tell me how shitposting and slurs make someone stupid. This is an anonymous imageboard. I have no need to protect my image or attempt to fit in, since there are absolutely no consequences of note.

>>34726961
Autism is a world

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>>34727090
>stupid people think logical thought is autism

>>34726961
You can't have a political discussion without agreeing on the subjective premise of what the goal of government should be.

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>>34727907
>you can't have a political discussion about what the goal of government is

>>34727968
You can't for the reasons you stated yourself, you obtuse animeposter.

It is a matter of subjective opinion.

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>>34728437
>can't
Oh, is God himself going to stop me or something? Will something stop me from speaking or typing out words?
>It is a matter of subjective opinion.
Yes and? Nothing is stopping you from discussing the matter, even if the discussion is nothing else than two parties agreeing to disagree.
You should stop trying so hard.

>>34725557
>Guess what? I'm a degenerate, ugly sperg.
that's why you need to be gassed.

There's no world in which you will be happy. The /pol/ fascist utopia where normies are all married and having kids deny your existence.
But what can be said of a sexually free market? Do you think any valuable female will want to spend any time with you?

Do you want to live such a life of suffering or take the sweet release of death knowing that others more prepared than you will thrive, that humanity will progress?

>>34728546
Agreeing to disagree is not a discussion.

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>>34728622
>The action or process of talking about something in order to reach a decision or to exchange ideas:

>>34728653
>the act of pedantically clinging to irrelevant details to save face while posting images to convey an attitude of indifference while having a tab open to ensure getting the last word

what is, being you?

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>>34728695
If you find that detail irrelevant, why did you bring it up?
>>34728622

>>34725394
Then you're just a hypocritical parasite with no worth. And since you don't contribute to society you get no say in the way it operates

>>34728724
because it depends on what definition of discussion you use.

you were berating some guy for 'not using rational arguments', simply for stating his opinion on what the goal of government should be, missing the fact that it is necessary to do so, before you can start exchanging arguments, which is what I meant with discussion.

>>34728754
>And since you don't contribute to society you get no say in the way it operates
You can still vote, you have an equal say.

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>>34728793
>simply for stating his opinion on what the goal of government should be,
No? Could you quote it for me, because I have absolutely no recollection of doing that.

>>34725927
>Big Collapse
if that happens then Chads will rule in a ruthless fascist / feudal society (whatever you want to call it) and spergs will be gone for good.

The fact that you only want to destroy everything that's good because you aren't happy with the cards you got in life proves how undesirable for any society you are. So is it bad to want to get rid of you? I think you have to agree that it's the only logical outcome for any sensible ruler, left or right. In fact, communism would see you gulag'd faster than one can say "hegel".

At least some of the other robots have some nobility and understand that while they are not savable, they can bring along something better.

>>34728822

>>34725867
>How fucking juvenile can your thinking be? Are you a woman maybe or underage? You have the mindset of a dumb, arrogant teenager.

in response to

>"Genocide and terrorism is only okay when white people do it!

>>34728546
Are you one of those people who are really ugly, autistic, and asocial but think that they make up for it with their intelligence but in reality are fucking stupid? You seem like one of those people.

>>34725506
>because to be left-leaning is a better long-term plan for individual happiness and collective health and economic success than conservative ideology
This has been demonstrated to be wrong.

URSS - failed state.
Mao's China - failed state.
Venezuela - failing hard right now.
South West Europe - standards of living falling lower and lower, depression at an all time high.

Even in the US, left-leaning policies since the 1970s have brought a steady decline in women's happiness.

>>34726539
>literally proving the memes right

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>all these triggered cumskins ITT

Oh boy.

>>34725751
I'm yuropoor and you fucks are in my country, shut the fuck up.

>>34726371
If you don't find the vast majority of people of any side of the political spectrum stupid, you're not "too intelligent" for anything.

Anyone under 130 IQ is barely sentient, and 150 IQ should be the basis for being allowed to have an opinion on social matters. This idiocracy is killing us all, even all of you retards.

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>>34728896
That is not about the goal of government. That is about the morality of genocide and I insulted her for thinking in terms of morality like that, because she made a terrible, shitty strawman, implying I'd claimed genocide is "okay when white people do it".

>>34728915
>Are you one of those people who are really ugly, autistic, and asocial
One out of three. I'm pretty asocial.
>think that they make up for it with their intelligence but in reality are fucking stupid?
No, I make up for what I lack by trying to improve my appearance. As I said, I'm not autistic.

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>>34725631
>unironical white guilt nigger shitposter

>>34725303
hmm its almost like those polls were predicting the popular vote (which hillary won)

hmmm rly makes u think

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>>34729104
>how to bait /pol/ 101

>>34729059
>That is not about the goal of government.

Yes, it is. It is not directly stated as such, but it does imply the opinion that genocide should be considered criminal.

If you respond with

>this is just your subjecitve opinion

instead of

>that is a strawman

then you cannot fault the poster for arguing correctly, because no argument is possible when you disagree on the premise.

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>>34729154
>Yes, it is.
No, it's not. It's a really shitty strawman that I'd expect from some dumb 16-year-old slut.
>It is not directly stated as such, but it does imply the opinion that genocide should be considered criminal.
It is not directly stated, or even hinted towards, so it has absolutely no relevance to the discussion.

>then you cannot fault the poster for arguing correctly, because no argument is possible when you disagree on the premise.
The argument was not on the goal of government. No matter how many times you say it was, reality is not going to change.
>>34725775
>That's not what I said, anon. There is no magical force of "belong" that determines where one group can rightfully remain in. Whites got rid of the Amerindians and became the de facto rulers of the US. That's it. Morality, righteousness, justice, whatever bullshit spooks you subscribe to have no effect on it.

Stop this ludicrous damage control and do a better job next time.

>>34729048
I think proper education would go far in making the general population wiser. Stupidity can not be corrected, but at least they can be taught some beneficial and functional schemas. Basic logic and rhetoric, like the Greeks used to teach, should be taught throughout school.

>>34729251
>The argument was not on the goal of government. No matter how many times you say it was, reality is not going to change.

It doesn't matter if you are too stupid to follow it to its conclusion.

>that's just your subjective opinion

makes any discussion, including a completely abstract one on ethics, impossible.

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>>34729341
>It doesn't matter if you are too stupid to follow it to its conclusion.
There is no point on following it to its supposed conclusion. She made no implication of wanting to discuss the goal of government, so I did not venture there. It's highly unproductive to establish axioms, basic human instincts, emotions, social conventions and so forth at the start of every discussion, would you not think so? I especially see no point in doing so when the opposite party is simply strawmanning.
>makes any discussion, -- impossible.
Not impossible. Nothing is stopping you from having a logically unsound discussion, or simply exchanging ideas based solely on your emotions and instincts. Everything outside of cogito ergo sum is uncertain after all, yet we still take the leap of faith.
>including a completely abstract one on ethics
Not really. You can still very well discuss ethics itself. Where do they come from? How and why do they differ? Do objective values exist or not?
Discussing the value of values themselves is naturally quite difficult, as we humans have no method of perceiving the validity or objectivity of values and thus are left no other option but to present our instincts and emotions. Not that there is anything inherently wrong with that and it can be quite productive as well, in the context of intellectual and emotional development and maturation.

>>34729604
>There is no point on following it to its supposed conclusion. She made no implication of wanting to discuss the goal of government

When you mention what you think is okay you are touching on the application of force. A government is simply a collective application of force.

For instance
>niggers should be strung up
=
>I suggest we come together and string up niggers

>genocide is not okay
=
>I do not think genocide should be allowed

>Nothing is stopping you from having a logically unsound discussion

Again that is really irrelevant. You criticized the poster for not making a rational argument, but any rational argument would be impossible to make, given that you disagreed on the premise.

>Not really. You can still very well discuss ethics itself. Where do they come from?

That is a different discussion from
>what ethics are valid
which again touch upon the application of force.

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>>34729789
>When you mention what you think is okay you are touching on the application of force. A government is simply a collective application of force.
And is not at the core of the argument, so moving onto the topic of government would have been digressing from the "discussion". Had she wanted to discuss government, she would have said so.
This is quite common in conversations, where the subject is not changed erratically in a continuous fashion and if it is done, a few words are often spared to imply the change of subject. It's quite an effective way of ensuring all parties know what is being discussed and can follow the discussion well. Do I need to explain this further, or did you understand it?

>You criticized the poster for not making a rational argument
No. I did not truly criticize her, but I did point out her multiple strawman fallacies, her being a stupid cunt, her making blatantly incorrect statements about my posting capabilities (like you are doing, I guess you're the same person), then stated out she has not made a single argument against me when she tried to defend her way of arguing.
>but any rational argument would be impossible to make, given that you disagreed on the premise.
Yet she kept posting fallacies and making piss-poor attempts at arguments, making me reply and rile her up further. She could easily have referred to my obvious denial of morality and spooks, etc. and realised our views differ on an intrinsic level, but she didn't, because she is stupid and that is what half my posts and the core of this discussion have been about. Calling her dumb for my own amusement.

I also at no point tried to make a serious argument. As I've said multiple times in this post chain, I'm shitposting.

>liberalism is leftism

You amerifags need to stop this meme.

>>34730181
>And is not at the core of the argument

It is essencially exactly the same.

>No. I did not truly criticize her

>How you argue is to spout out a bunch of juvenile moral platitudes of "belonging" "okay" "shouldn't", which amount to nothing more than stating what you personally feel is correct,
>Spouting out your feelings like a (dumb) woman is not an argument.
>You tried to argue through appeals to morality and emotion.
>An appeal to emotions or morality is not an argument

Nowhere in any of your post do you mention being strawmanned. You do however insist on the poster not making a valid argument.

It is this insistence that made me reply to you in the first place, to let you know how foolish it is to rebuke someone for not making a rational argument, when the making of such an argument requires you to agree on the premises on which the argument is to be made.

>Why do you think people should give a fuck about racism?

And here you asking the poster to provide a rational argument to back up his opinion, another impossibility, which convinces me that you did infact not understand what I pointed out to you.

>I also at no point tried to make a serious argument. As I've said multiple times in this post chain, I'm shitposting.

Good, because you couldn't possible.

>>34725286
>leftists
>r9k

Even hippies get pussy. Autistic virgins don't.

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>>34725286
>another one of these threads
Just what we needed

There are a lot of normies on /r9k/ but I think most of the real robots aren't leftist. They're not right wing either, since right wing is about hard work and personal responsibility, but being a leftist nowadays is a sign of being a conformist and unintelligent.

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>>34730375
>It is essencially exactly the same.
No, it's not. You are essentially the same thing as a turd. Me stating this does not make it true.
>Nowhere in any of your post do you mention being strawmanned.
True, I only called her out on it later, in this part of the discussion. Her strawmanning me was what led me to continue the posting though.
>You do however insist on the poster not making a valid argument.
Which she did not do.
>It is this insistence that made me reply to you in the first place, to let you know how foolish it is to rebuke someone for not making a rational argument, when the making of such an argument requires you to agree on the premises on which the argument is to be made.
And I want you to understand that this is the core of this discussion. I was making fun of her for not realising this, yet continuing on with her feeble attempts at forming an argument against something she cannot form a solid argument against.
>And here you asking the poster to provide a rational argument to back up his opinion, another impossibility, which convinces me that you did infact not understand what I pointed out to you.
Did you not read my post? Where I specifically stated that this was my intention?
>Yet she kept posting fallacies and making piss-poor attempts at arguments, making me reply and rile her up further. She could easily have referred to my obvious denial of morality and spooks, etc. and realised our views differ on an intrinsic level, but she didn't, because she is stupid and that is what half my posts and the core of this discussion have been about. Calling her dumb for my own amusement.
To bait for replies and in a very twisted, pseudo-socratic manner attempt to lead her into a good discussion, or at least to the realisation of logical argumentation. I enjoy this.
>Good, because you couldn't possible.
No, but you could have a good discussion about this subject, to activate the almonds. Something along the lines of what we are having right now.

>>34726539
They deny it whenever it's rhetorically convenient to, man.

Just look at Richard "I don't think they should die, I just think we should remove them from their livelyhoods" "I'm not a nazi, actually nazis hate me" Spencer

l
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l

>>34730555
>No, it's not.

Not okay = disapproval of
I disapprove of genocide = I do not think genocide should happen

The government should = I think we should organize to

The only difference is that one refers to a collective organization.

>True, I only called her out on it later, in this part of the discussion.

Which makes it completely irrelevant.

>And I want you to understand that this is the core of this discussion.

You trolling someone is not a discussion.

>Did you not read my post? Where I specifically stated that this was my intention?

Why = what causes

In the context of your post:
>For what reason should I care about racism?

'Why' is a call for an argument to convince you. A different context could be

>For what reason do you care about racism

Where it is simply a request for this person to expand on the reasons that have made him care about racism.

>I enjoy this.

You enjoy animal abuse.

>No, but you could have a good discussion about this subject, to activate the almonds. Something along the lines of what we are having right now.

I imagine that your approach of baiting has created exactly 0 good discussions.

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>>34730917
>The only difference is that one refers to a collective organization.
And thus if you wanted to talk about collective organization, you say so. Simple as that.
>You trolling someone is not a discussion.
>The action or process of talking about something in order to reach a decision or to exchange ideas
I was exchanging my ideas of her stupidity, she was doing something something.
>'Why' is a call for an argument to convince you. A different context could be
>Where it is simply a request for this person to expand on the reasons that have made him care about racism.
Yes, this is known as the Socratic method. I've been fond of it before I found out its name.
>You enjoy animal abuse.
Yes, actually. I am an empathetic sadist, but my empathy is too low to care about anonymous individuals online, so here I am.
>I imagine that your approach of baiting has created exactly 0 good discussions.
It has actually lead to the very best discussions I've had on 4chan. The Socratic method simply does not work well on stupid people when effort is not made into coaxing the fool into a conclusion.

>>34731025
>And thus if you wanted to talk about collective organization, you say so.

Except that there is no difference with regards to the necessity of agreeing on the subjective premise.

>Yes, this is known as the Socratic method.

Not when you ask why you should care. With the inclusion of should, 'why' becomes a call for the poster to convince you, ie. make an argument.

>Yes, actually

I know, that is why I said it.

>The Socratic method simply does not work well on stupid people

I do not think Socrates kept baiting people untill he could smugly write off that person as a fool and add a notch to his staff indicating another 'won' debate. I seem to remember him being presented as extremely sincere in his inquiries.

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>>34731258
>Except that there is no difference with regards to the necessity of agreeing on the subjective premise.
Yet to achieve anything in the discussion except my own amusemet we would have had to move onto the subject of the underlying values, beliefs and subjective views, which I brought up multiple times, to no avail.
>Not when you ask why you should care. With the inclusion of should, 'why' becomes a call for the poster to convince you, ie. make an argument.
Which is still the Socratic method. By asking her the question of why I should care, I coax her into thinking deeper into the subject of WHY a person should care for others, why a white man should care for a black guy, or if they even should in the first place. A more intelligent, but juvenile person may offer a simple explanation, upon which I would ask more questions to further unravel the subject. She did no such thing, but instead answered with a blatantly incorrect statement of
>By that logic, you shouldn't complain when about "muh ((((("reverse"racism)))) "
then dodged the question with
>White people don't belong here either
Then it continued on with more baiting and post-ironic posting, but as I've said, I do this for entertainment, so I don't mind.

>I do not think Socrates kept baiting people untill he could smugly write off that person as a fool and add a notch to his staff indicating another 'won' debate. I seem to remember him being presented as extremely sincere in his inquiries.
I do actually have a certain amount of sincerity in my inqueries, nor do I find it an achievement to shitpost and call a dumb woman a fool until she gives up. It's purely for entertainment and I am not here to uphold any form of intellectual standards, but to embrace post-irony and have a good time.

>>34725286
I'm poor, working class. I vote left becuase the right doesn't do shit to help me. I don't care about a one world government as long as I can take care of my needs and my family. Give me a reason to vote right OP, and I will. I hold some right-wing views on immigration and national secruity, but I'll give those up for personal freedoms and survival.

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>>34731489
>I coax her into thinking deeper into the subject of WHY a person should care for others

Do you expect me to believe that you were asking

>what causes a person to care about racism?

>then don't complain

is a recognition of the inability of providing you with a 'why', though it is true that the poster does try to paint a picture of you as a hypocrite, which I do not get the impression of you being.

>White people don't belong here either

Is clearly bait.

>I do this for entertainment, so I don't mind.

A person can always fall back on this, no matter what their motivation was.

Even people who go out of their to deprive themselves of any entertainment can claim to do so seeking a new form of entertainment.

>embrace post-irony

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>>34731742
>I'm poor, working class.
are you actually working tho? do you have a job?

>>34731779
Yes. I currently have a job in retail, and my girlfriend who I live with is looking for one. I have graduated college with a major in general history.

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>>34731751
>Do you expect me to believe that you were asking
Yes. I post stuff like this quite often, just in the hopes of someone clever enough and willing to discuss it would reply. Stirnerposting is always a low-effort favourite.
>Is clearly bait.
Yes. I'm quite certain all of the poster's posts were bait, but I prefer post-irony and the sweet freedom it gives. Bait or no, if it entertains me it is fine.
>A person can always fall back on this, no matter what their motivation was.
>Even people who go out of their to deprive themselves of any entertainment can claim to do so seeking a new form of entertainment.
Yes and? This is the part where we must come to a common conclusion on values. Why did mention this with such a negative implication? Like there is something wrong about falling back on entertainment?
>pic related
I do not see what you are implying. By embracing post-irony I simply mean that as I am unable to distinguish bait from serious replies as per Poe's law, I may as well reply to posts that I think are bait seriously. Though naturally it depends on the type and quality of bait, how interesting it is and so forth.

>>34731927
>Like there is something wrong about falling back on entertainment?

Well what are you really saying? If something was not entertaining a person, then this person would not seek to do it. Even when people go to work 9-5 they are enduring the boredom in order to entertain themselves with a sense of responsibility.

>I do not see what you are implying

I am implying that you are infact shadow the hedgehog.

>I simply mean that as I am unable to distinguish bait from serious replies as per Poe's law, I may as well reply to posts that I think are bait seriously.

It is an odd connendrum where both parties think they are trolling the other. If they were more earnest they would embrace each other as brothers.

>it's a "cock/pol/isher thinks leftists like Hillary, hate whites, want to force you to be cucked by Jamal, etc" episode
Fuck off back to your containment board faggot

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>>34732103
>Well what are you really saying? If something was not entertaining a person, then this person would not seek to do it. Even when people go to work 9-5 they are enduring the boredom in order to entertain themselves with a sense of responsibility.
I suppose I really should've worded it better. I mean that I am doing it for low-effort entertainment with no real focus on intellectual or logical rigour like I would have in a serious debate.
>I am implying that you are infact shadow the hedgehog.
Yes, I am edgy but I just don't see why you would consider post-irony edgy.
>It is an odd connendrum where both parties think they are trolling the other. If they were more earnest they would embrace each other as brothers.
Yeah, but this way both sides got the enjoyment of succesful baiting.

>>34732273
>Yes, I am edgy but I just don't see why you would consider post-irony edgy.

Well it is ironic edginess. Which is what shadow the hedgehog embodies.

>Yeah, but this way both sides got the enjoyment of succesful baiting.

It doesn't seem particularly enjoyable to me, but maybe you have different natures.

Globalization for better or worse can't be stopped. It gives those who take a leading/proactive role in it an advantage over others. Because it gives an advantage people are going to use it. The people using it though don't belong to any one group. Some are American, Chinese, German, etc and they all have they're own motivations and ultimately act independently of one another which makes stopping it difficult. If there was cohesion to globalization it would be easier to stop, but stopping globalization is like stopping people from using drugs.

>>34725286
R9k has always been conservative. Virgin naturally flock to right wing views because they can't understand emotions

>>34725631
ITT: we wuz kangz and dindus taking over /r9k/
good job you garbage good for nuffins roboniggers

>>34725286
Stockholm Syndrome, they've been held captive so long in this system that they like being cucked.

>>34725798
hehe XD
rage harder bro! xd

>>34725286
Fun fact: Trump just announced he's selling weapons to Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia literally did 9/11 and Trump wants to sell weapons to them. Fuck off /pol/

>>34733535
Trump will end up being another Bush. He already approved selling weapons to a Muslim majority country. Get tucked

>>34725303
this and the "it's not rigged you're just losing" pictures are my all time favorite for 2016

>>34725770
aesthetic flag

>>34733830
it is a joke. the true insignia of mongolia is the double-headed eagle.

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>>34725286
>The left is literally being used by the shadow society elites in order to control the world

The evidence for the idea of a shadow elite who want to run the world and instate a world government is pretty scanty, mostly relegated to conspiracy theory sites.

The evidence for the idea that the right (and a lot of "left" politicians to be fair) are used by big businesses to maximize their profits by reducing government influence, regulation and taxation on themselves, against the interests of the 99%ers of the right, is fairly abundant. Lobbying groups do their business out in the open, after all. The only thing that's hidden is the true intent of something like, say, repealing Obamacare. Repealing the ACA will be a total shitshow for a lot of Americans, including ones who live in red states and tick red boxes on their ballots. While the electorate seemed to believe that the repeal was so it could be replaced with some better alternative, it was very clear from the rhetoric of business first, from the refusal on the part of right-wing politicians to specifically name alternatives, and from their very obvious disagreement with universal government healthcare that no alternative was intended, and that the true goal of repealing the ACA is purely to improve the profit margins of private healthcare entities by allowing them to go back to screwing over certain segments of the population. The repeal has been sold by very different rhetoric from what the intent clearly is; to simply return to when private insurance was shittier for consumers and better for the insurances.

Ironically, the people who like to talk most about being "red pilled" are themselves the most deluded. Big corporations are the great evil of our time, gathering massive wealth and power behind closed doors where there is little public accountability, and the rhetoric of business first that the right wallows in is the rhetoric of enabling these entities to have fewer checks against their power.