Finally got a girlfriend and fixed my life more or less. I'm

Take the opportunity to give me (You)s

Nothings has worked out in the way the memes portray for me.

I'm not even fit or chad, and she isnt a roastie either. Im as disgusting as I was before and she doesnt seem to care.

>>34653725
Do you actually trust her? I'm worried that I won't be able to go past a platonic relationship with anyone because of how I view people.
Trying again to get my life in order but I feel terrible whenever I start to get hopeful because I expect that hope to inevitably get betrayed.

How would I initiate the sex with a woman?

Also, what's your opinion on this age gap. I'm 21 and she's 17. is that too much?

>>34654033
Sex starts with cuddling, making out, then feeling up the girl, and then either she tells you what to do or you get on top of her and put it in

>>34654019

Yes I do.

And so does she.

Anyways, regardless of everything, the last frontier is faith. I have faith and that's where my trust ultimately resides.

Platonic relationship is a very smart remark. This is what I do.

I believe in God and I love this girl not as an end in itself, but as a partner with which to go to somewhere else. This is very important because many go to shit when they focus all their might and effort and hopes on another human, which is a terrible mistake.

I dont fear betrayal but I'm open to everything. Normally when you dont expect too much from anyone things go smoother.

>>34654033

It's a very natural thing, at least for her.

I was in shock the first time because I was a literal wizard-level robot with years of debauchery on my back.

Sex to me didnt seem very romantic. You wont love a girl more for having sex, say for example more than you could love a girl you barely talk to. To me sex was like frotting lumps of meat. I like to please her and we did it for hours, It's just not the extatic heaven of all heavens I thought it would be as a virgin.

Age gap is no problem, its all in how your mind and hers is.

I'm in my early 20s and she's in her 30s

I have a friend who's going through hell for dating a 17 year old though, because they're basically children and will want to "experiment" ie cuck you with time.

>>34653725
What's the difference between lewd bsing at work and flirtation? The only thing that gives me pause is that she doesn't really touch me all that often, but I think that may be because she is used to guys being very aggressive with her

>>34654068
If you're talking about faith in a God, I couldn't go there even if I wanted to. Could you expand on this for me?
This isn't the first time someone has told me to have faith, and I really do believe that it's a key component in living a happy life.

Faith is something I've always wanted to attain, but I either have trouble fully grasping the concept, or am unable to see past my negative expectations for a person.

>>34654190

I wouldnt know how to efficiently answer that, I'm not a chad with women and This girl has been my first in every way.

The way I see it both of those are inclinations to have sex or be together, in which case if you want anything you should probably make a move.

According to the experiences I had, 80% of hardship is in overthinking and making up stories and scenarios in your mind.

Acts on themselves are much much milder and much less threatening.

>>34654216

It's not God or Christ or Krishna or Allah or the Kike god or anything in particular.

You just have to believe and TRUST something bigger and better than yourself.

It's a deposit for your hopes and well being in something better.

You can't look for faith because faith is an act that happens or not, not something you can look for anywhere.

Faith is also not related to people. To me it's a direct connection between me and Crhist, and Crhist because I like the things he says, not because I worship a totem of a terrible lovecraftian creature.

Faith is like a reference or lighthouse. It doesnt mean you'll be better or worse, it means whatever you do you accept judgement only from that reference in which you believe.

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>>34653725
>implying robots can improve their lives

You were never a robot.

Legitimately and seriously fuck off!!

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>>34654316
>Implying robots want to be robots.

If you're not at least hoping to improve your life you were never a robot.

Legitimately and seriously fuck off!!

>>34654316

I dont think there is a single kind of robot according to my many years of residence here.

There is one particular kind that is the outcast that isnt particularly good or nice or intelligent either, that is just a rage machine of frustration that will never get anywhere.

I agree I wasnt that kind, but everything I've managed to get that is good like this girlfriend I've done through reaching breaking point.

I'm not sucididal, ie not naturally inclined to kill myself. But if I had been, I would have killed myself a long time ago.

I'm also a wizard of internet culture and naturally awkward in social environments, and a hugless kissless virgin until my twenties now. Very low self esteem and not particularly good looking I think.

Regarles of what I am I still think I must repay this board somehow, maybe help someone.

>>34654345
well fuck, i'm content with where im at. i love my comfy bubble. If im not a robot, then what the fuck am i?

By the way as a side note I'd like to warn you about porn.

I've seen every single thing and tried every single thing. Been througjh all cycles. My record is 18 faps in a day to orgasm and my collection was tens of thousands of (hand picked) nasty pics.

Be VERY careful with porn and sexuality. It will fuck your brain in ways you cannot imagine if you're inside of the cycle. The worst part is that it is not up to you, its a chemical thing in your brain.

I left porn two weeks before being with this girl and I have strong withdrawal sympthoms now.

I've never fucked before or been with anyone, and when I did I couldnt get fully hard no matter what I did. I got blue balls and leaked like a motherfucker but no erection and almost no libido. And this is coming from someone that has been able to jerk off 18 times in a row watching debauchery.

Now I'm reading it takes one or more months to get back to "normal", so I might have trouble with this girl I love.

Sex is not a "performance" like in porn, and you can have good loving sex with someone you love.

I just warn you, you wont get hard, and its not nice when you're in bed naked with a girl.

>>34653725
These kinds of threads make want to kill myself, because I will forever be a jawlet with a asymmetrical face.

>>34654419

Im a jawlet with jew nose, deformed chest and bad breath that I've managed to tame but not fix clinically. Im also very skinny and hate physical exercise.

Im not particularly good looking, but what Im seeing is that this girl loves me and apparently finds me attractive. I must confess I think she's way hotter. I'm a 4/10 in my eyes, she's a solid 8/10.

I got her because I reached an all time low, as I said. Ive known her for years but we were always friends. I kind of orbited her but never really tried anything or wanted to, because I was very, very depressed, and only when I hit an all time low did I decide to move forwards.

As I say I'm not chad either. Maybe you have to reach a kill yourself moment to transcend and act.

>>34654414
You have to get some sexual contact from somewhere, even if you don't have access to women. Do you think masturbating to imagination is any better?

> Asking for a friend...

>>34654472
Even if this was true, and not fabricated and homosexual, just because you got lucky doesnt mean everyone will.

>>34654484

Absolutely yes. Always try to jerk off to people you know in your mind.

I get what you mean. I'm not saying "just quit porn" because I know you need your dopamine dose when you're in deep shit and your life is gloomy.

I'm just saying if you're after a girl or have chances or want to, try to leave porn progressively. That or to get used to the fact that the first times you are with that girl you wont be able to function properly.

Sexual contact is not what I imagined when I watched porn at all, by the way. It's like a parallel world.

Again the best way I can describe it is to frot and hug a lump of meat, you being another lump of meat.

If you want to know what touching a pussy or kissing in the mouth feels like, grab a steak, cut a gash and put your tongue / dick / mouth in it. It's just meat, not heavenly bliss.

By the way try to cut your masturbation if you can to a minimum. I know it's hard, for me jerking off to degeneracy and coffee have been the only two good things in my life.

What happens is you'll be desensitized and your dick wont feel anything. I have the dick of a pornstar without having ever fucked, all roughed up and desensitized. She blew me for the first time and I couldnt feel a fucking thing. I've jerked off and felt way better.

>>34654526

My story with her goes deep, we were good friends before me taking the extra step.

I'm not preaching happy times and selling salvation, I'm just saying it can happen and regardless if it will happen to you, I can answer some questions I know I would have liked to know when I was on the other side.

>>34654539
At least you aren't a dick about it like the other norimes. But let me tell you, I would rather just off myself then live hoping for some miracle to happen. And I know it will never happen. Because good things never happen and will never happen to people like me. We were born just to suffer and be unhappy.

>>34654570

I also hate the normalfaggots and when they sell you their normalfaggot stories and their shit mainstream ideology and memes.

You may not believe me, but you actually do NOT know if it will ever happen.

I'm not preaching hope or anything, but I'm telling you from a neutral, true and tested and objective standpoint that you actually do not know what will happen to you.

Many of the things that happen to you are a product of how you behave and what you make out (what you interpret) of the neutral acts that happen to you, and the tint of your life is there because of you and the way you think.

The best I can offer to you and others are merely practical things that work and observations of things that dont work as well.

I've been through literal hell myself. In fact I've grown on it and based my personality and character around it.

If you have faith in something better than yourself you dont need to worry about yourself. Dont feel pity for yourself either, and never deposit your highest and most pure hopes on anyone ever.

Just observe and see, not everything is bad. We're not that important anyways, and that's a good thing.

>>34654662
I appreciate the advice, It's obvious you really care and arent just being condescending like most people here do, you're a good guy, you really are, but I'm too far gone. The only reason I haven't killed myself is I dont want my grandma to hear her favourite grandchild commited suicide. As soon as she goes, I'm going too. Bought the gun months ago, already have it all planned out.

24 here. In a 7 months relationship.virgin before. Not the incredible moment I was dreaming abou but hey, it's not bad. I did't tried to get her, she came at me. Clearly it's not paradise but it's somewhat different to be alone

>>34653725
I was excited. and then realized you wanted to give advice on girls..

how to fix life? not be at my wits end with depression? how to start trying to date?
I'm a girl btw.

>>34654762

I honestly care for you, I try to be careful with what I say ITT because I want to be concise and not misguiding.

I'm personally not suicidal, like it just doesnt "come to me" but I also can't tell you to not do it like the normalfaggots.

I'm just telling you that we're less than we think we are, life is a big question mark always.

In my all time low my depression was lifted, maybe in your all time low you'll find relief. Even if you dont, I recommend not thinking too much about it wether you do it or not.

>>34654797
>I'm a girl btw
How can you fail while living life on easy mode? I simply cannot understand. All you have to do is not be a landwhale. Is that so fucking hard?

>>34654781

I feel the same way, I just hope I can deliver and make her feel good.

>>34654797

I liked this girl but had this massive depression since I was 3 years old.

I exploded of sadness when I missed too many moments and wasted too many chances. The weight was lifted from me and I decided to have a go at everything. I guess my faith kept me going, and I've managed to achieve many things.

Not that my life is fixed in any literal way but at least it's better now. Its a smooth ride instead of a grueling hell.

>>34654810
>I'm just telling you that we're less than we think we are, life is a big question mark always.
Yeah, I get this, but if life has been shit for you pretty much the whole time, its hard to have hope.

>>34653725
How did you come to the realisation that she liked you the whole time?

>>34654836

It has been shit for me as well. Dont even have hope for something better, but instead try to dismiss the idea that everything will be bad, which is as assuming and wrong as the first one.

>>34654872
Yeah, I get I'm not being objective here, but when life has been a downwardspiral for god knows how long, I just cant think anything will change.

>>34654851

I'm pretty autistic in some matters, so I cant point exactly anywhere.

I guess if she liked to hang out with me she didnt hate me.

Also I opened up to her bigly, and went out of my way so she opened up as well.

Also, she approached me when we met, not the other way around.

In retrospective I have to say i'ts not that important. When I opened up to her I wasnt expecting accepance, I just set my mind to letting her know I loved her without taking anything for granted.

In fact her acceptance was such a shock for me that the first day we spend together I seemed distant and cold because I just couldnt believe what was happening.

>>34654816
your observation is very relevant. I get a lot of guys who want me.. for sex. Finding someone who wants to hang around while I get back on my feet.. impossible.

>>34654810
I second the other reply. I hope it gets better but.. what is hope?
A lot of what has kept me so low was totally out of my control. Keep hoping that life won't randomly shit on my face again? It's hard.

>>34654929
wow i derp reply to a reply that wasn't even mine. sounds about right.

>>34654929
>sex
Most of us can't even get that.
>Finding someone who wants to hang around while I get back on my feet.. impossible.
Could easily get a genuine bf if you would accept anyone but chad.

>>34654835
I feel like your story is awesome but you may be.. I don;t want to say younger.. but yes probably younger. A place where you still have the opportunity to make those jumps

>>34653725
OP, I'm too boring to be a bf. Every once in a while, a girl will show interest, but I avoid her because I know if she spends any amount of time with me, she'll realize what a loser I am. I can't hold a conversation. I can't be funny. I'm not smart. I can't connect on an emotional level.

I have no idea what's wrong. I don't know what to do. I'm just complete useless in a girl's presence. Hell, I can barely manage having guy aquaintances. It's not anxiety, I don't think. I just don't know what to say and do to make an interaction become a relationship.

>>34654962
yea but... I dont have a dick and a sex drive that runs my life. I don't want sex. You may want sex but I dont...

and ya I can always accept.. the guys who stick around for a few weeks and then bail when they realize I want more than just some casual shit, or sex. People are selfish, they don't want to stick around to hold my hand through the hard shit.

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>>34653725
>it turns out she loves me as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYsXc3hqgEE


no they only like you for your utility and resources.Women will leave you if you stop providing that. This is a survival strategy for women so they don't have to die with you after you run out of resources or have the need to die with you in war.

>>34654316
Robot can update software you know

>>34653725
I might be going on my first date soon. How do you make the first move and kiss her? Also how do you actually kiss a woman?

>>34655069
Then there is something wrong with you if evey guy dumps you after a few weeks.

>>34653725
She'll leave you at one point, trust me, I can see it in you. Enjoy.

>>34654762
Anon , i don't even know whose the fuck you are and I'm here try to post this reply to you with my broken English ... Before you want to die be sure to say "fuck it" and try to be a normie atleast one , what you gonna lose ? More shame , fuck it you gonna die anyway...

>>34655164
You don't say.. thats why Im here.. wondering how people overcome depression and figure out how to be with others...

Also know all the guys who dumped me.. are the two I tried to date about a year ago..

>>34654472
>I got her because I reached an all time low, as I said. Ive known her for years but we were always friends. I kind of orbited her but never really tried anything or wanted to, because I was very, very depressed, and only when I hit an all time low did I decide to move forwards.
I'm in a very similar situation right now.
The girl's not exactly a friend, but part of a small group that we've been in for a few years. She showed a bit of interest a few months ago, but I didn't do anything. It was a build up of momentum of a few moments where I actually managed to seem normal, or even fun. But I really don't think I could keep it up.

I don't think I'm ready to open up yet. My life is pathetic, I spend 10 hours a day on 4chan and have a shitty parttime job, and she would find that out straight away.
It feels like there is more risk because if I fuck things up, things will get real awkward in the group.

Should I just do it anyway? Are you a better person now because of her, despite all your previous shit?

>>34655202
I do not have any way to try to be a normie, I have no firends, no prospects in life, I cant remember the last time

>>34655232
>>34655202
Whoops, phone bugged out.
Meant to say dont remember the last time I left the house.

>>34654929
>I need a man to help me get back on my feet

You're a disgusting whore, girl. Sex is all you have to give, don't be upset about it.

>>34655211
Maybe try working on your lack of empathy.

>>34655232
Anon, be simple and choose action , don't think too much > boring< is the thing that make you thinking too much about all this shit - find thing you want to do and lose your time > don't have it, then fuck it and ask your relative to give you some works > don't have it then try to any kind of shit that consume alot of time ... Sincere hope you get better Anon > don't think too much , take it simple and be strong

>>34655257
I dont need a man =/ and thanks for proving my point.

I've been on my own for about 10 years now. I hate and actually never.. ask for help. I'm not expecting some guy to fix my life. I'm hoping I can find someone who tells me I can do it after I fail and fall flat on my face.

>>34655337
I appreciate your concern, but there is simply nothing I want to do, I'm simply a husk of a human being. I have no hope, no ambiton, no desire. The only thing I want to do is die.

>>34655358
>muh trials and tribulations

save it for the blog.

>>34653725
How do I get my friend a gf?
He looks quite good, like a 6-7/10, but his personality, low self esteem and passionless nature fucks him over.
He dances aroung literally every topic that could be interesting because he doesn't want to look like he's taking a side, takes eveything dead serious and when he DOES try to joke it comes off as extremely awkward that kills the conversation. Pretty sure he's lowkey autistic.

The potential relationship he has painted in his head is unrealistic. I think he's under the impression that his relationship will be him bringing her flowers and chocolate and calling her sweetheart every day, and generally him being the most romantic person ever will guarantee a happy relationship.

I don'tmean that him being a dick will get him girls, his autistic nature will make sure that any aggression isn't seen as playful. But he thinks being this milquetoast wishy washy pussy will get him ANYWHERE and I'm just abotu a normie with no emotional intelligence so I can't put my finger on what he SHOULD do, only on what he shouldn't.

So If you could help with that.

>>34655093

She has money , a house, a respectable job and a life, I'm a neet.

You bring up a good point though, which is that internet and social memes run parallel to life, but are not part of the same stream. Memes are not true, but mostly exaggerated satire, in my experience.

>>34654929

If you're looking for someone you can step on to to grasp for air you're better off isolated. That's why the roastie meme exists.

>>34654971

I'm definately young in the sense that I've been tied up for most of my life and now I decided to act and do things. I dont think it has to do with age, but maybe with your spirits wearing down.

>>34655377
yea I know right? Whiney bitches.

At least I dont whine about not getting laid. God that must be so fucking horrible.

>>34655056

You might be depressed, as I was. I'm not here to solve everyone's problems as a guru, just to give testimony that it is possible to change for the better.

>>34655126

She made the first move and kissed me. I awkardly kissed back and I didnt know how to.

>>34655198

I'm well aware. Not necessarily a bad thing either. I'm treading very carefully.

>>34653725
Do you ever talk to her? Is there a way to find a gf/friends without actually having to talk to any humans? How scary a women irl?

>>34655222

I spent the same amount of time here. I just stopped organically. I didnt feel the need to come back here anymore, and wasnt tied up by the cycle of browsing the chans anymore.

I dont think I'm better or worse, I'm just better in life if that makes sense. I wouldnt get attached to anyone just so I could be a certain way, seems like a terrible thing to do.

>>34655232

I am not a normie. That is not something you can become. Dont be afraid of change because everything you are you wil carry with you one way or the other. I'm happier now but I still carry all my wizard heritage, I just dont tap into it so often now.

>>34655559

Women scared me shitless, but this girl is not a regular stacy.

How easy it is to talk to a girl correlates with how easy it is to talk to a friend. This girl was my friend for a long time, the only things I didnt talk about with her were how miserable I usually felt with my depression, until one day I did, I broke out and came back to try to get her.

Use whatsapp etc.., nowadays its very easy to communicate without talking much.

>>34655617
Whats a friend? Why is talking to them easy?

>>34655617
For some reason non-anonymous written communication is even harder than talking. I cant even text with my parents. Dont even get me started on phonecalls.

>>34655402

I think women value self-confidence, I'm afraid that meme is true.

I'm a socially awkward retard toughened up by trying to shield a great sensitivity as a child, so I must say even though I hate social interaction most of the time, I'm not a faggot at heart. I've done many ballsy extreme things in my life, just not related to social interaction, and this girl saw that.

I think if he doesnt love her there is no point in seeking a gf. My life for example was miserable enough as it was for me to not want a girlfriend just because, which would have been torture for both of us.

>>34655631

Someone you trust, and trust is faith you deposit in someone.

Faith is half intuition half gamble.

>>34655646

I personally cant stand phonecalls either. I can hardly offer any solutions, merely give testimony.

>>34655706
But you cant trust humans you arent related to . They only care about their own survival.

>>34655719

You choose your own family. Friends are humans that are in fact related to you.

My mom and dad are very nice, but I know cases that would make anyone question if you can and should actually trust people that are related to you.

It's very hard for me to rationalize and explain why anyone would go out of their way to favor someone else without retorting to faith and trust, but it's how I feel it is.

And you actually can trust absolutely anyone you want to trust, regardless of wether or not that's a good idea. It's how people in society work more or less

>>34655211

You have to transcend your problems if you want to get out of them. It's how I got out. The weight of my cross was lifted from me after hours of torture and struggle.

I dont know how this works for everyone but even if there's risk of death I think it's a worthy gamble to take.

I'd personally never "date" a girl just because. This girlfriend of mine has been a friend for a long time, and I loved her regardless as that. Relationships dont have to be superficial if you dont want them to be, and having a boyfriend "just because" or just because you want certain things for yourself is plain wrong.

Dont expect anything from anyone or expect your loved one to fulfill a certain role or do a certain thing.

Plato was right and it is an absolute mistake to deposit all your will and hope on the other person instead of both walking together as in a journey.

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I have to go.

I'll be back if this thread survives

Some basic points that I think are important

>Porn runs parallel to romance. Not the same thing

>Memes run parallel to real life relations. Not representative. More like satirical exaggerations.

>If you want to know what sex feels like, put your dick or tongue on a raw steak that isnt cold.

>You can gather the will to kill your demons if you hit an all time low and transcend.

>Faith is the most important thing. Commend your soul to something bigger than yourself.

>>34655666
>I've done many ballsy extreme things in my life
Like such as?

>>34656170

Living through harsh conditions.

Making extreme physical feats in nature.

Saving my life doing risky things but keeping a cold mind.

Making life threatening sacrifices to help others

Doing things I dont want to do without question to help others.

Fighting people bigger and stronger than me without question ( in the gym though, I'm very calm)

Not being afraid of great physical strain or pain.

Just giving the extra 10%, walking the extra mile.

>>34653725
I can't even find work let alone a reliable income or friends.

Shit sucks desu