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It seems like women are aging faster than ever. They're

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It seems like women are aging faster than ever. They're bangable by the time they're 15 or 16, but a startling number of them look worn out and busted by 25.

What is to blame for this? A steady diet of booze, cigarettes, and cock?
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>>34647244
These results were obtained by hooking up men to sensors to measure their arousal.
It almost exactly matches up with fertility rates.
Women always peaked very early.
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>>34647244
>it seems

yea, it SEEMS bur the truth is this is how it has always been because that's how nature works in regards to human biology. the only thing that has changed MAYBE is the synthetic drugs like heroin and crack that age you very rapidly
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>>34647432
>men find 11 year olds more attractive than 23 year olds

Really gets the cerebrospinal fluid pumping.
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>>34647244
It's a property inherent to the female itself.
I'm 26 M and I look a youngish. Haven't changed much in three years.

Had the distinct misfortune of making eye contact with a girl I knew from school a few weeks ago. Same age.

She was quiet and weird, so probably not a carousel goer in her 20s, but even so, she looked
fucking
haggard.

I think the old women age like milk thing may have some weight to it.
If you're a young lady on this websihaha who am I kidding.
Nice dubs.
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>>34647467
you mean 12

in either case the hemoglobin is gliding
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>>34647529
Female attractiveness makes a very, very sudden jump by the onset of puberty. Then it drops precipitously after a decade or so.

That's why women are often so vicious: they get a lot of attention and social power at a very early age and in a very sudden way. And then it drops off sharply just when they get used to it.

I remember the girls in my class turning from buddies into petty narcissist pretty much the moment they got boobs.
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>>34647244
by the time they're 15 16? u dumb? they are bangable by the time they are 9
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>>34647244
>>34647432
this only applies to white girls desu
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>>34647717
inshallah

okidoki
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>>34647467

Are you blind?

The 11 year old is about on par with the 30 year old.

The 23 year old is significantly higher.
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>>34647662

Women themselves talk about this.

>One minute I was playing with dolls and the next minute adult men were leering at me
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>>34647840
also remember that moment of clarity on that one youtube comment:

"how can we compete? shes 11"
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Cigarettes are less popular than ever, though..
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>>34647840
>adult men were leering at me
Yeah, and they totally hate all that attention.

Pretty much the first thing girls do when they get their boobs is either cajole peers into doing homework and errands for them or try to make boys fight over them so they can feel a narcissistic rush.
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>>34647432
>roasties are over the hill by the time they start high-school.
>it takes intense shaming to extend that cliff to a socially acceptable 23 years.
>then they come up with factors like "maturity" and "experience" and shit to further extend it to 30.
>but even they can't brainwash anyone into accepting any number older than that.
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>>34647244

So, I actually just googled the Age of Consent laws in my state. 15 is legal for me.

How exactly do I go about meeting 15-16 year olds?
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>>34647432
I usually find 18 year olds hotter than 12 year olds

Is this weird? I didn't think it was weird.
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>>34647244
Guess they should lower the minimum age for porn then.
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>>34647526
I've seen 30 year old women who still look like teenagers though. It's a mix of bad genetics and taking care of themselves like shit.
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>>34647244
>women are aging faster than ever

What if we just didn't appreciate prime teenage pussy as much as we should've when we were teens?
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>>34647432
>a graph some random pedo made in Excel

Great "evidence"
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>>34647934
>stacey took advantage of me once so all women are EVIL

lmao maybe grow a spine? betaboi
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>>34647432
I don't believe this graph. Men can get hard to almost anything, even dried up old hags.
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>>34647432
source?
og comment
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>>34648090
You misinterpreted the graph (which is understandable considering the lack of a caption:)
>about 65% of 12 year old girls are sexually arousing to most men.
>about 85% of 18 year olds are sexually arousing to most men.
Which pretty closely tracks the percentage of females that are fertile at those ages. The point is that the male mind (barring degenerates like pedos and milf hunters) is amazing at sniffing out fertility.
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>>34648170
The 12 bar is higher than the 18 bar on that graph though, how do you figure that?
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>>34648077
sell them oregano

>>34647432
this graph is a meme but i honestly think if it was done scientifically (eg show men pictures, measure brain activity) it wouldn't be all that far off. 12 year olds aside.
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>>34647662
>they get a lot of attention and social power at a very early age and in a very sudden way. And then it drops off sharply just when they get used to it.

Pretty much sums up the female condition and why they are so entitled. They actually believe it is their great personality that is attracting people and getting them to do their bidding. The smart ones trap a man with pregnancy before their looks go to complete shit.

Half of them end up becoming sweaty pigs or look like skeletal trannies. I used to work with a guy in his 50s who was just flying in several young asian girls a year effectively as prostitutes until he got bored of them.

women are only worth pursuing from ages 14 - 21. All they have going for them is looks. They're completely boring and don't take much of an interest in anything beyond themselves.
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>>34648189
12 is lower, its the 13 which is higher senpai
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>>34648231
Serious question how many women do you interact with?
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>>34648163
>>34648166
>>34648122
Source: Evolutionary Psychology, " Facial, olfactory, and vocal cues to female reproductive value."

>>34648136
Stop projecting so hard, I never said anything about feeling exploited or wronged or being angry. You're the one getting mad at a simple observation relevant to the topic.
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>>34648271
The 12 bar isn't the highest bar but its higher than the 18.
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>>34648295
u trolling me bruv?
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>>34648287
how many articles frantically trying to poke holes in that study's methodology are there? i don't care enough to look but the thought of it makes me feel warm and fuzzy
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>>34648230
>if it was done scientifically (eg show men pictures, measure brain activity) it wouldn't be all that far off.
First: that's exactly what they did.

The three factors that determine reproductive chances in terms of choosing a female partner:
Health - for most of human history the younger you were the healthier you were, once you were over the initial infant and child death bump.
Ability to bring pregnancy to term - girls under the age of 12-14 usually need to get cesareans because of narrow hips etc. Not to mention that that is the age when first ovulation usually occurs.
Time left in females fertile age - again the optimum is somewhere around 12-14.

I'm not saying that that is something that is applicable or moral in our current society, but it is the way our brains are wired.
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>>34648323
Oh nevermind I can't read. but replace 12 with 13 and my original point still stands.
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>>34647432
red pill accurate
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>>34648323
>10 year olds are more attractive than 40 year olds
must be a muslim country
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>>34648278
>Serious question how many women do you interact with?

Quite a lot all things considered. I've been working in customer service for eight years and at one point worked in an office as the only guy.
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>>34648447
The study was done in the Gottingen, Germany.
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>>34648416
could depend on the population of the girls (an american 13 year old would be more advanced than say a russian one) but desu a 13 year old is always better looking than an 18 year old. they each have a different kind of attraction though... 18 year olds are sexy because they have full bodies and are ready to go, 13 year olds are usually more cute or prettier facially and are attractive (i guess) because of their potential.

think of it like this: if i were to marry a girl, why would i marry a girl at 18 years old when i can marry the same girl 5 years earlier and get 5 extra years of use out of her body?

thats why they are more attractive. 100% raw biology.
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>>34648514
So you mean to say it was a muslim country.
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>>34648527
If this is true why did guys not want me because I "looked 14" when I was 18?
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>>34648562
pedo hysteria
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>>34648562
Because of the tremendous social stigma and potential for drama/jail/lynching.
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>>34648562
I want you anon, please marry me
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>>34648527
why would i marry a girl at 18 years old when i can marry the same girl 5 years earlier and get 5 extra years of use out of her body?

The problem with young girls is unpredictability. Ages 13 - 18 are easily damaged by sudden cystic acne or the slowing down of their metabolism. The former is much more true for age 18. For me the real test of a woman is how she looks at 24 as well as how her mother has aged.
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>>34648625
>the slowing down of their metabolism
A complete and utter momscience meme. What the fuck does that even mean?
>easily damaged by sudden cystic acne
Yeah, because that was extremely common in our ancestors and totally kills your fertility.
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>>34648670
>I don't care what she looks like as long as she's fertile
If that's what you're into.
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>>34648688
I'm not talking about myself you idiot. I'm talking about our ancestors mating strategies. Plus, as I said a 14 year old 50.000 years ago was much more likely to be healthy and good looking than an 18 year old.

No one in this thread is saying you should go out and bang a 14 year old. The point is simply that calling anyone who is attracted to a girl under 18yo a pedo is ridiculous.
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>>34648539
Underrated post.
Keks were had.
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>>34648670
>What the fuck does that even mean?
Means bitches burning calories at a consistently declining rate. The reason the "hot" ones are attractive is because they are working out full time in the gym - then when they trap a guy they let the pin out. More true for women 20+ but I can remember a lot of girls from HS who were hot AF at 13 but became acne blobs by 15.

>Yeah, because that was extremely common in our ancestors and totally kills your fertility.

Acne is a lot more common in the modern world. Our ancestors were mostly breeding for financial reasons not necessarily for pleasure or love.
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>>34648625
>slow metabolism meme
How? Does their bio-chemical makeup change? Does their body temperature drop? Do they start hibernating?
"Slow metabolism" is a meme unless you're talking about severe metabolic diseases that result in disability and affect a tiny portion of the populace. Even "starvation response" works very differently from how people imagine it. You can't simply start violating thermo-dynamics, and most of your calories are burnt to keep you in a very narrow range of parameters that enable you to live.

>>34648823
>Means bitches burning calories at a consistently declining rate.
That's not "slowing metabolism" (and I doubt that was his meaning) - that's simply getting lazy.
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Stacy has always been stacy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZLfasMPOU4
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>>34648625
you would have to look at the parents to see what her final form might take. yes some girls might get uglier or hotter ya never know but generally most girls look good younger than uglier older than uglier younger and hotter older.

feminism is actually really bad in this regard because a girl who may turn out to be uglier when older can use her younger looks to get a man better looking than her final look and he will be locked in for life in the marriage.
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>>34649177
Moral: get an ugly girl young and she will turn hot later
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>>34648970
Remember that song being constantly on MTV, despite having a masturbation scene that always made everyone uncomfortable.
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>>34649177
That's not how it works, you can look at most girls age 8-12 and know exactly whether they will one day be attractive or not. Plus aging has so much to do with lifestyle that the whole "look at her mother" bit is unreliable.
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>>34649196
thats the gamble son. most girls look about the same looks wise.

ugly to hot and hot to ugly is rare

maybe find a young fat girl (not fat because lazy but fat because baby fat) with good facial genetics

>>34649245
yes correct i forgot to add that it is rare see above
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>>34649266
I'm guessing English isn't your first language?
oribrigandino
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>>34648414
>I'm not saying that that is something that is applicable or moral in our current society, but it is the way our brains are wired

Human brain is hard wired to the cave man era, when it comes to reproduction. And always will be. Untill we turn into robots or mere programs flying in the virtual space. And then we won't need any sex. :)
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>graduated high school in 2012
>many of the girls I went with are already noticeably declining.

I was pretty stunned when I flipped through facebook a few months back. Lots of them got fat and frumpy.

I figured it was late 20's when the decline really kicked in, but these girls are all 22/23 and like half of them aren't fuckable anymore
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>>34649330
Bad lifestyle and/or bad genetics.
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>>34649330
this lol.

some of these girls were bangin' during HS but you look them up now and wonder wtf u found attractive about them...

this is why "marrying highschool sweetheart" is insane. either she leaves you because your highschool football career vanishes in the real world and you become a loser or you hit 30 together and shes turning ugly right when you are peaking.
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>>34647432
What's the source on this
Should a man feel guilty for fapping to a 14 year old?
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Youngbots, it's true that dating really does get better once you're older as long as you make something of yourself and don't turn into a spineless cuck
>be late 20s
>finally getting my shit together
>have college degree, healthy income, lots of room to grow in my career, have my own vehicle nice apartment (no roommates)
>decide to try online dating since I no longer feel like a total loser so maybe this time it might work
>get quite a few messages from desperate women my age or older who are rapidly approaching the wall
>these bitches would not have given me the time of day 5-10 years ago and now the shoe is on the other foot
>ignore them all
>occasionally reply back "No thanks not interested in old women"
>this really makes them reeeeeeeeeeeeee
>tfw only message or reply to messages from women who are 23 or younger
>tfw it's really easy to impress younger girls, just having some money and your own place is jawdropping to most of them
>tfw berrying it balls deep on the first date with 19-23 y/o college qts while ignoring the 28+ y/o used up roasties

It is a little unnerving how women approaching the wall can sniff out guys like me who have been alone most of their life, have a good income and are desperate for female attention. Fortunately I'm not falling for that shit. I could have been cucked to death by now if I was a beta pushover. I will just keep banging young, hot sluts until I find one worth keeping.
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>>34649663
Thank you Anon, you give me hope. Your post has inspired me to get my shit together by the time I'm 28.
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>>34649663
Im scared ill always be a loser. Im 19 but life is scary mate hold me pls
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>>34647824
Uhhh, you mean 29? Think you might need your eyes checked.
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>>34649593
>What's the source on this
>>34648287
>Source: Evolutionary Psychology, " Facial, olfactory, and vocal cues to female reproductive value."
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>>34647244
What the fuck are you talking about, you sexist pig? Women don't hit their intellectual and sexual peak until their late forties.
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>>34651119
They ugly as fuck by then though so
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>>34651119

>women intellectuals
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>>34651198
>not spotting the obviuous sarcasm.
But seriously, that's the narrative they are trying to push now, "45 is the new 25" "maturity, wisdom" etc.
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>>34651357
women dont need maturity or wisdom, thats the mans job
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Women's skin is thinner and less oily, that's the main reason they age so bad.
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>>34647244
My first gf was 14 and now I'm only attracted to 13-16 year olds. Just fucking kill me.
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>>34647432
How old is this graph?
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>>34651570
more healthy than these anything-under-18-is-pedo types
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>>34647432
I think I imagined an Australian flag next to your post
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>>34652122
That's exactly what a pedo would say you sick pedo fucker
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>>34651431
Interesting theory. Has this been scientifically proven?
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>>34647244
Women always hit peak attractiveness between 12 and 15, and this is NOT a new development. Age of consent laws were made by angry, used up old women jealous of girls.

Any man won't date above 18.
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>>34648287
>>34650548
>>34647432
This graph is not a part of the actual source linked to it.

For facial attractiveness, young girls received the highest attractiveness
ratings (M = 2.12, SD = 0.43), followed by that of adult women (M = 1.91, SD = 0.44), and
circum-menopausal women (M = 1.43, SD = 0.34). Both, young girls and adult women
were judged to be significantly more attractive than circum-menopausal women (both p <
.001), whereas the difference in attractiveness ratings between young girls and adult
women was not quite significant (p = .06).
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>>34652247
Pretty sure the vast majority of law makers world wide are male
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Women go out of their way to cake their faces with makeup from a very young age, which ruins their skin. This leads to either
>they need even more makeup to hide it -> they look like a 40-year-old with half a centimeter of makeup over their plastic face
or
>they don't use [much] makeup anymore but it shows their awful skin -> they look like a 30 year old at 18-20

Additionally, a lot of them are retarded and even if their skin happens to be not that bad, they put on that 40-year-old-style makeup anyway
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>>34648539
Reluctant kek.
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>>34649663
This actually gave me hope. Can't wait till I graduate and to show of my law school degree. Only 2 more years to go.
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>>34647432

Thanks, man. This justifies my sexual attraction to my neighbor's daughter. She just turned 15 last january and they invited over for a little dinner. Everytime I see her I just feel like filling her womb with my semen.

Also, she has a huge crush on me but AoC in my state is 16 so I just masturbate to the thoughts of me fucking her.
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>>34652624
You can start dating her without fucking her. It'll be late once Tyrone swoops in
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>>34648136
could you be more mad that the boys didn't fight over you
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>>34648562
>i just can't figure out why guys don't want to go to prison

yep sounds like a woman
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>>34650094
no shame if it takes you to 30 either. i think a man's peak is 30 through 35.
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>>34651119
>women
>intellectual peak

>believing magazine articles about women's sexual peak being 40
no thanks on the autistic children
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>>34652318
feminists pushed for age of consent laws, not men. women can vote now, charles.
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>>34648121
What if we weren't given the chance to?
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>>34653135
I think we should roll all social roles back. Let's make kids utilitarian again, get em mines and sweatshops contributing to society. Adulthood is a social structure, get outside and clean a chimney you weak gened mentally dysfunctional pieces of shit.
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>>34648122
>misusing term pedophile
Pedo means before pubetty, so less than 11
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>>34653091
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent

LMAO. It was indeed the fucking feminists.
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>>34653135
Whoopsie
This comment >>34653186 was meant for this poster >>34653091
Apologies
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>>34653207
Feminists ruin everything. It's painful that it's true.
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>>34653244
never did i state that is was good or bad, just stating facts.
you must be very fat and bitter, being so eager to attack.
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>>34647244

>It seems like

Give some sort of data demonstrating this with a proxy for "aging" that everybody agrees on.
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>>34653372
How is my position an attack? I'm serious, we should reduce the age of consent, child labor laws, and let's roll back voting laws to when you had to be a landowner.
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>>34653272
You should join my movement. We're trying to repeal the child welfare laws so we can fuck/work kids to death. You down?
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>>34653405
oh. haha.

riginald
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>>34653394
His ass is the source. You don't want him to post that.
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>>34653272
Feminists will cause the collapse of modern civilization.
And when men rises from the ruins and rebuilds society they will never again make the mistake of giving power to women.

And they will remain where they should for the remainder of human's history: under the authority of men.

I'm a girl, btw.
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>>34653658
Join my cause. >>34653417
We need to draw up a petition and shit but you sound like the type of guy we need. Possibly in a leadership position.
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>>34653465
>>34653394
Read the fucking thread you underage faggots.

>>34647432
>>34648287
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>>34653658
age?

>>34653417
>>34653670
fuck off you weird cunt
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>>34653670
I assume you didn't read my spoiler.

>>34653697
I'm 19. Why do you ask?
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>>34653697
Nah man let's do this what are you against traditional values or something you fucking faggot
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>>34652624
Listen bud. I know a 14 year old. She's really cute, and I think she's kind of into me. I won't lie, I find her attractive, but here's the thing, she's still a kid. Every time I talk to her, no matter how developed her body is, she's still an immature kid who likes superhero movies, pop music, and normal teen girl things. I couldn't bring myself to make a move on her, even if it were legal. At that age, your mind almost certainly isn't mature enough to handle sex, and wanting to be with young teens is probably a sign of immaturity in itself.
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>>34653741
She's immature because her parents thought she was a kid and didn't care to teach her the ropes of life.
Kids back in the 30 were self-aware at this age and a lot of them were already married and had jobs. It's the parents fault to believe because they're 14, they can't learn anything useful and let their brains rotting with consumerism and materialism.
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>>34653796
regardless of why it happened or who's fault it is, they're still children in this current day and age
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>>34653796
You're maybe not wrong. I know some 16 year olds who I think could probably handle a mature relationship, and others who should absolutely not even attempt anything like that, and you could probably say the same thing about most 20 year olds today. But the fact is, your average American 14 year old is mentally a child, and it's wrong to have sex with them.
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>>34653741
So basically you're saying you would fuck a hot 14 yo girl who watches Rohmer, listens to Maurice Ravel, plays tennis, and cooks at her free time.

I would, too.
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>>34653835
Uh, I'd have to make sure she really understands Rohmer.
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>>34653796
For sure, we should pull em out of educational institutions and get em into the fields and factories. That's how we bring jobs back to America, bring back child labor, pay the kids a few cents a day, boom. We just undercut all the foreign work force. And destroyed immigration as well, seeing as paying a child next to nothing to do the jobs of Mexicans would deincentivize Mexican laborers from coming over.
Put me on your cabinet Mr Trump I'm ready to help drain the swamp! Using child labor.
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>>34647244
>women over 25 can't be attrac-
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>>34653835
Only if that said girl reads Heidegger, too.
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>>34650104
You haven't even begun to experience true loneliness. Go and leave this place while your mind is still untainted. Or you'll end up 31 and on here no further in life than when you was 21
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>>34653723
fucking kids aint traditional values son
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>>34653741

>complaining about immature girls
>browsing 4chan isn't a sign of immaturity

Get over yourself, kid. Opportunity presents itself. Enjoy prime pussy.

Or you can go creep mode and groom her to whatever kind of woman you want her to be. Then marry and fuck her when she is of age.
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>>34653832
every girl whos started puberty can handle a "mature relationship". its called not being a pussy faggot and making her respect you. young girls only have problems and are seemingly in and out of relationships every week because they are forced to date guys their own age.
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>>34653998
Yeah it is. Age of consent used to be 7. Let's roll it back. Stop being a libcuck progressive feminazi
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>>34654022
we arent that broke anymore. it was AOC 7 because back then there was no welfare state and they had to prostitute themselves.

fucking a 7 year old is clearly degenerate, marrying one maybe less so, but you dont know what a 7 year old looked like back then.

everyone posts that pic of the 9 year old and that one dude newsclipping. well she doesnt look 9 at all. she looked 12 desu (not american standard).
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>>34654020
I think I've seen this post about three times now.
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>>34653868
Adjusted people know women over 25 can be attractive.

The "girls hit the wall right after their teens" meme is perpetuated by men who feel their only chance to have sex and relationships is with girls they can manipulate.
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>>34654022
Why not fuck age of consent altogether and start raping newborn babies while you're at it.

Fuckin' hell, m8. That's where you're going.
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Pedophiles and normlafags should just leave.
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>>34653868
i think the general consensus is that the wall is about 30.
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>>34654102
Because aoc was never that low you creepy pervert.
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>>34654093
Ok, marrying a 7yo, but copulation/fornication outside of marriage is disallowed until twelve. Eh, m80?
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>>34654095
This.

Women with class. There are women out there who are well-educated and knows how to take care of themselves. Only kind of women semi-worth pursuing.

>>34654136
Do you even sarcasm, or are you just dumb?
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>>34654128
Joanna is 35
Here's another qt who is over 30
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>>34648447
both are unattractive af
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>>34653825
You're missing the point. I said a "kid" is seen as a kid because he had a bad education so he or she can't manage by him/herself. If a 14yo is capable of that, we shouldn't consider him/her as a kid.
Hell, you could be put in prison as an early age but cannot be in a relationship consciously?
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>>34654184
>do you even sarcasm
II could ask you the same thing but i'm on a roll with this extreme traditionalist b8.
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>>34654094
im new here.

girls today are fucked in the head because they are infantilized. all girls are just looking for a father figure + sex.

if you are looking for a mate to ponder the inner workings of quantum physics then go camp outside harvard. i dont really care about that crap, i just want lots of babies.

>>34654158
no marrying a 7 year old is fucking stupid too. its unncessary. sex outside of marriage shouldnt exist. a father who marries off his daughter at 7 sounds like a loser if he cant provide for her longer.

heres how you do marriage right: wait until she is sexually attracted to men and let her pick guys who are physically attractive. then dad can vet for the other important things like money, prospects, brains, etc
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>>34654228
>wait until she
Nah, nigga. They should be married off for money and status as soon as they can. Boys and Girls, too, let's not let the breeders have all the fun. I'm sure the gays would love ripe young boipucci as much as the straights love virginal innocence. Bonus for the boys is you have a laborer too. The girls only purpose at this point should be to guarantee an heir, or atleast a pleasant female that can be bartered for more land or status.
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I think a factor of it is due to not being told basic beauty tips.
>don't drink or do drugs
>don't wrinkle your forehead
>wash your face
>use lotion, it's not just for blacks
and so on.
These are basic tips to learn, but no one follows them.
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>>34654225
Ok you got me there originally, son.
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>>34652624

Was she your sister's bestfriend? Are you the anon who posted the story about your loli gf?
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That feel when visited a museum a couple of weeks ago and they asked me if I'm under or over 18yo
I'm 23
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>>34653868
I guarantee she was hotter 10 years ago.

Your post is like those "prooving" tattooed women can be hot, as if they wouldn't be much better with clean skin.
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>>34654273
>don't wrinkle your forehead
You mean like don't raise your eyebrows so much?
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>>34654843
Here she is from the 2000s
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>>34654875
Not that much difference, apart from a worse haircut and a better angle on the newer pic.
Still, the point persists. There are those rare few who keep their beauty for a long time, but youth is the high point of female beauty.
That's what >>34647432 shows, that the percentage of attractiveness stays with only a few as time goes.
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>>34654128
I think the general consensus is that you're a fucking moron.
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>>34654843
You have to be 18 to post on this site. Come back in a few years.
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>>34655005
When I initially posted Joanna I wasn't even trying to say women aren't more attractive in their youth.
I just think it's a meme that women hit an age then suddenly turn into trolls.
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>>34649663
>>34647432
>>34647244
There's a reason why guys used to marry girls 5 years younger than them back in the olden days.
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>>34655129
More like 15. Grandma was 16 years younger than gramps when they married. I notice the same trend in other people's grandfathers, even across different countries.
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>It seems like women are aging faster than ever. They're bangable by the time they're 15 or 16, but a startling number of them look worn out and busted by 25.

Our modern diet and lifestyle is causing accelerated physical maturing, with earlier sexual development and puberty. And associated with this, accelerated aging and eventually senescence.

I work in a medical office, and see perfect examples of this. Overweight metabolic-syndrome women who are smokers who look like senior citizens by the time they're in the 50's, they're all too common. Compared with slender first-generation Asian immigrants, who look about 10-20 years younger than their stated ages.

Pic related, the two monkeys are the same age.
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>>34655301
So what kind of diet and lifestyle keeps someone youthful?
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>>34655329
>So what kind of diet and lifestyle keeps someone youthful?

The recommendation you hear everywhere, there is no "doctors hate this MIRACLE WEIGHT LOSS SECRET".

Restricting calories (especially sugar and carbohydrates), staying physical active. Just look at old street photos from the past, there are few obese people, and almost no morbidly obese. Back then people walked around to where they needed to go, and ate food instead of processed food-like substances.
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How bout more Jackie?
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>>34647526
>I made eye contact with a female
lmfao you know that's a normal day for normal males right?
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>>34647244
I think it's the combination of things that make up the yolo lifestyle.

Girls see whores on tv and want to be just like them.
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>>34655329

Aside from excess calories and obesity, rates of alcohol use and smoking have been increasing.

Smoking interferes with collagen synthesis and blood flow, making skin age faster. And the aldehyde metabolic products of alcohol inflict a lot of free-radical damage (besides alcohol being a lot of empty calories, as empty as refined sugars and starches).
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>>34655544

Correction - I should clarify that rates have been increasing among young women, not necessarily among the population as a whole.
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>>34652318
>he thinks lawmakers aren't married
Oh, you beautiful summer child.
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>>34647244
>>34647432
My gf is 18, looks 13-14.
Did I win?
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>>34655794
giet
owt
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>>34655564
very interesting that it's only young women
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Who here /14AoC/ masterrace? Come over to Germany lads the water's fine.
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>>34653741
>likes superhero movies, pop music, and normal teen girl things.
newsflash, they don't magically grow out of those things when they get older. once a pleb always a pleb. have you even talked to girls older than that?
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>>34656221
unteralterbach led me to believe that the hysteria over there is just as bad as anywhere tho
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>>34655794
>gf

OUT OUT OUT
ABSOLUTELY OUT
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I think it's just natural biology like other anons are saying. It hurts though, I'll never have a young girl all to myself. If I do ever get a girl, she'll be like 30 at the earliest.
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>>34651570
Why is this
When I was 15 I was attracted to 15 year olds

I still want to fuck 15 year olds now
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>>34655479
Yeah but this one I recognised.

Very jarring experience. I hope she didn't recognise me.
She was in a store, working, in a really unflattering uniform which adds to the cringe.
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>>34647432
It is legal to fuck 14 years olds where I live

>tfw
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>>34654095
>who feel their only chance to have sex and relationships is with girls they can manipulate.
Are they wrong?
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>>34657523
>implying 14 yos want to fuck you
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>>34651119

Wrong. Women hit their intellectual peak at 12 and their physical/sexual peak by 21. It's all downhill from there. A woman who hasn't married and had at least one child by 30 is basically worthless to any man.
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>>34653868

Correct. That inch thick makeup and manjaw say everything you need to know.
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>>34654128

That's because the chance for a child having developmental disorders like autism and general potato status absolutely fucking skyrockets if the mother has them after they turn 30. It's wildly irresponsible for a middle aged woman to have children because it's more likely than not that the child will have disabilities.
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>>34647244
We'll it's always been like that hasn't it?
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>>34647432
>men prefer 9 year olds over 50 year olds
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It's because they don't take proper care of their skin, mostly

>tfw I take meticulous care of my skin
>wear sunscreen everyday
>moisturize regularly
>exfoliate regularly
>wear only concealer and eyeliner

meanwhile every stacy out there with a face caked on with makeup is going to develop terrible skin by her 30s
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Are you sure? I've seen countless girls who are 15 going on 30 in the UK, it's not that they age faster and look hotter when younger, a lot of them turn into middle age women who run nail salons when they're still 18 or 17. There's chemicals in their food, chemicals in their water, chemicals in their makeup. It's only natural they turn out this way.
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>>34647432

This is for white girls guaranteed. Indian/Chinese/Indian girls don't change much by their early 20s.

Some of them can be in their 30s and not have a single wrinkle.

I'm half Indian and I'm a 34 year old man. Just got carded buying alcohol yesterday and the legal age is 19 in Canada.

White people in general age poorly. But especially white women.

At 30+ most women are also fat as fuck (of all races) so the percentages are pretty accurate due to that.
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>>34653658
You're just as retarded as a feminist. Pandering to MRAs is the lowest of lows and the ultimate attempt to be "one of the guuuuyyys xD"
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>>34658217
Hmmm who's the roastie here?
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>>34648287
>Source: Evolutionary Psychology, " Facial, olfactory, and vocal cues to female reproductive value."

Just pulled that up:

https://ai2-s2-pdfs.s3.amazonaws.com/5178/d9ae3aa9ffb0deafacdb59b48f717257f5bc.pdf

It doesn't have that graph in it. I'm calling bait thread.

Some incel made this no different than those fake penis size graphs.
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>>34647432
Can I get a source on the research behind this chart?
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>>34658273

Racist it's down to outside effects. All the Indians I know are run ragged because they are immigrants and have to work hard/ like drinking alcohol when they are not working.

My gf is Asian (real asian not indianshitskin) and it's not hard to tell she is 25.
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What a beautiful progressive thread. Fpbp

Yeah, cunts these days are more retarded than ever and allowed to abuse themselves plus fornicate with undeveloped boys their age lol what a mess. Men only mature by age 28ish whereas females at 14 cite Schopenhauer for that tho. The girls who say they 'look 14' are really just feeble undeveloped faggots and can get btfo.

Due to a dysgenics operation from the likes of Bill Gates and the horny genius who but female hormones in food people are sickly and dying fast with autism lol. Comes down to lifeforce, viriculture (book), bone structure (vit D), raw foods help and drinking plus bathing in your pee can turn you into a saint. Trust me on that one. Pissjugs were the truth right under your noses. Become beautiful and eternally youthful like me then we can pimp preteens.
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>>34658524
>implying there is any
>implying this wasn't made up completely

>>34658548
Actually it's scientific fact that whites have the thinnest skin and thus age faster. Blacks have the thickest and age slowest.

"Black don't crack".
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Lotion is bad for your skin, degenerates. Lol petroleum.

Pee made mine soft as a little girl. A chinese woman masseuse said I was "lady" which I took as their highest cultural compliment.

Bigfoot is a higher dimensional creature.
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>>34658631

Good luck walking around smelling like urine.
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>>34658779

Also urine is literally toxic waste your body doesn't want so is excreting.
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>>34658803

And refined petroleum products are just animals and plants decomposed and purified into the gentlest components.
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>>34658779
Thanks. I do all the time you dumb impotent faggot.

Pheromones through the roof. I am a golden god.
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>>34658862

Do you have a golden shower fetish?
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>>34648562
Didn't want to be perceived as creepy by friends and family.
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>>34647244
> google the girl in that picture
> she was 14 years old when that picture was taken

whelp better go register down at the sherriff's office because i guess i'm a pedo
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>>34652624
Start banging her when she turns 16, senpai. Women are used up and damaged by the first year of uni.

>>34653741
Good job, you just described most western women under 30!
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>friend has cute nieces
>sort of hot
>turns 15 this year
>nohope.jpeg
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>>34659005
>Clothed picture
>pedo

Or are you parodying the fags who flip shit and call mods when a picture of a woman under 30 is posted?
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>>34658903
Mine is extraordinarily pure, a delight with which most can't compare. My pee is more holy than roasites and bestowing it upon them would be unrighteous.
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>>34647432
Anti-pedos BTFO
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>>34659409

It's not scientific. It's just something an incel created.
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>>34658506
this study is still sure to make some roasties toasty
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>>34658506
>https://ai2-s2-pdfs.s3.amazonaws.com/5178/d9ae3aa9ffb0deafacdb59b48f717257f5bc.pdf

Here's the real data from that article

ie. Trend towards greater attractiveness as girls but no statistical significance.

ie. Men will fuck anything.

ie. Women still own the dating market in their 30s/40s.

ie. The wall is a myth.
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>>34659511
Yeah but not really.

See
>>34659548

Not even statistically significant. Just don't be fat as a woman and you can't lose.
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>>34659569
the people doing the study (i.e. actual scientists) considered it statistically significant if you read their summary. i'll take their word over yours
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>>34659609

Isn't the whole purpose of the vertical lines on the graph that if they overlap between two categories it's not significant?
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>>34659661

Guess not.

Here's the quote:

Both, young girls and adult women
were judged to be significantly more attractive than circum menopausal women (both p < .001), whereas the difference in a
ttractiveness
ratings between
young
girls and adult
women was not quite significant
(p= .06). "

So don't be menopausal.

Also it's not like this helps us in any way. If you can't get girls your own age it's not like you can go out and pick up 15 year old girls who are all fapping to Justin Bieber or some other tween star.
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>>34657607
Maybe not in some cases. But that doesn't automatically make the girls/women they can't get unattractive.
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>>34659661
just because they overlap at the extremes doesn't change the average being higher or lower, which probably works on a bell curve meaning the majority in each group will be centered on the big circle
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>>34649663
That sounds amazing. Can't wait till i'm 30. I work hard to make something out of myself the next 9 years. If it won't work out i'll kill myself and i it does thatn i'll enjoy young teens while laughing about ageing roasties.
Thanks for the motivation oldfag.
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>>34659761

Don't listen to him. It's all lies. I'm 34 and make 200k+ per year and can't get any replies from "college cuties". He's probably a tall handsome white chad.
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>>34659761
Boy are you going to be disappointed
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>>34659794

Granted I hate online dating so I just sent 20-30 messages then rage quit.

Got 1 reply from one cute girl who didn't reply again and 1 reply from another which I didn't see for 8 days so now just ignored plus I was really just trolling her with my first message and she trolled back.

It's a shit show.
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>>34659896

End result - I decided I'm gonna go ahead with a SARPE jaw operation (even though I already had jaw surgery once) to try to make me better looking given that looks are all that matter to women.

It's gonna be a nightmare but life already is.
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>>34653835

>tfw can't bang hot 14 yo girl while listening to Bolero after playing tennis
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I would say they look older now because of social media and YouTube, there's more information out there for them to appear older through makeup, ten years ago it would have been hard to find thousands of videos giving step by step guides on how to do almost anything
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>>34659661

depends on what you decide is "statistically significant," what confidence interval you use. the convention is 95%
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bet you fags can't guess her age
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>>34660485

I can guess that she wouldn't want me so it's irrelevant.
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>>34660617
You have a good point there
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>>34653868
low standards much anon used up cunt trying to look hawt
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>>34660673

99% of the people complaining about AoC on the Internet are guys who can't get girls at all.

I find it hilarious.

I'm an incel. What the fuck do I care what the AoC is?

Like really, 18 year old hotties don't want me, but if there was no AoC all of a sudden 16 year old ones would?

It's a fucking joke. This entire conversation people have is retarded.
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Seem like the picture in >>34647432 comes from:

>An internet survey was carried out as part of the documentary "Are All Men Pedophiles?", in which men were shown pictures of females without being informed of their age and asked if they found them sexually desirable or not. Girls about 14 got the highest ratings.
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>>34649663
Good on you son.
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>>34660713
This is the same line of logic feminists use to tell men to not talk about female problems. As shitty as this place is, the input people provide here is still more rational and worthwhile than what you'd get from a random group of normalfags. But yes, this discussion is meaningless, much like about every other thread on this site.
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>>34658506
>I'm calling bait thread.
>Some incel made this no different than those fake penis size graphs.

Found the source of >>34647432
It's actually from a documentary called "Are all men pedophiles?" where they showed a bunch of pictures to men without telling them the girls ages.

Plus the study you're quoting shows something similar when it comes to visual ratings.
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>>34660802

You know what would happen if AoC was abolished?

20 year old Chads would bang even more 15 year old girls than they already are.

My life would be identical. Even if AoC was abolished the age of prostitution (if prostitution was legal) wouldn't decrease due to labor laws.
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My gf is Asian and she's 35 and looks like a 60 year old grandmother. Few years ago when she was in China she looked 18 at age 30.

I got her after Chad was finished.

Can't even get my dick hard for her and her saggy tits anymore.
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>>34660817
>It's actually from a documentary called "Are all men pedophiles?" where they showed a bunch of pictures to men without telling them the girls ages.

Doesn't sound scientific. They probably recruited the men from a pedo-friendly forum.

I'm not saying the results are false or real. I'm saying I'm a scientist and I don't give a shit unless it was done using a valid methodology and rigorous enough to pass a basic peer review.
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>>34660884

Why do you bother? Are there any benefits to the arrangement?

I'm 34 and those are the only options I have - old fat ugly chicks.

So far I've declined to bother as I don't think it's worth my energy/time. Any different perspective to share?
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>>34660924
I'm 25 going on 26 and I couldn't get girls from tinder or online etc unless they were fat and younger than me but she's not fat. But now I see same problem

I need prime slim pussy to be happy
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>>34660895
>finding a 14 year old girl attractive makes you a pedo
>I'm saying I'm a scientist
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>>34660954
and I have to use viagra to even bang her.

Trust me though it's better than dying alone like I was hell bent on doing.

Had a young hot chick when I was 18 but she aged and left me for a Mudslum

Life is just hell when you aren't Chad desu even as a normal fag as you may label me life is hell.

Chad or death.
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>>34660895
I doubt there will ever be a truly accurate study on taboo sexual attitudes and behavior where people don't self censor while still being representative of the general populace.

Either you get a bunch of people who will lie even if there is some degree of anonymity, or a bunch of freaks who don't care about coming over as freaks.
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>>34660973

I didn't say that though did I? I'm just saying they probably recruited the people from a pedo friendly incel forum like 4chan.

If they did it with real average men in a valid format I would be interested to see the result.

Also if they did it with matched BMI for all women in the pictures I'd be interested as well.

I would personally expect a pretty flat attractiveness up to 30 then a drop off.

Women up to 35 are still impossible to get to even respond in online dating if they are slim. They're still inundated with attention and Chad hunting.

So I doubt the attractiveness drops off that much in any practical or meaningful way.
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>>34649663
This, I'm only 24 and starting to notice it, i was the shy loser in school, now i have some money and prospects and sorted out my appearance, women come easy to me, while the girls from my school are dried up with ugly kids.
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>>34660954
>>34661006

34 and you need Viagra? Losing the ability to be aroused by women?

You should probably see a doctor who doesn't just push pills to treat symptoms. It sounds like you might have more serious issues.
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>>34661028

There have been some penile tumescence studies done which show average men are aroused by women <18, but this is common sense.

AoC wasn't designed to be tailored to what men find attractive. It was designed to protect young people from potentially "exploitative" relationships until they at least have a chance to finish high school.
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>growth hormones and all kinds of bullshit in food
>women experiencing stress levels as hard as men due to being expected to work for a living which is objectively more straining on the body than raising children and tending a home
>constantly in contact with toxic materials and radio waves
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>>34661077
>sorted out my appearance

Let me guess. You are a tall white guy who was too skinny so now gained some weight to become normal and now you're living on Chadmode.

Go fuck yourself.
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>>34660713
But I must argue. I must be "right"

It's all I have
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>>34661093
>AoC wasn't designed to be tailored to what men find attractive. It was designed to protect young people from potentially "exploitative" relationships until they at least have a chance to finish high school.

Also I should say AoC laws were enacted by men because average politicians who enact laws have daughters and they don't want to see their daughters getting banged at 13 by 25 year old Chads.

Parents of both genders support AoC to protect their children from "sexual exploitation". Parents are the primary voters and lawmakers.

It isn't a feminist conspiracy. That's again retarded.
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>>34661093
I completely agree that there needs to be aoc to protect kids - who are invariably idiots - from getting into trouble. Although, ultimatley the only thing that truly can protect kids is a caring and functional family.

But the question here was purely what men find most attractive biologically, and the answer seems to be peak fertility - which usually is somewhere around 14-16.
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>>34647432
im mostly attracked to 23-26 years old

dont get me wrong some 15yo are bangable im not gonna pretend that it isnt true but its def not my favorite range
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>>34661228
>It isn't a feminist conspiracy.
Pushing for AoC laws was a explicitly feminist agenda. I don't see how that is in any way debatable.

Of course fathers don't want 25yo chads to bang their 13yo daughters. But back then girls had stricter supervision and a huge stigma against premartial sex that was more effective than any AoC law.
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>>34661242
>there needs to be aoc to protect kids - who are invariably idiots

Personally I don't believe there should be AoC because I don't give a fuck. I was just saying "that's why AoC exists".

According to OKC data, female attractiveness peaks at around 20-21 not younger like 18.
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>>34661311
>back then girls had stricter supervision and a huge stigma against premartial sex that was more effective than any AoC law.

Wut. Teen pregnancy rates have gone down last I heard.

Men put in place AoC laws to protect their daughters. That's the end of the story.

Men decided these laws.
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>>34661342
>Women have 50%+ of the vote.
>Men still decide everything.
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>>34661421

Stricter AoC laws are almost universally written by conservative governments who have greatest support among white men.

eg. In Canada it was the conservatives who last increased our AoC laws and banned prostitution.

Liberal governments supported more by women do not do these things so readily.
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>>34661342
>Wut. Teen pregnancy rates have gone down last I heard.
Over the past decade, plus before the issue wasn't having a kid at 18 - it was having it out of wedlock.

>That's the end of the story.
Well, thanks for swooping in to give the definitive answer on this topic.

Also you seem to think that aoc is 18 everywhere. In the majority of the world it's 14-16.
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>>34661468
Well correct me if I'm wrong: but conservatives still have a sizable portion of female voters, at times even the majority. Or are you saying that women overwhelmingly vote liberal and men overwhelmingly right? That is one huge fucking myth.
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>>34661505
>the majority of the world it's 14-16.

And rising thanks to conservatards like the attached.

Voted in primarily by men. As usual.

Conservative male politicians seem to believe the following when it comes to women:

>AoC should be as high as possible
>Abortion should be illegal
>Contraception should be discouraged and abstinence encouraged
>Prostitution should be illegal

This is consistent across the ages. It comes from a puritanical perspective of fatherhood and "protecting one's daughter".

If the Liberals (who women support) were in power 10 years ago we'd still have legal prostitutes in Canada and a 14 year AoC.
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>>34661590

As stated, Conservative male politicians on average tend to believe the following as a package of beliefs:

>AoC should be as high as possible
>Abortion should be illegal
>Contraception should be discouraged
>Abstinence should be encouraged
>Prostitution should be illegal

This has nothing to do with feminists. When it comes to prostitution for example, at least half of feminists believe it should be legal because it's a woman's choice.
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Every cock takes time off a girls life
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>>34661599
>the world is the US.
Conservatives in my country don't give a shit about that but are highly corrupt and force the religion angle heavily to get votes.
The majority of their voters are women.

>AoC should be as high as possible
14 in my country, no ever discussed having it raised or lowered in decades.
>Abortion should be illegal
Yeah, because that is totally not a complex issue: if you're against abortions anytime anywhere you are a puritanical shitlord.
>Contraception should be discouraged
>Abstinence should be encouraged
That is an US thing: you're not the fucking world.
>Prostitution should be illegal
Again; that's a complex topic with pros and cons, even if you look at it from a purely utilitarian perspective.
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>>34661863

I'm Canadian. That's how it is in North America. I can't speak for the rest of the world.

North America is my world.
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>>34661599
>Voted in primarily by men. As usual.
Ugh, right? Men ruined this world, can't wait till we have them all neutered.

>"protecting one's daughter".
How dare they, the shitlords.

But nice rhetoric:
>call out the creepers on this thread.
>condemn the men who want to keep them at bay with laws as evil conservatives.
>???
>PROFIT
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>>34661904
>North America is my world.
And you're so much of an idiot that you can't appreciate that your experience is not universally true.
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>>34647244
>15 or 16
oh you
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>>34661932

I have no vested interest in this discussion. Attractive women want nothing to do with me whether they are 18 or 16.

If I could have my way AoC would be abolished because IDGAF and it would be funny to watch 20 year old Chads fucking everyone's 13 year old daughters.

But the point I'm making is this is all about parents trying to protect their kids. Parents are the ones who decide the laws and they don't base those laws off of which ages of girls/guys they would have liked to have banged before they settled down.
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>>34662001

My world extends only as far as any geographic area I will ever live or experience life in.

I don't give a fuck about the rest of the world, unless I make good on my long term fantasy of travelling to 3rd world nations for sex tourism.
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>>34662020
Its pure laziness on the parents part. Why would you even want the concept of an aoc to exist? That's not conservative. Women should be getting married
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>>34662065
Fine, but don't make sweeping generalizations about human nature based on your local political landscape.
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>>34653741
>your mind almost certainly isn't mature enough to handle sex
Nice (((opinion))) but sex isn't as big a deal as you think it is.
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Sex outside of wedlock should be 18, age of marriage should be 12-14
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>>34662291

I'm 34 and apparently I'm still not mature enough for sex, so it is a big deal to me.
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This girl is 28.
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>>34654871
Yes. It leaves imprints whenever you do it.
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>>34663008

Can't live your life without making facial expressions.

Only Chad can get away with being stone faced 24/7.

The uglier you are the more expressive you have to be to fit into society.
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