Liberals are literally destroying this country and it depresses

>>34581245
Fortunately normies are starting to catch onto what unreasonable sacks of shit they are too. There's no way trump wins without the left being full of hypocritical crybullies that spend 90% of their time pushing identity politics entitlement and making people hate them.

>>34581295
I'm so fucking mad. They're smashing windows now. Why? What does this random store have to do with Milo Yiannopoulos anyway?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDthOCU-mBk

>liberals are literally destroying this country

how are they doing this?

>>34581333
By literally destroying things.

"Liberals are literally destroying this country" is a stupid thing to say. I'm not defending leftists trashing things, but I don't think that many people are. These people are a very small minority that happen to be highly visible. Let's have a sense or proportion.

And anyways Berkeley has a long history of student riots. It's almost a rite of passage. I think the UC system and our country will survive.

>>34581402
>These people are a very small minority
I guess you're right, but I can't help but notice that liberals hold violent, destructive "protests" way more often than conservatives do. I'm not even aware of the last time conservatives did anything like this. Liberals have been doing it nonstop since Trump's election.

I know there's been right-wing terrorists, but they tend to work alone, not in these huge mobs. I know we'll survive, but I hate this so much. I want people to get along, but liberal students try to shut down Milo wherever he goes. I'm not even a big fan of his, but they make me so mad. I think they honestly and sincerely don't want free speech.

>liberals
I think you mean non-whites. Because that's what it's about now.
Non-whites, the white women who hunger for brown cock, and the beta white men who orbit those white women

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Agreed OP. I think the saddest part is how quickly the liberal anti-Milo protesters turned to baseless character attacks.

Holding up signs saying Milo's "racist/sexist/bigoted/etc" when there's zero compelling evidence for any of those. Only massive stretches of logic, something the left is known for unfortunately.

>>34581245
I agree. Liberals like Milo need to be purged

>>34581471
I kind of agree with you. I've known conservatives to hold protests, but I don't remember any violent protests from the conservative end of the spectrum. If anyone wants to jog my memory, please do so. I hate it because it does not help their cause to act out like a bunch of barbarians.

>>34581402
god damn it I'm sick of 'but they're the minority'
maybe this isn't what you're saying, maybe it is, but the minority isn't just some random thing that happens ONCE IN A WHILE. The 'minority' is destroying buildings, torturing innocents, inciting violence, COMMITTING VIOLENCE, terrorizing and looting and rioting all in the sake of 'fuck fascists' and god damn it it doesn't matter if they're the minority if they're doing this much damage.

>>34581471
Rioting is a young man's game and conservatives tend to be older than progressives.

For what it's worth, law enforcement has historically been more concerned about right wing extremism because, as you alluded to, it has historically been much more deadly.

What worries me isn't that rowdy protests (because really, compared against things like Los Angeles 1992 these kind of disturbances can't properly be called riots) is what they're protesting. Students at Berkeley used to get wound up over their right to free speech. Now they want the opposite. That's a much bigger problem than some busted windows.

>>34581494
It's incredible how a gay Jew gets accused of being a Nazi everywhere he goes. These people refuse to think. I think that's what it comes down to. I'm watching the stream and I'm just fuming.

>>34581533
I second this. If there's ever been a big conservative protest that turned violent let me know. There's a huge pro-life rally every single year in DC, bigger than any of these anti-Trump mobs. As far as I know, it's never once gotten violent.

>>34581485
Exactly this.

Or1g

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>>34581516
I've honestly never heard any liberal criticize Islam. I'd imagine they'd get eaten alive by their own party if they did. https://youtu.be/SHZBGidQcEs
>>34581541
This. Pic related.

>>34581580
Example of a prominent left wing talking head talking about Islam. took me about 30 seconds to find this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9i7fRy26V4

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>>34581541
Exactly. 230 AntiFa were arrested, facing felony riot charges, for throwing bricks at police. That's not a tiny minority, that's hundreds of organized terrorists (terrorism means using violence to pursue a political aim.)

>>34581541

so what are you trying to assert? the point he's trying to make is that the actions of a minority in a group shouldn't be used to generalize the entire group, so people should be careful not to claim or act like being violent or
irrational is an innate quality of liberals. are you saying that since this group of liberals are being violent that all liberals should be regarded as being violent and irrational?

>>34581609
Bill Maher is literally the only liberal I'm aware of who says this sort of thing.

>>34581609
I'm actually glad you posted that because I remember Bill Maher's liberal female guest chewed him out over his views, not sure if I'll be able to find it but Bill Maher absolutely gets criticized for having more moderate/right views on occasion. So you basically proved my own point with that one.

Say what you guys want about Trump but the fact that almost all of the violence is coming from leftists really tickles the brain.

>>34581638
listen I realize that not all liberals are violent extremists, but they don't stand up to the violent extremists and take their party back. Instead of seeing shining examples of their party you see the outspoken minority who commit atrocious acts and their party just says 'but muh feels' which is completely unacceptable.

>>34581629
230 out of (to take one example of people that don't like Trump) 65,844,954 people who voted for Hillary Clinton. That's 0.0003%. You are telling me that isn't a small minority? What word would you use to describe that percentage?

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>>34581245
B A S H

T H E

F A S H

Too bad he wasn't killed.

And you're right, Liberalism is destroying the world.

these leftists would send all neets to the gulag if they win

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>>34581669
It just makes me sick. Where are the fucking police? These people are literal terrorists.

sjws will never seem to realize that doing shit like this proves that their ideals can't hold up to debate and that the only way they get what they want is with a bludgeon, not intelligence.

this just makes people hate them more and more.

>>34581676
False equivalence, you have to compare it to the amount of AntiFa protesters.
>>34581609
>>34581660
Finally found the clip, starting at 2:00. Just like I said, Bill Maher gets chewed out for his non-liberal views. https://youtu.be/qQj9c5g6v7Q?t=2m

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>>34581330
They're trashing a Starbucks now.

Why?

>>34581660
>>34581641
Here are a few more examples that I was able to very quickly find.

NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/04/opinion/the-problem-with-the-islamic-apocalypse.html?_r=0

The Atlantic: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/

Slate: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/fighting_words/2006/02/cartoon_debate.html

John Steward (not him saying it, but giving it a fair hearing): http://www.mediaite.com/tv/stewart-challenges-ayaan-hirsi-ali-how-is-islam-different-than-any-other-religion/

>>34581764
The Slate article is by Christopher Hitchens. He's been dead for years.

>>34581764
If they're criticizing Islam to the degree Milo does, then massive props to them.

>>34581707
It's not a false equivalence, you're making a specious point. The proportion of hooligans acting like hooligans is high, that's correct.

The statement was that "liberals" are destroying the country. I don't give two shits about AntiFa protestors. They make up a very tiny majority of the large group of people tarred with the false equivalence made by OP.

>>34581778
Ok, then feel free to do your own research if 2006 is too dated. Finding these took me around two minutes. I'm sure you could find many many more examples without much trouble.

>>34581799
I guess what I meant was, people are destroying the country, and they all happen to be liberal.

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>>34581799
I think OP may have meant that liberals are more violent than conservatives. I'd be interested to see if there are any studies on this. 230 AntiFa protesters arrested for violence, where as I don't know of any time in the last few years where 200+ conservatives were arrested for violence.

>>34581864
I don't know the answer to that. My guess, which I mentioned somewhere above, is that progressives being on the whole younger than conservatives probably tend to get into this kind of shit more often.

I'm much less concerned about the level of rowdiness on the Berkeley campus which has always been this way, than the views of these protestors. College students objecting to free speech is a new development and something that worries me.

>>34581864
Churchill killed millions of people through famine and didn't care because they were just "savages." I don't give a fuck what an imperialist murderer like him has to say.

Also of course conservatives aren't arrested for violence, their violence doesn't threaten the state at all, they just carry out terrorist attacks on blacks and muslims, and women at planned parenthood.

Liberals aren't even in positions of power. Republicans own all three branches of government now, and you still bitch? How are they destroying your country when your party is leading it? Fuck out of here, this alt right movement is as annoying as the PC culture. Your all sensitive, just don't want to admit it.

>>34581939
Not sure if you're serious or if you're trying to make people on the left look bad.

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>>34581920
Sure, that's a completely valid opinion. And props for being concerned with University's restriction of free speech, it's a massive shame colleges have become so enamored in social justice recently. It's honestly Orwellian.
>>34581830
Don't worry OP, I got your back, I knew what you meant.

>>34581945
>How are they destroying your country when your party is leading it?
I mean they're literally destroying banks right now because their college invited a speaker whose views they disagree with.

>College students objecting to free speech is a new development and something that worries me.
I think they would seriously get rid of the second amendment if they could.

>>34581245
>I just want us all to get along

this is a lie

nobody wants to get along.

you would like to see the other side burn just as much as i would like to see your side burn

>>34581953
I'm completely serious, name one thing false there.

His statement is ridiculous. If there are people fighting a tyrannical government, and another people fighting for it, who do you think the state will crack down on?

>>34581993
They crack down on people who are causing property damage, which are liberals almost 100% of the time.

>>34581971
What I really wonder is what is causing it. Most of these views that get dumped under the umbrella of SJW are in some way related to the theory of intersectional feminism. But that's a philosophy that has existed in the fringes for many decades. I don't know why it's moment seems to have finally come.

Incidentally, one of my many complaints with Milo is that in criticizing these views he never seems to go beyond preaching to the choir that they're bad. I've yet to hear a compelling explanation from anyone as to why this kind of stuff has gained so much traction in the last few years.

>>34582012
Muh property!!!!!

Fuck the American revolutionaries then! How dare they destroy millions of dollars of tea!

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Also, OP, before I go to sleep I just wanted to raise your spirits a bit, you'll definitely get a kick out of this.

You remember the businesses the Anti-Trump protesters destroyed? Starbucks and Bank of America? Both businesses heavily supported Hillary Clinton, to the extent they donated hundreds of thousands to her.

Also, the limousine they lit on fire was actually owned by a Muslim immigrant and costed him seventy grand. Liberals are destroying themselves.

>>34581245
Maybe milo and co should stop being unamerican fascist cowards?

>>34581993
ah yes because robespierre's france never had an age of terror or anything like that!

>tfw useless piece of shit but also borderline anarcho-capitalist
>want to kill myself in order to stop being a burden on society

>>34582069
Why should he have to?

I'd join the protest, but that's because I hate fags and it's funny to make that fag suffer.

Where are the right wing death squads when you need them?

>>34582088
He doesn't have to but he can expect shit like this to happen because surprise most people hate their fascist bullshit.

>>34581245
I don't really like Milo's faggotry but this is pretty goddamn retarded.

these antifas think they're fighting "fascism" but they don't realize they are committing fascism with trying to censor and harm people they disagree with.


the MSM doesn't even bother reporting on this too, they rather report on some falseflag about Trump supporters pulling on hijabs then to talk about ACTUAL violence from the left.

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>>34582069
Thankfully there's zero evidence Milo supports fascism. It's like how liberals call all Trump supporters "racist" despite there being zero evidence.

For fuck's sake, this is why Trump won. Because the left seemingly very often refuses to use evidence to substantiate their claims.

>>34582110
>fascist

You keep using that word, I don't think you know what it means

>>34581402
Your criticism would only be valid if he said "ALL liberals are literally destroying this country." It is quite clear that the sentence means "SOME liberals are literally destroying this country," which is true. They are currently engaged in the process of destruction, but the destruction is not yet complete. So, the verb tense "destroyING" is appropriate. And if they got what they want, which is apparently Hillary Clinton's war with Russia over Syria, the only living things left in this country after the nuclear exchange would be single-celled organisms.

>>34582062
Most AntiFa's are NOT liberals, they are socialists who couldn't give two fucks about Clinton or Starbucks and certainly not Bank of America.

And why should we? Any one of those corporations will make more in profit in one day, including the expenses of any damage, than any of their employees will make in their life.

>>34582110
Oh wow he's exercising his free speech to say things to deliberate piss libtards off? What a fascist!

>>34582110
destroying property and attacking people for their different opinions isn't fascist? Boy is the left lucky.

>>34582114
>we're not racist! we swear! we just want to gas all the spics, kikes, niggers and pajeets! 14/88!

>>34582062
Makes me feel good knowing that the insanity can't last much longer. I just wanted to have a comfy night of video games since I'm off work tomorrow, but now I'm just sad and angry at the way things are.

I think it's ironic that they shut people like Milo down by saying he's "a threat to the safety of students", but then they go do stuff like this.

>>34582110
Let's ignore what can be expected to happen and focus on what should happen. Surely you'd agree that he has the right to speak about what he wants to in any public venue of his choose, correct? And surely you'd agree that anyone who wants to hear him speak has the right to listen, correct?

If you agree with those facts then surely you agree that violent protestors are infringing on the rights of others, no?

>>34581778

I know. I miss him so.

>>34582069
He's not even American

>>34581533
There have been some conservative violent protests of Planned Parenthood centers and murders of abortion doctors.

>>34582136
He can say whatever the fuck he wants but others have the right to get up in his shit too. Again, most people don't take kindly to fascist shit.

>>34582144
It's a reaction to his deliberately inflammatory talking points. Deal with it.

>>34581991
So let's have a war already then.

>>34582130
Not interested in semantics. Your post is facile and adds absolutely zero to the conversation.

>>34582145
>60 million americans are literal nazis so they supported a die hard israel supporter with a jewish daughter who once said on the radio that he "would love it" if she dated a black guy
Really made me think

>>34582178
>Deal with property damage, violence, and fascism because someone had a different opinion.

I'm sorry, are you retarded?

>>34582178
>others have the right to get up in his shit too
Not when it breaks California State law. Big difference between a peaceful protest and a full on riot shitstorm where people are smashing buildings

>>34582178

Liberals can only defend violence against people with different viewpoints for so long before the right takes a leaf from their book (only with far more AR's)

>>34581544
The violent right-wingers in this country are mostly Muslim extremists. Christian right-wingers are usually peaceful. Compared to fundamentalist Islam, fundamentalist Christianity is practically Marxist and utopian.

>>34582176
>There have been some conservative violent protests of Planned Parenthood centers and murders of abortion doctors.
The murdering of abortion doctors are usually carried out by single individuals, and then strongly condemned by the mainstream pro-life movement. Have any regular protests ever gotten violent?

>>34582186
>make stupid pedantic post which is incorrect
>someone makes pedantic post which is at least correct
>lol stop being so facile bro

>>34582190
>h-he's not a racist! he just wants to gas all the spics! it's ok they're inferior mud races anyway haha! 14/88!

>>34582202
>>34582208
>wah wah wah muh laws! t-the chaos! I want an all out civil/race war against all the shitskins and commies but I get butthurt at some libruls breaking some windows!

>>34581685

Oh, they most certainly would. I really don't know whether or not you're kidding, but yes, they would most likely get rid of any NEETs and other degenerate supporters as well.

Did you know that back when Russia succumbed to communism, one of the things they did was take away the rights of those that were gay? They actually once used the gays as a way to gain support, but as soon as they immediately gained power they did away with them when they held no more use for them.

>>34581580
You haven't hung out with atheists then. Atheistic liberals do not like Muslims. I'm pretty sure most of the useful idiots throwing the bricks are agnostics.

>he cares about the country
normies get the fuck out

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>>34582178
Wait, are you still trying to claim Milo is a facist? You have zero evidence. Seriously, source your claim. Give some evidence. If he's such a facist, surely you have proof.
>>34582247
Again, give some proof. You're just trolling, you have zero evidence for any of your claims. This is worse than Buzzfeed.

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>>34582247
wow. pic related.

oregano

>>34581694
Argumentum ad Baculum: The default argument of those who are both ignorant and strongly opinionated.

>>34582247
>sending illegal immigrants back to their home country like most other presidents is literally gassing an entire race
gud one anon,

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This is what the Mayor of Berkeley has to say about it.

>>34581245

I don't agree with Milo, but I believe he is a needed force. He exposes the campus left's intolerance for views that deviate from their own and the stifling political correctness they've embraced. I don't even think he agrees with some of the stuff he says or his supporters, just his adversarial positions that bring the the protests against him.

Little does the left know if they were to ignore him and let him speak in peace, he would fade into obscurity. Their protests are what fuel his relevancy.

I support him from that position, since he provides needed ideological diversity and tolerance to college campuses. Better than outright scumbags like Cuck C Johnson who exist to the detriment of the world.

>>34582333
Disgraceful. He's an embarrassment.

>>34582333
You know, liberals are right. California really should secede from the union
>republicans will win every election as the democrats will no longer get an automatic 55 point advantage from california

Since when this place became a rightist echo chamber? The fuck? Disgusting. Go to your containment board, shitposters.

>>34582341
This is the thing about it that's almost sad. It's not like Milo is some kind of intellectual. He isn't saying anything that's very novel or interesting. He's just a shameless profiteer that's realized he can ride this insanity all the way to the bank. And these people just play right into his hands.

You're absolutely right, without this kind of stupid stuff he'd fade into obscurity.

>>34581471
>These people are a very small minority

Suicide bombers are also a small minority but they still have a big impact on american society

>>34581245
The war is coming

Make sure your fire pits are ready

>>34582333
>Bigotry means "intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself."
The protesters silenced Milo solely for holding different opinions. The protesters are the ACTUAL bigots, not Milo. How could the mayor be so massively delusional?

>>34582278
That picture is funny as fuck, bro

>>34582061
The Boston Tea Party was unethical. They should have stolen the tea and distributed it to the poor or sold the tea on the black market to fund the revolutionary effort.

Waste of resources is usually unethical. Indeed, one common metric used in ethics, some would say the ultimate metric, is cost-benefit analysis. Cost-benefit analysis is basically an evaluation of whether a decision was an efficient allocation of resources.

>>34582333
He's right. Hate speech isn't free speech. Deal with you edgy aut-right dipshits.

>>34582384
I'm not /pol/. I just don't like seeing my country get trashed by literal domestic terrorists.

>>34582333
What a stupid fuck

>>34582406
Have you even read the constitution? I will gladly lend you my copy.

>>34582406
What kind of speech is the first amendment supposed to protect, exactly? The kind that we all agree with and love to hear?

Lol the blonde girl Kayla that POL is obsessed with got pepper sprayed by a man

So tolerant. Women's rights YES! hurting women is mad unless their opinions are different in which case it's ok lol

>>34582421
>hiding behind the constitution
This logical fallacy has a name but I don't know it.

>>34582435
The kind of speech that isn't genocidal, anti-social autismal horseshit.

>>34582439
>Lol the blonde girl Kayla that POL is obsessed with got pepper sprayed by a man
Seriously?

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>>34582384
>rightist echo chamber
The hilarious thing is, if you voiced an actual argument, it would no longer be an echo chamber. But you'd rather complain instead. And of course, falsely accuse us of being /pol/.

Because no liberal argument is complete without a baseless character attack with zero supporting evidence.

I want to chill on a rooftop and take potshots at the crowd with a 50 bmg

Why do /pol/tards always blame muh libruls? I consider myself pretty liberal politically but I'm not some tolerance-crazed nutjob who loves everyone and tries to silence opposition. There's an entire spectrum behind liberalism.

>>34582404
That's ridiculous. Tea is a luxury good. The poor have no real use for it, it will not feed them or keep the clothed or sheltered. And selling it on the blackmarket? We are talking about TONS of tea. Whole shipfulls. Where will they keep it? Who will purchase the hundreds of tons of tea? Who will take on the logistics of distributing that tea? A revolutionary force cannot waste it's time with this. They must strike their oppressors quickly and decisively.

>>34582457
Yeah go to POL and check. Big thread there about it. Webm included in a reply newer the beginning.

Sorry for my shitty writing. On my phone and walking to work.

>>34582461
Sounds pretty comfy. Like an old zombie movie. In every way I can think of.

>>34582462
because the higher up liberals aren't denouncing rioters, and in some case, supporting them. I like most liberals I know, they're level headed and even people. It's the crazy ones that speak the loudest though and it really shows.

>>34582462
That's a valid concern, by "liberals" most of us mean "regressive liberals". You'd fall into "classical liberal" category which I don't think anyone here has a problem with.

>>34582384
4chan is a counter culture you fag go to Leddit

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>>34582455
I am just quoting one of the greatest intellectuals of our time who truly stumped trump, friend :)

>>34581245
We will eliminate them brother

Just be patient. All they do is continue to show all of us that they are the real FACISTS.. Its only a matter of time. The next REAL Hitler is on the way. He comes hailing from generation z. I am calling it now.

Liberal faggots, the right is aware of who you are and what you believe. When in war, you never say too much and reveal your limitations to your enemy.

You have done this FAR too many times.

Liberals have already lost, but they are so disgraceful they have to go down kicking and screaming first, just so we can all hear their suffering and bitching some more because that is all they do

>>34582464
the answer is pirates, pretty simple.

>>34582462
Pretty convenient for you that your spectrum is full of people who will use violence to further your agenda, huh?

>>34582500
>one of the greatest intellectuals
Take a rope and end yourself

>>34581638
They dont exactly denounce what the violent ones do, in fact if you ask any leftist what they think of Tupacs mother they will say she is a hero.

Btw she is a literal copkiller

>>34582524
Hate speech! Hate speech! I'm being oppressed!

>>34582229
A regular protest would be one that was not violent, so no. I agree that the conservatives in this country are more peaceful than the liberals, except for radical Muslim jihadists. I used to think otherwise. I clarify that I am from a conservative rural area and have never agreed with this "muh Nazis" caricature of the American right.

Silly me for thinking that my fellow Millennial liberals remembered the "peace and love" and "give peace a chance" mantras of the 1960's. We are supposed to be classic, weed-smoking, tie-dye hippies, not a bunch of fucking Maoist militants. We do not want a Red October or a Great Leap Forward here. We should not give up on peace so easily.

I make an exception here for the ISIS militants, of course, who must be slaughtered.to the last man.

>>34582524
Pretty sure this anon>>34582500
is just memeing the shit out of you right now tbqh senpai

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>>34582512
I don't want Hitler. I just want everybody to be friends.

>>34582455
This is either bait or so stupid that I can't tell it from bait, but for some reason I'm still going to give it a serious response. Not sure what that says about me.

You can't stop speech. Absent the state from 1984 people will always be able to find some way to share the views that they want to share, even if we outlaw "hate speech".

Your ban on speech won't eliminate it. It will just force it underground where it will fester and spread and where the people that adhere to it will develop a vicious bunker mentality. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. Abhorent views need to be in the open. Where we can see them and where we can prove them wrong. If you are confident in your beliefs then you have zero to fear from someone saying something that you disagree with. If you are open to the fact that your beliefs may be wrong and you have the confidence to put everything you believe in to the test or reason then you have zero to fear from someone saying something that you disagree with.

>>34582512
Liberals are just the new niggers

Liberals are niggers

Now it all makes sense to me.. thanks for the clarification anon

>>34582479
This is true too. Reminds me of the election all over again. Bernie and Hillary would always talk about how Trump inspires violence and how the supporters were so violent, but in a majority of the cases it was always liberals assaulting Trump supporters. They denounced Trump and I think Bernie even demanded an apology or some shit. Funny thing too is that one Democrat bitch was caught on camera saying how she helped the shutdown of Trump's Chicago rally.

>>34582512
>Facts have a Liberal-bias head ass

>>34582548
It's the only reply I made to him actually, troll or not he should end himself anyway

>>34582561
It's one thing to stand out against something in a constructive and peaceful way

It is an entirely other thing to do the exact opposite of what you preach and be completely unaware of it.. Liberals are such subverted, inept, and brainwashed individuals that they can't even see the damage they are inflicting into our nation and our culture.. They just virtue signal to their deaths. That is all it is but at the same time being completely unaware of vastly destructive their stupidity is

We just need to put them down already

>>34582514
hahaha, touche.

Still, in a modern sense, property destruction is necessary in revolution because property owners are the very people the masses must overthrow. And I'm talking about private property, not personal property.

>>34582561
>Abhorent views need to be in the open
Like evul soshulism, dem queer-o-sexual rights, nigger issues, and spic issues and dem ragheads too?

They dun need to be out in da open so we can silence 'em cleetus.

>If you are open to the fact that your beliefs may be wrong and you have the confidence to put everything you believe in to the test or reason then you have zero to fear from someone saying something that you disagree with.
This is exactly what the aut-right DOESN'T do. You people pat each other on the back online. That's it.

Then whine about muh opression when somebody (rightfully disagrees with your nazi shit.

>>34582578
>Liberals assaulted the right first so this excuses Trump saying "If you assault someone and you support me, I'll bail you out of jail"
You fucking retard, I would attack first too if I felt threatened by Trump supporters who had money on their side

>>34582586
>quote from stephen colbert
>stephen colbert literally declared that donald trump will never be president
>facts
>liberal bias
lol

>>34582617
Do you have any counter argument to what I said? Is my point incorrect?

>>34582560
The best oppress the rest or the rest oppress the best.. can't have it both ways dude.

Fucking Hamilton knew this as well as all the other founding fathers of this nation. In order to get our culture OUR CULTURE back, you know the people responsible for all the things you have today, we need to strike back with violence and quickly.. there is no other way

What have we learned under Obama? That as soon as we give those fucking monkeys and self hating white people an opportunity to express themselves and integrate into our society's they take that and spit it back in our faces and try to destroy the country

Fuck them.. they all need to be gassed.. No two ways about it

>>34582617

Last time I checked, trump is in the white house, congress is republican, the military is filled with conservatives.

Your time is coming kid.

>>34582624
You're the retard for not even using the actual quote or understanding the context.

>>34582586
I didn't even understand this at all until the other anon pointed this out

You suck fucking dick dude lol

>>34582630
>He thinks that's a Stephen Colbert quote
It's from Robert Corddry

>>34582247
Straw man fallacy. Appeal to emotion fallacy. Ad hominem fallacy. Argumentum ex culo fallacy. Tu quoque fallacy.

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Just a heads up to all you alt right nazis- A beige future is upon us!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb55teb1gJ0

"United we stand, divided we fall."

I wonder who will be the modern day Nero(s), fiddling while Rome burns...

>>34582644
Something I also need to add is this is the "land of opportunity" last time I checked. White people actually gave fucking niggers a chance and what do they do? Spit it back in our faces and continue doing fucking nigger bullshit instead of taking advantage of affirmative action, student loans, and other resources to propel them into society so they could open businesses in their neighborhoods carve out their own identity

But instead they continue with this victim complex bullshit.. Liberals are even worse because they believe that they are responsible for how shitty niggers have it, and the funny thing is they are, but not in the way they would expect.

All dumb people just need to be gassed. End of story

>>34582654
Under no context is that okay, you moron, it's still inciting violence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzYv5foyAS8

So is fascist the new buzzword for 2017? People are throwing this word around so much it's gonna lose all meaning soon.

>>34582724
Sadly already has.

>>34582409
>literal domestic terrorists
I was at the event

The actions of the few do not represent the actions of the 99.9% of people who were calm and peaceful

Nothing is being trashed, the windows of the amazon student store were broken by some small group of dipshits, that's pretty much all

Here's the thing - no, nobody is infringing on your right to free speech, conservatives. But there is a time and a place for everything.

If a black supremacist went to the middle of an aryan nation rally, I don't think he should have any expectation of safety. That right there is a hostile environment.

If some idiot wearing a MAGA hat goes into the center of this protest and starts screaming the 14/88, I don't think he has any expectation of safety. The two people who were hurt did dumb shit like that, wear MAGA hats into the middle of this heavily liberal event, put a MAGA hat on the light, etc

These people both know this. Conservatives go to these events purely to incite this violence - perhaps they don't intentionally want to be a victim, perhaps they think people will act more civilly, who knows. Either way, this is NOT the place for free speech. The middle of a protest where people are screaming FUCK DONALD TRUMP is NOT the place to wear a MAGA hat. A movie theater is not the place to scream FIRE.

You may say, this was supposed to be a conservative leaning event, Milo had a right to speak in MLK. And that's true, anyone who is invited by any club at Berkeley does have a legal right to speak.

But just like how someone could wear a MAGA hat into the center of this rally, perhaps we shoudn't be asking if Milo could come to the school, but whether he should... Milo intentionally goes to these heavily liberal areas purely to cause these kinds of things. He loves these protests.

>>34582665
and what is your opinion on these events then anon? Surely you wouldn't take the obviously ad hominem position that these protests represent liberal views?

>>34582660
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Stephen_Colbert
>"I know there are some polls out there saying this man has a 32% approval rating. But guys like us, we don't pay attention to the polls. We know that polls are just a collection of statistics that reflect what people are thinking in "reality." And reality has a well-known liberal bias."

Colbert said it as well. So, yes. Clearly Hillary won the whitehouse, is that right? After all, the left was ardently proclaiming there was no way Hillary could have lost to orange meme man, or perhaps, that Trump was never going to secure the republican nomination, or that he was going to drop out after a few months of running? Man, feels great that our tolerant first female president has instituted no muslim bans unlike another former candidate I could name! I mean, the liberal polls tell all! They showed that Trump was losing bigly!

>>34582386
The profit motive can encourage virtuous action. Capitalism works because the profit motive usually encourages virtuous action. So, your assertion that seeking profit implies hypocrisy or dishonesty is not valid. We should financially reward brilliant authors and orators. They enrich our culture.

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Remember in 2008 when /b/ was liberal and gay for Obama?

I do.

Fuck, you guys are hypocrites.

>>34582745
Colbert said "...Reality has a liberal-bias"

>>34582740
>no, nobody is infringing on your right to free speech, conservatives
except that is literally what happened you retard

>>34582762
Are facts not reality?

>>34582740
Yeah, but that's where he needs to speak because if he went anywhere else it would be pointless

Trump is already president. If you actually want to do something constructive, how about freeing all the slaves that have been made under the Obama administration

>>34582756
We are a counter culture you cocksucker

>>34582740
>Milo intentionally goes to these heavily liberal areas purely to cause these kinds of things. He loves these protests.
Maybe so, but he was scheduled to speak, and the left wouldn't let him. I think that's why he does it. Every time he gets shut down, it shows the world just how out of hand the left has gotten.

Also this >>34582764

>>34582762
Yupper doodle

>>34582745
Also, he was being sarcastic. It fits when the Alt-right and Conservatives deny the reality of facts presented to them through unbiased study.

>>34582333
>Jesse Arreguin
That name sounds a little bit... non-white
just saying

>>34582773
Someone gas this kid please

>muh 14/88

>>34582798
Left literally does the same thing. Welcome to the political realm, my dude

>>34582773
Not to the right, apparently, who deny facts when presented with them
IE: Man-made Climate change or climate change in general

>>34582798
>Conservatives denying facts
>The left actually believes this

Isn't the entire liberal agenda a bunch of well to do white people virtue signaling at the expense of the rest of the country against all rational thought?

Do you even know what I just said?

>>34582753
The profit motive can encourage vicious action as well as virtuous action.

I'm not imputing a moral judgement just because Milo wants to make money. There's nothing wrong with that. I just think he tries to be as outrageous as possible and get the most attention as possible because that makes the most money possible. I'm not saying that isn't his right or that he has some obligation to do something else. I just personally wish that he would take a more nuanced and interesting approach to challenging the left wing hegemony on college campuses. I'd love for him to mount a serious intellectual criticism of the SJW zeitgeist, but I haven't seen that from him. He has a huge audience and I think he'd rather keep that audience huge than say something that was truly challenging.

>>34582824
Not when it's Scientific fucking fact, you imbecile, most left leaning people don't deny a the Scientific process and knows it's unbiased research.

>>34582825
Its not climate change.. first of all. It is called global warming. Do you know why they call it global warming. I honestly want to know if you have any idea what it actually means. I am not talking about fabricated science either.. Like from a PC perspective. What does global warming actually mean.

I am going to tell you after you answer but this is a perfect example of how the left actually operates.. watch now everyone.

Your up faggot

>>34582855
>Not when it's Scientific fucking fact, you imbecile
Yes, I'm sure there are no biological differences between the sexes.

>>34582855
Do you think there's any genetic component to racial iq differences, anon?

>>34582855
Global warming is man made but there is even more interesting piece to it.. so lets just calm down faggot and tell me what you think it is.

Cuz you are literally about to get raped. Its is going to be fun too

>>34582828
A bunch of fucking buzzwords, you cuck, that's what you just said.
>Politicians are the entire left
>SJWs are the entire left
Most right-wingers deny literal Scientific fact whether fueled by their belief in god or their fucking paranoia

>>34582873
I don't like SJWs either. Fuck them

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>>34582876
After all, anon we are one universal race. It's literally impossible for different traits to develop in different environments over time you racist fascist.

>>34582886
No actually they don't, I am not using buzzwords. You are. Global warming (climate change) is one of them.

Global warming is a PC way of saying there are too many people. Do you know what the Earth's carrying capacity is? Why there is this push for research on Mars?

Do you think, I also want to ask you that instead of deferring to your "feelings" do you actually rationally think about anything.. like anything at all?

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>>34581707
>fails to understand that you cannot arrest almost half the country who agrees with each other
>fails to understand that by allowing or even agreeing with libtard violence/protests, contributes to the destruction
>because all of them haven't been arrested or reported in the news means it's automatically an extreme radical minority
This is a worldwide problem, not just in America. There are millions and millions of these people everywhere. They are teachers, students, peers, coworkers, and even family.
Sure maybe specific places get the spotlight at a certain time but it is difficult to shift large masses from one place to the other conveniently and by no severe resistance (other than trying to be the "peaceful" rational side" only allows them to continue the riot and depreciation. We literally appease them every day. They are quite LITERALLY "what if Nazis were less composed and far more unintelligent and belligerent."

They project what they fear themselves to be onto others, if others do it then they can too, their mentality.

A large population of the world is very sick and confused.

>>34582876
Show me some peer-reviewed studies and I'll be inclined to agree with you otherwise intelligence has nothing to do with race.

>>34582873
>Yes, I'm sure there are no biological differences between the sexes.
why do you attribute this to liberals?

I'm confused, what do you even mean by this post?

>>34582886
>everyone on the right is the religious right
>leaving classic liberals out of it
h-hidoi

>>34582906
..Yes you are right. Charles Darwin was completely wrong

Get the fuck off my board you little liar. We are not all one race. Fuck dude the kikes got to these kids too soon..

We need Hitler to rise up from generation z and fast.

>>34582844
He really is more of a troll than an actual social commentator, I don't think he's an idiot though. I started to respect him more after I saw the genuine passion in this clip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWC_y1cE1_4

>>34582404
"Tea was a luxury good [at the time.]"
False. Tea was expensive, but it was not unusual for commoners to enjoy it from time to time.
"The poor have no use for tea."
False. Tea contains caffeine, which we all know is very helpful for hard-working poor people.
"The revolutionary force did not have the logistical ability to store several ship-loads of tea and sell it on the black market."
False. The American revolutionary force had to be fed and armed, which required large-scale logistical capacity. Sailing ships were tiny back then, so you are probably over-estimating the amount of tea. A ton of bagged product is not as bulky or difficult to move as you think it is. A few tons can easily be stored in any given small house if necessary. There were plenty of customers, specifically, the colonists who were routinely buying and drinking the stuff.

Now, there are good counterarguments against my claim, but these are not it. The action I propose probably would have involved more risk to life and limb than the Boston Tea Party. Depending on the strength of the local British garrison, that risk might have been to great to attempt anything more than a comparatively simple sabotage operation.

>>34582914
Yes, I rationally think about these things, that's why I take ALL factors into consideration. Instead of nitpicking some that fit your fucking point of view, like a creationist fucking does. Kill yourself

>>34582977
I am not a creationist at all. I do not believe humans are the center of the universe. Now you are just making shit up..

Well done.

>This is the left everyone

>>34582949
>Alt-right doesn't deny climate change because of paranoia
Not all of them but a good number of them are conspiracy theorists too, not exactly the rational type.

>>34582946
Because they literally argue that men and women are entirely equal and that there's no differences in strength

>>34582992
But a creationist does what you do so I made the metaphor clear, I never said you were a creationist

>>34582406
Hate speech is protected speech. This is because "hate" is difficult to define unambiguously. Also, hate is sometimes necessary. There are very few criminal types of speech in this country. These include assault (threats), incitement to violence, fraud, espionage, slander, perjury, and treason (which could be done via speech).

>>34582997
Climate change is not the proper word. It is global warming, climate is cyclical.. there are theories that actually back this as well.. you know REAL SCIENCE, not faggot self hating white people science

Also Global Warming is entirely man made. See when I asked you if you think rationally about anything you failed to read between the lines. What I meant by man made was the more people on Earth the more heat and light is reflected back from higher CO2 levels.

See that's what rational thought ACTUALLY looks like. Not throwing a fit and making shit up.

>>34583021
>Implying strength matters in societal matters

>>34582997
Ok but alt right are a screaming minority

would have been easier to just point to the religious right and even they don't represent all of the right wing voters in the us.

>>34583026
That was kind of a lousy metaphor

>>34582946
from what i gather, it is a scientific fact that there are two genders. thats just how biology is, yet many on the left refuse to accept that and claim that there are many genders, referring to feelings and shit like that as a basis of confirmation. just like the people on the right who cite the bible or their belief in a god as proof that something like climate change isnt a proven fact.

follow?

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>>34583044
They do. There's a good reason there are so few females in the military. It's because they have really terrible upper body strength, which is biological. It's also the reason women choose shitty service desk jobs that pay nothing

>>34583039
I did say not all right wingers deny climate change, because that's the rational inference. Of course the more people on Earth the more polluted it gets. You made it seem like overpopulation was THE ONLY factor in climate change.

>>34583026
I know you are going to still say I am wrong when this is all completely verifiable.. so go ahead. Make something else up to continue this transparent narrative you keep shitting up this board with

>>34583093
Ok, fair enough

Good, good.. there is still hope.

>>34583093
Global warming dude.. not "climate change' that's a completely different topic

>>34582828
>muh liberal virtual signalling

compared to conservatives, who talk about limiting government spending, then spend trillions of dollars invading the middle east

compared to conservatives, who talk about wanting small government that doesn't interfere with the lives of citizens, then pass the patriot act

compared to conservatives, who talk about supporting our troops, then block all legislation that involves helping the troops in any form

compared to conservatives, who claim that the government can't do anything right, right after they got done with their doctor appointment that was paid for by medicare then drive to the bank using a car they bought using money they earned from their union job to deposit their check from social security

>>34583081
I don't care about what SJWs feminists want, bro. I'm talking about civilization

>>34583129
Global warming IS climate change, so is Global cooling and weather patterns. Why the fuck do you care what it's called?

>>34583021
>they
who is they?
I've never met these people.

>>34583063
>many on the left
you admit in the same post that there are bible belt idiots on the right too.

Bringing these people up is a waste of time - when talking about politics we should strive towards understanding the arguments made by the people at the "top" - rational discussion which is driven from evidence and data - rather than the idiots at the bottom of society who fling shit at each other

We can go back and forth all day drawing on stereotypes but it's not a fruitful activity. You cannot debase the existence of transgender people simply by saying there is two genders.

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>antifa
>run around lighting trashcans on fire
>when in groups of +20, one or two might get enough courage to sucker punch someone

the left are literal niggers

>>34582455
Nope, argument from authority is totally valid when discussing law. This is because discussion of law is literally discussing what an agreed-upon authority required or disallowed. You are correct that genocidal speech would usually not be protected, since this would be incitement to violence. However, incitement charges are usually only brought if violence actually occurs. Also "anti-social, autismal horseshit" is protected speech.

Incitement laws do not prevent calling for legal violence such as advocating for a particular response to a matter in criminal justice or warfare. Genocide is among the legal actions available to the government in extreme circumstances, such as nuclear bombardment as part of the mutually-assured destruction doctrine. Also, most of the males of ISIS will be genocided shortly. Our imminent destruction of ISIS might technically be genocide since our intention is to wipe out what is claimed to be a state and a culture.

>compared to conservatives, who talk about limiting government spending, then spend trillions of dollars invading the middle east.

You do realize Obama still has troops in the middle east and doubled the national debt in 4 terms against Bush

>compared to conservatives, who talk about wanting small government that doesn't interfere with the lives of citizens, then pass the patriot act

Do you even know what 9/11 is?

>compared to conservatives, who talk about supporting our troops, then block all legislation that involves helping the troops in any form

This isn't even remotely accurate so I am not even going to indulge you on this one. The entire military is conservative; most of it anyway, and Democraps have been in power for the last 8 years.. Nullified argument


>compared to conservatives, who claim that the government can't do anything right, right after they got done with their doctor appointment that was paid for by medicare then drive to the bank using a car they bought using money they earned from their union job to deposit their check from social security

Try again on this one

>>34582491
Good point. Alex Jones calls himself a classical liberal. Since he is a libertarian, that is an accurate claim. Libertarians are part of the liberal spectrum, not the conservative spectrum. Or perhaps both. They do not seem to be mushy moderates though.

>>34583208
Forgot to tag you.. this is for you Schlomo >>34583208

Do you think Old people find it sad or funny that they've seen history repeat so many times

>>34583208
Yes, because [spoiler[Bush did 9/11[/spoiler]

>>34583131
This is for you schlomo >>34583208

>>34582500
This is the argument from authority fallacy, fyi.

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>>34583233
Sometimes I hope I never find out.

>>34583241
..Seriously man?

Aren't we supposed to be the ones wearing tin foil hats? You don't trust the kikes either do ya boy DO YA??

>>34582512
Hitler 2.0 already came and went. Her name is Hillary Clinton. She lost.

>>34583233
I've found old people insulted that people have compared Trump to the man who was responsible for the death of multiple family members. I myself am insulted although I am not old, but I don't speak up about it.

>>34582518
Violence does not further our agenda, so no, it is not convenient.

>>34583269
No, not seriously, I was being facetious

>>34583269
>He unironically trust the Jews
Good goy

>>34581245
I'm so conflicted with this cunt. He makes all these great points, blasts SJW, liberals and feminists left, right and centre all day without a care in the world.

But he's such a huge fucking kike faggot.

Also him fat shaming that guy in the gym made me lose a ton of respect for him even though he said it is up to the well functioning and adept people to help those that aren't.

>>34583280
I know a cute Jewish girl. We've made fun of people who think Trump is the next Hitler together. I love her very much. I feel like I need to stop her from going to college.

>>34583193
>Our imminent destruction of ISIS might technically be genocide since our intention is to wipe out what is claimed to be a state and a culture
It's crazy, but I've never thought about it in this light.

>>34583299
Why? You afraid she's gonna ride the cock carousel there?

>>34582617
This is the strawman fallacy again. You should use more measured language and state what you are arguing against clearly if you want to be taken seriously.

>>34583292
>public figures are stopped from saying things you dislike
>average people are scared of opposing you publicly letting you lunatics spread your retardation all over mainstream culture
>support for candidates you dislike is vandalized/stolen
yeah clearly not beneficial you sack of shit

>>34583325
No, I just want to protect her from being surrounded by this leftist nonsense for four years.

>>34583370
>College is leftist
How is it leftist, bro? How? She could always not make friends and ignore people

>>34583299
That made me smile.
>>34583370
She will certainly be surrounded by nonsense, that is for sure.

Huh. A retard getting attacked by more retards. Facisinating.

>>34583277
This is actually true, but we need to up and comer speed smoking radical, not the salty feminist and muh vagina

>muh 14/88 brother

>>34582644
You are welcome to attempt this. You might even avoid death by a thousand cuts for a little while. Cuts inflicted by bullets, that is. The actual patriots in this country believe that we ought to steer our society through open discussion in the marketplace of ideas, democracy, the rule of law, and the peaceful transition of power. We believe that using violence to advance ideas is something that third-world countries do, or something that we do to ISIS.

The ISIS military is far past the point where mercy is acceptable. We will not be killing them to teach them our ideas. We will be killing them as a lesson to other peoples.

>>34583296

Good goy, good goy see >>34583296
This is unironically trusting the jews

But I did enjoy the meme

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>>34583370
Why are you so scared of being exposed to alternative viewpoints?

Maybe you should think critically about your political opinions as well. Or do you think every liberal is just an idiot who spouts nonsense?

There are people in the world who say ridiculous things. Perhaps you should learn to tune these people out instead of fixating on them.

you know all this stuff about
>im le being opressed
Thats a meme, and the only reason you see that stuff like that is because you surround yourself in it, you drown you self in it.

how offend to you actually go into the real world and the random person you walk by says they oppressed you? all the people you cross everyday

I honestly believe people like radical feminsts and safe space liberals are actually so few and far between yet you just focus on them so much or associate things you dont like to be that.

I honestly dont understand how any of you can get so so so angry because someone 1000s of miles or more away from you might of said they were a toaster or something,

>>34583440
Yeah I was sperging out with my plate of spaghetti a bit trying to trigger libcuks.. my discussions get more poignant as the thread decreases from that point

>You are welcome to continue reading my discourse
>muh 14/88, haven't bothered looking up those numbers but I still use them to fit in

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>liberals are breaking things!
I'm not a liberal and I think the protests are stupid, but why are people complaining about this? A Trump-supporter shot up a mosque. At the UW protest a Trump-supporter shot a protestor after he got his hat stolen and Milo wouldn't answer him on facebook. People only care about "polite protests" and etc. when it lets them complain about the other side.

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>>34583455
>Why are you so scared of being exposed to alternative viewpoints?
I know what can happen.

>>34583391
This was for this post >>34583444
why do I keep fucking this up

>>34582952
>chimping out over sarcasm

The picture was related, nigger

>>34582740
I do not believe that these events represent liberal views, because I believe that they result from paid agitators in the employ of George Soros or his network of non-governmental organizations. I also believe that at least some of the protesters are paid to inflate various crowds and are bussed from event to event.

>>34583477
You need to just look at this>>34583369

>>34583477
>A Trump-supporter shot up a mosque.
A single Trump supporter.

>At the UW protest a Trump-supporter shot a protestor after he got his hat stolen and Milo wouldn't answer him on facebook.
Again, one person.

This is an enormous mob.

>>34583496
MY SPAGHETTI IS GOING EVERYWHERE LADS WEEEWWW THIS IS ALL I CAN DO IS WEW LAD-Y my way out of this situation

>>34583480
i don't know what is happening in that picture but i assure you that if she was into slam poetry to begin with, she didn't suddenly become a liberal SJW cuck or whatever, she was always that person.

>>34583510
how many people did they kill then?

>>34583480
how and why does this even bother you?

>>34583510
>This is an enormous mob.
an enormous mob it was, that's for sure
of peaceful people dancing to music and holding signs

the people who committed violence were one or two idiots who were pulled back immediately by that big mob

This is now a /pol/ is just one person thread

>>34583534
She looked so cute and innocent. No longer.

>>34582756
Obama ran for president under false pretenses. He created ISIS in the name of ending terrorism. Naturally, we are furious at the Democrat party for deceptively using us to bring about great evil. So, we are burning the Democrat party to the ground. We are also burning the Republican party as we know it to the ground while we're at it via God-Emperor President Trump.

>>34583552
>tfw right wing and don't even browse /pol/
>honestly think they're a bunch of retarded logically inconsistent hypocrites
>still told to go back to /pol/ when I espouse an opinion that;s right wing

>>34583554
As long as your little girlfriend doesn't let emotion drive her logic, she'll be unscathed by the feminist propaganda

>>34582825
I prefer the party that apparently wants global warming to the party that apparently wants global thermonuclear war. We can fix global warming through various geoengineering methods if necessary.

>>34583554
I mean i dont really think so.

>>34583581
I know that. She's smart, I trust her. It just seems like a waste of time for a really smart person to waste away in that system for four years.

>>34583619
Did you drop out or something?

>>34581541

There was little violence at the women's march a few weeks ago. That can be considered a liberal protest, yet they kept it mostly peaceful.
Point is that while this type of violence in unacceptable, its clearly being committed by an extremist section of liberals. Otherwise, those women's marches would have been bloodbaths.

>baww liberals are putting windows through why are they so violent
>last conservative president went to war

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>m-muh original text

>>34583629
Trump hates bush and the Iraq war, though.
Really, who doesn't hate George Bush

>>34583628
This. Wasn't that protest one of (or the) largest protest in American history, numerically?

>>34582952
We are all one species. Having good genetic variability in a species spread through several varieties adapted to different environments is helpful for our survival. It makes it less likely that any single pathogen or change in environmental conditions will harm the entire species at once.

>>34583627
I haven't gone actually. It's not for me. I have a job and it's enough for me right now. She wants to study, and I want her to do what she wants to do. I guess I'm a little insecure about not going to college. I don't know. Maybe I'll take some classes eventually.

At least I don't get lectured about safe spaces.

>>34583687
Is this a thinly veiled 'refutation' of the idea that climate change is going to kill the entire species? Changes in environment is killing off other animals left and right, whether there will survive enough to keep their species going is the question

>>34583021
This is a good point. Sexual dimorphism is observed in many animal species. Thanks to modern conveniences, these differences are no longer relevant in most practical circumstances except for in sports and in war. So, I for one support gender equality except where it can be demonstrated that one gender has an undeniable and universal advantage as is the case in warfare.

Not literally everyone can fight on the front lines anyway. A war effort requires many more people working to supply the troops than people fighting on the front. Women were essential to the Allied war efforts in both world wars. We could not have won these wars without their dedicated service to industry on the home front. Somebody absolutely has to supply and otherwise support the troops, say in medical service, and women are perfectly suited for those particular roles.

>>34583570
I used to its just the same shit over and over again. It just gets tiring.

There are some actually smart people on there, but just reading political discourse kills my soul its so fucking repetitive and leads nowhere so now I brose /r9k/ because /r9k/ and /pol/ share a 60% user base and I have serious emotional problems

>>34583063
The claim is more accurately that sex is biological, but that gender is a societal construct. Many aspects of gender-normative behavior are, in fact, not biological but cultural in origin. A few are not. Clothing designed for women does not fit or look good on men, for example. This fact is a result of proper design with regards to the substrate, not bigotry. Fashionable transvestites such as Eddie Izzard and David Bowie understand this. So they wear flamboyant clothing and makeup that is feminine, and yet flattering to the male form.

Liberals make a very good point that, while one's sex is a biological fact of life, one's appropriate actions do not necessarily follow from this fact. Perhaps they go too far in claiming that the labels that we use for ourselves, say, man, woman, etc., are among these optional matters. Clear communication is important, and full transsexuality seems to confuse matters somewhat. This is a linguistic and cultural matter though, and I'm not sure that it is something that the law should involve itself in.

Myself, I quite like the Eddie Izzard approach of body-positivity in gender non-conformity, or, if you like, the transvestite or androgynous approach. He is accepting of his biological self, which seems healthier or less medically-risky than surgery or hormone therapy. He is flamboyant and feminine, but flatters his male form in his fashion choices instead of hiding it. This does not covertly challenge gender norms by hiding the biological sex. Rather, it acknowledges the biological sex while celebrating the feminine aesthetic, which boldly and directly challenges our somewhat-arbitrary gender taboos.

But, you know, do what pleases you. Modern medicine can change all sorts of things about you if want.

>>34583241
Whether or not Bush did 9/11, we should have been defending our major cities better. Don't the airports have radar? Why did they not scramble fighters hours before when the planes went off course? Why else do we pay for these expensive machines? Certainly it's not to watch the Blue Angels perform above our monster truck rallies.

The military knew that it was a hostage situation while the planes were in flight. We have the largest and best-equipped military on Earth. Whether or not it was a false-flag operation, that particular atrocity should not have been possible to carry out on American soil. Bush Jr. and the New York and DC national guard have no excuse for their failure in this matter.

>>34584210
you can only have so much foresight....
do you think you could stop every murder or something?
you can't

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>>34582560
I want everyone just to get out their feels and deal with their lives,instead my virtue signals/reaching.

>>34582061
>Destroying tea owned and imported to the united states by British aristocrats to later be sold with an unfair tax. Is the same as destroying Bob's family owned bakery because a faggot with right wing views was invited to your campus

>>34583369
"Public figures are stopped from saying X"
False. Public figures continue to be able to say whatever they like to a national audience. Violence against social activists draws additional attention to their words through increased news attention.

"Average people are scared by violence against saying X"
False. This is America. Average people here are emboldened to speak out when their ideas are violently oppressed.

"Support for candidates you dislike is vandalized/stolen"
False. Violence against a popular cause tends to increase charitable donations in support of it far in excess of the value of any property damage inflicted via sabotage. Also, any property so damaged might be insured, especially in the case of buildings or automobiles.

Why do you assume that I agree with these imbeciles anyway? Trump is a moderate libertarian as far as I can tell. Libertarians have more points of agreement with liberals than disagreement. Where I live at least, these groups get along famously.

Also, the Democrat party used our ideals as a Trojan horse to bring about great evil. Trump is destroying the Democrat traitors in government and also any traitors who happen to be Republican. You know, all those nice people who sold us peace and delivered war? Those people who sold us a War on Terror and then created ISIS? Good riddance to the slimy bastards. I hope that they all rot in jail.

>>34582699
In what world is inciting violence worse than violence itself?
There is something wrong with the way you perceive value.

>>34584443
>Throwing tomatoes is violence
It's a way to express disgust, you don't have to hit anyone, this isn't Looney Tunes

>>34584475
And how many protesters were assaulted compared to Trump supporters? Who caused rallies to be shut down?

>>34584431
>False. This is America. Average people here are emboldened to speak out when their ideas are violently oppressed.
Bullshit. Average people don't want to deal with liberals calling their work and trying to get them fired or getting attacked in the street.

>False. Violence against a popular cause tends to increase charitable donations in support of it far in excess of the value of any property damage inflicted via sabotage.
Completely missing the point. People are social animals and more likely to support someone if others are supporting them. Liberals constantly did shit like steal trump signs in an attempt to influence the election.

>>34584549
But no candidate actually said "You should do this, I implore you"

>>34583753
We can fix global warming at any time via a transition to nuclear power and carbon sequestration through oceanic iron fertilization. The plankton would die when the excess bottleneck nutrient, iron, runs out, and would store itself for millennia in the abyss. We can do it over a subduction fault if we want to eventually produce some oil for our spacefaring cyborg descendants. The tree-huggers are too paranoid about unlikely worst-case scenarios to recognize that there are no perfect or risk-free solutions to this problem. We have to be willing to use methods that have significant drawbacks.

>>34584306
Which is why I explained why I thought that they had sufficient information to prevent the problem at the time. They knew about suicide bombers. They knew that some airplanes had been hijacked and were heading towards New York and DC. This was not a hard scenario to predict.

The possibility of using an airplane as a missile has been around for decades. Our military officers do war games including games involving unconventional tactics all the time. War gaming and drafting war plans are part of an officer's education. Shooting a civilian airplane out of the sky is like shooting fish in a barrel for our military. At some point a long time ago this possibility did occur to an officer in the military, and we did not prepare the relatively inexpensive and straightforward countermeasures.

>>34584604
I don't remember Clinton saying anything about the violence that was actually happening. Silence is just as bad. At least Bernie tried to say something but it fell on deaf ears.

>>34581402
>but I don't think that many people are
Almost the entirety of academia has been trying to normalize and intellectualize leftist violence for quite some time.

>>34581676
The peaceful protesters work to facilitate and justify violent actions by those of similar ideologies. Unless they're actively working to prevent this sort of thing, they're complicit in it.

>>34584690
>They knew about suicide bombers. They knew that some airplanes had been hijacked and were heading towards New York and DC. This was not a hard scenario to predict.

this is very wrong, to assume that they were aiming to crash into the twin towers and shoot it down before it does is nuts. That is a strong assumption. The possibility that everyone could be safe or at least that it might not be a terrorist attack was there as well.

>>34584692
Fuck Clinton, she's a cunt

And surprise, people are retarded. Your point?

>>34584762
People should stop acting retarded otherwise Trump will actually turn into a fascist with his response to violence

>>34584553
If you go to the subreddit /r/the_Donald, you will notice a consistent theme there of celebrating the fact that all of the SJWs' panicking has been counterproductive for them. I happen to agree. It is not difficult to understand the actual public relations effects of their moronic actions. It's like they are trying to self-destruct.

These riots and such are breathtakingly stupid, a litany of basic strategic errors of epic proportions. These people could not sell wood stoves to Eskimos. If they turned their marketing talents towards generating public sympathy in our country for radical Islamic terrorism, the public would rally to wipe the terrorists out with a grand military campaign about which historians will marvel in awe for centuries. Oh, wait, they did that, and that is exactly what is happening.

How can you not see this? Public displays in-person favoring Trump are suppressed in a few big cities. Everywhere else, people proudly wear MAGA hats and clink bottles of All-American Yuengling beer while sitting on the tailgates of their American-made Ford pickup trucks with their flag-adorned rear windows and bumper-stickered, you know, bumpers.

>>34582114
why is vince vaughn on the anti-globalist squad?

>>34581677
Communism is literally SJW: the ideology

>>34581402
Same deal as muslims. A minority of doers, but encouraged by a silent majority.
- officials and media covering up the violence
- billionaires funding the antifa groups
- normal people downplaying the violence, claiming it's only a minority...

>>34582178
Your speech infuriates me and I should be able to murder you if i met you, by your own logic.

>>34585762
billionaires are not funding antifa though

>>34582110
>le everyone who is right wing is an EBIL RAYCISS FASCIST meme

Youre either a nigger or a woman desu

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>>34581245
Extreme left or extreme right, both wind up fascist.

Will the sjw ever accept this?

>>34582333

Calexit when?

>>34583477
>A Trump-supporter shot up a mosque.
That guy also liked feminism pages.

Does that mean feminism is responsible?
#yesallmen

>>34585820
>I'm no fascist I just believe niggers and spics are lazy criminals, women shouldn't have a say in politics and we all look out to excell the white race

Civil War 2 when, Murricans?

>>34586118
To be fair, believing those things doesn't necessarily make someone a fascist.

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>>34584951
When that one broad started going on about how Hollywood is a persecuted minority and without immigrants we'd only have football and MMA (ignoring the fact the average skin color of the room was as white as it gets and those two sports are actually incredibly diverse) Vince was just groaning and sighing.

I think our generation just needs a giant world war, we have no common enemies to unite against like during the Cold War, so we turn all of our frustrations inwards and towards each other. I guarantee you if a WW3 involving China/Russia came about, you wouldn't see all these SJWs/alt-right faggots antagonizing each other daily.

>>34581580
>milo getting triggered as fuck

guess just being gay wasn't working out for him. Now he's trying to act like crowder.

>>34581245
I lived in Berkeley for a while, and it was nice in some ways, but it has serious problems with idealists and crazies.
We had some people march through the streets screaming black lives matter one time shortly before I left, they were screaming so loud you couldn't really focus on what you were doing even with noise cancelling headphones.

>>34586120
>Civil War 2 when, Murricans?

"War" implies a contest.

alt-right cucks would be wiped out on the 1st day. day of the rope when.

>>34584996
Identity politics =/= class politics

>>34581402
>Bolsheviks aren't destroying the country
>it's not like I support them
>but they are a small minority of the country
>they don't have much power
>they just happen to be extremely visible
>anyway Russia has always had a history of revolution

>>34586216
I was rankled as fuck when Streep said mixed martial arts were not arts