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Serious question, why are there so many male virgins when literally

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Serious question, why are there so many male virgins when literally everyone is getting laid?
Are they just shy, or seriously autistic?

No 80/20 rule retarded shit please.
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>>34508103
I'm seriously autistic
I rarely leave the house, don't have a job, don't have a drivers license, and spend a lot of my time posting here. pretty sure I also haven't talked to a female irl that wasn't a family member or cashier in the last ten years either. does that answer your question?
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I'm not a Chad. Why would any girl want me when she can pretty much delivery order a Chad on her phone to come over and fuck her?
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Because ugly people, such as myself, literally cannot get laid.
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I'm shy and austistic. I don't mind being a virgin.
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>>34508145
Become a wagecuck, save 100 and get a hooker.
Simple
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>>34508103
you should already know the answer to this question you fucking normie. Get out of our board RRREEEEEEEEE
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>>34508145
>I rarely leave the house
Maybe you should change that?
>>34508175
>I'm not a Chad.
Not all girls want Chad.

>>34508180
Some girls don't care about looks at all actually.
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Male competition is more aggressive, so it is easer to fall behind or drop out entirely.
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>>34508245
>Not all girls want Chad.

Then I must have awful luck to have not met one in my entire life.
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>>34508103
>why are there so many male virgins when literally everyone is getting laid?
this is a contradiction
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>>34508103
Because I legitimately don't give a shit about being a virgin? Why should I? It's not like if I fuck someone I'll immediately become a millionaire. Literally nothing would change. If I ever do get to the point of absolutely needing to get rid of it, then I'll find a hot brown chick somewhere and go at it.
Seriously. Stop being such fucking spergs over something as retarded as virginity.
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>>34508103
I'm saving myself for marriage. Granted, I'm way too ugly to have sex even if I wanted to.
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>>34508245
>Not all girls want Chad.
I don't care. My point still stands.

I offer nothing. There are people who are objective upgrades to me in any way.
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>>34508245
why should I change that? it's easier to just post "tfw no gf" threads. mummy says I have to get a job though because I've been a lazy bum too long.
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Combination insecure and think they're better than they are, so they won't settle for (or approach) what is realistically on "their level".
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>>34508103
I'm fat, lazy and not very smart.
Hey, at least I'm telling the truth.
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Girls don't like me. Duh.
/thread
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>>34508316
By "their level", I assume you mean "half as attractive", right? According to you, that girl is probably way out of my league, because she has the ability to put make-up on. I hate this world so much.
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I was bullied throughout elementary and middle school because I was fat. By highschool, I was completely unable to talk to people or make friends. I lost weight in highschool which led the bullying stopping but I remained a friendless loser. After highschool, I stopped being unable to talk to people but still can't make friends or form relationships. I also don't have any social media accounts and am have no sense of self worth. I don't try to make friends or get a girlfriend anymore because those people could be spending their time doing something more important or with people who are more interesting than me.
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>>34508268
Maybe you should put yourself out there and try instead of having such a defeatist attitude

>>34508289
>I offer nothing. There are people who are objective upgrades to me in any way.
There is someone for everyone so this isn't true.

>>34508316
You might be on to something.
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>>34508488
I don't mean (solely) physical appearance.
There are more qualities that go into your value than just appearance. ie: your ability to be personable/sociable and communicate with others, your ability to be reliable, your education, your job, your ability to handle stress/negative situations (probably one of the biggest ones on r9k; the majority of the people here are extremely immature in this area), how dedicated/passionate/resilient you are, etc. Your value as a human person, not a human body.
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>>34508103
Combination of a couple of things.

I'm tall and well built but, I'm also about 40 lbs overweight which turns off a lot of girls I assume.

I can also be really charming/funny in social situations when I'm comfortable, but that doesn't necessarily lead to me being confident when it comes to girls I like.

And I guess the biggest problem is that I've been completely isolated from society from most of my life. I'm still getting used to being a normal person and now that I've graduated I don't really know what to do with myself besides staying at home, aside from my long term career goals.

I also have strangely high standards, for a virgin who's never had a girlfriend. Not physically, more like they've got to be relatively smart, fairly interesting, enjoy talking to me about interesting things, compatible personalities, ect." It's not really something you can judge until you've met someone and gotten to know them, which is the problem.
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>>34508501
>There is someone for everyone
Prove it.
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Dating and hookup sites along with social media in general has created a culture where any girl, despite how she looks or acts can get a cult of followers who worship her.

It's too much attention and inflates their self-worth, they become narcissists and won't look at men below a certain threshold. This created a small group of men who are fucking literally all the women in an area while the others get sex very very rarely.
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>>34508490
Hey, I was homeschooled and kept super socially isolated and bullied by my parents. I had the same problems with being unable to talk to people that I eventually got over, and the same problem of being unable to get "close" to people in most situations now. I'd talk to you if you want.
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>>34508564
Except women don't have to cultivate any of those traits. AND WHY THE FUCK DOES EVERYBODY CLAIM THAT WOEMN WANT THESE TRAITS WHEN MY FATHER IS A COMPLETE ALCOHOLIC LOSER WITH NO ACCOMPLISHMENTS? SEEMS LIKE WOMEN ARE PRETTY SHIUT JUDGES WHEN IT COMES TO CHARACTER EH?
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>>34508610
Oh nice, another homeschool anon.

I'm
>>34508589

What was your experience like?
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>>34508501
>There is someone for everyone so this isn't true.
This is such a false hope entitled point of view, naive to put on top
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>>34508490
Borderline personality disorder you cuckable gay faggot. Have a fun time killing yourself loser, you're literal average lifespan is 30 years of age. Half of your kind actually kill themselves. Bye.
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>>34508666
Abusive and confusing. Also eventually lead to no schooling at all from 12+.
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>>34508267
>that vid

Oh Fuck that's scary
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>>34508610
I was actually also home schooled for my junior and senior year. That's probably when I stopped being unable to talk to people.
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>>34508720
Sounds like mine. I got to do grades 11-12 in a public high school, which was fantastic.

Before that though it was all spankings and verbal/mental abuse. Once when I was 3, they said that if I didn't start being more obedient, they would stop loving me. Another occasion they cancelled my little brother's birthday to get me to be more obedient, I've told that story here a couple times already. And today I had to sit and listen to my mother gush about all the sacrifices she'd made to raise us up to be such good boys.

At least I hopefully will go to college. Why haven't you gone yet?
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>>34508103
Because its normal for humans to stick to like individuals and there are divisions in jobs/recreation based on gender. Also most relationships start from your own social circle. If what we do for fun and work is divided by gender then there's going to be a shortage. Like two countries that both need gold and food. Country A has a lot food but not a lot of gold, country B has the opposite problem. Without trading both countries have problems.
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Statistics show people of both genders are having much less sex than previous decades.
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I'm not chad (although well above average) therefore I am not fuckable to any woman 6/10 and above. I am also extremely shy and never even meet girls anymore because I'm not in school, I just work (99% male). Pretty much doomed at this point.
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>>34508698
I can't wait for the day when I get the balls to finally kill myself.
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>>34508816
Money and living situation has been unstable.
I couldn't continue living with parents, so I've had to do lower paying jobs to afford to live, which sucks up a lot of time I'd otherwise dedicate to school. I am also afraid of debt, and uncertain of how I would handle schooling due to having very limited experience with typical learning styles.
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I don't know any women except my mom. Who would I ask out? Am I just supposed to approach random people on the street and ask for dates? I'm not doing that.
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>>34508870
That sucks, I'm lucky that my parents got shocked into becoming normal so I can tolerate staying with them. If you could afford it, what kind of post secondary education would you try to get?

I'm hopefully going to film school next fall.
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With no social circle you are fucked for 2 reasons

1. You're missing out on the best way to meet girls by far
2. In the event you do get a gf, how do you explain having zero friends and no life? That is a major redflag. I guess you gotta find a girl thats a loser too but females have vast social circles.
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>>34508938
Compsci or zoology. Those don't go together at all.
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>>34509200
Compsci I can understand if you're good at computers and coding, but why zoology? Do you just really like animals?
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>>34509351
Yeah, and I have autistic tier knowledge of them.
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QUESTION FOR MALE VIRGINS

If a 4/10 girl approached you for the purpose of taking your virginity, would you accept? She'd be very gentle and kind. She would not date you.
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>>34508103
I'm too shy to talk to women
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No girl ever showed interest in me or talked to me, and I don't want to go out of my way to talk to any of them.
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>>34509395
wew. Okay, autism popquiz.

What do you know about duck dicks
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>>34509417
I'd probably think it was a prank, to be quite honest, and say no
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>>34509417
No, I'm not really interested in sex just for the sake of sex right now. Even if they were model tier I'd just likely get confused and assume I'm getting tricked by some sort of internet prankster and brush them off.
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>>34509417
Even if it were a 10/10 I'd still turn her down. No commitments or relations for me.
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>>34509417
no. and it's not because she's 4/10.
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>>34508501
>le just world fallacy face

fuck off norman.
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I only literally care about getting a girlfriend because I want to erase the social stigma of never having had one away and to increase my social status among my peer group of young, socially awkward beta males so that I am once again on top of our pecking order.

But I am too passive an individual to advance far in this regard and so long as I have access to porn I will have no incentive to go out of my way to attain one so long as I have other projects.
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girls can smell my autism a mile away, so i just ignore them.
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>>34509462
>>34509493
>>34509506
>>34509511

I am sad to hear that. I always hear that ugly girls can get fucked by Chad, but I am far more interested in being someone's first time. Thank you for responding.
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I actually feel bad for anons that don't even do the effort to go outside and try, but I understand that it's not as easy for everyone. In my personal experience I avoid sex because I actually wanted to stay virgin. So, meh. Enjoy your lives folks, sex isn't everything
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>>34508103
>literally everyone is getting laid
>why are there so many virgins
Anon.....
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>>34509535
>I am far more interested in being someone's first time
why? if you're not even gonna date them. why pretend to like them?
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>>34509417
No.

I want my virginity taken by a girl I'm passionate about. Not necessarily a wife but I want us to be dating for at least a few weeks.
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>>34509448
they're cork screwed, they fall off and regrow annually and will grow a different length depending on how many other males there are in the area.
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>>34509417
Only if she'd marry me and raise my children.
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>>34508103
because of hypergamy. Hypergamy has skyrocket over the years because women have resources and because of social media. Women don't want to settle with guys unless they make as much as they do and social media gives them the option to pick from endless amount of guys.
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>>34508501
>Maybe you should put yourself out there and try instead of having such a defeatist attitude

fuck you I hate seeking validation from women. I don't want to approach every bitch just to get a "yes" or "no". I want women to give their power to me and seek my validation instead.
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>>34508103
i'm just autistic
not seriously autistic, mind you
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>>34509553
It's not about liking them. I find virginity endearing, and I want to help those who feel trapped by it. I know that many men are driven to prostitutes which make the experience of losing it horrible.

I have to admit that I'm autistic so I don't understand a lot of the motivations, the responses surprised me.
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>>34509571
fixed your diagram
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>>34509605
Me too bby, lmao
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>>34509607
just my perspective but it wouldn't help at all. virginity for me is a matter of me not being good enough for someone. and if someone is just doing it because they like the deflowering and not me, it's meaningless. I'd feel worse I think. I'd end up catching feelings, you'd say no and cut ties with me.
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Well, i have kinda always stayed away from relationships, after seeing how bad arguments got with my parents it kinda scared me from relationships, Then being socially outcasted through school and after, i only fell in love once and didnt have the nerve to confess it, that was three years ago, she ended up getting married last week.. But i mean one cool thing about being lonesome is getting to keep a nice full paycheck and blow it on guitar shit without anyone bugging me about it!
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10/10 bait thread op but your replies gave it away
made me respond
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>>34508270
This, I just never really cared about this forced social status quo, after you turn 18 people generally don't judge you anymore anyway
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>>34508864
Ignore that faggot anon, killing yourself isn't the answer
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>>34509395
Same. When I was younger I wanted to be a zoologist. The passion died when I realized there is hardly a job market, let alone a well paying one for zoologists. Still have a bookshelf full of non-fiction animal books though.
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Because I've gone so far down the rabbit hole that 3D does nothing for me and the only thing that can get me arroused are fetishes than can only exist in the 2D form.
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>>34509699
what is the answer then, sway
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>>34509607
So then why aren't you trying to go out and date a robot virgin? At least 50% of the guys on this board would accept any girl who wasn't a hambeast
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>>34508103
I'm seriously autistic. Dating is an incredibly complicated process that involves a lot of subtle social cues that even normal people have a lot of trouble with, and I have no idea how to even get started.
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>>34509560
Fantastic knowledge of duck dicks, you pass the animal autism test.

If I had an extra gf I'd give you her as a prize but unfortunately, Chad bought me out and now all I have is our hamplanet model lineup.


Bonus question: what do you call the feeding instrument some predatory insects use to digest their prey from the inside out and then consume the liquefied remains
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>>34509607
You're def a one of a kind femanon I'll say that, whoever you're dating will probably be one lucky guy
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>>34508698
We already think this to ourselves 5 times an day. Thank you for taking the time to type it out though. Now I know that I am not lying when I think it to myself.
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>mexican in the US
>rich so I never have to work or do anything to live
>26
>no degree
>no friends
>no contacts
Living as a caretaker for one of my family's 2 million dollar homes. Basically just live here with 2 dogs and take care of payments, maintenance etc. I have no drive to do anything, let alone seek a partner and I've never been fond of the idea of escorts.
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>>34509791

where do you live anon? I'm Mexican and we can be friends
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>>34508245
>Not all girls want Chad.

>>34508501
>There is someone for everyone.
Are all women naive or just sadistic liars?
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>>34509823
California near SD. I'm thinking about moving back to Mexico to seek work as a translator since I'm bilingual.
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I'm gay for one, and secondly I don't like people. I much prefer the internet over socialization
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> decide to go out and actually meet girls
> don't actually meet anyone so decide to try tinder
> oh look I've got matches and girls are talking to me
> actually manage to go on multiple dates with some of them
> then they do like everyone else, they just ghost me
> no explanation, no signs it was going to happen, they just stop one day

After having it happen 4-5 times in a row now I don't see the point in trying. It takes energy to get yourself out there and when that energy is turned into negative energy I wonder why I bothered in the first place.
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>>34509905
ghosting is the worst fucking thing, because you have no idea what went wrong.
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Not virgin but I have no hope for a gf
>Father is a good man. He just didn't love me but tried his hardest to pretend he did.
>Never actually wanted to spend time with me and would rather spend it with my other two siblings.
>I wasn't autistic or had weird interests or a weird annoying personality. He just didn't love me and had a general dislike for me despite him loving both of my brothers who were the exact sam as me.
>Older brother physically abused me when he was pissed about not having drugs
>Would torment me and younger brother to get parents to leave him alone
>In general he would teach me that I would never have friends and that everything I enjoy (normal stuff like boyscouts and cars) is stupid.
>Anytime I had friends over he would make sure to convince me that non of my friends like me.
>Anytime I showed emotion of any sort he would make sure that I know never to do that again

Thats how I went to highschool not knowing how to communicate any emotion (assuming I have any left) I would generally flirt with a girl and get a number. We wouod have out and have fun but it always would end when they find out I was essentially a husk with no real feeling.
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>>34508103
I was ugly as sin and bullied mercilessly when I was younger
I was told at every turn by my parents, especially by my mother, that I am a disappointment to them and they would have rather aborted me and tried for a girl but that's illegal.
I had basically no sex drive in college due to extremely low testosterone and didn't get anywhere
now that I'm an adult, I'm considered to be too old to be this socially awkward and a virgin.

I have basically no self esteem, because women are cruel. I have heard the phrase "dad bod" so many times to describe me. It's a hurtful way for popular women to sneak in a quick dig at guys who aren't ripped
I have been told I am too ugly, too short, too stupid, make too little money, am too boring, am too awkward to ever have sex at every turn.
I hear these things constantly from women on dating apps, at work, and in person when I try to ask them out.
I have tried to buy the premium tinder and OKC memberships to get the special odds of matches and dates. Those don't work.
I have tried going to weddings and hitting on drunk women. That doesn't work

I have missed out on social development at every turn and have been given no opportunity to catch up. Young love is over for me. the only thing that could possibly be offered to me by a woman is to be used as her personal ATM while she cheats on the side.

Dating and love as a man is cruel because women are cruel. Women hear constantly how great they are. Even the ugliest, fattest land-whale has a full support structure to help her out, while guys have nothing but hearing how they're scumbags, pigs, and all that's terrible in the world for being born a man.

My love life is over, I am giving it 6 months to lose my virginity before I pack it in. 1 year after that I will kill myself.
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>>34509769
Not the guy you're talking to but I belive he just googled about duck penises. For normies, the corckscrew penis is common knolweage. I saw it on an animation domination music video once. But to answer your question, I do not know the exact answer. I know off the top pf my head that the proboscis is the tubeular mouthpeice many insects use to consume. But, assuming you are not talking about arachnids, I would guess that this is the behavior of an assassin bug and after looking up their atannomy, I see that their mouth peice is called a rostrum.
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I've been a compmlete hiki for the past 8 years. Even if I do manage to leave my house, I wouln't know how to interact with people in the real world in any way. No woman would want anything to do with someone like me. I know I'll be alone forever, and I've learned to accept it.
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>>34509590
I think Nikola Tesla predicted this was going to happen because he understood the power of pussy.
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>>34510049
I also suspected he may have googled it, but I don't really give a shit to be honest.

I was thinking proboscis so you are right on the money, and I was thinking more of a giant water bug than an assassin bug but assassin bug was the next thing I was thinking about

you win my collection of helmet memes
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>>34508103
He acts like we haven't seen bait in our lives
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>>34508103
It's not retarded lol. You are retarded lol. Kill yourself lol.
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>>34508103
i'm scared of asking a girl out even though i could probably get a date/get laid otherwise
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>>34508103

>Literally everyone is getting laid
>So many male virgins

And thus I have mathematically proven that the 80/20 rule is real
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>>34509791
Wtf is your family high up cartel members?
>>34509535
If you wanna drive to my place and take my virginity be my guest. Assuming you are actaully a girl without a benis
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>>34508501
>There is someone for everyone so this isn't true.
kill yourself for saying something so stupid
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because I was too autistic back in MS and HS, and as of late none of the females I've had a chance with are what I'm really looking for, so I'm a volcel kv
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>>34510095
I googled the anattomy of the assassin bug but I knew about their eating habits and the name of the butterfly's mouthpart. Pic related is a few of the insect books I found in my closet.
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>>34508103
I have no issues with having friendly conversations with anyone but I don't work well when I like someone. I just don't know how to make proper advances, so I usually hide it and keep being friendly OR go for it and mess it up.

I had a gf that would give nice bjs/handjobs but she wouldn't have sex because she was terrified of pregnancy even with birth control methods (she didn't want to take pills either) and I broke up before convincing her after a couple of years.

Since then I've always failed when tried to approach a girl for more than friendship and somewhat lost my will to even try. I'd find a girl that absolutely makes me fall for her from time to time but I always mess up.
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>>34510018
Holy shit what country are you from my anon? I get shit on too but not at every turn at least.
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im 26 yet i look far younger

im 5'6

im native american

i live in a small town

im introverted and kinda autistic

any advice?

inb4 just lift bro
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>>34510253
hahahah holy shit are you literally me? from like 4-10 insects were my obsession. I knew the names of all the local species I caught, had a couple books for bugs from different areas of my country in case I ever caught one that had wandered outside it's habitat.

Do you have a bug pinboard? Don't know where my old one went, it's probably all broken and shit now.
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>>34510292
America, in Chicago
it's like night and day, I used to be really ugly so I get that I got nothing back when I lived in rural areas, but holy shit
Moving to the city, especially near a huge international hub, everything's dialed up to 11 and if you're not 6'4 and ripped making 6 figures, you can forget about any woman looking at you twice
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>>34508212
just so you know even hookers have high standards and are judgemental as fuck these days
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>>34509832
sadistic liars.
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>>34509832
yes all women and girls want "chad" or some variety of that sterotype.

no that saying was made by some bullshitter or disney and pushed by bullshitting normies to keep us as slaves

no there is not someone for everyone and thats cold hard realiti.
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>>34508267
lol no such video exists, it's probably a haircutting roleplay

although I acknowledge there's some weird themes in ASMR videos, like kidnapping roleplay, it's probably because so many content creators are competing for viewers that videos with strange themes bring in significantly more views from novelty-seekers
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Masculinity is what makes a man attractive, but because we live in increasingly comfortable times, more and more men do not live up to their masculine potential, and fall through the cracks, but woman don't suffer the same loss of potential because what makes them attractive is merely physical traits they grow into and aren't very hard to maintain, this creates an imbalance because there aren't enough females falling through the cracks to pair up with their male counterparts.
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>>34508270
Pretty much, not a whole lot changed for me, although being with my current gf for over two years has definitely helped me become less of a sperg
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>>34508103
I don't want to have sex before marriage, but for most people I think they're just shy.
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>>34509417
I'd try but I probably wouldn't be able to keep it up since I've been masturbating to 9-10/10 pornstars in HD for the better part of a decade

Actually I might be able to get it to work if I make sure I get on with it, previous attempts (with girls that more or less meet this description) have resulted in blue balls (which are, unfortunately, real) because we spooned in bed for hours before things really heated up. If things escalated in under half an hour I'd probably be good to go, it's just that I got and lost so many boners in the hours between getting in bed and actually trying to put it in that my dick was kind of done by the time I needed it the most.
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I don't think my waifu would appreciate me cheating on her.
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>>34510467
Never thought of it this way. Valid point.
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>>34510338
No bug pinboard but I did catch insects all the time when I was younger. I remember visiting my grandpa and catching junebugs then tying string around them and flying them like kites. When I was done I always untied and safely released them them. Honestly though, I was more intrested in aquatic life and still am.
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>>34509417
I have to KNOW you. Plus, if you're ugly, I'm not fucking you.
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>>34509617
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>>34509417
Probably yes. It'd be better to just get it over it.
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>>34509417
No, I have had this virginity for so long that it had better be fucking special when I lose it. Like dolphins giggling and shooting confetti out their blowholes when I come kind of special
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>>34508103
The average poster here is a shy, nerdy guy that's barely out of high school. Give them some time.
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>>34510546
Junebugs? Those are the big reddish brown striped ones, right? I remember getting traumatized/fascinated when the first one I caught died and it's babies crawled out of it's ass.

What sorts of aquatic life are you interested in? Amphibians or mainly fish?
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>>34509702
Yep. It's not a viable job. I'm more interested in it than anything compsci related, but compsci has the benefit of making a decent salary.

>>34509769
>If I had an extra gf I'd give you her as a prize
but i'm a girl

To your second question though: I do not know this off the top of my head. My interest has been primarily in mammals and birds, less so lizards and aquatic animals and even less so insects.

>>34510049
>>34510095
Swears I didn't google it. I look into bird reproduction n stuff occasionally bc they're fascinating. ie: in that most birds do not have penises, that unlike the human male/female pattern of XY and XX, birds are generally the opposite with the males having two copies of the chromosome (WW) and the females having the different two (ZW). They also see ultraviolet n that is cool as fuck. Birds are neat.
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>>34509617
>not realizing that some years/generations later, 5/10's will be considered lower than that and will eventually become 1/10's, and so will the others, and so on, it will never stop, will keep spiraling up
no escaping tbqh
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>>34509417

4 10 is pretty bad so no. I actually had one come after me pretty aggressively, I just couldn't do it though.

I don't mind being a virgin so I'm not desperate enough to fuck someone I'm not very attracted to.
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I think it comes down to personality, my brother and I are both pretty good looking, but he's charismatic. I'm autustic, and don't deal with social situations well. My brother constantly wears black and even wears trench coats, yet he still gets hot chicks. I on the other hand can't hold a conversation and if I do I'm immediately friend zoned. I'm not very aggressive and I'm very passive. I dress very plain because I don't know anything about fashion and I sonetimes get made fun of. I hate my self.
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>>34509571
Generally in older societies where matriarchy/matrilocy was prevalent, you had females sticking with one man most of the time. The difference being that all property passed through her, her children were hers, she lived on her own property, and the male came to her.
Only when you introduce men competing for multiple mates ("harems" ie: like lions) and holding all the power do you wind up with men having multiple partners, while other men have none.

Monogamy is more of a female concept, desu. It stresses parent-child investment and reduces burden on the mother; things that are a detriment to the male's reproductive success in every case except those where his offspring will not ever survive without him sticking around.
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>>34510631
Pic related is a junebug

Also for the aquatic life, i'm mostly interested in microrganisms but also intrested in fish. Infact, I have 3 fishtanks, in one I breed daphnia.
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>>34509832
>>34510345
>>34510378

Women are equally fallible and suffer from the same problem as men: they can never fully understand what they haven't experienced themselves. They probably genuinely think there is someone out there for everybody because they haven't seen any examples to the contrary, and because they haven't been on the very bottom. Those that have hit bottom have lost hope and don't believe this sappy lie. The point is, women aren't out to get you as a whole. Most women, and people in general, don't give a shit about you. Some individuals, however, may actively dislike you. Seek those that don't. And yeah, it may prove too difficult to find someone, that's just an unfortunate reality. But people who say "there is someone for everyone" have the luxury of holding on to that hope and don't understand how hard it might be for you. They mean well, but they are misguided, that's all. Blame our society's narratives about love.
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>>34510656
>I'm a girl

hmmmm you probably googled that too

but I have a question for you that cannot be googled. I had 4 pet ducks once, and we were draining our backyard pool so we let them swim in it. We had 2 males and 2 females, and somehow one of the females mounted one of the males, and then the other female mounted the other female and we had a 3 duck tower of confusing duck sexualities

what the fuck did they mean by this, I never saw anything like it before or after
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>>34510378
>yes all women and girls want "chad" or some variety of that sterotype.

My ideal guy is someone I can communicate well with and understand well, who does not express any aggressive/violent behavior, and has integrity. Do I want Chad?
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>>34510705
it's even worse if you have a situation like mine
my brother is 6'2 and weighs 250 pounds, he's a fat fuck
he has greasy hair and bad acne, is uncut and what I hear from his wife he never washes it

I'm 5'11, good shape, exercise daily, keep up with fashion and trends, keep my face clean and am circumcised

he ended up being a playboy and a pussy smasher while I'm a virgin
that's soul crushing right there
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>>34509930
I once got ghosted. It hurt pretty bad for a week or so, but I got over it.

I know exactly what I did though. It wasn't bad, I just said something flirtatious and she wasn't interested. Probably for the best, staying in shit like that where she wants to be friends and you want more isn't going to work out.
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>>34510767
Tbh I don't know for sure. I've had a few ducks over the years but never encountered this behavior in them. It could be some misdirected sexual stuff, or it could be something similar to dogs and some other mammals mounting each other as a sort of dominating display.
Were there any notable hierarchical structures between the three?
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>>34510767
>cannot be googled
http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/464906/odd-female-duck-behavior-mounting-each-other
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>>34510803
you're describing his personality, but women will ignore that or pretend that a guy fits her standards if he's good looking
she'll also ignore guys that fit those standards if he's ugly.

it's just how the world works, you're pretending to be a woman, who's pretending to be altruistic and not shallow in an effort to debunk people who rightfully say women are shallow picky fucks who have shit handed to them on a platter when they're young
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>>34510810
He probably hit on shitty low quality women you wouldn't think to reduce yourself to, and debased himself in a manner you would find shameful as well.
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>>34508854
Same boat senpai.
Dont have any social media and spend most time working.. 25 years old and things are only looking dimmer..
Thinking bout starting a tinder or okc something! I need a flesh pocket to slip into and without social media or a social circle of friends chances are slim :/
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>>34510841
But, I found a guy from here that fits that description. When we were in group chats together people often made fun of his appearance because he has some odd features, and also very bad acne. He is not disfigured-tier ugly, but he is most definitely not a Chad. It doesn't really matter much to me, although I would like to scrub his face and change his pillowcases for him to help with the acne.
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>>34510832
I hate you

>>34510828
I think this anon's link is right, it some sort of dominance thing. I never noticed a hierarchy among the females, but there was a clear dominant male who chased the other one around. Maybe the females were dominant the whole time, who knows.

What sorts of ducks have you had?
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>>34510873
stop pretending to be a woman on the internet for attention
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>>34510879
I had them when I was fairly young and they were bought by my mom from a feed store around Easter, when they would sell colorful dyed ducklings/chicks. So I'm not 100% sure what type they were, but most likely pekins.

>>34510901
Attention, maybe. But pretending, no.
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>>34510921
kill yourself for real, you don't belong here in the slightest
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>>34510921
If they were fat and white, they were probably pekins

When I was younger, my mom bought us chickens from the feed store. Buckerfield's, I think. Later one we hatched some or our own chickens, and then ducks which was fun.

Unfortunately we were never allowed to keep any for longer than a year or two, even though I took good care of them.

I miss my ducks

pic related was my favorite pet duck, a mix between indian runner and a domesticated mallard
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>>34510921
If you want whore attention post timestamped feet. Saying "ima gurl" on the anonymous chans means nothing.
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>>34508103
Shy, Autistic, Small D, Latin American, Hard to find a girl with the same interests and to top it, I'm scared of relationships and how stressful they are/can be. So yeeah..
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>>34509417
Post picture of said 4/10. Not all 4/10's are made the same.
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>>34510339
Damn anon, Godspeed. I almost moved out there for a job but now I am glad I turned them down. I'd be right there with you getting the shit end of the stick right up my ass all day.
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I have a hard time forming relationships with people. Not just romantic, but also platonic friendships. I talk to people. People seem to enjoy my company and I've never had anyone outright dislike me before. But I feel like I no longer exist as soon as I leave their line of sight.

I'm never invited anywhere, despite seeing everyone having fun doing something over Snapchat and Instagram. Whenever I invite others to do something they're always busy or they flake last minute. When I send text messages or Snapchats to people they usually go unanswered, despite knowing these people are on their phones most of the day. The rare times I ever get messaged first is usually because they need my help for something.

What am I supposed to do about this? There's no way I can get a girlfriend if I can't even make a solid friendship.
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>>34509769
hemipterans i.e. assassin bugs, stinkbugs, water scorpions have a rostrum

butterflies and moths, I think flies too??? have a proboscis

not the poster you replied to first, my autism is confined to insects and arthropods only.
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>>34508245

>Some girls don't care about looks at all actually

kek tier bait 11/10
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>>34511140
Oh, that's interesting. I must have had my info wrong. What's the major difference between a proboscis and a rostrum?
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>>34509617
you know every society collapse because of that. betas are not going to sustain society if they are not being sexually rewarded for their efforts in society. betas are just going to rebel the system and society collapses.
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>>34511191
Im not >>34511140, im the guy who first answered the question but a rostrum is more beak like, found on carnivores and used to puncture an insects carapace, while a proboscis is more often found herbivores and decomposers, used to suck up liquids and powders.
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>>34511302
how many fucking bug autists are there on r9k jesus christ

That is interesting though, thank you

you better not have googled it though
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>>34511334
So far, 2-3, ive been samefagging a bit.
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I don't approach women, and women rarely ever approach men. Also I don't use social media. Pretty easy to be a virgin, not that it's a big deal.
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>>34510746
I think I know what you are trying to say because according to this professor species of animals that were monogamous females had the aggression and not the males. also the females were doing the competing not the males in species of animals that were monogamous.
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>>34508103
>No 80/20 rule retarded shit please.
so you want us to lie to you?
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>>34511356
which ones were you, I'm curious
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32 m virgin los angeles

kik: zsasza

not shy
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>>34511755
OUT OUT OUT

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>>34511490
Im
>>34511356
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>>34510748
>>34510253
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>>34510049
(Orignal as a tomato is ripe in summer)
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>>34511834
Oh sorry, I never saw your reply. More details about the micro-organism you breed? That's actually cool.
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>>34511834
Forgot that I was also this poster- >>34510546
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>>34511860
Daphnia magna, the largest species of daphnia. I feed them to my pet fathead minnows. They are facenating critters and I even did a science project about them back in high school. Right now, they are pretty self sufficient, I feed them yeast once a month but they usually feed off tank alage. Pic related is my microscope.
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>>34511934
Fuck, forgot pic, original as kale in spring
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>>34508103
I'm a 26 year old virgin and at this point in my life, I just don't see the point in having sex anymore. I just won't ever be able to catch up in quality to everyone else, and if I did somehow manage to have sex, I'd probably just be really angry and upset at the idea of having missed out on sex the way it was supposed to be experienced, having an experience that's like only 1/100th as good as everyone else got out of it.
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>>34511934
>>34511942

wait what, you have microbes large enough to feed to your fish? What sort of monster bugs are you breeding anon
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>>34511977
They are not the only thing I feed my fish, I just sacrafice them when the population gets too big. A crazy thing though, for my fatheads, their filter broke and I was too lazy to fix it, now weird flies breed in the filter off the scum and alage and the fish eat those too. But back tot the subject, I sprinkle some fish food in once in a while. Pic related is the daphnia species. In my tropical tank, I also breed black mollies, pic comming up in my next post.
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>>34512039
And here is the pic of my baby mollies.
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>>34512039
>>34512080

wait so what the fuck actually are they? The picture looks more like some sort of tiny cephalapod (I think that's what shit like nautalis and squids are)
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>>34512109
Well in >>34512080, they are baby fish but for the daphnia, they are small crusteations that live in freshwater. They have 2-3 eyes (one ia compound), are herbivores, exhibit both sexual and asexual behavior, and can evolve rapidly to meet the requirments of their environments such as low oxygen or scarce food.
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>>34512145
If they're crusteations, shouldn't you be feeding them bread crusts?

grammar puns aside, that's pretty cool. How'd you get into keeping them/the fish, and where would even buy any? Do you just get them from pond water? Are there any lonely virgin robot daphnia who shitpost on vietnamese washing boards?
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>>34508490

Pretty much this.

I was fat and hated in high school, and fat and too shy to talk to anyone in university.

After I graduated I stopped being fat and stopped visibly dropping my spaghetti in public, but I'm still too shy and I don't have the extensive social network that everyone else formed in university. I have a good career but I just go home to my parents' house at the end of the day.
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>>34512227
I got my daphnia off http://www.carolina.com/?s_cid=ppc_gl_Carolina&gclid=COPE_KGe6dECFdi3wAod3MIPlw, caugt all my freshwater fish, and got my tropical onea from petco. I stated keeping fish when I got a tank for my birthday when I was 7 and started breeding only recently. The reason for my freshwater fish and daphnia are for science expeirments and because they helped me, I would not want to kill them, plus to release the freshwater fish it would be illegal where I live. My facenation for microorganisms stemmed from using microscopes in 7th grade and doing stream surveys later in life.
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>>34512361
How did you catch your minnows? And how do you keep them alive? I used to catch a lot of freshwater fish from my local streams and lakes as a kid, but they always died usually after a few days, the longest lasting one was for a month I think
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>>34509417

>She would not date you.

No. I don't care that I'm a virgin, I care that I have nobody to love.
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>>34512474
They have been alive for 4.5 years (average lifespan is 2 years), when my filter broke I just used airstones and I feed them fishflakes once a week, the foarge flies that fall in the water from the filter, and I feed them daphnia once a month.
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>>34512476
love yourself! That's all that matters! :)
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>>34512500
So do they have a self sustaining population? I always thought minnows were baby fish, but these ones will always be small like this?
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>>34512474
I also forgot to mention, I caught them with a homeade minnow trap, brings up boyscout memories of stealing someones crayfish trap, having a fellow troop member pee on their tents and then streak in camp (he was gay) but thats another story. Nice talking too you but its late, night.
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>>34511448
>so you want us to lie to you?
No. I want you to stop making excuses, get out of your mothers basement and try talking to girls.

>>34511970
May I ask why you're still a virgin? Most likely you're just overthinking it, and you're your own worst enemy.. Don't say it's your looks alone because I've seen ugly guys with cute girls.
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>>34512521
I guess one more reply, fry are baby fish, minnows are just a small kind of fish, I have fatheads and they are somewhat sustaining, only 2 left (orignal population was 15), three died in the brown alage crisis of 2013 but they have bewn slowly dying over the years. I bet they could survive a month at least without me feeding them but im not creul.
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>>34512558
Are you just going to ignore the people here who actually talked to girls and realized they're cruel heartless cunts who just want a Chad?
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>>34512599
>Are you just going to ignore the people here who actually talked to girls and realized they're cruel heartless cunts who just want a Chad?
No point. They've already made up their minds. I only want to talk to the open minded.
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>>34512637
So you only want to bait and pick on low hanging fruit to further your own agenda?
Get out of here you roleplaying faggot
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>>34512675
If r9k says the mythical "Chad" is all the girls want, that is all they'll see. And they will stay virgins. It's a self fulfilling prophecy.
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>>34512585
thanks for the fun talk anon, I hope you enjoy your fish autism
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>>34512705
Can you explain what most women actually want then?
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>>34512637
we already told you the reasons. women are the gatekeepers of sex and they make that choice who gets sex and who doesn't. women would rather give it to chad then a robot for biological evolutionary reasons. you are not going to chance female nature anything time soon by making them be attracted to weak effeminate men with no confidence or money.
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>>34508600
Not true

Everyone I know gets pussy all the time
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>>34512705
It's not some mythic Chad it's a placeholder for saying that women are spoiled, self entitled brats
Society babies them, tells them they're perfect the way they are
Then tells Gus they're garbage
They're not tall enough, not fit enough, not strong enough, too poor, not funny enough
So you wonder why there are male viegins when only the top percent of guys get most of the women
It's not rocket science anon, social media has rotted the brains of women and given them huge egos

Even like you, who comes to a board filled with low self esteem virgins and pokes fun at them and stirs shit up for your own amusement because you're a cruel piece of shit. Who acts like it's a walk in the park to get laid when women can and will get someone 10 times hotter than you on demand with the internet

It's pointless and you know it, you're just a vapid whore like the rest of the women. Devoid of any empathy at all and here to make fun of us and kick us while we're down. You are a real piece of shit you know that?
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you should have sex with somebody you actually love
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>>34512737
>Can you explain what most women actually want then?
Contrary to popular belief women don't all think the same. I actually find this offensive. But any worthwhile woman craves a guy who she can have fun with. That's it. I'd rather date an ugly guy with a great personality, than some muscled up guy with an empty mind. That's not very entertaining. Ask your friends at /g/ they will tell you Chad is just a meme. It's more about who you are than what you look like.
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I'm still a virgin because I'm shy and I don't have a preexisting circle of friends.
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>>34512835
Women all want the exact same thing
Notice how they all go for the 6'4 white Nordic guy
If given the option, they would all pick the same guy and I find it annoying you think we're dumb enough to believe you

Also
>/G/
>Experts on relationships
We may be virgins but we're not stupid you cunt
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>>34512835
so then how do I find all the worthwhile women
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>>34508103
>be unattractive
>have hobbies that women hate (video games, metal concerts, motorcycles)
>live in middle of nowhere
>don't want marriage or kids

This how I've managed to be 4everalone
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>>34512906
You don't
That person is someone with no empathy who came here to poke and prod the virgins to get funny reactions
They have no intention of helping people, only insulting and being as unempathetic as possible
They fail to see how a more open sexual market serves only the attractive just as the open market only serves the rich
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>>34508103
>be beaner manlet
The 80/20 rule is true; can confirm from werk. Just check out OkCupid's dating stats friendo.
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>>34512835
>I'd rather date an ugly guy with a great personality, than some muscled up guy with an empty mind

actions speak louder then words dear.Have you ever dated a fun fat neet from here? also according to statistics women like wealth more then anything.
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>>34508103
i have serious self-esteem issues
i have no urgent base need to be in a relationship
i do no social activities
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>>34512952
why would someone do this, originally or organically?
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>>34512971
I'm tall, fairly strong, got a decent face and I can be pretty funny/charming when I'm comfortable

But because I'm about 40 lbs overweight no girl ever bothers approaching me or getting to know me or even really gives me a chance. Who knows maybe they'd ignore me even if I was fit and buff
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>>34512558
>No. I want you to stop making excuses, get out of your mothers basement and try talking to girls.

that doesnt work, they'd rather date chad or be alone.
>bububuh but anon ull u hab tow doo is talk doo derm
yeah yeah whatever it hasnt worked before its not going to work now just because you want orbiters in real life doesnt mean other girls want a bunch of beta strangers trying to talk to them unless they're a wanna be stacy so they can tell their friends about how some creepy loser was so interested in her to boost her ego since she couldnt get to the top of chads harem and her friends know shes low in the hierarchy rotation of girls he bangs
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>>34512952
>That person is someone with no empathy
I'm trying to help robots improve their lives, how is that being a person with no empathy? Explain it to me. I want to know.
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>>34513005
That's about half the posts here now
Edgy normalfags come here from Reddit and Tumblr to poke and prod the funny virgins for exploitable material
They have no empathy and don't even see us as people, just pawns to fuck around with so they can get internet points

The short answer would be because women are cruel and Chads are cruel they seek to tear people down even further on a place like here, where down on their luck virgins come to vent
They even think they're going to cure us but don't realize all this prodding makes people double down and get entrenched even more
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>>34513052
hmmmmm but what if they're trying to help and you're just trying to keep me a virgin

>>34513033
they have dubs so unless you can show me some impressive digits I'm gonna have to go with them
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>>34512558
>May I ask why you're still a virgin? Most likely you're just overthinking it, and you're your own worst enemy.. Don't say it's your looks alone because I've seen ugly guys with cute girls.
Depression, lack of experience, low self-esteem, no money, etc.

I honestly can't think of a single reason a woman would want to date a 26 year old with no car, no career prospects, no money, no college education, no dating experience, etc, regardless if I'm funny or nice. She can date men who are funny and nice *and* have all those things too, there's no reason why she would want to settle for me.
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>>34513033
Not a single thing you have said is helpful all you've done is dropped a bunch of useless platitudes that aren't even true
There is not someone for everyone
Women do not have a variety of interests in guys, basically all of them want a predefined template
Just being yourself or just talking g to girls is shit advice if you're unattractive

And saying "lmao virgins how can u fuck up? I got offered sex constantly because if my vagina how can you fail?" Doesn't help

You have no empathy at all zip zero Nada
Because you fail to even think about other people and the different circumstances they may have, you think everyone loves a perfect little life like yourself

So stop, this is not help, you are actively pushing these people farther into this shit. You are actively hurting the situation so get lost and never come back
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>>34513113
sorry anon but kek has spoken and you are a false prophet
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>>34513138
You're a moron if you base your opinions around memes and doubles
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>>34512835

>hang out with girl all the time
>she actively tries to hang out with me
>keeps saying cryptic shit leading me on
>fall for her
>ask her out
>"i'm not really looking for that kind of thing right now."
>hooks up with chad less than a month later
>later he dumps her so she tries luring me in again

That's when I stopped falling for the roastie meme. You women spout all this crap about being better than that while posting anecdotal evidence or arguments with no facts to back them up as if they means anything. You literally can't understand what it's like to be one of us and never will.
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>>34508103
Im literally Autistic, not just using that as a buzzword, I am. I'm also unemployed, overweight, and terminally ill.
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>>34513164
and you are a heretic, begone.
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>>34508103
bottom 2% other 98% get laid
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>>34508103
It is literally 80/20 combined with women being more and more on the workforce/getting "higher" education (PhD in gender studies). Average men are invisible.
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>>34513524
You do know that around 25 percent of men are still virgins by age 20 right?
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>>34513188
Stop trying to use friendship as a guise to try and fuck your friends. That makes you a shitty friend.
Also
>shitty greentext anecdote about roastie
>You women spout all this crap about being better than that while posting anecdotal evidence or arguments with no facts to back them up as if they means anything
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>>34513553
>below average men are invisible
Ftfy
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>>34513569

Nope. It's actually around 14.4% according to the CDC. Pic related, also the drop off is sharp after age 25. There are only 2.5% of men between ages 22 - 44 that are still virgins. Most 20 year old virgins who come here stay that way, but we only make up a small percent of males. We are truly freaks.
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>>34513626
No, with the internet, average men are seen as below average now. So the average guy is basically invisible to women
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>>34513658
I love data
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>>34513663
If the average is now the below average, what's the new average?
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>>34513669

useful, but incredibly sobering and depressing
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>>34513569
>>34513569
then why the hell everybody else gets laid but me?
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>>34513691

because you're the bad guy
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>>34513686
Stats are always good for a reality check.
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>>34513706
He's Razor Ramon?
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>>34513680
It's like the phrase "if you're in time, you're late"
Women's expectations s have rise to the point where they no longer see the actual average guy as being average
What they see as average is a 6-7 out of ten
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>>34513613
You're missing the part where she obviously stopped hanging around with >>34513188
while she was with Chad Thundercock. The minute Chad dumped her, she fell back to using anon as a comfort.
TL;DR Women literally use robots so they don't feel alone and it's disgusting
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Not everyone has the patience to deal with a woman's bullshit.
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>>34508103
because of my personality
i don't bother anyone and i am content with everything

if i ever talk to anyone, it is because they started talking to me and then it is pretty much up to them to keep the contact, because i will never call them or send the first text

also i don't know how to accept or give compliments

>get friendly with a girl
>she is always complimenting me
>all i can say is an awkward "thanks" without looking at her, change the subject or just ignore it entirely

>at a beach with the same girl
>she says that she thinks she's ugly
>want to say that she's not
>can't
>don't say anything
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>>34513894
Just get out there and talk to girls. Don't even think about it. The next time you're out in public strike up a random conversation. Even if you are "below average" I bet you could get a pretty girlfriend if you worked on yourself instead of sitting on the computer all day making up excuses for why you can't what you really want.
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>>34513957
Nobody strikes up random conversations in 2017. Not even normies do this yet you want a turbo autistic robot to try this, spill spaghetti and feel even worse? Shame on you
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>>34513957
Oh God the cringe would keep me awake at night for years. I hate when normies say you have nothing to lose by trying when in fact the memory will replay over and over whenever I'm not keeping myself overstimulated with video games and music and food and porn.
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>>34513957
This is horrible advice
Like I said before you are doing nothing to help these people and you would be better off leaving
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>>34513993
Exactly. Normies don't realize that robots will replay cringe moments over and over in their heads. Yet there's a fucking NORMIE IN THIS THREAD TRYING TO GET ROBOTS TO CREATE EVEN MORE CRINGE MOMENTS BY "JUST PUT YOURSELF OUT THERE MY DUDE"
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>>34513945
Is she ugly though? More importantly, are you?
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>>34513894
Wait, 6-7/10 isn't average?
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>>34514031
Robots are normies. Just low quality ones.
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>>34513910
No, I got that part. That's something that people do, though. They start dating someone and everyone else in their life becomes peripheral.
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>>34513945
I can relate to all of this.

Do you also have trouble calling people by name? Especially girls.
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>>34514079
>Above average isn't average?
???
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>>34514092
Dumbass, he said he got feelings for her AFTER they became friends.
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>>34513957
>Just get out there and talk to girls. Don't even think about it.

Pretty sure this is bait but whatever. You really don't get how autists work do you? You tell an autist to go out there and talk without thinking about it and they start reciting trivia and obscure knowledge and basically make every normie they come into contact with feel unconformable. Most people here are self-aware so they can hold back the autism and inexperience, but then they just get paralyzed and just say bland shit to not attract any negative attention.

The best advice you can give to autists is to channel all that autistic energy into building meticulous, complex plans into losing weight, getting fit, and researching ways to dress well and in style. Personality is a meme given that you are already good looking or physically attractive. As long as you are not serial killer or rapist tier then you're good. Just channel all your resources into getting as physically attractive as possible and ignore this normies' empty platitudes and hallmark card bullshit.
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Because there is a concerted effort by normies to obstruct and deny me of love
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>>34514102
Seriously, I thought it was like American grading system. 7/10= a c.
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>>34508289
There will always be an upgrade no matter who you are or how great you are; and companionship/love is something you can offer no matter how shit you are.
Therefore your argument is inherently flawed in that these "deficiencies" you believe you have either don't exist, or don't really matter, and besides, you can always improve.
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>>34514031

They are actually right though, getting rejected only hurts when you are overly invested in being successful.

Its better to look at like how many rejections can you collect rather than actually getting the girl.
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>>34508377
So am I but I still bagged a gf, it just takes friendly persistence, and a tiny bit of fun.
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>>34508488
I can't comparatively judge your looks without a pic brah.
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Kind of a shut in, don't get out much. Obviously you'll say you should go out and put yourself out there, but where? My college is small, and our clubs are all based around identity politics. My major is a sausage fest and it's not as if any of my peers are any better women for the most part, which is another thing commonly suggested.

So I try to go out and do new things, but I wind up just doing them alone. I'm mostly happy with my life, except for the fact I have 0 possibility of meeting a woman. At this point the only thing I can think of is to force myself to sign up for a club or class for the sole cause to find one. Plus I find that most people have trouble empathizing with a lot of my experiences, so I tend to be rather emotionally reserved with most people.
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>>34508490
>>34512230
Join a club for something you like, you'll make friends eventually.
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>>34514077
she was ok looking, a bit of a butterface, body was very good though
i've had more than one girl showing interest in me, so i guess i'm not that ugly

>>34514098
yes
i've had occasions where i need something from a person that is walking away from me so i kept following them by awkardly powerwalking until i caught up to say whatever i needed to say, when i could've avoided all of it by just calling our their name
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>>34514208
Are you ugly? If yes give up right now.
Are you average looking? You should probably give up right now.

I'm also a shut in. The only reasons I go outside is for work and to buy groceries. How exactly are people like us supposed to meet anyone or have anything other than an internet based relationship. I'm having one of those both we will probably never meet in real life.
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>>34508103
>No 80/20 rule retarded shit please.

I want to know why everyone is getting laid but don't want the real answer the post
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>>34514208
Look into drugs. Alcohol+caffeine or possibly Adderall may help you overcome your shyness
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>>34508664
He probably goes after desperate or insecure women, or he's a good liar and hides what he's really like until he gets what he wants out of them anon.
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>>34514240
>awkardly powerwalking until i caught up
I've never realized this was an option and just instantly made plans that involved not calling their name to get their attention. But what do you do when you've caught up? Say hey when you've caught up, touch their arm, or keep powerwalking at the same pace until they realize it's you. All of those option paralyze me with fear.
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>>34514106
What the fuck ever. She doesn't have feelings for him. Get over it.
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>>34514275
>Look into drugs.
No thanks. I actually used to drink a lot of energy drinks and it caused a lot of migraines and nosebleed issues.

I don't really think I'm that shy, unless not being interested in cold approaching people counts as such. It's just that my interests are absolute sausage fests and are generally solitary in nature. As I said, I'm basically in a situation where I'd have to feign interest in something to actually do things where women are.

>>34514252
>How exactly are people like us supposed to meet anyone or have anything other than an internet based relationship
That's part of the reason I'm emotionally reserved. I've had some good friendships over the years through the internet, and people from meat space generally just don't get it. Fuck, one of them was terminal and let me tell you, it was pretty horrible finding out through a very roundabout way after noticing they hadn't logged on for way too long. That's one thing I'm taking to the grave.
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>>34508870
Get a security guard job, specifically a "firewatch" position if you can manage it, you'll have more than enough time to study, and you'll get paid decent cash to do basically nothing.
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>>34514296
i only do it when there is no other way
just walk up to be beside them and say whatever i need to say, like "you forgot this"
they usually are a bit surprised to see me
>touch their arm
i never touch other people, except for handshakes or slightly pushing aside someone who is standing in the way
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Female virgins are comprable in number. They just aren't on the internet screaming a out it all day. People are having less and less sex in general
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>>34509699
Get the fuck out,normie!
It's his life,not yours to decide!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!
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>>34508103
I just like being alone most of the time, if I'm around other people I'd rather have a good time with friends than go through all the meme that is dating
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>>34514461
Comparable in number? If she's over 14, she's been dicked unless she's been kept locked up by her family. And even then she's probably had dad in her.
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>>34508103
joax on you millennials are having less sex than any previous generation in 60 years

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-millennials-less-sex-20160802-snap-story.html
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>>34514692
The average age that a person loses their virginity is 17, by age twenty there's a 2percent gap in the virginity rates of males and females (12%/14%).
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Being attractive is like living in another dimension. Everything is given at your feet. You have got nothing to do. Just being yourself is enough. They have such an easy time getting what they want that they can fulfil their basic human needs easily. Its impossible for unattractive people to understand attractive people and vice versa. Your reason to live when you are attractive is to just wake up in the morning and do whatever you want, without ever having to deal with bursts of depression from the lack of fulfilment of your basic human needs.

Its a different universe

When you get a snapshot of the personal life of attractive people, you get to understand just how easy it is for them.

They dont have to do anything special. Messages come by themselves. Dates are automatic. You pick and choose who you want.
The worst of all is when those people try to be nice with you.

We all know the nice guy meme and how he creeps women out and other people. That's an unattractive person trying to communicate with an attractive one. It just does not work.

Well, when an attractive person tries to be nice to an unattractive one, the same happens but in reverse. Instead of telling the truth, whether it be too fat, ugly, or unkempt, they will avoid hurting your feelings and will lie to do so.

They have no idea what you need. Whether it's losing weight or hit up the surgeon.

They can not possibly understand how it is for you. They live in another world.

And the worst of them is those who reject honesty and will choose to lie to you. When they are your family members its the worst. You are already sheltering yourself because of rejection. You go home and the circle never ends.

Culture of political correctness may be an element of the problem. being nice is bad for you. Honesty is the cure.
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>>34514823
Man, I didn't read any of that and you didn't give me a tldr. What the fuck dude.
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>>34514846
tldr ur uglu kys
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>>34514755
Guys always lie about having more sex than they really do, and girls always lie about having less. Sexual studies are nothing but damned lies.
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>>34508103
Women do not like skinny, long haired dudes. Besides my personality is pretty cold and stoic so that is no good.
No women has ever approached me to this day and I do not engage in that stuff because I do not want to bother people.
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>>34511970
It's instinctual buddy, there's no catching up to do, just do what your body wants, and ask for feedback from your lady and it's easy. Also forget the virgin meme, the only difference between a virgin and a non-virgin is blood, nervousness, and pain. I'd take a slut any day over a virgin, they're just as tight and way more fun.
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>>34508103
I can jerk off and that's enough. But what good is non-virginity when I need a gf.
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>>34514869
Pardon me, I most certainly am not an igloo, thank you very much.
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>>34510310
Move to a larger town, get (or already have) a decentish job, join a club that interests you, drink a bit but not to excess.
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>>34508103
Shyness is the simple answer. I'm getting laid pretty regularly now at 26, but I was a 25yo KHV lol

Very good at making friends, very good at talking to others and (I think) attractive enough since girls would routinely hit on me. I also have social anxiety with anything romantic however, and pretty severe depression, which prevented me from ever wanting to share with another girls.

Lots of therapy and slow advancement in my career gave me confidence, but God knows if I was ugly or stupid I would've been fucked with my personality.

If you're ugly, you better be a success and charming.

If you're a dick, you better be good looking and successful.

And if you're a failure, you better be good looking and charming lol


You don't need to be tall AND smart AND successful AND charming AND attractive...etc
But you need quite a few of those factors unless you're willing to dumpster dive and lots of people just don't have their shit together.

Not a race, and anyone can change at anytime. Hell, a friend of mine was a 30yo KHV wizard and he's only started dating recently as he's found he's now a huge catch for 30yos lol
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>>34508501
Someone for everyone only works if you enforce monogamy. And we do the exact opposite across the first world
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>>34515537
Basically this, AND

accept that it's never over. You might fail for years and years... I literally failed from a decade between 16 and 26yo with constant fuckups lol There's always time to change...

Change your career, change your body, change your personality and hell, for some people, change their face or general look.

If you're gonna be dumb then you gotta be tough. Same deal with chicks. If you're awkward and nervous then you better be fucking tough because you'll need to deal with a LOT of mindfield walking and horrible failures lol
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>>34515478
>>34515478
Also this. I was a virgin when I slept with my first gf and she loved the sex. Not to mention, unless you're in some wierd loveless relationship you'll now be having sex multiple times a day with a real gf or lover. At that point it's pretty easy to "catch up." I mean even if you're bad, if the girl likes you I'm sure she can handle 2-3 weeks of awkward fucking while you get up to speed.

Catch up basically means understanding how to use your dick and erasing all the r9k mentality lol All the silly insecurities that suggest anyone under 6 foot will die alone or anyone with a dick under 8 inches is small lol Fucking a few girls and realizing that even at 6inches, your dick will be too big for a regular girl in certain positions will make you feel a lot better. Similarly, realizing that going soft isn't a biggie or cumming too quick isn't a biggie since a steady gf doesn't really judge you and you can always just jerk yourself hard again REALLY removes the edge and nervousness...

When I think of all the insecurities that prevented me from committing to regular sex as a teen or early 20yo I laugh my fucking ass off now that I've been fucking for a few years.
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>>34515568
No it doesn't retard. The idea of somebody for everybody is that with limited choice, you're going to find someone tailored to your personality and idiosyncracies, INCLUDING THE SHITTY ONES.

Now is this idealistic and naive? Sure.
And naturally, without forced monogomy there will be an entire segment of the population that's brutally shy and poor at displaying their traits, but the idea that most girls only want to bang 20% of male SuperCHADs is retarded and akin to the,

"I'm too nice/smart for dating."


It's a pathetic attempt at coping to rationalize a negative trait as positive.

Also, I wonder how your graph would look like on a longitudinal basis?
You're comparing age cohorts, but across a static time point -- 2010. Women have it easy as shit now and are actually favored in the work place, but that's largely the product of legislative and social changes that've occurred in the past few decades.
You don't think that era a person was raised in would serve as a clear confound in the above data?
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>>34515805
*unlimited choice

Sorry, I'm just saying it's a clear platitude meant to reflect the, "many fish in the sea," mentality.

...Trying to connect it with 80/20 is such a faggoty robot move
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This one has high standards, but at the same time he is as enervated and as bloodless as a ghost. this is coupled with a poor imagination as well. I know that, in the abstract, life and love are possible and wonderful, but I can't charge my heart with enough zeal to care enough to lift a finger for the sake of the things that I know would carry me to heaven (at least for a little while).

plus I'm a mere six, maybe even a five, in the looks department

or maybe my imagination is too good... just the idea that sex is possible, that love is possible in this all-to-painful world often fills me with a feeling like satisfaction, as if imagination's desire could satisfy itself
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>>34514276
>Is stoned to the point of not being able to speak when meeting my mother
>Tehehe, so cute, let's go to a theater play together next week
>Falls asleep in the theater because he has been up drinking the night before
>Aw, perfect, this is the man I want to have a child with
If my mother chose my father, it can only mean she never actually cared about me. If my mother doesn't love me, no women can. Therefore, women are the enemey and deserve to suffer. There should be state-issued, mandatory acid-showers for every women. Would they still consider themselves too good for me, when their pretty little faces are melting away?
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>>34515012
>Women do not like skinny, long haired dudes

bullshit, in fact a lot of women do. You're maybe dressing like an autist
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I develop emotionally slower than most people by about 1-2 years. This meant in highschool I neglected girls due to my immaturity. By the time my emotional age caught up at around 19 everyone else had their stuff figured out and I was left bumbling through this on my own to no success. After HS most of my friends got gfs and have dropped contact with me. I'm now old enough now to know how this relationship stuff should work but I was too late and the lack of good experience leaves me hopeless at this. It also doesn't help that I am socially slow. Social things that most people do like responding to what someone has said takes me around three times as long to do, leading to awkward social pacing. This entire post also took me about 20 min to write. Not kidding.

tl;dr late emotional development + socially slow = virgin robot

>>34514113
This post actually helped me. This is why I clicked into this thread and read through nearly 300 posts of oregano bullshit.

>>34514275
>Alcohol
Makes me less talkative. Drinking more makes me sleepy.
>caffeine
Makes me jittery and anxious.
>adderall
Too hard to get.

Drugs are a meme.
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>>34516413
Just improve yourself. If you study "people" you can find out what you could do to improve yourself. You will have to Cameleon the shit out of yourself. You will have to start doing shit you don't like daily.
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>>34515542
>a friend of mine was a 30yo KHV wizard and he's only started dating recently as he's found he's now a huge catch for 30yos lol
this is beyond pathetic. Robots don't want used up roasties who rode the cock carousel and now want to settle down. Because at the end of the day they will still fuck Chad Thundercock behind your back.
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>>34508103

I have very low self esteem, am not ambitious and have a generally miserable personality. That also makes me unkempt and overweight.
I don't feel like I deserve the attention or affection of anyone, much less the opposite sex.
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For me, it's simply that I don't know how to be entertaining. Or how to flirt. Or what the next step is to actual sex.

I've had half a dozen girls outright express interest without me even chasing, but I just make small talk until they get bored and fuck off.

Literally I have no idea what to do.
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Because I have no friends. There are no social ties or venues for me to find girls through. Back in highschool when I had friends there were a few girls that asked me out but as an adult even though I'm 5 times better than I was back then I get left behind.

I'm also a diagnosed autistic which makes the social dance incredibly taxing and difficult. All I can do is improve my looks to the highest degree possible and hope a chubby 3/10 comes along and shows me pity.
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>>34508103
Waiting for the robowaifu revolution
Gotta keep the market alive
>Only a few years until I can cuddle my robowaifu in bed while listening to my alt right podcasts
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>>34509417
What's the point of getting laid once, out of pity, and never again?
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>>34514144
I know it's been 5 hours since you posted this, but I really just wanted to let you know:

fuck you

seriously eat a dick boi
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>>34508103
>why are there so many male virgins
>300 replies
Men (in general) want sex more than women. This isn't 80/20, it is just a fact. Nearly all statistics about masturbation, porn, prostitution and things slant towards men being far hornier.

It is true all men prefer young smoking hot women, but many men would still fuck a 50 year old chubby lady.

By contrast nearly all women would find it repulsive to have sex with the least attractive men. It would be a traumatic experience. Even if a woman finds a man attractive she has to warm up to him first. Is this wrong? If it isn't I might as well reach for the fedora and become a beta orbiter in the belief women are instantly attracted to me and I just have to prove I'd be a good bf.

I realize there is always something I can do to improve myself, I have to accept the facts if I want to figure out how to get out of the rut I am in and so do you if you want the actual answer to your question. I was socially excluded when I was a dumb teenager, I never went to parties and never learned about pop culture and normy things, now as an adult I have little free time to socialize to learn social skills and few want to socialize with me because I lack social skills. I have few opportunities to meet women and the vast majority won't give me the time of day because I am an outsider to them. No woman is instantly attracted to me and no woman will "warm up" to me, compare this with a socially awkward woman who is instantly attractive to at least a few men and is given a chance.

Have you never seen this? You never saw that awkward quiet boy who always sat at the back of the class? Usually it was a boy, I am sure some were girls but I never saw any, it seems to me that the level of loneliness and isolation we see here is mostly boys. If you are a feminist you can argue that as men we are less dependent on others and there is less pressure on us to be sociable or something, but regardless this is the end result.
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>You never saw that awkward quiet boy who always sat at the back of the class?
No because that was me.
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>>34508103
>so many male virgins
>literally everyone is getting laid

Way to contradict yourself
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>>34508103
>4/10 looks
>dont't go out
>live in an extroverted society
>barely any friends
>non-ironically can't stand women and their behaviour
>unkept
>literally a generic STEM 4-eyed nerd
>like 2 sets of baggy clothes (dress like shit)
>crushing subconscious looks-based inveriority complex
>6' dick (pretty sure I'll get laughed at and commit a murder suicide)
I dunno man, how could male virgins exist. Crazy, amirite?
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>>34511302
>>34511191
spot on, my fellow bug autist. some true bugs like stinkbugs also use rostrums for eating plant juice but I think the distinction lies in:

1. what insect is wielding the eating apparatus? if its a "true" bug (wheel bug, squash bug, stink bug etc), then you call it rostrum. anything else, proboscis.

2. does it actively puncture food items like a syringe to inject venom or digestive juice? if so, rostrum. if it just sucks up food like a tube, proboscis.

idk i am not googling so take this with a pinch of salt. All I can reliably say is that all true bugs will have rostrums.

>tfw you used to autistically imagine bugs having DnD style attribtes as a kid
>still amazed by the amount of complexity and engineering that goes into making their legs, mandibles, wings etc
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>>34508103
>No 80/20 rule retarded shit please.

>No actual truthful, realistic answer, please. Reality confuses me.
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>>34510095
if by giant water bug you're referring to toebiters (they go by lots of names), honestly just use whatever name you want as long as you're not writing an academic paper. Rostrum refers to the mouthparts of true bugs (water bug, wheel bug, stink bug, assassin bug etc etc...) more specifically.
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>>34508103
I don't even understand how people have the time to get laid. I'm working 2 part time jobs to put myself through college.

I'm probably autistic as well but even if I wasn't there'd just be no time.

Also I'm homeless so I highly doubt any girl would want to sleep with me.
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>>34512109
yeah cephalopods are anything with tentacles and big eyes (therefore excluding jellyfish, anemones etc). nautilus, squid, octopus, cuttlefish.
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>>34518698
Being homeless is literally perfect. You can couchsurf and fuck girls on couches every day.

Also, you must be really shit at managing your money if you're working two jobs and are still homeless.
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>>34508270
Because I legitimately don't give a shit about being a millionare? Why should I? It's not like if I work hard get laid. Literally nothing would change. If I ever do get to the point of absolutely needing to buy a house, then I'll get a loan and buy stuff.
Seriously. Stop being such fucking spergs over something as retarded as money.

> Not realizing that people have different wants and needs
> Not realizing one mans 'virginity' is another mans 'million dollars'
> Not being able to comprehend why someone would want to fulfil a biological need brought on by millions of years of evolution

You dense motherfucker
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>>34511334
way too lazy to individually reply to all my posts to show which ones were me (11pm and no dinner yet) but /an/ lurker checking in. Have an autistic obsession with praying mantids, firstly because they're badass and secondly because the male is the ultimate beta so I feel some kindred. I'm not as well versed in the habits of other insects and arthropods, but I know a little trivia and basic knowledge here and there about centipedes and beetles.
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>>34510049
arachnids have probocises? I thought they just uptake everything through their fangs?
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>>34510338
>tfw you didn't want to harm any bugs
>only pinned dead bugs I came across below streetlamps or the moulted exoskeletons

all of then were so warped and stiffened by rigor mortis that eventually I said fuck it and left them in a box to rot
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>>34512227
>tfw cucked by Chad Thunderflagella again

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>34518732
Not really. Plus I told you I'm putting myself through college. That shits expensive if I don't want to put myself horribly in debt.
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>>34508103
read my fanfic

https://www.fanfiction.net/u/6283037/sangheilitat1337
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>>34508103
Honestly they feel inadequate to arbitrary social standards of masculinity, and have yet to learn to cultivate themselves as individuals; rather than being dependent on the acceptance of others
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>>34508103
>why are there virgins
>literally everyone is getting laid
Troll or not you are a fucking retard and so is everyone who responded to this cancerous thread
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>>34519018
I respect that, bro. I do. But wouldn't it be better to get one full-time job instead of two part-times?
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>>34519080
>rather than being dependent on the acceptance of others
normalfags are even more dependent on others than any virgin NEET here, what are you talking about?
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>>34508103

If I'm brutally honest, I never even tried to speak to women. I just assumed I was unattractive and never tried. I feel like I just can't compete with other guys and women have absolutely no reason to be with me when they can get with Chad. I'm probably harshly critical of myself but I just feel like I have nothing attractive about myself and that there are thousands of other men within a 50 mile radius that are better than me. And guys objectively worse off than me that got gfs probably are good men that found good women while I'm just a quiet loser.

So if I'm 100% truthful, I feel like I don't deserve a gf.
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>>34513658
this is irrelevant because this is not from the year 2017.
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>never really had female friends
>too ugly to have success online
>the 2 girls i couldve fucked were drunk or in a predicament and i am not a rapist
>too shy to approach women at bars

there isnt someone for everyone. some people have serious disabilities, and while disabled females still get approached, disabled males do not.
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>>34513957
>"h-hi"
>"get away from me"
>"okay..."
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>>34508854
>although well above average
NO you are not you stupid fucking retard. CHAD is well above average. YOU are a chinless, jawless, boneless, ugly faggot who is coping at maximum levels. Post your face lmao.
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>>34511127
>post in thread
>post gets ignored because autists are talking about bugs
>thread lives again

Seriously though, how can I improve my situation here?
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>>34519390

Let me add that I can't read women so I can't tell when they're interested in me and that I'm too old to even start to try (26). I'm twice the age of most people itt right now, no woman can ever accept a KHV at that age. So it's too late for me. My chance came and went and now it's over. Just waiting to die now.
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>>34508103
Men are the ones who have to make the first move so if they don't have the confidence to do that, they're fucked.
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>>34509417
maybe if she put herself together nicely
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>>34519330
What is the cause of your social anxiety?
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>>34508103
>GuaranteedReplies.png

Girls these days prefer to do dating lite aka flirt around and have light foreplay with guys and then once they find their Chad they stick to him. If Chad leaves them they just repeat the process of finding beta orbiters and boy toys before they net themselves Chad.

This is why by the age of 26 I'm ready to push dating and romantic shit out of my life to focus on my career and money.
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I live in the midwest and 2/3 of women are fat, the rest are taken and I refuse to date a fat chick, if I can diet and lift then so can they, if not then I choose to be a bachelor for life over fucking a fatty.
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>>34509571
It's it amazing how things naturally work out so that in higher population density areas there's more sexual liberation? Rural areas are conservative and religious and have plenty of room for expansion and stick to a model that ensures maximum reproduction for all while in overpopulated cites birth control, abortion, and polyamorous harems around Chad are all normal.
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>>34508103
I get a pretty bad oneitis and my standards aren't that high, but I'm selective. I've had like 3 crushes the past 7 years and they were probably a 7, 5, and 6, but I'm 0/3 with them. I wouldn't say I'm shy, but I'm scared of initiating conversation, but if someone else starts, we can talk for hours.
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>>34519825
get some interests. like bugs.

I jest, but it's funny watching Chads drop everything and panic when a harmless centipede/mantis appears and you just scoop that motherfucker up and release him outside. bonus points when you have stories about stings. sounds autistic but for 5 seconds I was the alpha in the room.
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>>34508501
>There is someone for everyone so this isn't true.
I know I'm 15 hours late, but anyone who says this, go fuck a cactus.
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ALL these same fkin excuses everytime, just point to some of your flaws and then say "yea this makes me completely undesireabe, no point in doing anything."

Have any of you been able to admit to yourselves that you just don't want to try and you prefer being comfortable and lonely? No cause then youd have no right to whine about it constantly.

So incredibly tiresome yet im in the same boat so here the fuck I am.
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>>34508103
80/20 rule stuff is half true, it's around 20% of guys who can get sex easily and frequently with attractive women. However, male virgins over 18 are like 2% of men, it is incredibly rare to not have any sexual interaction by this age.
I'm almost 20 and still a virgin, reason being probably the same as most in my situation. Not good in social situations, retreat into solitary escapism, etc
It's also worth mentioning that you have to be around women to even have a shot, I basically only am in contact with women while at work and before that not at all since I finished school over a year ago.
I'm not sure it matters how you look, I dress nicely, am healthy over 6' and am told I'm not bad looking by any means. I just give off this aura of weirdo
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Being a computer engineer fucked me, there are like 5 girls I see everyday and they're gross or Asian. I hear about bio-e parties all the time meanwhile here in CoE, people come to class, don't talk to anyone, then go home. I wish I had the social skills to bullshit a business degree. Those people end up making more money than us anyway.
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>>34508103
Sex isn't nearly important enough to me for me to go out of my way to lose my virginity.

Loving relationship or bust.
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>>34509601
>I want women to give their power to me and seek my validation instead.

If you had any value, that would be happening.
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>>34520054
Truth is I don't know if I'm really undesirable or not. I've been told I'm attractive by strangers before, even been told that I'm a great person. Problem is that whenever I do get close to someone, be it a friend or gf, they always just leave for some stupid reason or no reason at all.

I'm not even autistic, I tend to make really strong connections with people, and so when they leave over nothing I spiral into depressive loneliness.

It's happened prolly 4 or 5 times over the course of the past 6 years. I guess some of us are just meant to be alone.
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>>34520907

Fucking goteem
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>>34508103
>why are there so many male virgins when literally everyone is getting laid

Analize what you just wrote. Don't see it?
Try again.
And again.
And again.
Keep doing it until the forehead-slapping realization comes.
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>>34508103
>"""Femanon"""
>'B-but n-none of that 80/20 truth stuff!'
Ok, dude, whatever.
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>>34519308
Wished I could get a job full time, but everywhere that pays worth a shit was only hiring part time so I've gotta make due with what I have.
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>>34508103
because i hate normies, the only people i like are shut ins so i never meet them
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I don't go outside or interact with anyone outside my immediate family, household and (small)workplace
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>>34518663
>>34521501
If the 80/20 rule is true how come I see ugly guys with super pretty girls? Checkmate, dumbass.
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>>34508564
>implying women see that shit when you talk to them.
All that matters is arrogance and inherent value.
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>>34523134
How do you know they are partners, and the guy is not just the ugly friend she likes to keep around? If they are partners, he could have achieved high social status by other ways. Or they simply are partners because all alpha males in her proximity are currently taken.

When you look at Macaque populations, the alpha males basically have two reproductive strategies. One is to monopolize the women and chase away the lower ranking males when they are trying to mate. The other is to mate as often as possible, by not wasting energy with disrupting lower ranking males trying to get their turn. Scientists are not sure if both are equally sucessful in terms of number of sired offspring, but since both can be observed in present-day Macaques, there seems to be no clear evolutionary disadvantage to either.
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>>34508103
I'm an ultra manlet who;s surrounded by tall North Easterners of Dutch descent. I've tried. I'm socialable and somewhat smart, but women don't want me.
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>>34514268
>work my entire life just to manage to attract one woman
>she ends up cheating on me with her Chad boss who's sleeping with like 6 other women
WHY THE FUCK IS THIS OKAY?
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>>34515478
Dude, the difference between a virgin female and a virgin male is night and day, that's a dumb comparison to make.

>>34515629
I'm not even necessarily talking about sex (although that's a factor too), but dating as a whole. I'm 26, at my age women are starting to look for guys they want to have long term relationships and stuff with. They're not going to want to waste their time on teaching a completely inexperienced person like me the ropes, whether it be in dating or sex.

Also you spent like half your post talking about dick size when I never said anything even close to that, it's kinda weird desu
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>>34524061
Hope you weren't married and won't have to lose half of your shit.
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>>34508103
Because I don't let myself get close to people, and I assume the same for others.
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>7/10 petite qt approaches me
>greets me and asks how im doing
>turn my head around, to check if she isnt talking to someone else
>6 seconds already passed
>we're both just standing there in silence
>i walk away real fast
in my defence, im 158cm and skinny as fuck you would have done the same
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>>34524253
if girls are approaching you, you have no excuse to be a robot.
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>>34524754
Doesn't mean anything

She could approaching him to ask him to do something for her, for example.
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>>34508103
>So many male virgins
>Literally everyone is getting laid.
Are you fucking retarded?
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>>34508103
>why are there so many male virgins when literally everyone is getting laid?

What did he mean by this???
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>>34509430
This

Origamio
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>>34509430
Honest question. Do you think you'd even be able to tell if a girl was interested in you?
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>>34508103

A generation raised on video games, porn, animation, and other male fantasies that deform the realities of the world.

Gee, I wonder why.
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>>34526243
What should one be looking for?
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>>34508103
I'm dumb and I'm weak, I don't think any girl this day in age wants someone like that.

Seriously, what girl likes dumb and weak men like me?

Its just not gonna happen. No girl wants to date a guy whose been in special education.
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>>34508103
Life isnt fair, some people dont get to ever walk or do a whole bunch of things. Its just the way it is
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>>34509417
Ive had 7/10 girl or two ask me for sex, i said no to both.

I hate myself
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>>34526281
I don't know. Which is why I can't say if a girl has ever been interested in me, and I think a lot of other people on this site can probably relate.
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>>34508103
So many people in this thread are using le "robots only want PERFECT girlfriends thats y u cant get laid retard xD". When will this meme end. All I want is a 6/10 fat gf. I work out and have a strong jawline, but I lack the social connections to ever even meet a girl. I haven't spoken to a woman my age in 3 years.
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>>34508268
>>34508289
>>34508298
>>34509832
>>34511184
>>34508598
>>34508690
>>34509515
>>34509601
>>34509832
>>34510229
>>34515568
>>34520002
I hate to break it to you, but you're all clinically retarded. There's no other explanation.
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>>34508501
Why dot you shut up, and go do your womanly role with a masculine man? Stop seeking attention from a cesspool of losers.
>There is someone for everyone
Back in the day (65 years ago) when women needed men. Now they are encouraged to emulate men, and they are failing at being women.
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>>34508698
I'm too old to be offended like an sjw by your bitchy mean comment. I wouldn't mind ripping you a new one if I saw you in the street though
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>>34508103
I will find you and hammer the body
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>>34524253
When & where did that happen?
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>>34526693
>le epic just world fallacy of "there's someone for everyone!!!!!!!!!!"
die
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>>34508145
Pretty much this

autism actually fucks you up, senpai
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>>34526938
What are you talking about? You're retarded because you fell for a piece of bait the size of the fucking Titanic, not because you're a depressed nogf virgin.
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>>34508501
My great uncle is 80 and has been single his entire life. I feel bad for him, especially since at family gatherings I'm the only one who will actively try to talk to him.
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>>34508103
OP are you dense? if you've spent any time on this board you should already know the answer to your question.
>Are they just shy, or seriously autistic?
well I guess you could say that, I cant speak for anyone else.
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>>34508103
>Are they just shy, or seriously autistic?
yes
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Girls don't want this body
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>>34510467
This, girls go wet for guys who are /fit/ and if you tell them you want to have 2+ kids they're going to have waterafll in their pants.
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>tfw hiv+
>tfw never had any type of sex or shared any needles
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>>34508982
this

originialo
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>>34508934
You're supposed to make some friends first, you idiot.
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>>34510673
>if every woman looks like Victoria Secret models, they will all be ugly
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>>34510342
yea really, like, I'm paying you bitch, pretty depressing when a whore doesnt wanna see you again at $200/hour
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>>34512955
>implying okcupid is representative of society
you're a funny one mate
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>>34513028
It is really pretty hilarious how fucking delusional you people are. Where do you come up with this bullshit? How do you make yourself swallow it? Do you ever even go outside?
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>>34513933
No bullshit to deal with other than your baseless hate.
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>>34528954
>go outside
this is a terrible argument
the other person may have a shitty argument as well but don't pretend you have some moral high ground when you're just spouting memes and empty platitudes
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>>34514268
Yes, please, continue citing an anonymous tinder 'study' as though it is fact about how society at large works. It's great to watch you make total idiots of yourselves.
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>>34514873
Sure, anon, everybody is always lying in these anonymous studies in ways that conveniently fit your bullshit narrative. Why would anyone trust science?
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>>34515012
I am a skinny long haired dude with a cold and stoic personality and I got a GF. Fuck off with your excuses.
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>>34516849
>used up
>roasties
>cock carousel
Yeah, people totally want to interact with hateful delusional idiots like you.
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>>34518663
Yeah, your meme gif really shows how your '80/20 rule' is real and not yet another piece of robot bullshit alternative facts.
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>>34508103
The 80/20 rule is true in that individuals who fall in that group have sex regularly.

A large percentage of men have frequent dry spells lasting several months or even a year or more, and another large percentage drastically lowers their standards to get into a relationship with fatties or women who rode the cock carousal when they were in their prime.
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>>34519168
That includes you, buddy :^)
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>>34519825
I think you need to keep trying to get better at socialization and practicing. Try different avenues too, like hobby clubs, to diversify and meet new people. Maybe see a psychologist and talk about your difficulty getting close to people.
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>>34519847
You're wildly overestimating how much women care that you're a virgin. I lost mine at 23 and it did not matter at all.
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>>34519867
DESU if you can't even fucking make the first move then you don't deserve a GF and shouldn't be complaining about not having one. You are not even a man.
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>>34520164
I wouldn't covet a job in business, with programming you get to do something interesting, intellectually challenging, and productive, rather than just trying to cheat people out of their money. Plus programmers are in enormous demand and get paid exorbitantly. Maybe not as much as businessmen but more than enough.

Anyway, you can develop your social skills and you can meet people outside your immediate environment. A job in computing is not a virginity sentence.
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>>34523872
Your theories are tiresome and empty. I personally know many couples in loving, long term relationships where the guy is in no way an 'alpha' or 'chad'. Male virginity and female virginity are equally rare in the mid 20s. The reason you're a virgin is because you don't try, not because of the vast normie chad conspiracy. Stop trying to shift blame.
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>>34524115
There really isn't much to 'teach'. As someone who lost his virginity at 23 and is now in a relationship of five years, I can tell you that general life experience, thoughtfulness, maturity, and kindness count for way more than experience when it comes to success in relationships.
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>>34526588
If that was 'all you wanted' then you would do the necessary work to achieve it. You need to MAKE those social connections instead of whining on 4chan.
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>>34529293
No overestimation, they hate virgins with a flaming passion
Look at JK Rowling who made fun of make virgins today
The shining light of feminism and moral standards to millions of women thinks virgin guys are a joke to be ridiculed

You have no idea what you're talking about it the horror of having to be alone with all of society considering you a joke.
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>>34512835
>Ask /g/ about women
O I am laffin. 10% false bravado, 90% virginal honesty like every other board here.
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>>34529060
I'm spouting reality.
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>>34508839
>self-reported studies are accurate

I, uh... hmm..that's a tough one
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>>34527394
What a load of bullshit
I am extremely natty but have an ugly face, i haven't met a girl in years, i'm also dead on tinder
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Why are you even asking us OP? You know this place is a gathering for people with serious mental issues who are souless husks trying to cling to any reason not to kill ourselves. You telling us that we are completely to blame for not realizing early in life that we were completely worthless people and trying to fix it before we died on the inside isnt doing anything
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>>34529558
YOU have no idea what you're talking about. There is no 'horror'. I was KV until age 23. I experienced ZERO grief about it. JK Rowling's tweet is not indicative of anything except for her giving a mean reply to a mean post. She's not some bully for responding to an insult with an insult. You are a sad, neurotic person and should consult a psychologist about your delusions.
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>>34529601
"Go outside" is not reality
It is not a good argument in the slightest
You have no empathy or knowledge of people
You are simply spouting bullshit you heard from someone else
Like there's someone for everyone
Just be itself
Love urself first
Be confident
Go outside
None of those are helpful for incels but you wouldn't know because you lack the empathy to out yourself in someone else's shoes for 10 seconds
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>>34529687
Just because you were able to grow into an emotionally healthy person who could deal with these things positively doesnt mean everyone else does
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>>34529687
>Everything was sunshine and rainbows for me so it was for you too
>A billionaire who prides herself on being a 'nice girl' but shames huge groups of people for the keks is just fine

You have no fucking clue kiddo
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>>34529293
>I'm a Chad and you should be too

Wow, so uplifting.
>>
I'm tall, fairly active and painfully shy and awkward. I was finally able to lose it but now it seems meaningless because there has to be a relationship that comes with it, and the girl has severe self-destructive emotional patterns that don't make me want anything to do with. I'm not even sure if I'm in a relationship.
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>>34508103
>School is like 60%+ females
>Only very few girls in CE/EE track
>do not share interests with them (or even the other guys they're friends with)

Ahhhhhh! Its all lies. Books, tv. other people's """"experiences"""". This was supposed to be fun, but its fucking not
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>>34514298
And that justifies her exploitative behavior? Please.
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>>34529745
>You have no empathy or knowledge of people
Utterly wrong. I have friends and a GF. I interact with people all the time at work. I was a teacher and a tutor.

>You are simply spouting bullshit you heard from someone else
No, that's what you guys do. I am telling you what I know from experience. All this shit about chad and stacy and orbiters and cock carousels and harems is the fucking dumbest shit I've ever heard and has no basis in reality.

>bunch of shit I never said
Nice strawman.
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>>34529746
What does that have to do with anything? I'm saying there is no huge virgin stigma. My emotional health has nothing to do with anything. If you are admitting that your 'virgin horror' is something that squarely resides in YOUR head, then that is very well and good.

>>34529798
She was not 'shaming huge groups of people for the keks', and the shit people post on 4chan is one hundred times worse than her lousy tweet. It is hilarious and sad how offended you people got over it, though. For a bunch of hateful shitflingers it's amazing how thin your skin is when someone dares call YOU a name.
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>>34529803
Yeah, good one. I love that this is your only defense when presented with something outside of your narrow little theory of lies. "OK CHAD". You're like broken records. If you knew the first thing about me you'd know I am in no way a Chad. But I know you'd never believe it because it doesn't fit your little narrative.
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>>34530248
having friends doesn't give you empathy anon
your inability to see things from someone else's perspective means you have no empathy. You fail to see why everyone's life is not like yours

just because you walked outside and women and friends threw themselves at you doesn't mean that works for us.
Just because you were raised in a positive feedback loop doesn't mean we weren't raised in a shitty negative feedback loop that's
impossible to escape in this social climate.

you also don't seem to understand what a strawman is. I gave examples of other platitudes similar to what you were spouting. empty words you tell yourself so you can feel like it's all fair and you got what you deserved. not that the game is rigged against large groups of people and you got lucky.
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>>34530352
you're a broken record too
you fail to see anything outside of your tiny world view and shut out anything people say because it doesn't suit you
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>>34530365
>you walked outside and women and friends threw themselves at you
Haha. No.

>raised in a positive feedback loop
NOPE.

Keep making your baseless assumptions about my life. I know that your "robot/normie" dichotomy is the only way you can shift all blame off of yourself. You pretend that you're the only people who ever suffer or struggle, and that the world is keeping you down, so that you don't have to confront that you are keeping yourself down.
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>>34529463
So what? Just because your anecdotal evince has these pairings, there necessarily isn't a structural problem? You claim I don't succeed with women because I don't try, because according to you, I just happen to be particularly lazy, denying that we could as well not be trying because the chances of success are neglectably small, or because me succeeding means taking away from a very limited pool of resources, denying someone else the chance to happiness.
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>>34530398
>you fail to see anything outside of your tiny world view and shut out anything people say because it doesn't suit you
Nah. That's you robots. I have a wide worldview. I recognize that not all women are empty attention-seeking whores looking for Chad. I recognize that not all normies are vapid drones following the latest fads. I recognize that not all people with jobs are slaves working for some imaginary Jew. I recognize that people are different, and cannot be reduced to stereotypes and imaginary rules and theories like you do. It is really funny that you accuse me of this shit when it is a perfect description of how robots operate on this board.
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>>34530445
it doesn't matter what I say because you're so stubborn and ingrained into your mindset that you'll flat out deny anything I say in an effort to be a cunt.

the fact is you have no empathy and are completely incapable of seeing things through someone else's eyes. Instead you spout memes and act like a complete bully around virgins on the internet in an effort to feel better about your self

you're a real piece of shit and I hope you're proud of yourself faggot
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>>34530446
>we could as well not be trying because the chances of success are neglectably small
No. Because this is what you tell yourself so that you can justify not trying. But really you are just dooming yourself to a life of misery.

>or because me succeeding means taking away from a very limited pool of resources, denying someone else the chance to happiness
This is a new one. I've never heard a robot claim that he's a virgin because he wants to let other men experience the joy of having a GF. I applaud you for your ingenuity in spinning bullshit.
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>>34530508
>it doesn't matter what I say because you're so stubborn and ingrained into your mindset that you'll flat out deny anything I say in an effort to be a cunt.
Yes, this is exactly true of you. You know yourself very well.

>the fact is you have no empathy and are completely incapable of seeing things through someone else's eyes
You keep telling yourself that. I know it's the only way you can deal with an opposing viewpoint.

>Instead you spout memes and act like a complete bully
No, that's what robots do.
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>>34530248
>i am telling you what i know from experience

Yeah, and WE are telling you from our own fucking experience, if you dont agree with us based on anecdotal evidence than fuck off. Yeah some of us go at other people out of nowhere but you doing makes you just as low as thise people
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>>34530311
I dont believe its horror either, however, dont tell us it isnt real, because for some people it is, an argument of "i dealt with it its not a real problem dude lmao" isnt a fucking argument when clearly it destroys so many people. Go act like a big boy and impress someone else with your stoic beliefs you pussy
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>>34530538
>This is a new one. I've never heard a robot claim that he's a virgin because he wants to let other men experience the joy of having a GF. I applaud you for your ingenuity in spinning bullshit.
No, I don't stand back to let other men succeed. I just don't see the point in wasting a lot of energy in an unnecessarily tiring struggle. The more people fail when I succeed, the tougher the competition is.
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>>34530585
I'm not 'going at other people out of nowhere' and I'm nothing like you people in terms of blind hate and vitriol. And, what is 'your own fucking experience'? Most of the people in this thread have not taken the necessary action to get a GF. They have given up and made excuses because that is the ethos of this board. Give up, make excuses, and pretend like the goal is both impossible to achieve and undesirable anyway. A combination of 'you can't get a GF if you're not Chad' and 'all women are vapid whores' is your medicine. What experience does that indicate? How many people on this board have actually worked for an extended period of time to meet and befriend other people, to develop their social skills, to make something of themselves in terms of education and career, to develop their bodies and appearance, to approach women and interact with them? Some have, I'll give you that, but the vast majority have not. I'm not pulling this out of my ass; I hear it all the time here. "Why try when success is impossible?" "Why try when women are garbage?" It's only impossible if you make it impossible, and you only pretend that they're garbage so you feel better about not trying.
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>>34530667
Sorry, pal, but how can you call me stoic and a pussy in the same breath? Do you not see the contradiction in terms? I'll grant you that a few kids get bullied in school about being virgins, but in adult life it is simply not what you are acting like it is. And the fact that you pull out the JK Rowling tweet as your golden piece of evidence really says a lot about how delusional you are. (Or the guy I was responding to.)

I'm guessing you're not that fellow, but he is clearly deranged. He has an inferiority complex about his virginity and he is acting like the world is out to get him for it, when really, it's only him that's doing it to himself. Virginity is the least of that guy's problems.
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>>34530778
And youve given up on trying to understand us, so just go away. We think all girls want chad and if youre not chad youre fucked and you think that everybody can be happy, we are all fucking nsrrow minded thats how the world works, you can only comment on what youve experienced, so just let us simmer in this cesspool of ours
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>>34530844
are you stupid enough to think it's all one person?
there's at least 3 people in the chain of posts you replied to
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>>34530712
>I just don't see the point in wasting a lot of energy in an unnecessarily tiring struggle
If you aren't desperately lonely, if you're fine being single for your entire life, then more power to you. I was alone until I was 23 and I was NOT happy about it. I spent a lot of energy to get a GF, and let me tell you, to me it was in no way a waste. Not only am I much happier with a GF, but I became a better person in other ways in my pursuit of that goal. I'm not saying it's for everyone, and if it's not a goal that you desire, then that's fine.
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>>34509417
No, I don't want to just throw away virginity on the first chance like that. Maybe I would change my mind if she were 8+/10, but that's not going to happen.
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>>34530778
I have lots of friends, the people at work invite me to things all the time and everyone i meet seems to enjoy my company

But whatever that special thing is that makes us human i dont have, i can be as nice as i want and make people laugh as much as i can but at the end of the day its not going to make them give a shit about me
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>>34530846
I haven't given up on trying to understand you. I understand you very well. By the way, I'm not Chad and I am well and truly living a good life. And no amount of telling me to go away will make me go away. I've been on 4chan for over a decade and your claiming of this board as your little safe space is laughable. This is not your cesspool. This is our cesspool.
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>>34530778
So how do you imagine society to look like when all lonely man suddenly stopped being defeatists? There must be tons of unsatisfied women just waiting eagerly for us to wake up. Reality is it's already hard for most men to find a gf, more man joining the party would just make it harder for everyone. It would only create more disharmony and divide.
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>>34530913
What do you mean by nobody giving a shit about you if they enjoy your company and invite you to things all the time?
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>>34530957
>he takes pride in hanging around the board that exists for virgin men to dump their feelings and frustrations
and you act like you're so high and mighty lol
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>>34508103
it really is the 80/20 rule thing though lmao

women fuck chads lmao

when you say 'everyone is getting laid' you mean the normies aka 70+ percentile of men are

but everyone whos on this site is probably way below 40
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>>34530957
You're kidding yourself if you think the losers on /r9k/ trying to get GFs for a change is going to adversely affect society somehow. The number of men in the world is roughly equal to the number of women, and men get laid and get GFs all the time. The chart posted here tells you as much:
>>34513658
Only four percent of men in their late 20s are virgins. And this is only hetero virginity; many of those are undoubtedly gay and not actually virgins.
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>>34530974
They just like my presence, they see me as just a dog to keep them entertained. They dont care, they never ask about anything personal, they never help me when something happens to me and they ignore me whenever something actually important needs to be discussed. They just want me to get drunk and make jokes while they be humans amongst themselves
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>>34530985
You don't get it. This board does not exist for you. It exists for everyone. This is not /virgin9000/. It's a general discussion board and that's all it ever was.
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>>34531064
How many of the non-virgins resorted to prostitutes or passed-out sluts?
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>>34531071
I don't know you or your life but to me it sounds like you are projecting your insecurities onto these relationships and reading things into them that are not there.
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>>34531109
I don't know, but I would bet very few. If you have statistics, I would love to see them.
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>>34531064
>Only four percent of men in their late 20s are virgins

There is no way its that low, the real number is probably like 25% because no man over 18 will admit to being a virgin, not even on a survey. Its like coming out as a serial killer or child rapist. Shit, I know if I'm not getting laid then a large number of men aren't either unless they are fucking 1/10s.
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>>34530947
No, you dont, we dont understand you, thats whats wrong with us. we dont understand people, you understand us about as well as the squirrels outside.

>>34530844
Exactlt hes fucked in the head, like most of us, so why waste your time trying to talk to us?
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>>34531103
wrong
wrong wrong
it existed as an experiment board for auto-moderation and forced originality years back
it was then scrapped
but the user base that had developed here, the "feelsposters", the lonely virgins and awkward guys, they went ot other boards
you can't get rid of a userbase my taking away the board
the rest of 4chan got so sick of the feelsposting that they asked moot to bring it back

this is that 2nd incarnation of r9k, the containment board for vrigins and depression and feels posting
that exists for people to vent and shout and yell without disturbing the other people in other boards
it isn't some noble discussion board, there's nothing to discuss but depression, and you don't seem to want to discuss that at all
you seem to be offended that not everyone is as cheery as you, that not everyone has had the same lucky experiences as you.
this is not your board, this isn't anyone's board
it's a fucking containment area and designated dumping ground for virgins related feels
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>>34531168
What about women living longer than men? When the number of males and females is roughly equal, there should be more men than women in the younger age range.
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>>34531173
You're a fucking retard, man. I was a virgin until age 23 and I did not keep it a secret whatsoever, much less on an anonymous survey. It really says a lot about how out of touch with reality you are that you look at a statistic like that and conclude that 25% of men lied about being virgins, and that you think it's in any way comparable to being a serial killer or child rapist. No wonder you're not getting laid; you're completely out of your mind.
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>>34531145
Maybe, but it doesnt change the fact that try to ask these guys to do stuff i like or talk to girls romantically and i get shut down immediately
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>>34531064
Come on, this is a fucking stupid post.

>The number of men in the world is roughly equal to the number of women, and men get laid and get GFs all the time.

This part in particular is especially bad, because the majority of the women are getting laid with the minority of the men.

I'd be more interested in seeing numbers of how many "non-virgins" had sex once or twice and it hasn't happened again in years
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>>34531225
you seem pretty out of touch that you think your anecdotal evidence is any better than our anecdotal evidence
all things considered our evidence is as valid as yours and we have a shitload more of it than you
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>three of my older succubus coworkers have independently asked me if I had a girlfriend
>say, "oh, really?" or something to that affect when I say no, never

Maybe I put on a better face than I realize but I can't act on it beyond what's necessary for work lol. Finally reached the point on no return this year (20)
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>>34531217
This is a general discussion board and no matter how much you try to spin your narrative that it secretly belongs to you, anyone with half a brain can tell that it doesn't. Nothing in the board's description or rules fits your little theory. This is everyone's board and I am happily going to stick around here regardless of how much you retards squawk at me.
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>>34531222
The number of men and women is roughly equal at each age range. Look up the statistics. It's a few percentage points' difference.
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>>34531225
"Serial killer or child rapist" is a ridiculous exaggeration to be sure, but it's definitely a thing worthy of extreme social ostracizing; especially to women (and not even women you're trying to date).
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>>34531282
20 is not the point of no return yet

That's more like 24 or 25

source: I'm 26
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>>34531254
One, keep trying. Two, find other friends if these friends are so shallow. At least you're making some progress and doing better than most of these nincompoops. I think your theory that there is some magic thing wrong with you that no one could possibly care about you is a pile of shit. Maybe you happened into the wrong group of people.
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Why is it so hard to believe a small amount of men are fucking the majority of women, at least desirable women? I remember they did an STD survey in a really black ghetto area of the US. What they found is that for every 10 women, 8 had an STD, but for every 10 men only 2 had an STD. That's reality my friend.
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>>34531262
>the majority of the women are getting laid with the minority of the men
Give me a single piece of evidence to support this. I know you can't.
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>>34531312
This is a map of my country for the 18-29 age rang, red means 100 women for 115 men. That isn't a few percent point. Basically women concentrating in urban areas, to, well, you don't want me to say fuck Chad, but what else is realistically happening there?
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>>34531277
No, your evidence is not as valid as mine, because your evidence is based on your imaginings and neuroses rather than fact, and because I have interacted with way more people than you and have a much better conception of how people act, because I have seen many more instances of it.
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>>34531282

Thing is, almost anyone can get a "gf". Almost every single person on this board could get a gf tomorrow. I said a "gf", not an attractive gf. The vast majority of men in the US are dating chubby 3 - 4/10's.
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>>34531363
My whole life ive been around the wrong people? Thats magical thinking aswell
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>>34531429
my evidence is based on my interactions with people
it's therefore as valid as yours
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>>34531345
Well, I don't have the motivation to change and the circumstances for me to have lost my virginity haven't arisen yet so I might as well be 25 or whatever.

I plan on dying at 25 anyway, virgin or not
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>>34531407

Women love big cities. In a city you can be a slut all you want and go undetected. In a smaller town your reputation gets out very fast, rumors spread, there is no hiding.
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>>34531323
Fuck no it isn't. I'll tell you again: I was KV until 23. Never kept it a secret. Never received ONE OUNCE of social ostracizing. Never heard of anyone I know receiving ONE OUNCE of social ostracizing about it, and I know some fucking virgins, man. Nor did the women I was trying to date give a single fuck about it. Keep telling yourself stories about how disastrous being a male virgin is, but I know that it's yet another way to convince yourself that it's impossible to succeed so you might as well not try.
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>>34531375
>Why is it so hard to believe a small amount of men are fucking the majority of women, at least desirable women?
Because it's patently false to anyone who has interacted with more people than his fucking mother in the past decade, or anyone who has seen any statistics about sex and relationships.
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>>34531440
Which is not something I would do. I mean, if her personality fit my criteria, maybe, but even so, probably not.
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>>34531407
>you don't want me to say fuck Chad, but what else is realistically happening there?
You're a straight up retard, pal.
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>>34531398
http://www.girlsaskguys.com/sexual-behavior/a22977-girls-on-tinder-do-smash-a-lot

>We asked questions to 300 guys and 300 girls who use tinder about their sexual experiences. >They were easy to find since it seems to be extremely popular with people from ages 18 to 35! >Here are some results that surprised me.

>- Unlike I thought, 240 of the 300 girls actually had sex through tinder! >Only less than 50 of the 300 men, which is remarkable.

In addition, see attached image where even women admit that this is the case
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>>34531440
There are simply not that many "chubby 3-4/10s" that the "vast majority of men" would be dating them. You have no idea what you are talking about and are demonstrating the same tired old robot fallacy as half the other people in this thread: "it's not worth it, because I could only possibly ever succeed with someone I had no attraction to, so I might as well not try".
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>>34531494
>just because in my particular case something happened, that means in all related cases the same must be true

Well, no, that's wrong. To so a virgin could never be ostracized for being a virgin is as unfounded as saying all virgins are ostracized. There is a middle ground
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>>34531445
Like I said, I don't know you or your life. But I find it incredibly hard to believe that no one you've been around your whole life has cared about you, especially with your stories about how sociable you are. I find it much easier to believe that you have a weird neurosis around this shit, because lots of people have weird neuroses about this kind of shit. Consider a psychologist.
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>>34531615
*say
Not "so"
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>>34508103
For some reason I've just never wanted to have sex, the thought just deeply disgusts me. I'm not asexual though, since I still jerk off to hentai and shit
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>>34531578
You are a living joke. Your evidence is an ANONYMOUS POST and an ANECDOTE. Please stop posting.
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>>34531494
Come on, being a virgin is a pretty big red flag for any potential woman, her finding that out is like the fastest way to get her to lose any possible interest in you.

And virgin is basically the go-to general insult for a lot of people, even fucking JK Rowling uses it.
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>>34531667
"LA LA LA LA if I don't listen it isn't real"

What makes you think those kind of 80/20 type stuff isn't happening? You said to post proof, so I did. What proof do you have that it isn't?
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>>34531710
>Come on, being a virgin is a pretty big red flag for any potential woman, her finding that out is like the fastest way to get her to lose any possible interest in you.
And yet the woman I lost mine to at 23 didn't give a fuck. And yet my buddy who is a virgin and older than that had a girl all over him who was well aware that he was a virgin.

The only reason virgin is a go-to insult is because you people are so fucking obsessed with it.

>>34531742
You didn't post proof. You posted an anonymous post about Tinder, and an anecdote. Please try harder.
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>>34531742
The 'proof' would have to be from NYT or HuffPo for him to believe it
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>>34531801
Yes, please jack off your buddy over there, who thinks that an anonymous post about Tinder from a self-proclaimed 'sexologist' is evidence of anything other than his own retardation. Maybe you two can bond over your hatred of left wing politics and lose your anal virginities to each other.
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>>34531517

You are aware that it's heavily stigmatized for men to admit that they're virgins, right?
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>>34531710
>even JK rowling uses it

She acts like an immature child though.
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>>34531791
2 cases out of how many? It's great you're not a virgin anymore but your anecdotal information isn't helping convince anyone the 20/80 rule isn't at least partially true
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>>34531830
I am aware that virgins on /r9k/ are deeply self-conscious and have massive inferiority complexes. I am also aware that I was a virgin well into my 20s and have friends who are still virgins in their late 20s and none of us has received a fucking ounce of stigma about it.
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>>34531791
>And yet the woman I lost mine to at 23 didn't give a fuck. And yet my buddy who is a virgin and older than that had a girl all over him who was well aware that he was a virgin.
Nobody's saying you can't find women who don't consider it a red flag. But they're not the norm. I once read an article a woman wrote where she was ready to have sex with a guy, literally in his bed all naked and everything, then he happened to mention it was his first time during the foreplay and she immediately bailed.

>The only reason virgin is a go-to insult is because you people are so fucking obsessed with it.
What kind of stupid logic is this? It's inherently seen as a negative thing in society, hence the usage as an insult.

>>34531822
I'm actually a leftist Berniebro
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>>34531863
She writes like one too
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>>34531864
There is no 'at least partially true'. The rule is either true or it is false. It's a simple statement. And it is complete baseless bullshit. You can believe it if it makes you feel better about not putting any effort into your life, but that does not change that it is bullshit.
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>>34531890
> I once read an article a woman wrote where she was ready to have sex with a guy, literally in his bed all naked and everything, then he happened to mention it was his first time during the foreplay and she immediately bailed.
This is literally you: "I read one story online about one woman who did not want to have sex with a virgin." Who gives a shit? Why are you obsessing over this one article? Have you considered that you need psychological help for your neurosis?
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>>34531917
If it was worth putting effort in, maybe I would. I'm not getting anything out of it, besides death and I get that no matter what I do. I don't care if girls have literally miles worth of dicks through their pussies or if my dick would fall off if I never used it properly.

All desire to have sex is instinctual/biological. Beyond that, abstaining either because you can't get puss or because you choose not to for some higher reason does separate from the neurotypical humans of the world. Whether they stigmatize you or not is up to them but the basis for stigmatization is there, and often used. Similarly to how 'slut' used to mean something other than the majority of women today
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>>34531937
It was a really fucked up article

http://www.xojane.com/it-happened-to-me/it-happened-to-me-i-ended-up-in-bed-with-a-27-year-old-virgin

Like it's literally all of my exact worst fears and anxieties 100% confirmed. She literally had a guy she incredibly liked, and she turned him down 5 seconds before sex because he was a virgin
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>>34531937
This is literally you
>i did something once so you must be able to recreate that result, even without my specific set of circumstances

Who gives a shit? Why are you obsessing over this one anecdote? Have you considered that you need psychological help for your neurosis?
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>>34531667
You can't study statistics Scientifically, you need anecdotes to fuel them.
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>>34531578
That article has been proven FAKE by the way.

Nice try, though.
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>>34531791
>>34531822
>>34532345

TO EVERYONE SAYING THAT THE 80/20 STUFF IS JUST BULLSHIT AND CALLING OUT MY POSTS AS NOT REAL

HERE IS A PEER REVIEWED STUDY ON TINDER BY CORNELL UNIVERSITY

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1607.01952v1.pdf

You will find many great tidbits of info within, such as that the average man gets 2.8 swipes back for every 1000 swipes he sends out.
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>>34508245
>Not all girls want Chad

T. Failed Normie

Seriously, that's as bad as "just b ur self lol"
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>>34532418
It's like saying "Not all employers want the best employee"

Like if they had to hunt them down, sure. But they get the "resumes" delivered to to their door, so why settle for second best?
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>>34531878
>no woman has touched you with a barge pole for nearly 3 decades
>no stigma

Hmm, perhaps we just found the reason for your virginity...
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>>34532882
>openly tell people that you're a virgin
>still remain a virgin
>"how on earth did this happen? it can't be because society shuns virgins, that'd be ridiculous!"
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