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Reminder that Identity politics on both the left and the right

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Reminder that Identity politics on both the left and the right are a bourgeois tool used to divide the working class.


How to spot idpol:

>My ethnic/racial/gender group is being destroyed by x group so all people of x group should die/be oppressed

If your belief corresponds with this, you need an immediate de-spooking.
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Reminder that class politics on the left and right is a jew tool to divide the white race
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>>34481450

De-spooking fo sho
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>>34481450
Diversity causes conflict. "Workers" have no unifying culture, and are just a collection of people who happen to have a job.
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>>34481516
>white race
how can you divide what doesn't exist?
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it's always lame white upper middle class people from the Midwest who are against identity politics because they themselves are boring and have no identity and wish everybody would ditch theirs and turn humanity into a giant boring cheese eating culture less blob that watches Packers games on Sunday

No thanks!
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>>34481450
People on the left can take it too far, but when you realize how intrinsically tied class and race are in countries like the US, you better understand the class dynamics. There's a reason that social and economic views tend to slide together and that's because they're inherently related.
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>>34481585
Class doesn't exist, race does. There's no biological base for the concept of class whatsoever.
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Why would whites be against our own identity? Why would be be against our own people? Why would we be against our own countries?

The two top panels are not analogous. These are our countries, we don't have to castrate ourselves.
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Am I really working class if I don't work?
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>>34481634
>There's no biological base for the concept of class whatsoever.
I never visit this board and hahaha you guys are retarded. I know of no one to state otherwise.
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>>34481450

>talks about de-spooking while being a communist

el oh el
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>>34481683
I'm materialist, I believe in scientific facts like biology, not social concepts made up by outdated 19th century sociologists blinded by enlightenment literalism.
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>>34481450
This is is dumb because Marx wrote about how the Prussian empire should invade France and how Slavs and asians were inferior and incapable of communism
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>>34481683
You should keep not visiting this board, then. Otherwise, you might end up retarded like us!
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>>34481649
>black people sticking to the ghetto
>bad

pretty sure that's not the entire country of france in that picture
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>>34481808
>ghettoes existing
>good
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>>34481808
It's bad because they shouldn't be in the country at all.
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>>34481516
>He thinks rich whites care about poor whites
L O L

Reminder that communism is the most pro-white ideology
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>>34481450
>le epic centrist stance
Fuck off you subversive leftist pile of trash.
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>>34481450
The left's "identity politics" just an outgrowth of the Marxist victim complex where the working class just gets replaced by women, blacks, etc It's the exact same shit, peddled to the exact same end. The difference between your imaginary ye olde left and the new one is non-existent.
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>>34481634
>people's relation to the means of production doesn't exist
WEW
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>>34481634
>>34481730
There is no biological basis for race, anon. None.
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>>34481730
>being a materialist who doesn't believe society has a class structure
uwot. What kind of half asses shitty wikipedia materialist are you? What about caste society?
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>>34481943
Where do children's racial traits come from if not the biology of their parents? The great random number generator in the sky?

Race not existing is the most pathetic psyop of all time.
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>>34481943
Why are black people black, then? Do they color them at birth?
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>>34481516
>Yeah lets just remove the jewish rulling class and have a white rulling class for of strong aryan daddies.

Top cuck.
>>34481916
>Marxism victim complex
>all that projecting.
Yeah man, people being exploited and having their economical interests fucked over is just a huge victim complex, how about you actually read some fucking Marx instead of spouting memes.
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>>34481994
It exists it's just that many are genetically closer to people of other races than of the same "race".
Our current categories and the ones most popularly used are incorrect, based off old data and visual clues. While these things are real in a sense, the way we frame them we imagine them as being something entirely different from what they are to fit in with the mainstream ideologies of the day. This is the way that race does not exist.
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>>34481994
There's more genetic variation within populations than there are between them, anon.
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>>34482011
>clines are the same thing as race.
shiggy my diggy
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>>34482048
>it doesn't exist but it really kind of does but no wait it doesn't really

Take your schizophrenia medications and fuck off back to /leftypol/
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>>34482081

>muh clines
read a book
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>>34482081
You've got to accept reality, and your ideology which effects your perception of reality, are not perfectly in tune. You are imagining things, because it is essential for your ideology to survive.
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Martyr Muammar Gaddafi~

/LP/
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>>34482074
That's literally what race is.
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>>34482155
No it's much more complicated than you insist. Not everything is in actuality so simple a grade school child could get it.
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I'll become a communist the day IQ results for all races are published to be equal when controlling for SES factors.

And when niggers stop looking like ape people.
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>>34482036
>i can only imagine myself as a victim of hierarchy

did daddy cuck you?
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>>34482191
In this case, it actually is simple. Race is a collection of genes, some of which produce visible characteristics.
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>tfw commie
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>>34481994
There is no racial traits. Modern genomics do not vindicate race realism. About 85% of genetic variation in humans takes place within populations. 15% of variation is between continental groups. On average, humans are 99.5% similar to each other so that is how the .5% of variation is distributed. While it's possible that the 15% of .5% holds some illusive nigger gene, most of the genes we've discovered relating to the variation between continental groups are related to the immune system, build, etc. Psychologist like Richard Lynn and Phillip Rushton are not authorities on human genetic variation, geneticists are. Clusters do not vindicate race realism because they are not discrete genetic clusters. How a cluster is formed depends on variables set by the researcher.
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>>34482036
>how about you actually read some fucking Marx instead of spouting memes.

Yeah, I'm sure all serious students of Marx are shitposting retarded oversimplifications of his theories on an internet board full of angry virgins.

Also:

>economical interests

Maybe you should have started with basic literacy instead of jumping straight into Marx?
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>>34482228
what happens when that "collection" is mixed with another? what happens when you don't have a clue what their genetic code looks like? what happens when you're so dumb that you think race is a more important qualifier than competency?

there's a reason that the people you represent are nearly extinct :)
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>>34482295
If your science doesn't match up to what is easily observable, then your science needs work. It's obvious that race exists. What you're saying is equivalent to "well you might think gravity pulls downward, but if you look closely, it actually pulls up!" You can come up with whatever numbers you want to back it up, but it's still obviously wrong.
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>>34482295
>look how these distinct population groups cluster together can't you see they don't always cluster so neatly there fore there are no distinct populations period

Getting desperate /leftypol/!
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>>34482332
>what happens when that "collection" is mixed with another?
An unfortunate thing.

>what happens when you don't have a clue what their genetic code looks like?
You look with your eyes and estimate.

>what happens when you're so dumb that you think race is a more important qualifier than competency?
Race and competency are strongly correlated, and race is trivial to identify, whereas competency requires testing.
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>>34482220
It's a shame that's mostly irrelevant to the point at hand. The anti-racism of communism is hardly the central point, instead you'll often hear it said that racism is just not very useful as after achieving a classless society, any minority groups having behavioural problems would become more of a minor disturbance than anything due to the unnatural escalation and ideologies perpetuated by the bourgeoisie. It's a scale thing. Even if blacks were as bad as /pol/ makes them out to be, it would be nowhere near the horror thrust into our tight poop holes daily by the propertied classes.

>>34482228
Genetics is actually very complicated though. People dedicate years of their life to understanding it, and we're nowhere near knowing everything there is to know about it.
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Goddamn these thread makes me want to stamp some communist skulls into concrete.

I could be a pacifist were it not for you parasitic, nation wrecking bastards and your bullshit hebrew economic theory.
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>>34482394
>due to the unnatural escalation and ideologies perpetuated by the bourgeoisie --being put to an end--
Sorry about that. Forgot part of my sentence.
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>sieze the means of production
>uhoh the dipshit government doesn't know how to run this business, and the commies have never had a real job before
>economy collapses
>toilet paper is rationed
>customs agents arrest you for trying to smuggle in cheap toilet paper made in capitalist pig countries

Venezuela is doing great. Why don't you guys move there and help out your comrades?
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>>34482394
>Genetics is actually very complicated though. People dedicate years of their life to understanding it, and we're nowhere near knowing everything there is to know about it.
That's nice, but it's irrelevant to this conversation. Fluid dynamics are also very complicated, but people have been making boats for thousands of years.
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>>34482399
>Goddamn these thread makes me want to stamp some communist skulls into concrete.

edgy

>I could be a pacifist were it not for you parasitic, nation wrecking bastards and your bullshit hebrew economic theory.


Not an argument
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>>34481570
Conflict is everywhere. The only unifying thing, is conflict. IMO, the most positive conflict we can have atm, is class conflict.
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>>34482155
>That's literally what race is
No it's not.
Try again
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>>34482399
Are you proud to have never read a book in your life?
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>>34482441
It literally is an argument. If someone's ideology is ruining your country, you should remove that person from your country.
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>>34482425
>Venezuela
>Communism
I suppose Sweden is communist too
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>>34481868
Nah it's only karma for fucking up their countries
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>>34481450
>>34481585

Fuckoff leftypol, go shill someother place.
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>>34482394

Bullshit, a beige, international, raceless, rootless and standardised proletariat is at the heart of communism, and thus so is anti-racism.

Your ideology is bullshit, Hitler was right and so was pinochet.
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>>34481730
>employers and employees don't exist because they're not rooted in biology
WEW
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>>34482449
Why shouldn't the most competent people get the most resources?

>inb4 capitalist success is no guarantee of competence

Reforming capitalism is simpler than abolishing it and trying something which has ended badly 100% of the time (communism).
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>>34482379
>estimating a gene sequence with your eyes
*claps*

>strongly correlated
i'm p. sure the vast majority of whites are just as retarded as blacks. it might be interesting to talk about why white and asian cultures have the greatest individuals, but if i saw a random white or asian dude on the street i would assume he's done nothing in his life that i would respect.

i'm all for being honest about patterns and not caring if someone is offended. i believe in the scientific method. people like you are no better than radical muslims though.
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>>34482295
>There is no racial traits.
Lmao NO ONE actually believes this shit except for redditors on the internet. The same way nobody believes the different races are different species or w/e like storm niggers do.

Remember to ignore insane race denialists and insane race "realists" alike friends.
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>>34482439
>people make boats
>so genetics is so simple a child can understand it
If you want to ever be truly liberated you must learn to accept there are things you know nothing about. Until then, you will be left still not understanding these things, free to be used as a tool for anyone who can tap this impotent emotional reaction you're always having.
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>>34482348
I'm sorry that modern genomics are conflicting with your worldview. Race realist like you are not simply asking us to acknowledge variation between continental groups. You are insisting any variation, no matter how it is vindicates race realism. You are asking us to disregard all our other theories about how civilization develops, trade, animals available for domestication, disease etc in favor of elusive nigger/kike/aryan genes that supposedly exist because you tested the IQ of 100 Somalian refugees who don't speak English.

Just to give you an example of how shitty race realist science is, take a look at the "national datasets" used by Richard Lynn in his book "IQ and the Wealth of Nations". Half of the data was made up, or should I say it was estimated using average IQ's of neighboring countries with extremely small sample sizes.

http://www.nature.com/hdy/journal/v92/n4/full/6800418a.html

>>34482362
That isn't what I said moron.
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>>34482461

I've read capital, communist manifesto, some Engels, a ton of khmer rouge literature, imperialism, some Stalin and Trotsky.

And I read these things when I didn't hate communism with a passion its probably not possible to put into words.
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>>34482463
No it wasn't an argument. You just mad a bunch of ad hominem and strawmen.
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>>34482455
Look, race is inherently obvious. If you can't tell a black person from a white person based on how they look, you need to get your eyes checked. Combine that with the fact that looks are determined by genes, and you have my previous argument. I couldn't give less of a shit about dates and theories and people. Use your fucking head.
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>>34482465
>i love communism except when people actually try it then i stop calling it communism and change the subject
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>>34482516
Race exist or it doesn't. The traditional racial categories are either biologically relevant or they are not. There is not a middle ground.
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>>34482489
Right.
>I've never read anything. Ever. Yet I'm aware of what things mean
You have this idea in your head of what something means, put in your head by the enemies of this thing. Yet you somehow believe this unresearched flippancy towards facts is somehow understanding reality?
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>>34482509
>capitalism hasn't ended badly 100 percent of the time
Capitalism is a limping dog that needs to be put down. The reason it's never "failed" is because the ruling class refuses to let it die when the market crashes. Failure is built into the system itself.
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>>34482489
>Pinochet

WEW
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>>34482535
Whatever you want to call it, it's legitimate. Enjoy being physically removed.
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>>34481634
Check out this libertarian!
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>>34482544
Clines are obvious, you moronic stool pigeon. Clines are not race.
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>>34482570
Capitalism is working great right now.
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>>34482509
>Why shouldn't the most competent people get the most resources?
Shareholders are probably the least competent segment of the population. http://www.reuters.com/investigates/section/the-cannibalized-company/

>Reforming capitalism is simpler than abolishing it and trying something which has ended badly 100% of the time (communism).
I would say reforming is a good start, but I think our political economy has reached a point where that is near impossible. I do however think there's a lot we can learn about what not to do from the past experiments at communism.
I recommend reading these if you're interested in the topic.
http://digamo.free.fr/nove91.pdf
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.466.2467&rep=rep1&type=pdf
https://s3.jacobinmag.com/issues/jacobin-abcs.pdf
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>>34482557

>be a hardline marxist ideologue
>kill a few million people in the pursuit of marxist utopia
>not real communism
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>>34482530
Reading and reading comprehension are entirely different things. What is your issue with Marxian economics? Does the focus on materialism hurt your feelings?
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>>34481839
You see more deformed looking people in white badlands. You see more out of shape, pallid white kids and plenty of white trash in suburbs.

i think most people are more concerned with preserving good over bad than white over black.
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>>34482578

Bullshit, economy improved under pinochet. I used to believe all this stuff, and didn't care because I think there is more to humanity than just economics. But then I learnt it's bullshit and marxist lies so whatever.
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>>34482613
Until the next financial meltdown, you mean.
Kicking the can down the road is what capitalism is.
Also, it works great for a small minority. World wide, people end up getting fucked.
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>>34482530
>khmer rouge literature
wew lad

>>34482557
>Call something communism because you have no understanding of politics
>Someone points out that's not correct
>"No true Scotsman LOL"
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>>34482613
>says the increasingly nervous CEO for the 10th time today
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>>34482518
>Karl (((Marx)))
>white
Bow down and worship your Jewish master, /r9k/.
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>>34482665
No, it did not. 48% of the population was below the poverty line under Pinochet. What is a "strong economy" for you? One where people are taken of, or one where a few people get rich at the expense of everyone else?

To all the libertarians in the thread, reminder that Says Law is WRONG.
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>>34482425
>SOCALESUM IS WEN DA GUBBAMENT DUGHS STAUFF
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If race is so irrelevant for Communists why does every /leftypol/ shill thread 90% revolve around race, defining it, redefining it?

They're more obsessed than stormfagz
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>>34482684
>Also, it works great for a small minority. World wide, people end up getting fucked.
I'm in that minority. Again, it works great right now.
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>>34482636

I think fascism is infinitely preferable because it's more in tune with nature and the truth. As opposed to the mediocre, raceless Marxist rule of the most over the rule of the best. Just a stupified mass being convinced to kill the most productive sections of their society. Marx caricatures of the ruling classes in Capital always come to mind when I see some dribbling antifa retard burning a police car and working to undo whatever little stability they have left in their world. I also believe in private property and the right of all nations to borders.
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Can you tell a black person from a white person? Answer honestly.
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>>34481450
It looks like Marx is ass fucking those two at the top
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>>34482749
A broken door handle might benefit a retard because it give him something to play with. Doesn't mean the door handle works.
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>>34482708
I'd rather have no master, be he white or Jewish
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>>34482774
Meant to respond to >>34482604
Again, tell the truth.
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>>34482684
human nature is kicking the can down the road. capitalism motivates people to give each other what they want. it's not like there's an alternative anyway. socialists still operate like capitalists with more arbitrary rules for trade.
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>>34481450
being a NEET don't make you a worker anon, get out of your mother's basement
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>>34482757
>Worshiping the State and believing it embodies the best qualities of the individual so nothing can be above it is more in tune with nature
>Fascism
>Stability when they had to purge huge sections of their society and steal resources from other nations t sustain themselves

Whatever you say, bootlicker.
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>>34482787
Analogies are stupid. Talk about the actual thing.
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>>34482665
>Bullshit, economy improved under pinochet.
hmmmmmm
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>>34482787
you made the false assumption that a door handle only has one function. this is why you are poor.
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>>34482815
Yes, because those are clines.
Christ, how do I spell this out for you?
Clines are not race, you cock gargling water head.
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Daily reminder that the rise of the alt-right and pro-nationalism in general is all thanks to SJWs and their screeching. Hypocrites!
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>>34481994
>i dont understand population genetics
>feels>reals

get a load of this guy
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>>34482888
I don't give a shit about your "clines". Race is a useful term.
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>>34482530
ill take things that never happend
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Social Democracy > Everything
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>>34482821
>s-stop blaming systematic problems. it's just h-human nature!
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>>34482757
Right exactly like I thought. All the fascist literature I've read is garbage mysticism. The "Doctrine of Fascism" was far from compelling, "Mein Kampf" was obtuse. Condreau is kind of fun to read because he writes well, and his incoherent ramblings can carry some weight. The fact that fascism is more or less, mysticism is exemplified by your objections to Marx. They're based around a "race" that isn't biologically grounded, objections to real material relationships and a just as irrational inalienable and sacrosanct inalienable right to private property.

Also, what caricatures of the ruling class? Do you mean the countless parliamentary hearings, responses to legislation (like the rotation of workers to get around the factory act), the way the poor laws heavily benefitted the ruling class? The way Marx showed using empirical evidence (How can one forget the bourgeoisie musings of the writer of "The Essay on Trade and Commerce") how the struggle between the proletariat and bourgeoisie reciprocate? The conditions of the workhouses, purposely made odious by parliament to prevent workers from leaving their job? What is your objection, state it specifically. Your critique just sounds like the same one I've heard over and over.
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>>34482747
>2 /pol/yps keep spazing out about muh white race
>everyone else calls them out as retards
>"lol why are commies so obsessed with race?"
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>>34482932
Unsustainable.
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>>34482619
So many Commie cuties. I know a couple too.

It's a shame that I'm just a mere SocDem and can never get them to realize that the crimes of Capitalism do not justify the criminalization of private enterprise and innovation, as well as losing it's check on the corruption of Public power.
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>>34482944
The entire op starts from a position of race not being real or being used to divide, YOU are the obsessed ones my friends race denialists are the same shit as race "realists" now gtfo /r9k/ and back to plebbit
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>>34482839

You pretend like Marxists are saintly beings incapable of violence in the pursuit of applying their ideology.

State imposed mass multiracialism is unforgivable, and is the clearest example of the application of Marxist internationalism in modern times. Look how vehemently the left defends this frankensteins monster. They barely care about economics and class anymore, unless they're talking with other ideologues. It is difficult to argue politics with a Marxist as there's almost two different languages being spoken, one is pragmatism and common sense, this other is utopian theory.

I don't think fascism depends on colonialism, the far left has had decades to grow beyond its starvation genocides and purges, whilst the right is still being held to account for building train tracks in somalia. Japan doesn't pracice colonoaism and its practically an ethnostate.
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>>34482934
yes because the current economic philosophy passed down from your lawmakers is responsible for how humans generally behave, and this issue certainly has nothing to do with characteristics that literally every society has struggled with in recorded history.
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>>34482983
just become a glorious market socialist and you'll probably pass their scrutiny
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>>34482990
you mean the reference to
>ethnic/racial/gender group
lol, is gender a race now too?
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>>34482477
yer being silly lad
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>>34482932
this is incorrect, we are not a *happy* nation. we are a *content* nation
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>>34482887
In the sense capitalism supposed to have one function. , yes. It was supposed to be the basis of a stable economy that brought "brotherhood and fraternity", not an artificial ecosystem for social darwinism. "private property" does not even resemble what Adam Smith had in mind.
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>>34481450
lmao buttmad class reductionist white bois are still angry about the progressive stack 6 years later how sad
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>>34483017
>utopian
You don't know what that means. Marx railed against utopian socialist.
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>>34483066
everyone has the opportunity to succeed.
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>>34483090
Race is a common sense fucking term, I'm not redefining anything. White, black, asian, slavic, arab, aboriginal, native american, etc. You know what these things mean, and you can identify people who have these characteristics. These characteristics are determined by genetics. I don't give a shit about mutt outliers or obscure tribal groups. The naming convention works, and you know what I'm fucking talking about.
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>>34483113
Irrelevant to whether Capitalism is riddled with contradictions.
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The only despooking we need is boats back to Africa.
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>>34483066
What's wrong with social darwinism? Why can't we repurpose capitalism to achieve that goal?
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>>34482912
If you want to redefine race to mean whatever you want, then no it's not.
That's literally SJWs do
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>>34483159
do you think a door handle is riddled with contradictions too?
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>>34483136
Which is why people say "race is a social construct". It has no biological basis and have repeatedly failed to prove so within the thread.
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>>34483136

>huehuehue I'm gonna talk about some dusty old obscure economic theory and try and convince you that you don't really exist and should hand everything you have over to globalists because you're the same as everybody else around the world on account of economics
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>>34483159
Lots of useful things are contradictory. Nobody cares besides egghead academics who think the world is a math problem.
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>>34483186
23andme can tell your race from your spit. Please tell me how they can determine a social construct from spit.
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>>34483196
>I am only capable of defining myself through my race
pathetic
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>>34483231
They might be able to tell where you're "from" or your "gender" or "skin color" but they can't determine your "race".
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>>34483240
What definitions matter other than the physical?
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>>34483096

'Workers of the world unite'

Why? Why should we? The entire basis of this worldview is utopian, it assumes common ground where none exists.
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>>34483113
Succeed in what way and how?
This comes down to how we define "success".
It also comes down to whether the opportunity really exists. Yes, I have the opportunity to win a million dollars at the slot machines tomorrow, but does it fucking matter if my chances are 1 in 900 billion?
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>>34483265
You're constructing a definition of race that nobody cares about. If 23andme says I'm a jew, I'm probably a jew.
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>>34481450
>whites should willingly become minorities in their own countries despite no other group being willing to do the same
really made me think
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>>34483285
i think it does matter. you have a better chance at being successful through making things or performing services though.
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>>34483170
Social darwinism is spooky af, senpai.
It takes darwin and puts him on an altar.
Some us don't care to worship at that altar.
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>>34483265
That's wrong though.

Communists literally can't leave 19th century blank slate ism and Christian idealism behind.
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>>34483273
What, do you wake up and say to yourself in the morning, "I am a bipedal mammal."
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>>34483308
Whether or not you participate is determined by the people in power, not your feelings on the matter.
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>>34483240

>sit back and watch as we flood you with third world detritus.
>undemocratically pass acts to stop people challenging this
>watch your communities turn to shit
>watch demographics shift until you're a minority in your own capital city
>got a problem, goy?
>oh, sounds like you can only define yourself by race
>pathetic
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>>34483323
No. What's your point?
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>>34483021
Inequality is the result of capitalism:
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/2277976015592070

Inequality and Drug Use:
https://neuroanthropology.net/2008/05/06/inequality-and-drug-use/

Greater income inequality is associated with higher prevalence of mental illness and drug misuse in rich societies:
http://bjp.rcpsych.org/content/197/6/426.short

socioeconomic status on child development:
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Robert_Bradley7/publication/11603895_Socioeconomic_Status_and_Child_Development/links/0deec52eb389430c36000000.pdf

poverty/socioeconomic status/inequality on crime/violence:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0277953698000975
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/073401689301800203

inequality is the source of almost all societal problems:
http://search.proquest.com/openview/487ba6c82fcca924b5c83a4f593787db/1?pq-origsite=gscholar&cbl=42255 (summary of a book)

Higher social class predicts increased unethical behavior:
http://www.pnas.org/content/109/11/4086.full
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>>34483198

>>34483231
Gladly. 23andme relies on genetic markers based on recent geographical ancestry. These genetic markers are taken from the little variation that occurs between groups. If however, you tested for genetic markers between these groups the clusters you put people into would drastically change. They also rely on whatever data is available. That is why they have a lot more categories for Europe than Africa even though Africa has a lot more genetic variation within populations than Europe does.

In other words, as I stated earlier only 15% of human genetic variation occurs between groups. 23andme relies on this little bit of variation to pinpoint ancestry. Even then, they still have far from an accurate picture of that variation. They are focussing specifically on small differences, but that does not mean these differences are biologically relevant.
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>>34483298
Umm, god isn't real, anon, and Jew is a religion. You can't tell someone's religion from their genetics lol
>>34483317
You literally need to get past freshman year before you try to get involved in the conversation, anon.
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>>34483327
Not a single argument found. Please Try again!


Heres a hint, try posting facts instead of right wing conspiracy theories and ad homenim
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Marxists are the lowest form of life.
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>>34483354
>there is no difference but there wait there actually really is
Again go back to /leftypol/ and take your schizophrenia medications
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>>34483349
so under every other system, inequality doesn't exist? good for you for believing in this, it means that you're spoiled as fuck thanks to capitalism. the system really does work, even if we get a few retards like you who don't need to learn anything.
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>>34483372

Its a conspiracy theory that whites in London are a minority against collective immigrant numbers? It's a conspiracy theory that the race relations act was passed independent of democratic process?

What?
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>>34483327
>commies have control of the international political system
>we don't live in a capitalist system
lel, you act as if the elites don't live off idpol
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>>34483306
>you have a better chance at being successful through making things or performing services though.
And you have a better chance by owning private property and being born into wealth.
How is this not the same useless hierarchies imposed by the aristocracies?
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>>34483348
Oh, so I guess physical definitions don't matter all that much after all.
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>>34483324
Who said it doesn't?
My goal is to take that power away.
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>>34483385
That isn't what I said. I said the small differences are not biologically relevant. We are talking about 15% of .5%. You are claiming that tiny bit of variation is significant enough to justify humans being divided into biologically relevant races. I'm claiming that is not so and you are providing no evidence to the contrary.
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>>34483358
>Jew is a religion
Jew is a race that pretends to be a religion.
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>>34483392
No it's a conspiracy theory that theres a jewish plot to send minorities to white countries in order to oppress them.
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>>34483373
Heil victory, brother!
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>>34483414
wealth and property isn't as relevant to success in modern society. cost of a high QoL is much lower. i don't understand your question because you give no frame of reference. you think giving people opportunities to succeed is useless? surely you don't think that we can guarantee success to everyone who is born..
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>>34483387
Read a book you illiterate.
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>>34483456
>it's not relevant but wait you can clearly draw racial distinctions from it but it isn't real I swear! Never mind sub Saharan Africans don't have Neanderthal genes and Bantu people have archaic hominid dna
SCHIZOPHRENIA
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>>34483392
>he thinks he lived in a democracy to begin with
cute
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>>34483494
>claiming there are no classes means there are no classes
have you ever even been to china? vietnam?
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>>34481450
can someone explain what makes feminist gender identity stuff a "leftist" topic
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>>34483431
No, they matter a lot.
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>>34483479

What was the ethnicity of those who took SS windrush and sent it to jamaica to bring immigrants?

What was the ethnicity of the owners of the Jamaican newspaper that promoted immigrating to the UK?

The ethnicity of academics who sold state secrets to Soviet Russia? Who passed acts to force the UK to legally take migrant 'children' into its cares?
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>>34483476
Fuck off Nazi, adults are talking.
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>>34483555
23andme will literally tell you if you're a jew. Are they nazis too?
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>>34483512

So you disagree with state imposed multiracialism, as a source of guaranteed left wing votes and cheap labour?
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>>34482932
A model for the future. <3
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>>34483479
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85BKDj_1vVU
???
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>>34483505
You can't draw clear racial distinctions. When you specifically LOOK for differences you can find them. If you look at all genes, it is impossible to draw the line where one ends and the other begins. http://med.stanford.edu/tanglab/publications/PDFs/WorldwideHumanRelationshipsInferredFromGenome-WidePatternsOfVariation.pdf
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>>34483547
Ok, then how come you identify with your race and not your genus? You would certainly you identify with your job or lack thereof more than that.
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>>34483607
Spectrum fallacy

Get OUT
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>>34483614
Because when talking to other humans, the differing factor is not that I have two legs or am a mammal.
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>>34483536
Have you ever been to China or Vietnam? Their government still protects private property, commodification of labor, and capital accumulation. Again, read a book.
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>>34483604

The rallying cry of their beloved Jew Marx that these people abide by is 'workers of the world unite' a raceless, dystopian call to open all borders and merge humanity under a political elite. A total standardization of all mankind.

But yeah, no biggy. Just a conspiracy theory.
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>>34483484

>wealth and property isn't as relevant to success in modern society.

Yeah it is, including the region where you are born.

>cost of a high QoL is much lower.
Only because of comparative advantage, which usually means someone is being exploited in the process. That's how we maintain our standard of living.
>you think giving people opportunities to succeed is useless?
No, I think what you consider opportunity and success is meaningless and subjective.
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>>34483621
It isn't a fallacy. It is up to YOU to prove that the 15% of .5% of genetic variation that takes place between continental groups is relevant. You have failed to do that over and over. Psychologist are not authorities on genetic variation and like I pointed out in >>34482521
Lynn literally made up half his dataset for one of the most important books in race realism.
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Really magnetizes your melons.
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>>34483703
>It is up to YOU to prove that the 15% of .5% of genetic variation that takes place between continental groups is relevant.

Sure thing boss. Pic related.
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>>34483703
Black people don't have Neanderthal DNA in fact they have high admixture with archaic hominids.

Check mate.
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>>34483587
>So you disagree with state imposed multiracialism, as a source of guaranteed left wing votes and cheap labour?
I disagree with importing workers as a source of cheap labor, I don't particularly care about ""multiracialism"" or whatever you call it. considering that they wouldn't be importing these people if their votes threatened capitalism or the system at large, I wouldn't hardly say they're purpose is to provide "left wing" votes.

What I'd be more concerned with, however, is the fact that you didn't have any political power to begin with.
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>>34483703

You are arguing for us to believe in the total sameness of all humanity, in a world where this fantasy has never manifested, ever.
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>>34483703
Warrior gene.

Ever meet an unpleasant China man or a dumb Jew?

I haven't.

All negros I've met have been dumber than a box of rocks without exception.
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>>34483476
You mean jew is a race that says its a religion for tax cuts.
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>>34483732
There have been 2 other studies that found results that differed from the Minnesota test.

>Tizard et al. (1972) studied black (African and West Indian), white, and mixed-race children raised in British long-stay residential nurseries. Three out of four tests found no significant differences. One test found higher scores for non-whites.

>Moore (1986) compared black and mixed-race children adopted by either black or white middle-class families in the United States. Moore observed that 23 black and interracial children raised by white parents had a significantly higher mean score than 23 age-matched children raised by black parents (117 vs 104), and argued that differences in early socialization explained these differences.

I guess white Anglo Children are subhuman now though, judging by your standards.
>>34483735
And? How is that relevant to IQ? You realize that Neanderthals fall under the category of "archaic hominid" too, right?
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>>34483643
And yet, often times, your wealth, your job status is a more pertinent differing factor among the people around you.

What's more, when you speak of race, it's very rare that you talk of race itself, biologically. American blacks will act very differently than east African blacks. Nigerian immigrants are on average smarter than both native blacks and Britons. Your racial identity is far removed from all these things. It is just an idea, not reality.
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>>34483833
Look at your own graph. Asians > whites > blacks in intelligence. This is well known.
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>>34483833

It's the UK, the were probably passing some bullshit anti-racist social studies course. Who cares? That graph means absolutely nothing.
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>>34483539
"Right" things want to keep things the same. "Leftist" things are things of change.
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>>34482613
And rape works great for reproduction.

That doesn't make it right.
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>>34483833
>And? How is that relevant to IQ? You realize that Neanderthals fall under the category of "archaic hominid" too, right?
Who said anything about IQ race can be very easily delineated by which admixture of archaic hominid is present asians for example are probably crawling with denisovan DNA more research must be done.

Race is race, children of three years old can see it clear as day, race being not real is a pathetic psyop trying to apply 19th century internationalism intended for western Europeans onto everyone else.
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>>34483860
Let's cut the bullshit. I honestly just want to live with my own kind, and I'm tired of justifying it to you fucks. Enjoy your culture war, you earned it.
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>>34483860

I wish I could deport people like you to Liberia. What's the worst that could happen, it's not like a make believe social construct could hurt you.
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>>34483934
And yet, your "kind" has little desire to live with an autistic neet. You've sought refuge in a lie, if you keep indulging in it, it will eventually burn you.
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>>34484017
I'll burn, then.
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>>34483779
>What the fuck are scientific studies and statistics when you have anecdotes.
>must be genes!
The majority of whites i know are white trash and i know black people who are very successful.
>>34483919
Keep screaming it is as simple as your head can understand it senpai, it won't change anything.
>19th century internationalism intended for western Europeans onto everyone else.
Assuming you are referring to the communist manifesto and the slogan of all workers unite,it was a pamphlet written in a year of extremely violent uprisings in europe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutions_of_1848
It is a pamphlet stuck in that context.

The work of internationalism was intended for the whole world and that is what they worked on in fact.
https://www.marxists.org/history/international/iwma/
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>>34483934
We are all humankind.

There are good white black yellow brown and reds.

There are bad white black yellow brown and red.

Dumb ones, smart ones, fat ones, skinny ones, pretty ones, ugly ones. It goes on and on.
You are complaining and fighting over silly things.
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>>34482747
>thread
Honestly, the Left and lefty culture is based on the 1920-1980 treatment that everyone who wasn't white, or conservative got when publicly voicing a powerful opinion (smear campaigns, blacklisting, extraordinary rendition). Lefties are trying to fight back by dismantling everything conservatives - especially the actual racists stand for. It's not really that complicated, anon. And you see how the right reacts to every lefty thread...
>Expecting anything but race talk when righties enter a lefty thread and engage with race talk
Yeah, okay...
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>>34484002
Madmen hurt people all the time. That is, those with wheels in their head, like you. it does not matter how big the asylum is, I refuse to cede to mere fictions.
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>>34481450
Reminder that identity politics are a distraction
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>>34484033
I don't care about that. I am white.
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>>34484017

Multiracialism on the scale we are experiencing now would never have happened without it being state imposed.

The arabs slums and African ghettoes of London are a testament to how races divide themselves.

Nobody wants this. Nobody chose it. It was forced on us, and we are ridiculed by useful idiots like you when we challenge it.
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>>34484017
I'll take my chances being an autistic neet in a white society instead of being surrounded by blacks and browns who burn with seething hatred every time they see me just because I'm white

You left cucks are totally removed from how much everyone hates everyone else because you went to an interracial drug fueled orgy at your anarchist commune once

desu
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>>34484033

Tell that to an African when you've moved a million Swedes and a few hundred thousand Chinese into their capital city.
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>>34483869
>stormfag can't read
Not unexpected. Lower class Anglo's consistently performed worse than all other ethnicities. White English girls did worse than Black Africans period, and Black African girls performed better than whites period. "Shitskin" Indians did better than White British in total.

>>34483890
>N-n-no it doesn't matter!

>>34483919
Again: how is this biologically relevant. Read >>34483703. You are telling me: the 15% of .5% of variation that occurs between populations is biologically relevant enough to justify racial categories. I'm asking you to explain why. You are now listing the semantics of the .0016% of variation between groups, but not telling me why I should care.
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>>34484064
>I'll take my chances being an autistic neet in a white society
Do you think just because a society is white is free from violence and conflict?
>nstead of being surrounded by blacks and browns who burn with seething hatred every time they see me just because I'm white
Do you even go outside, you faggot?
I never knew my black friends hated me just because i was white actually.
>You left cucks are totally removed from how much everyone hates everyone else because you went to an interracial drug fueled orgy at your anarchist commune once
Nice projecting too.
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>>34484139
That graph comes from some journalist's blog in Zambia shilling how smart igbo Nigerians are

Fake news
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>>34484139
At this point I don't give a shit about numbers anymore. They've never done any good, people will believe what they want to believe. You're looking like a nerd right now. Nobody gives a shit about your percents and charts, either you see race or you don't.
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>>34484156
>Do you think just because a society is white is free from violence and conflict?
Let's try it and see!
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>>34484156
>Do you think just because a society is white is free from violence and conflict?
Yes

Sweden was a utopia before Olaf palm came along and ceded it to subhuman niggers

Japan is crime free and pretty much a utopia but (((they))) are starting to send more and more Nigerians

Rip japan
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>>34481570

>"Workers" have no unifying culture

That's because they're taught to be ashamed of themselves for not being millionnaires.
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>>34484053
>Multiracialism on the scale we are experiencing now would never have happened without it being state imposed.
And the state exists in a vacuum does it? They take their ques from the business world and then from liberal ideology.

>The arabs slums and African ghettoes of London are a testament to how races divide themselves.
They divided themselves, did they?

>Nobody wants this.
Except the arabs and Africans, according to you.

>It was forced on us, and we are ridiculed by useful idiots like you when we challenge it.
Go on. Challenge it. What do you hope to accomplish? Deport all the blacks and browns? Get them out? Force companies to make all their shit in your country with pure aryan-blooded men? Well, sorry to inform you, but capitalists aren't evil people. They didn't do what they did, import all the cheap labor and export businesses, because they hated whites. They did it because the invisible hand of the market told them to. Profit is the motor of capitalism. And without the cheap labor of the third world and immigrants, the rate of profit will plummet, and with it, capitalism itself. That is, the economic system you're currently living in.

The liberals you despise in government, the true ideologues, only do what they do because they believe equality and freedom are possible under capitalism.
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>>34484216
Alright, so now workers are proud of themselves. What culture do they have?
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>>34484230
>Well, sorry to inform you, but capitalists aren't evil people.
You're wrong. The eradication of the white race is the greatest human rights catastrophe in all of human history and people will regret it as future generations are nothing more than shitflinging low IQ black babboon people and insectoid Asian people.

Also capitalists aren't evil?

Lmao leftcucks are always trying to dance at two ballrooms
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>>34483017
The left only plays race politics because of the right's attempts over the last 100 years to subvert it's progressive agenda through intimidation, smear campaigns and illegal interpretations of law.
>Hippies
Crushed
>VP Henry Wallace
Silenced
>JFK
Headshot
>Hemp products
You guessed it.
>Civil rights movement
They're commies! Let's smear them!
>Let's regulate the borders reasonably.
Build a wall!
>Let's create laws to help the historically and statistically disadvantaged, and have these laws in effect for limited amounts of time!
No no, they're just trying to give all your money to black people! Let's start funneling drugs into their rebuilding communities! Let's devalue properties when working class brown people move into the neighborhood! Let's make it so these laws don't work!
Anon, my real point is, both sides have become increasingly more polarized, and because they endured 80+ years of the right smearing them, they've decided to embrace their bad image and go all out.
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>>34484139

How does this justify state imposed mass multiracialism, and why should western Europeans tolerate their displacement?

Somali's didn't even have written language before Europeans arrived, by your logic, our superior intelligence entirely justifies colonialism and our presence in Africa?
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>>34484064
>You left cucks are totally removed from how much everyone hates everyone else because you went to an interracial drug fueled orgy at your anarchist commune once
Here, I agree with Zizek, true multiculturalism, ect, is not everyone getting along harmoniously, learning to love one another, but rather everyone learning to ignore those they don't like, as adults in the real world must do.
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>>34484282
>you must do what i say
>"why?"
>because adults must do this other thing that i say
Tolerance is not a virtue.
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>>34484264
>there are people out there that are this autistic
impressive
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>>34481450
so in your perfect world:
jocks should hang out with nerds.
fishermen should hang out with peta
writers should hang out with people
dogs should hang out with cats
tigers should hang out with lambs
people should hang out with diseases
the space shuttle should hang out with gravity
space should hang out with oxygen.
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>>34484230

You support open borders and believe race doesn't exist.

And of COURSE the Africans and arabs want it...they can barely sustain civilisation indepdent of European intervention. They didn't come for a love of western Europe, they came for material gain. They'll always have 'back home'.

Early fascists said all this would happen, and it did.
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>>34484340
Are you cringing? Cringe, normie!
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>>34484327
I never said you had to do this. You could be a total sperg and murder a bunch of blacks in a church with an ar-15.

No, tolerance is not a virtue. But at worst, it is a necessary evil.
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>>34484365
Redditors keep on reading about 4chan in BuzzFeed articles and when they come here they always literally can't even
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>>34484266

We want regulated immigration, and we want our borders secured. That is all, and you know it. The average westerner couldn't care less about weed and gay marriage, but they are aware of the complete annhilation of their culture and identity unfolding.
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>>34484380
Civilization is defined by what we *do not* tolerate. Tolerance is passive, weak, and lazy. At some point it may be necessary, but that time is definitely not now.
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>>34484282
Speaking of adults.

When i was younger none of this stuff was a problem. We had whites blacks mexicans asians indian boys and girls and everyone got along. We were the cast of a pbs special. We were like the magic school bus. You can even throw a wheelcheer kid in there.
There were no problems no issues like this. What happens?

Adults are so stupid.
Or moreso they are being tricked, manipulated, fooled to act that way.
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>>34484355
>Internationalism is open borders
Wrong.
>All those african empires and arab kingdoms don't real because my feelings say it so
>Early fascists said all this would happen, and it did.
They also got hanged from meathooks and Mussolini did not care about race.
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>>34484199
>pretty much a utopia
>aging population
>economic woes
>blames Japan's problem on jews instead of capitalism

How can /pol/ be so retarded?
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>>34483113
Everyone has the chance to win the lottery. However, when we looks at the odds, the correct statement is: You will not win the lottery and you will not succeed. No, you are not a "temporarily embarrassed Millionaire." We do not have a system that realistically has upward mobility. Downward mobility is actually slightly more likely.
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>>34484418
Every single article about how Jspan need African immigrants and Muslim rapefugees is written by a Jew

Every article accusing Japan of faking its crime stats is written by a Jew

Every article saying Japan is a horrible place to live is written by a Jew

Every article saying Japan needs to accept (((foreign investors))) is written by a you guessed it a Jew
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>>34484355
>You support open borders
wrong

>And of COURSE the Africans and arabs want it...they can barely sustain civilisation indepdent of European intervention.
Read a history book you moron.

>they came for material gain
People do things for material gain?! My gott!

>Early fascists said all this would happen, and it did.
They also said that the aryan race was descended from the people of Atlantis and Yetis.
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>>34484417

Yeah pakistan is totally the Ottoman empire. Wouldn't you just love to live in Yemen?

Hitler called it, it Mosely called it. Mussolini lacked the foresight of others maybe, but most saw what the marxists had in line for western Europe.
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>tfw you'll never start a worker cooperative with your socialist friends because you have no socialist friends
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>>34481450
So the alternative is to have no passion and not care?

That's weakness.
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>>34484483

If you believe Europeans have the right to a homeland, and that immigration should be regulated with the native population taken into account, I don't care what else you believe. You can fantasise about Africa being brilliant all you like, so long as you don't import those fantasies to my doorstep.
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>>34483170
Social Darwinism assigns groups of people into winners and losers.

The problem with this is that smug people who advocate for this system automatically assume they'll be the winners. Now look at your life carefully and let me ask you, do you think you REALLY you would be the winner? Would you meet that high bar? Or would you be unable to perform to these standards and be pushed into the lot that suffers until you die an early death? How many of those who you love and care about would be cast into that group as well?
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>>34484542
Why does it matter if I win or lose? Not everything is "me, me, me".
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>>34481530
shiggy what does this mean?
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>>34481530
when did swastika pizza happen? is there a video?
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>>34484542
The weak must fear the strong.

Your egalitarian multiracial proletarian revolution will never leave the planning stage when up against the deep state, cuck.

Meanwhile white nationalists are subtly influencing elections.
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>>34484396
I get that, anon. I'm referring to the more extreme lefty culture that the media wants you to see. Most of us agree on secure borders and other similar things. However, many are still hateful of the right for some of theore evil things it's done in the past.
>Culture and identity unfolding
I guess. It happens to every civilization. Would you rather arbitrarily decide the fate of the world and nation or just let history run its course? It's a question we all ask ourselves, as the world will change with or without us. The left doesn't care. We just say bring it on. We'll work on all the problems that come with change, but we won't resist it.
Glad to find a rounded conservative to talk to, though.
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>>34484537
I don't believe in rights. but if I did, they should certainly belong to individuals, and not arbitrarily defined groups. A state belongs to its citizens, whoever they may be, and immigration should be regulated on a case by case basis.
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>>34484605
>The weak must fear the strong.
Says the guy posting on RK9 on a saturday.

You forgot you greek statue bro.
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>>34484412
This
>Get cucked by the entire planet after moving away from mom and dad
>Resist multiculturalism to fight back, thinking even a mass movement will save the world from change
Eventually things work themselves out. We're all ants in the driveway. We have no purpose and no say. These things will pass regardless of the hate being thrown around. I'd rather make as many friends of as many colors as I can before being washed away by the rain of change.
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>>34484666
Why do leftists want everyone to behave selfishly? A weak person can still see the value of hierarchy.
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>>34484637

The left is not without its history of inhumanity and violence. Also, I don't mindlessly defend European culture and heritage because I happen to be white, in fact, I think east asia is potentially the leading force in the world. I'll defend whoever is best equipped to prevent the world from plummeting into complete darkness at the hands of globalists.

Europe may regain its greatness, but if Asia falls to the moloch of diversity, the world has a bleak future ahead of itself.

If I thought West Africans were a force of innovation, beauty and glory, I might defend them with the same emotive zeal I do the racial aristocracy of Japan and Scandinavia..but I am unconvinced.
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>>34484502
Yeah, those places got no culture and are immune to law of development based on material conditions because you say so.
>Hitler called it
>Seriously trusting the guy who stole most of his rhetoric from the communist and socialist parties
>Trusting the guy who was literally backed by bankers and industrialists from britain and other places
>Trusting the guy who started a retarded war for living space to steal the resources of other nations with the justification that Germany needed those resources while he promoted natalist and population increases whenever he could
>Trusting an elite posh guy like Mosley to tell you about le ebil Marxists and righteous struggle while the guy never struggled a day of his life.

Let me guess, i should read the Protocols of the Elders of Zion?
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>>34484726
Leftists believe they are the centre of the universe. You can't even argue with one, they are absolutely convinced of their own brilliance.
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>>34484789
What's the point of your pic? It's just a guy's face with something he said. Leftist memes are incomprehensible.
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>>34484726
If you had the society you wanted you be on a fucking camp or worse. Keep licking that boot.
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>>34484726
So you think everyone should bow down and worship the rich like little beta boys, right?
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>>34484817
He is obviously a strong aryan warrior with a righteous duty to call out the misfits, can't you see.
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>>34484826
>i made a scenario up in which you suffer
>why haven't you changed your opinions yet
lol
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>>34484789

Nothing Mosely said was untrue, I couldn't care less about his wealth.

Hitler didn't expand beyond territory that was previously German, or territory that had actively opposed Germany following the end of WWI. No, forget about the Protocols. It's worth reading about the Balfour treaty though.

He didn't start any war, he was bombed multiple times by England before retaliating and went to lengths to make peace.

Stalin's russia was not bombed following their invasion of Poland.
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>>34484853
Dude just wants to preserve his genetic line. He probably has an IQ above 100 and is capable of functioning in an advanced civilization.

>he doesn't meet my aesthetic standards
>therefore his opinions are dumb
lmao
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>>34484817
DESU that guy does look like a cuck.
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>>34484847
No, but they should respect strong male leaders even if they aren't one themselves. Things work better that way. Equality just turns society into human soup.
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The only communist countries are dog eating shitholes
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>>34482241
ew

micmacq
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>>34484566
In other words, you are spooked.
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>>34481730
>materialist
>anti marxist
I don't think you know what that word means
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>>34484764
No party is immune to violence. I meant to emphasize the plight of the American / Western left. They've always been the economic minority, even though they're growing to be the voting /social majority. The reason why we see such violent change is because of the suppression on non - conservative ideals in the West (instead of reconciliation). Lots of factors add up, including the pre -1990 conservative media bias and the post 1996 liberal media bias. Also, "greatness" is subjective. The funny thing about Japan is that the nation didn't even have to be racist to keep itself homogeneous...
Anyways, anon, change is coming. We may be fucked, and maybe not. But the change is happening. I respect your opinion totally and wish you the best of luck in braving this world.
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>material and capital are the driving forces for society
>One system of distribution of the material ideology is better than the other
>People think one or the other is a good thing

Why do people keep on thinking this?
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>>34484275
We oppose mass-immigration. He was argument was that it's retarded to base a whole ideology solely on a spooky concept like race.
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>>34483536
>>34483655
Yea, China and Vietnam are no longer fully Communist. They're actually Communist states with extreme Capitalist elements. Hence, where there actually ARE markets, there are no labor protections, no market controls and thus actually become a danger to their communities while enriching the state.
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>>34481607
Sad!
oregano original
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>>34485537
>it's retarded to base a whole ideology solely on a spooky concept like race.
It isn't though. It actually makes for a pretty nice society if you do that.
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>>34484864
>Hitler didn't expand beyond territory that was previously German, or territory that had actively opposed Germany following the end of WWI.
Weren't all his plans to conquer everyone was justified by "muh aryan living space"?
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>>34485805
Nice high school tier knowledge of history.
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>>34483934
The inherent problem with what you said is that we don't need to compete. Cooperation among nations and peoples is necessary to strive for world peace and avoid nuclear conflict and apartheid.
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>>34481916
>Science's "Rutherford-Bohr atomic model" just an outgrowth of the astronomy solar system where the sun just gets replaced by nucleus, planets by electrons, etc. It's the exact same shit, peddled to the exact same end. The difference between your astronomy and nuclear physics is non-existent
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>>34485829
We can cooperate without living in the same place.
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>>34485846
see the thing is black people dont want to live with white people. they kind of hate us. they want our stuff but they hate white people.
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>>34485885
Great! They can live with their own kind, and we can live with ours.
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>>34485829
>and apartheid.
What's wrong with apartheid?
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>>34485916
its a cultural thing. people dont understand that. if black people acted like they do in great Brittan they would have no problems. thing is they dont want to "act white". that wouldn't be a problem but unfortunately they associate education with being white. why they decided not getting an education was the best way to stick it to the man we will never know.
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>>34486027
Well, they can sort out their cultural issues in their own country.
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>>34482394
>stirner
>materialist
how is the logical conclusion of hegelian idealism materialism?
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>commies and stormfags fighting
>meanwhile I'm just a libtard enjoying myself

top kek
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>>34486057
de de deee
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I might join the alt-left before it becomes too popular.
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>>34486136
hows that go? joining the alt left
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>>34481649
>that picture
Maybe it's because you're in a black neighborhood
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>>34482241
We can only hope for it, brother
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>>34484399
When you admit that tolerance is eventually necessary, you're saying that it could be necessary now, but you're too stubborn to accept that other ideas and other people may be good as well.
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What a sad leftypol raid.
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>>34484605
The Strong fear the numerous Weak uprising.

Again, you have this smug implication that you're the Strong. I doubt very much that you would fall in that category. You would likely be crushed, and everyone would suffer.
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>>34484934
These cries for "strong leaders" are nearly always predicated on fear of others. This is why I generally regard Conservatives as cowards and spineless.

>Gee I'm really scared of these minorities and somehow they're the source of ALL of my problems! There's no way we can preserve their rights too, they're just inferior citizens! Please save me Mr. Strongguy, and please steal all of our wealth while you're at it!
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>>34487196
>said while he slurps the knobs of Obama and Bernie
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>>34485454
>Japan didn't even have to be racist
Are you fucking kidding me? Do you even know know the history of Nationalist and Fascist Japan? Does the Nanking Massacre ring a bell? The rest of the Asian nations (including free ones) really hate Japanese for a reason.
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>>34485938
you gonna trigger me m8.

>>34485885
You know man, if you gave them a chance and when you talk to them, you could not start every sentence with, "I'm not racist but..."
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>>34487260
Better than slurping Trump, who isn't even a Conservative.
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>>34487454
>who isn't even a Conservative.

Amazing point, Jeb. You really got Drumpf on the ropes now!
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>>34487534
I like preserving our democracy.

Nationalism get fucked. It only leads to warmongering.

Conservatives are hurting and need to be saved, else they'll eat us all up in the increasingly toxic rhetoric. Freedom of all the nations in the world hangs in the balance.
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>>34487702
>I like preserving our democracy.

Me too, so please honor the process and respect our new President. :)
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>>34481607
Weeeeehewwww lady oreginillo
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>>34481450
>"WORKERS"

why aren't more people calling out OP and all the faggots like him on this bullshit?
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