Is anyone on r9k actually ugly or are you guys just moody teenagers?

>>34462940
Hi friend. Have you considered you might have a hormone issue? Please get your testosterone, estradiol, LH, and FSH levels checked. If you cannot afford that then just pull your total and free testosterone.

I am always telling men to check their T levels, but you might also have a pituitary or even hypothalamic issue. Your body might not have made enough of a hormone called Human Growth Hormone during an issue in puberty. A competent endocrinologist will be able to explain better. There are simple blood test they can do that will measure your HGH levels and tests to ensure your endocrine system is ok. The 6 inch wrist circumference is the big tell to me - unless you are 5'2" and east asian.

That was pretty shitty to get roasted like that - you deserve a level of human respect.

>>34462940
>17" bideltoid breadth, 6" wrist circumference, and 34" ribcage circumference
you are literally an insane human being

please check yourself into an asylum ASAP

>>34463094
I'm 5'8" and white. I don't really see the point of doing these tests now that there's absolutely nothing I can do about it.

>>34463201
Fatalism. The post.

You can get a prescription for HGH, HCG, T, anything. I think you need it. You might also have a pituitary tumor.

If you have a hormone issue, 18 months on them with a gainer diet and lifting weights 3x a week will have you a new man, literally. Your height is unlikely to change past around age 24 though but 5'8" is ok. Really.

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>>34462940
I'd say I'm pretty fucking ugly. Not that it bothers me, or hinders me, but yeah.

>>34463338
Lose 20 lbs and new glasses and you'll be +2, serious

>>34463372
>Lose 20lbs
I'm working on it
>New glasses
I hate glasses in general, but it's my only option.

>>34463303
Your growth plates fuse in your early 20s. By 25 there's no chance for your bones to change so HGH and test won't do much.

I agree about the height, it's not my biggest problem. I benefit from living in a place with lots of immigrants so they bring down the average height by a lot.

>>34462940
I think you and I share some similarities but I am truly repulsive. The reactions to my appearance I've gotten from just total strangers over years just pierced clean through me and they replay in my head constantly. I even got it from my family and own parents. I don't think even 0.1% of humanity is unfortunate enough to have a life like this.

TLDR, yeah, a few of us are the real deal.

>>34463201
Trust me. It works no matter what age you are.

>>34463390
He's right, I'd shave my head to, and keep the beard.

>5'4"
>black
>4/10 on my best day
>skinny
>can't grow a beard at all
>have absolutely no idea what to do with my nalot hair
>tired eyes
>big nose

Yes I'm pretty ugly and I don't blame anyone for not wanting to fuck me

>>34462940
>Most notably he called me "little miss petite" and thought I was 19 years old.
If I hired a private consultant and he pulled this I'd immediately call my lawyer and we'd file a complaint to the company I hired him from to get a refund and if nothing was done I'd escalate it to fraud charges.

I wouldn't even be doing this because it is the right thing to do, he was paid to do a job and didn't do it and you have to nip bullshit like this in the bud in business or you will keep getting screwed around.

>>34463338
ur pretty normal looking friendo, just lift

>>34463390
Nice. Keep it up!!

>>34463399
Your height is unlikely to change but you can still put on bone density, muscle mass, and with HGH develop a new facial structure (serious). If there is a hormonal issue I wouldn't assume your growth plates fused either. It is likely but with the numbers you're posting I can't assume anything.

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>>34463429
I WISH I could go back to being completely bald. But that is apparently intimidating to my customers.

>>34463338
Friend/10.

Lift, my guy.

>>34463446
Too lazy, no gym partner.

>>34463492
Not an excuse. Everyone is lazy at first.

>>34463338
Only virgin nerds wear wire rims (myself included) but get something smaller and more rectangular. You'll look better.

>>34463444
I'm in the construction industry. albeit working in an office and not actually doing any labor; I only needed to do the training because it's required by law as there is a slim chance that I may need to conduct a site visit, which means I need "safety training". Anyway. I think generally in this particular environment, this sort of thing is to be expected. The consultant that was doing the training had worked in construction for a long time himself so he wasn't about to pull any punches about my appearance. I don't really blame him because I know the things he said are what everyone thinks of me anyway. The truly unbearable pain comes from knowing that I'll die alone because I'm unlovable due to my appearance. No woman could ever be attracted to me.

>>34463434
1 and 2, out of your control. A non issue.
3 - subjective. Learn to dress well and learn game.
4. out of your control
5. no ide what nalot hair is. Find a hair salon and ask a gay guy to style it into something.
6. Sleep and eat better.
7. Plastic surgery or learn to accept it.

>>34463554
>he truly unbearable pain comes from knowing that I'll die alone because I'm unlovable due to my appearance. No woman could ever be attracted to me.
With this attitude, yes. I have given you a concrete and actionable step to perhaps fix this finally. At the very least you can put on some muscle mass via lifting.

It is unfortunate this guy called you out on it though.

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>>34463475
Well it might do ya better with the ladies. On another thread anons and a femanon told me to shave mine, think I just might.

>>34463558
>4. out of your control
>being skinny
u wot, even if your body type is somewhat set in stone you can stick pack on muscle and a reasonable amount of fat.

>>34463627
Whoops missed it, was supposed to be #5.

See my man - I don't even give a shit that you're skinny, its such a nonissue.

>>34463602
Oh I don't ever have trouble with women. I've been on a relationship of some sort since I was 13. Despite being ugly I have a fuck ton of confidence.
>>34463511
I'm 30, I'm allowed to be lazy now.
>>34463546
Tried, all the slimmer glasses have fields of view that are too small on the periphery.

Surprised by all the positivity though. That's a nice change here.

>>34463676
I'm 36 sonny. Don't give me the 30 year old excuse. You're going to bloat in your 30s if you don't get exercising. You can do it!

>>34463676
>I don't ever have trouble with women. I've been on a relationship of some sort since I was 13. Despite being ugly I have a fuck ton of confidence.
Why are you here you fucking Chad.

>>34463558
Those first 2 disqualify me from a good 70% of women

How do I learn game and how to dress well

Is it really a good idea to ask a gay stylist what would make me look better? Any experience?

Sleep won't fix anytjing

>>34463716
1. Game doesn't exist. It's 90% looks. Women preselect you based on your looks and only then they worry about petty shit like "personality" to differentiate you from other potential suitors.

2. Getting enough sleep helps you maintain a good hormonal profile. Also if you work out, it's mandatory to get enough sleep to make progress.

>>34463601
I guess I can try getting referred to a specialist to get myself checked out. I still doubt it'll help at this point. I really wish I had realized what was wrong earlier and then maybe I could have turned things around before it was too late.

>>34463716
Ok, so you say 70% of women dont like it. 30% still do and all it takes is 1 or 2 to work.

Dress well: black guys can get away with all kinds of clothes and looks. Dressing the Man: Mastering the Art of Permanent Fashion is a classic guide. Styleforum is good too to read and see pics.

Game: rsdtyler on youtube

For your hair I dont know what you have, but yes, invest in going to a moderate or upscale salon in the mall or downtown and getting a gay guy or girl to explain what to do with your hair, what product s to use, how to style, etc. It's not so much about what style you think is cool - if your hair is fucked it's about finding something that is doable for you. You can do it!

>>34463784
My man is is never too late. It does suck that you didn't have a parent or older guy to take care of this 10 years ago, but that doesn't mean you can't take action today. Even if your hormones are completely normal that doesn't mean you can't lift and change your mind.

>>34463751
Gotta disagree with you on #1. Looks help the 8/9/10 guys get girls approaching. Personality is what gets the rest of the guys the ability to approach. If you're on /r9k/ you're not a 8/9/10 guy anyway. I'm average as fuck and game is real.

Im that guy who is not ugly (curly blonde hair, athletic body, more effay than 90 % of the guys of my uni, and white (I live in Mexico btw) but neglect certain features like my teeth (they are white but a little crooked, nothing horrible anyway) I have a few marks of acne and gynecomastia. As you will see I am in the limbo. To this add the fact that I am not at all photogenic and you will obtain a strange guy that it is not ugly, it is not attractive, it is only something. It's not that bad tho. The only thing I hate it's the fucking gyno. I can't show my worked body just for that fucking shit.

>>34463973
Gyno: fix with surgery, or get your estrogen/estrodial level tested. You can shrink it with a drug called Arimidex if your gyno is from estrogen problems.

I'm 21 and look 14. Skinnyfat, babyfaced, brown eyes, 5'11" etc.
I'm genetic trash.

>>34463894
Average people are attractive in some capacity and have potential to become very good looking with some effort. If the average human wasn't attractive, it wouldn't be the average, would it? The genes have to propagate somehow. If you look at it from a scientific point of view, the average human exhibits a degree of sexual dimorphism, which is one measure of beauty and sexual appeal (there are others, of course). That means that the average male could indeed look significantly better from working out because the additional musculature and low body fat exaggerate the dimorphic characteristics of his skeletal structure.

I'm not saying personality isn't important, but looks are the most important factor by far. You don't need to be a male model, but you do need to meet basic standards.

>>34463338
Literally just fat. You're not particularly attractive, but you can be 6-7/10 if you lose a bunch of weight.

>>34464010
I am currently living with my parents, no job. My full time goes to uni, so surgery it's not an option. I'm curious about Arimidex.. how the hell I get that shit, anon?

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I'm fat and ugly.
Have no friends.
Never had gf.
Only fucked escorts.
JUST

>>34464040
21 isn't so bad. Lots of healthy males get a final growth spurt from 20-25 before their growth plates fuse. If you have a normal frame (not narrow with stick bones like me) you can fix the babyface by decreasing your body fat percentage to exaggerate your facial angularity. At worst, you can grow facial hair to cover it up or get a Le Forte and totally change your face (I doubt your face is bad enough to merit the latter though).

>>34463338
>not losing weight
>not wearing better looking glasses
>not growing out a real beard instead of whatever the hell that is
>not shaving your little tuft of hair
come on

you can't even complain when there's so much tangible to fix

>>34464136
I know all that, anon, but there's just so much fat on my body and not enough muscle. I weigh 175lbs, but my bf% must be over 25%, maybe even 30%. I'm ridiculously flabby. Even when I weighed 155lbs, I just looked like a smaller version of my self, all fat and bones.

I know I have to cut and lift, but I'm so fucking lazy and I like to overeat. As for height, my dad is 6'1" and I know he went through a late growth spurt (grew 3" from age 19 to 22). It's a bit too late for me I'm afraid. Maybe if I start working out and eating better my testosterone levels will rise resulting in growth, but it seems unlikely.

>>34464241
Meant to say 145lbs. That's right, 5'11" 145lbs and i looked just as fat as I do now at 175lbs. I'm a fat fuck.

>>34462940
>tfw 6ft tall and less than 5 inch wrist circumference

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>>34464284
Wristlets, when will they ever learn?

>>34464241
Honestly if you're that worried, just start taking roids but make sure to do it when you're sure there's no chance you're going to grow anymore. As I previously said, 25 years is a sure bet that you're done growing.

Anyway, I really think that it's all about bones. You see guys who are overweight with girls all the time. Maybe you won't get the hottest girls, but you'll still be appealing in a sense. It's really all about masculinity. The basic measure of beauty for men is dimorphic features and if you're not morbidly obese, you still have a shot even if you're a lazy fuck.

>>34464307
>tfw I'm actually 165 pounds

>>34464307
OP here. I look nothing like this. Those guys look tall and masc and the guy on the right has average shoulders and big hands.

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>>34464307
Ha, an albino goblin

>>34463338
Pretty normal looking famalam. 8/8 would play D&D with

>>34464368
>Those guys
>the guy on the right
Do you have autism?

>>34464109
You live in mexico broheim. Don't they sell it at pharmacia? it's prescription here but I thought you can get all kinds of stuff in Mexico. In any case, get your estradiol levels checked from a doctor (like $50) and armidex is really cheap it's generic. If you're going to do this read as much as you can - gyno is a common bodybuilder problem from testosterone use (excess T gets converted to estrogen, excess estrogen causes gyno). There are many protocols of using Clomid (another drug) and Arimidex to beat gyno. Good luck!

>>34464241
>so fucking lazy and I like to overeat
There's the problem. Fix that shit. You get 1 life nuqqa.

>>34464669
No, I'm drunk. I thought they were twins. I see it's two photos now.

>>34463712
>Chad
>Am openly fat
Huh?

>>34463338
good looking bloke. you look like a noice guy

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I unironically have no idea if I'm ugly or not. I always just assumed I'm average. I would like an honest opinion.

stats: 6'3", 245lbs, 24yrs, virgin

>fat fuck
I'm working on it, I lost 5 pounds already this month, lifting 3 times a week. Also I'm trying to get another inch on the beard.

>>34464307

That's what girls cast manlets aside for?

>>34462940
What the fuck kind of person would take that picture, ?

>>34463338
I would hang out with you, Anon. Stay safe.

>>34466812
Based on face alone solid 7/10

>>34466812
Lift weights and become huge, would go well with your facial structure

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I am, how would my fellow brobots describe me though?

>>34468013
Just a standard Beanboy. You're fine, man.

>>34468013
just lose weight and you're going to be fine

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Am I ugly? Pls b honest

>>34468013
>>34468230
>>>/soc/
original comment now I swear

>>34464136
What is a lefort and hjow effective is it pls respond?

there's a meme that robots are actually often attractive and it's just completely false. you guys are garbage.

>>34468013
actually ugly

>>34466812
entirely dependent on amount of muscle mass. if you're built, it's gravy. if you're just fat, you probably just look autistic and old in real life

>>34464114
"here's a retarded '''''''''''ironic''''''''''''' picture where you can barely see my face"

>>34463475
hold your fucking camera steady jesus christ how hard is that
it's a picture of yourself so it's not like you're inconveniencing anybody by retaking it

anyway you look like a creepy latin teacher who doesn't actually hit on the middle schoolers he teaches, but the girls think he's hitting on them anyway.
in short: unattractive, bookish, middle-aged
in >>34463338 you basically look the same except you have lost your teaching credentials due to the harassment allegations, but they couldn't prove anything so now you work in IT instead of being fired. the school worked it this way so that you don't sue them

>>34466812
You kind of have an intimidating masculine look going on. Right now it doesnt look impressive but get bear mode and you can fuck all the QT twinks.

>>34462940

Im overweight and have gyno

im like a 6 or 5 /10

>>34462940
H-Hassan, is that you?
i'm so sorry....

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>>34462940
I'm not even ugly. Relatively attractive facial features but bad skin drags it down.
>6'2.5''
>160lbs
>7 1/4 inch wrists
>19 3/4 shoulder width
>36 1/2 chest
>11 1/2 cold unflexed bicep
>10 3/4 forearms
>31 waist
>13 calves
>20 1/2 thighs
>light brown hair
>green eyes
Can't get laid if you don't leave the house though

>>34463338
you look fine
beard suits you

>>34463338
just be yourself XD

ogirnalcomment

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Not grotesquely ugly. I just stand at a whopping 5'3 at 23 years old.
Also brown skinned.

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Like Serge said ugliness is superior to beauty because it last forever. He also fucked the most beautiful french actresses and singers of his time

>>34469266
Plus he had a weird/creepy relationship with his daughter

>>34462940
Yeah I am. I won't post my picture, but I have buck teeth, weird depressed eyes, I'm lanklet, weak in general (even my joints) and socially retarded

I could fix a few things and try be normal, but I'd probably end up exhausted and feel unfulfilled either way.

>>34463201
This

>tfw big hips which I'm pretty sure are caused by low T

I'm just waiting for death because even if I get testosterone now it's too late I'll always look like complete shit

I fucking hate life it's always shitting on me like this

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At least you guys aren't Asian.

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Too afraid to take a new pic because my hair has thinned dramatically in the year since I took this one. Hair loss doesn't run in my family or anything so I hope really bad that it's caused by stress and can be reversed.. I have chest pain/trouble breathing from anxiety all day every day, so stress is definitely there.. If I have to I'll get a hair transplant eventually.

>6'2"
>Fat
>Shit teeth
>Gyno
>Dress like shit most of the time
Still get smiles from women and occasional girl dying at some slightly funny "joke". Also I'm noticing people seem really intimidated by me then when I speak to them they warm up really fast and I keep having to break off conversations to go handle my business. Not sure if ugly or cute. Is this how people are with everyone?

>>34471307
There's a very high chance that it's genetic for men. Stress only hastens the process. Temporary hair loss is mostly prevalent only for women. You should've gotten on finasteride.

>>34466812
you need to get your beard trimmed professionally

at the very least trim down the sides, it'll lend a slimming feature to your face and is in general more complimentary to a bald head

other than that, you have very defining features which can be good or bad. If you're in shape you should have no problem

good job on losing the weight so far

>>34468013
loose weight and get a better haircut

your head the way it is now unironically looks like a fat mushroom

>>34468230
lose the mustache dude

>>34471447
I've never even heard of finasteride until like two days ago.

>>34471307

you look pretty cute tbqh

>>34464114
money doe

>>34471551
Not used to hearing that, but.. I think I'm doomed with my hair, I never knew abput things like finasteride. I just never heard of them.. That and being a dicklet.

No chance in hell I'll ever have a qt trap or femboy.