Convince me "virgin" and "female" can still

>>34441530
The only females who are virgins in this day and age have some kind of mental problem if they haven't succumbed to Chad yet.

Boom, there ya go.

>>34441530
What about women who have had sex with one non Chad? Because I know women like that.

>>34441588
Good. I'd be perfectly happy with that. I literally have no other standards anymore.

>>34441601
No.

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>>34441530

Religious girls? I think something like 1% of women are still virgins by 21. You're going on a hunt

>>34441628
I'm just saying, the world is not divided into virgins and those who have fucked Chads. There is a middle ground of perfectly ordinary people.

>>34441628
not to mention if they're still a virgin they're probably ugly as shit too

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>>34441634
I've been trying to find the needle in the haystack for too long. I realized the other day that I can't just be told anymore that the needle is there. I won't believe it anymore without a metal detector.

>>34441675
I want virgin, period. Once a whore always a whore.

>>34441680
I will take the ugliest yet pure, sweet girl over a 10/10 roastie

>>34441731
Well, I guess they're out there. Somewhere, even if it's a fat bitch with downs, she's out there somewhere.

>>34441530
>I can't have sex because I'm a shitty person. If anyone doesthat means they're degenerate and used goods.

If you aren't desirable in any way, why should you get prime pussy? I don't understand you guys sometimes. Stop being a faggot.

>>34441731
You must have a very strange definition of whore.

Listen, what do you have to offer any girl, even a roastie?

Convert to Mormonism.

That's basically your one option.

>>34441731
>Tfw I talk to a virgin qt who is saving herself for marriage
>Tfw so fucked up I don't want to get married or have kids
She also likes anime, but I like film, we couldn't be more different. The thing is, she's Hispanic so you have no reason to be jealous

>>34441795

OP wants a long term relationship. It's understandable why he doesn't want used goods

>>34441822
If you went out and actually talked to women you'd find that the memes of "all women are rosties" isn't true. Believing the Internet is bad for your health

>Inb4 it's ironic that I said to believe me

>>34441847

When did I ever say all women are roasties? What the fuck are you talking about?

>>34441795
I don't need prime pussy. I want missionary position for the sole purpose of procreation. I have next to no actual sex drive in the first place, but I'm the only hope for a pretty long branch of my family tree.

I never understood the virgin thing.

Neither me or my fiance were virgins when we met, but we'd only had one or two previous relationships and no casual sex. We're fine and happy. One or two previous LTR don't stop your ability to have another one. Hell, being a virgin implies you're either religious (which is something I wouldn't want in a girlfriend or wife), fucking weird and crazy or bud ugly.

>>34441864
It's a general (you), sorry. I see it all over this place. There's seemingly no one here that has any faith in women

>>34441907
women are all lying, cheating whores

oregonal

>>34441530
>>34441530
Idk man girls typically haven't fucked me since I've been on r9k so that's prolly where to start sperg

>>34441907
Man, you're on /r9k/, what the hell do you expect? I come out of morbid curiosity and a desire to feel better about myself because at least I'm not ideologically fuelled and filled with hatred. Same reason I go on tumblr occasionally.

It's fascinating.

>>34441878
I hope you find her. Keep your last name alive

>>34441952
It's honestly like an exotic zoo just waiting for exploration

>>34441888
I have no problem with previous romances, and having had them myself it would be hypocritical to worry about it. It is previous sex that I don't tolerate, and not having had that myself I am not a hypocrite for that. I consider myself virgin, albeit not kissless handholdless.

>>34441907

It's easier to have faith in virgin women compared to sluts. OP and I know that

>>34441973
I'm thinking of writing a book about the ugly corners of the internet.

The Reality TV loving and pop science reading types will just lap it up. Bestseller material right there.

>>34441988
There's a certain point where you have to be understanding about a past though, right? It's totally up to you whether or not you are. I'm just asking

>>34441981
Why though? Previous romances usually come with previous sex-as it did with me and my fiance. I don't care, and neither does she. It's me she's marrying, and me she loves.

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>>34442022

I disagree. There is no such point.

>>34441995
we don't need any more normie here as it is

>>34442036
That's why I tend to be suspicious of it. I don't care what you prefer, but I care because of my upbringing and religious reasons.

>>34442086
If you were the one who wasn't a virgin because you ended a previous LTR, do you think you don't deserve any partner ever again?

>>34442054
They won't come here. They'll enjoy reading about all the social fuckups that washup here though. You could juxtapose it with the social fuckups that washup in tumblrina land.

>>34442123
Because I'm a human unlike such people, i don't care about their feelings.

>>34442086
I do wonder though, what do you have that makes you worthy of passing down your genes? What can you offer a woman?

>tfw met a virgin and get along super well with her but she lives out of the country and she's actively trying to lose her vcard to a random chad through tinder

>>34442041
Harsh, but fair I guess. I'm not gonna white knight this too hard and tip my fedora on you.

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>>34442154

What does a woman have to offer me?

>>34441530
the only females that are virgings are 10 yo and younger

>>34442123
You know full well that anyone on 4chan, particularly a man, isn't going to be a good bf. People who have been in ltr will find other people to love, like >>34442036
Autistic 4chan /pol/sters and /r9k/ types will remain forever alone, blaming everyone but themselves for their failure in love, and Chads will keep fucking slutty girls who don't want relationships, and the world will keep on turning.

You really think girls think they don't deserve other relationships because gross robots like OP won't marry them? You're deluding yourself about what women think of men like OP.

>>34442179
This exactly. I want someone who is worth the effort I have to put into her. At this rate none of them are worth the effort I'm putting into finding them in the first place.

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>>34442150
Non virgins aren't people? That's pretty edgy

>>34442086
>I care because of my upbringing and religious reasons.

this is one of the more interesting cognitive maneuvers "robots" like to employ at this point in the conversation

this happens because they know their desire for virgin women essentially resolves to narcissism and a massive amount of insecurity regarding their own ability to be a satisfactory partner/lover.

by acting like you want a pure virgin waifu because the bible tells you to, you get to act like your desires are noble and virtuous and not, you know, driven by a crippling desire to make sure that any girl who suffers through sex with you only knows that experience so you, by definition, cannot compare unfavorably to other men

in reality, nobody--literally nobody--who follows any religious text to the point that they require a pure, untouched virgin maiden is ever going to use a fucking imageboard full of porn (including, prominently, anime ladybodys) and abject, undisguised misanthropy

tl;dr
>lying about your motivations on an anonymous imageboard
kill yourself

>>34441601
>virgin
>fucking
are you fucking retarded?

>>34442179
Well, you're the one making the thread about wanting a pure virgin waifu. One presumes you want a woman that fits that description.

>>34441800
What does a roastie have to offer him besides her vagina? Give me 3 qualities that women have that are unique to women and are "redeemable" points.

>>34441795
what a low quality b8 m8

>>34442196
Trust me, I know that no women would ever want anyone like OP. I'm being retarded and trying to convince him that he's not worthy or mentally ready in anyway for a relationship.

>>34442198
When they think with their hormones instead of their brains they lose their humanity.

>>34442205
>I haven't been trying to give up fapping for years but fail miserably because reasonable women literally don't exist

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>>34442210

I didn't make the thread. I just find the notion of men having to "prove" themselves to women fucking hilarious. Men are the interesting ones. Women are the boorish, talent-less gender who should be proving themselves to men. Of course, men are weak-willed in general so they often settle for less.


Also, note the graph.

>>34442205
This is by far the most accurate and intelligent thing I've read on this board.

>doesn't say much, but still true

>>34442213
Well, there are no qualities unique to men either. It's all about finding someone with stuff in common with you.

>>34442273
>using big words
>the most accurate and intelligent thing i've read on this board
Samefag?

>>34442234
>trying to give up fapping but can't
>can't control your own hormones
>literally this retarded he can't see his own irony

An hero now please

>>34442261
Well, I wasn't talking to you. I was talking to OP.

Anyway, I've met just as many boring men as I have boring women. People are just boring in general, for the most part.

The graph says nothing to contribute to the conversation I was having with OP.

>>34442273
>>34442205
this is by far the most obvious samefagging ive seen

>>34442297
I can control my own hormones enough not to become desperate for pussy just because it's "hot". I never said it was porn that I fap to.

>>34442287
No samefag here. What do big words have to do with that?

I did it at 19

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>>34442307
The originality of this post is astounding to everyone

I was a female virgin until age 20

it's definitely possible if you're not stacy

>>34441530
Don't worry Anon, they still exist.

However, they are called sixth graders.

>>34442319
You can't control your hormones if you can't resist the urge to fap. Just because you don't look at porn doesn't mean you have no control over yourself. Nice try, non human scum

>>34442364
I support stacy genocide. Of course, that would leave no women left in my state.

>>34442274
Excuse me?

1. Men have logic. Women have emotion. Men have 10 layers to their arguments because we know that we'll be questioned and tested for everything that comes out of our mouth. A woman can get away with saying absolutely retarded shit because men will pretend to agree so they can get into her pants, or because they know that arguing with a woman is futile because all she's gonna do is throw more emotion and fail to connect on a logical level. That's why you can have a deep, logical, fulfilling conversation with a man. You can't have that with a woman.

2. Men can FIX things. That's just how it is. A woman can't fix shit. No matter how strong and smart you think you are, you're always going to need a man to fix stuff for you. Not just broken shit like the sink or the microwave (I've yet to see a woman fix her own appliances and not run to the first man to fix it for her). Men make things happen. It's our nature. We've been going out and hunting, bringing back shit, building civilization and fixing shit since year minus one million or whenever the fuck it was.

That's just two examples.

>>34442377
I'm not American. How old is that, 12 ish? or is it different there?

>>34442390
11-12. Kids usually start Grade 1 by the time they're 6.

>>34442390
11 or 12, yeah. Last I heard they aren't statistically likely to be virgin either.

>>34442387
Sure, if you believe those are unique to men. I've been in the real world, met real women who can do those things, and men who can't. But go on. Keep on with your little delusions.

I mean, hell. Most of the shit on here is as illogical as a tumblrina.

>>34442423
It's hard to use logic and reason when all of their arguments are based off of emotion. The hypocrisy and retardation of most of the people on this board is amazing. It's not worth it to try and change anyone's minds

>>34442423
You don gon dun did getted b8ed.

>>34442423

>Muh anecdotal evidence
These are 2 absolutely undeniable truths that apply to men in general.

This place is as logical as it gets. /r9k/ exists because of the following: ugly man gets rejected and treated like shit for being ugly -> becomes bitter -> comes on 4chan to vent about his frustration.

>>34442423
This. It's fucking hard to understand that there are people on this site, right now, that unironically believe that all men are logical and all women are purely emotional. The real world isn't anything like r9k would have you believe. My dad is one of the most emotional, illogical people I've ever known, and my mom is smart and logical. I've met tons of smart, critically-thinking women and tons of ass-backwards dumbfuck men.

I only want a virgin because I'm a virgin. If I just got some sexual experience with a few girls, I would not really care if a girl I was seeing was not a virgin.

>>34442477
But isn't anecdotal evidence enough to disprove the hypothesis, since it explicitly states "all men do this" and "all women don't do this"?

>>34442508
Anecdotes don't account for exceptions to the rule

>>34442483
I like how both of you used anecdotal evidence. Meanwhile, in the real world, men tend to be employed in positions which require logical thinking, like the STEM fields and fields that generally have to do with the hard sciences, meanwhile women are underrepresented in these fields. Our brains are wired differently because we have different biological roles. Logic predominates in men because we have to create things and fix things. Emotion predominates in women because they have to raise children and take care of the family and the well-being of mankind.

I still can't believe people deny basic biology.

>>34442477
Are you sure it's only about physical ugliness?

I'm fairly sure it has a lot to do with their internal ugliness of attitude and lack of empathy and humanity.

>>34442508
I never said "all". If you think I implied that, you're the one having a delusional outbreak.

If you're twisting my words to try to make me sound like a dumbass, you're only showing how weak your counter-argument is.

>>34442477
A man gets rejected because he's either a) you've made an absolutely terrible first impression, b) unable to talk to a female as if they weren't some sort of alien creature or c) an uninteresting fuck who has no shared interests.

It's not that hard.

>>34442559

Its all about looks actually

>>34442552
The way most people here behave is only a reflection of how the world treats them - with no empathy or humanity. Men tend to have big egos that get bruised easily. Imagine being stepped down on and overlooked all your life. You'd be pretty bitter.

>>34442539
Could also be those were the roles doled out? And that women were told to focus on family at the detriment of their careers? And that the push for more women (and men) to get on the STEM path is a fairly recent one? Bit sure, what you said too.

>>34442538
Oddly enough, I think men who are entirely logical and men without logic are the exceptions. Men and women are complex creatures that don't exist within autistic categories. This is why I hate identity politics so much, from the left or the right (and don't pretend this place isn't about identity politics. It' just as obsessed with male/female relations as tumblr).

>>34442574

This, I reject women because they're ugly, so why wouldn't women reject men because they're ugly? Aren't men and women the same?

>>34442574
And you know this from your experience in getting rejected by multiple women through many trials? Or because some fat retard on a anonymous image board meme'd you into thinking that? Do tell me about your discovery.

>>34442617
Not him but I learned that this is the case from experience. The browner the better

>>34442593
I really don't care about any of this, I am not that anon. I was just telling you why anecdotal evidence is not valid

>>34442557
>1. Men have logic. Women have emotion.
>Men have 10 layers to their arguments
> you can have a deep, logical, fulfilling conversation with a man. You can't have that with a woman.
Not saying 'all' specifically, but very much implying.

>>34442640
Interesting. Now what would you do if an unattractive female came up to you and asked you out? Honesty is key

>Inb4 that wouldn't happen because women don't approach men

>>34442662
Accept the offer. I'm that desperate.

>>34442583
Our physical bodies determined what our roles were in society back then, millions of years ago. You wouldn't see women tracking down a big ass deer, kill it and carry it on their backs for a mile. You'd see them take care of the village or the cave or wherever the fuck they lived, cooking and raising kids.

Nowadays these "gender roles" are being actively messed with by "progressives" and it wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing if it wasn't at the expense of men. With women coming into the workforce, you see all kinds of complications for men, artificial rules that deny man his primal instincts. Man gets told "talking about guns and women like they're sexual objects is bad, you should be ashamed of yourself. Flirting in the workplace is sexual harassment." A nigga can go to jail and have his career ruined if a woman decided to pin false rape charges on him. If you frequent the woman hate threads, you'd know exactly what I'm talking about. Men are castrated so women can get their "fair share" of cool jobs. You'll still never see most women employed in construction or mines or the military or any high-risk job. Statistics speak for themselves - women want the benefits of equality in the workforce with none of the drawbacks.

Men now take their own teeth out because society and hollywood tells them since the age of 3 that they should be gentle and cater to women's emotions and listen to women and what they want. That's how you get a generation of toothless beta faggots who don't know how to talk to a woman. They're scared because women can ruin your life so easily nowadays. Relationships and marriage are death traps. They're shitty deals. You can become a rapist and have half your shit taken in a day and have your life ruined forever. Not that false rape claims happen so frequently, but they do happen and they ruin lives. Divorces happen very frequently nowadays and end especially badly for the man. So why bother being a man when all you get for it is shit?

>>34442662
Give her a chance. I would probably buy lots of makeup and alcohol too.

>>34441530
>Give her a chance. I would probably buy lots of makeup and alcohol too.

And yet you still can't get over her looks. Really gets the mind gears going

>>34442767
And that's the worst part of it all, folks. In order to cater to women and give them that equality, you have to take your teeth out. But when you do, they instantly lose their attraction to you, because you're not a man. You're a toothless, drooling motherfucker with no balls. Like one very smart guy said, man is uncomfortable, becomes strong, builds comfortable civilization, becomes too comfortable, becomes weak. We're now at this part where more and more men are becoming weak every day, because of a shitty upbringing belief system that tells you that anything manly is bad.

>>34442796
I probably can, eventually.

>>34441530
when you realize the girl who was voted ugliest woman in America has had sex, but you haven't.

>>34442924
Words cannot describe how much this hurts

>>34442924
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOLo90XgFzU

post this in all the threads

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>>34443283
this is who I'm talking about, just accept the fact that a man would rather fuck this than a woman would fuck you, THAT'S how undesirable you are.

>>34441530
>Leave wallet on the ground for 18+ years
>Expect nobody to take it
Anon you're a fucking idiot

>>34443339

Don't most women rate men as below average? To the average woman I probably look like that.

>>34442853
I wouldn't be pissed off about this if boomers, women, and TruMales didn't act like it's my fucking fault I was raised to be a spineless beta

>>34441888
>neither me or my fiance were virgins
Stopped reading.

>>34443339
>>34443367
The good news is that there's more things that make a woman attracted to us than just our looks. I've seen a ton of ugly motherfuckers with cuties. They have a pimp mentality, take no shit from women, but they're also good at eating pussy.

>>34443383
It is your fault.

>>34443468
>stopped reading
And forever alone

>>34443518

>eating pussy

Biggest meme of the modern day. Eating pussy(and ass) is an easy way to get HPV in your mouth.

Also, what is this idea where if you see an ugly man and a pretty woman together you automatically assume they're dating? They could just be...relatives, friends, co-workers.

>>34443593
>dude its your fault you were raised to behave a certain way lmao
>dude why didn't you just choose which society and what parents you were born to lmao
>dude why didn't you just pull yourself up by your bootstraps like I did when I was 2 months old and raise yourself like I did lmao
really making me think

>>34441530
goto utah, ive slept with a girl who was a virgin at age 25. i'd rate her a personal 8/10. we did everything but sexual things since she wanted to save it for her future husband.

>>34443636
You decide how things effect you. You're a big boy, stop thinking you're stuck.

>>34443681
oh yeah theyre mormon and served a mission

>>34443629
>easy way to get HPV

And? Nobody gives a fuck about HPV dude

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>>34443705

yeah bro who cares about throat cancer dude you only live once #ITSLIT

>>34443468
Complete and total faggot detected

I'm sure your memes will keep you warm at night

>>34443690
it's the nature vs nurture debate, at the end of the day you can only do SO MUCH to rectify your situation, so stop thinking that 'ha ha it's ur fault ha ha nerd' because it makes you seem ignorant.

>>34443330
ayy lmao

organelle

>>34443719
CDC says <1% of people have the oral HPV strain that may cause throat cancer

Yeah not really gonna live my life like a biggity bitch over that

Even if I was guaranteed throat cancer in old age, eating ass and puss would be 100% worth it. Nobody gives a shit about a tiny risk of a disease

>>34443690
>You decide how things effect you. You're a big boy, stop thinking you're stuck.
Oh okay so you're trying to shill the "dude genetics dont exist lmao" and "dude just literally re-invent yourself by ignoring your entire upbringing just like the TruMales who write the blogs I read lmao" memes

>>34442196
Nigger please.
This site is so diverse that sweeping generalizations make you look like a retard.

>>34442767
Exactly. They were the roles doled out. Now physical limitations mean very little. Get with the program.

>>34443730
This is true, but if you're in a run or a shitty place it's up to you to rectify it.

>>34443825
Nice strawman to argue against. I didn't say shit about genetics. You don't like where you are? Work to get some place different. You don't like who you are, work to be a better person.

>>34444007
Says the cuck who posts literal non-arguments and tautologies

>if you're in a run or a shitty place it's up to you to rectify it
>You don't like where you are? Work to get some place different.
>You don't like who you are, work to be a better person.
yeah brah people who were born mentally ill or who were raped as kids should just pull up their bootstraps, fucking louts

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>>34443967
>now physical limitations mean very little

Really? Then why aren't there any women in high-risk jobs?

>>34444036
Oh, I'm sorry. Are you a mentally ill rape survivor?

>>34443967
>women have wombs because that's the role they were doled out by society
>gender is a social construct

>>34441530
>virgins want chad too
If you'd be my chad you can come ravage me
Sorry bud

>>34441530
I'm a 20 year old female virgin. Before anyone asks, I'm not ugly or fat. You don't have to an hero anymore.

>>34444037
Because they weren't always being courted for those positions. Their role was raising kids, keeping house. That's no longer the reality. I'm sure in a couple generations they will be more represented in those fields.

>>34444067
It doesn't matter since like you said its all my fault :^)

>>34444070
Didn't say wombs. Try again.

>>34444102
Wanna become my girlfriend? I'm fine with waiting until marriage.

>>34444118
It does matter, snowflake. You need to be coddled and insulated from the big bad world.

>>34444107
'represented in those fields'?
you mean hard labor? Are you fucking kidding me? If I ever see a woman raise her hand when asked if they want to work as a construction worker or miner or ANY hard labor position I will be fucking shocked, get the fuck out of here with that.

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>>34444107
>I'm sure in a couple generations they will be more represented in those fields.
Yeah right. I can just imagine a 120lbs woman firefighter carrying a fat ass through fire. I can just imagine a woman operating heavy machinery for 12 hours a day. I can just imagine a woman lifting her own weight in the military. I can just imagine a woman fishing or chopping down trees all day. This shit ain't happening and you know it.

>>34444137
I'm not necessarily waiting until marriage, I'm waiting for someone that I can trust. Pump and dump is my #1 fear concerning guys. But if you want to wait until marriage, I don't mind.

>>34444147
And this is the attitude that tends to keep women out of male dominated fields. You don't think some dykes can do hard labor? You think they'd object to that? Get the fuck outta here with that.

>>34444177
>some dykes
and how many dykes are as strong as men and how many dykes who are as strong as men volunteer to do hard labor?!?!?! tell me.

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>>34444167
I wish more girls cared about that. Where do you live?

>>34444177
for every 200lb dyke theres 30 'qt' women who literally cannot open a jar on their own, it's not a sustainable system you kike.

>>34444163
There are alot of female firefighters. There are a number of female machinists. There are many women in the armed forces. And the numbers keep growing as fields and opportunities open up to them. It is happening, and you know it.

>girl
>virgin

no need to an hero but there's no way to find a woman that hasn't lost her virginity unless she's very religious or horrendously ugly

>>34444177
EXACTLY! Even you aren't entirely lost in the ways of logic. You're implying only a masculine woman can do a man's job because you know that a woman isn't built to work a man's job.

>>34444188
I dunno m8, go do a survey?

>>34444196
What isn't sustainable?

>>34444223
the amount of dykes willing to do hard larbor, it's such an insignificant number that it doesn't even fucking matter. Any dykes willing to do the hard labor are already there anyway, and you rarely see them.

>>34444208
>man's job
Most men aren't cut out do do most of those jobs. But as technology advances, the need for that physical strength dismisses. Allowing even the slightest of beta to do it.

>>34441530
"A female is no longer a virgin once she's fucked Chad and all of Chad's friends."

There, same sentence.

>>34444205
>There are a lot of female firefighters
http://www.nfpa.org/news-and-research/fire-statistics-and-reports/fire-statistics/the-fire-service/administration/firefighting-occupations-by-women-and-race

>3.8%
>three point fucking eight percent - pretty much the same for 20 years

>female machinist
AHAHA

>women in the armed forces
>15%
>As of 2010, the majority of women in the U.S. army served in administrative roles.[86]
>In 2012, two women Marines attempted to go through infantry officer training, both failed the course, and no others had volunteered for the course as of January 2013.[82]

Please keep telling me more funny jokes. I am finding this tremendously fun.

>>34442552
>lack of empathy and humanity
I'm INFP, if anything I have too much of it for my own good.

>>34444245
You rarely see them because being gay is traditionally seen as a stigma. Being a female is traditionally seen as being a liability. As these norms change, then you see a rise in female representation in any given field.

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>>34444269
HAHAHAHAHA GOOD JOB BUDDY IM SURE SHES A GREAT INVESTMENT

>>34441588
I'm not sure if I have a legitimate mental problem.
I am off in some way, but still functional, and the "off-ness" could just be from social isolation/homeschooling.

Regardless: I'm 24 and a virgin.

>>34444192
I don't think there's anything necessarily wrong with people wanting to sleep around, but it's just not for me, you know?

>Where do you live?
Australia. Men who want serious relationships at my age here are nonexistent.

>>34444269
Check those numbers for the last fifty or seventy years. I'm sure there was growth, and there will be even more growth in the next fifty to seventy years (two to three generations). Social norms are changing dude.

>>34444303
If you are 24, female, and a virgin, that's a red flag. There must be something seriously wrong with you, if no guy has wanted you so far.

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>>34441530
>mfw you will never experience how it feels to break a girls virginity

>>34444312
>Australia. Men who want serious relationships at my age here are nonexistent.
Which part? I'm from New Zealand.

>>34444330
I said no to them.

>>34444315
>social norms are changing
biology isn't, unless women decide they wanna be more like men genetically and MAKE MEN INVENT A WAY TO DO IT

do you get it? women are inferior to men.

>>34441530
Some of my older teachers are virgins. They're 40 and nearly insane though. Not a good prognosis for you and me

Why do so many of you want a blood dick on here it doesn't make sense.

>>34444312
>Australia. Men who want serious relationships at my age here are nonexistent.

I would say the same thing about Australian women.

Well, they SAY they want a serious relationship, but they completely lack the ability to commit.

>>34444350
Men and women working to even the playing field. Don't get salty about it. There will be more female representation in most if not all fields in two to three generations.

>>34444389
This will only happen if automation replaces all hard labor and all the jobs that are left are administrative jobs.

>>34444332
The side that's closest to NZ.

>>34444384
>I would say the same thing about Australian women.
I don't disagree, one of my ex-friends from high school went from being a massive prude to having 3 "boyfriends" at once. It's just this age group and maybe our country's dating culture, I guess.

>>34444397
If you say so my lad.

>>34444343
If you say no to every guy, no wonder. Maybe you're a lesbian?

>>34444526
These girls exist. They are fucked up but they exist.

t. knew a 34 year-old female virgin

>>34444423
>It's just this age group and maybe our country's dating culture, I guess.

It seems that way.
I don't like this country very much any more.

>>34444617
Not that this country is very unique in that sense

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>>34444423
>The side that's closest to NZ.
You should be my girlfriend then. Do you like anime?

>>34441530

Every woman ends up giving in to Chad. They do it to feel "validated" because their only self-worth is being a hole for Chad. They actually think whoring around makes them happy.

>>34444634
Not at all.
I've looked at moving to a different country, but from what I hear it's pretty much the same everywhere, at least in the Western world, and more Westernised countries.

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>>34443705
you know that condoms exist right

>>34444772
The West or not, I hear it's exactly the same in South America

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>>34441530
OP THERE'S STILL HOPE

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/03/on-late-in-life-virginity-loss/284412/

12.3% of women aged 20-24

WE'RE ALL GONNA MAKE IT HAHAHAHAHA

I thought the number was much lower, but I guess there might be some hope for me and you

Please don't end it, there could be a qt right around the corner

Also, how old are you?

>>34445385
>2014
m8, check your calendar. Check the current year. It ain't 2014. I've noticed it going to shit since then.

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>>34442205
>muh insecurity meme
REEEEEEE stop with this normie bullshit. The robot that started this thread, just like me, wants to meet a nice girl to marry and spend the rest of his life with, in a loving relationship. Women never forget their first, and if she isn't a virgin, it will never be the same.

It's called a preference. Not everybody wants to have sex with a bunch of people before settling down in a loveless marriage in their late 30s

>>34445413
I-it can't have gotten THAT much worse in 3 years, can it? I've noticed women are more slutty than 2014, but it can't have dropped that far from 12.3 percent, mayble to 10 percent.

>>34445420
>assuming it will be loveless
That shows the kind of mindset that you have.

>>34445479
I estimate 5 percent at best

>>34445495
A simple hyperbole. The fact is that those kinds of marriages are almost always less happy than younger marriages, because both sides are more or less jaded, and nothing feels special anymore. Other than the statistics on this thing that some other bot provided, all sorts of anecdotes reinforce this.

>>34445328
Yeah, I've heard similar.
I looked at Eastern Europe, since I bought into the "Eastern Europe is traditionalist" meme, but after speaking to a few young people from there, it's apparently just the same, or only a few years off being that way.

I don't just want to find somebody to marry, I want a nice society and culture to raise my children in, and it really doesn't look like that exists.

>>34445571
Society can eat a dick, I'll make my own society from my own descendants. I live in a place where I can do that.

>>34441588
I haven't had sex and I'm 21 but I probably fall under the mental illness catagory. Here goes. .
I for thing men are really capable of loving us. "Us" being the part that isn't our bodies. Being that all I really want is mutual love obviously I never gave it up as I never found a guy willing to wait more than a month for it.
Maybe I'm unlovable in particular for some reason but from what I hear from men..they really only care about our bodies . They think everything else about us is disgusting.
Anyway since I'll never find love I'll never have sex and I'll die a crazy cat lady while men call me a "feminist lesbian" for being frigid.
I really hate men sometimes but I know it's just my loneliness talking

>>34445525
>The commonly quoted numbers are overstated myths, the more accurate numbers reflect complex factors, and that our society really has two very separate divorce rates, a lower rate (by half) for college-educated women who marry after the age of 25 and a much higher rate for poor, primarily minority women who marry before the age of 25 and do not have a college degree.

>>34445634

You can't take your only idea of men from 4chan and /r9k/. This is where bitter virgin men dwell. We think sex will save us but it won't. We want the same thing you do, a real relationship. Men dream about sex during puberty so we end up chasing it but it's not because we don't care about women.

Gotta understand that for men, being a virgin is shameful and bad, being a virgin for women is good and something you can be proud about.

I'm a virgin female. Average in looks though. Maybe a 6.5/10 or 7/10 on my absolute best day.

>>34445593
>I'll make my own society from my own descendants. I live in a place where I can do that.

I don't know exactly how that would work, but either way I am envious.

>>34445695
It shouldn't matter either way, male female/virgin non virgin.

>>34445713
I know myriad 3/10s who aren't. Of course, they're treated like 7/10s here because of the gender ratio here

>>34445695

Also have to understand that for guys, sex=love. If a woman has sex with you, it means she likes you so much that she got naked for you and is having sex with you willingly and risking getting pregnant with your kid.

We just want to be loved by women.

>>34445723

I know but the way society is today, men are mercilessly shamed for being virgin. Just look at the movies. It's why men lie about it all the time. It's an embarrassment for you to be a sexual loser and to go unwanted by women.

>>34445695
I didn't I got it from being unfortunately curious and paying attention to what men say about women behind closed doors. Literally and figuratively. Men think we're children and will probably replace us with sex robots and artifical wombs because we're nothing but a liability in society due to being emotion driven.
And I can confirm we're emotion driven as I lay up at night obsessing over why men reject us as people continuously.
This is what happens when a girl is born with autism friends. Black pill and eventual suicide.

>>34445772
>it's an embarrassment
That's because the patriarchy sets the standard. Smash the patriarchy, be set free.

I know a qt asian girl who has only ever fucked a fat weeb loser with a 3 inch dick

she strictly only dates asian guys though

>>34445813

It's just banter. Men love women, we just hate how emotional you are, your personalities are usually annoying, and you usually cause a lot of problems.

Men want to relax and have fun in relationships, not have to have problems thrown on them.

>>34445634
>I for thing men are really capable of loving us. "Us" being the part that isn't our bodies.

It's a little difficult to explain, but I see sex as being a very strong expression of love, I really can't separate the two.
I can't really even imagine having sex with a girl without loving her.

That's just me though, I'm sure a lot of men just like it because it makes their penis feel good.

>>34445772
Nah you want to be loved by a pure Virgin that hasn't been tainted and who's weak minded enought to be molded into your slave.

>>34445883

There's a reason why. If you aren't a virgin, then it means that you've (supposedly) loved someone else though. If you loved someone else and left them, then how can we trust you not to leave us? Especially virgin guys here.

Not only that, but if you aren't a virgin, then you probably have an STD. Also some guys find it gross to be with someone that's been with another men.

>>34445862
Hmm. I smell inconsistencies
>women are emotional
> women are not as rational
> women are dependent
This is what makes us different correct?
Yet
>you hate us for having emotions
> you hate us for not being as rational
Me thinks you just hate women after all men.
But I'm no scientist ..

>>34445938

Who likes someone that's bitchy and crying all the time? Guys hate bitchy women, and most women get bitchy at a certain time of the month. Mood swings are bad.

>>34445920
Long term relationships are not maintained by the initial spark of a first love. It's impossible to feel giddy about the same person forever Imo.long term relationships are always a type of settling for what you have whether it's your first or 5th.

>>34445974
Yes thank you for proving your point. You hate us. I shall continue with my singleness plan.

Work on improving yourself and become a healthy, self-sufficient young man. With success comes confidence.

Then go get to know some Amish teenage qt that's not the extremely orthodox kind but also conservative enough, and propose to her or something.

I was a virgin til I was 18 and everyone wanted to fuck me in hs. Haha..Regardless you shouldn't care if she is or not. The past is the past.

>>34446067

Just because we don't like some things about you doesn't mean we hate you. I'm sure women hate some things about men.

>>34446056

Virgin guys don't understand that. There's also that special something of being a girl's first time, that you were so special to her that she gave her virginity to you. Guys also think that a virgin woman would make for a more stable and lasting relationship because she's never been with other men.

>>34446056
>It's impossible to feel giddy about the same person forever

You're objectively a failure as a social creature.

You don't even need a sex drive or a biological incentive to develop loyalty and caring naturally for a friend that you would never betray for someone else. Let alone if you have those to motivate you as well.

>>34446121
>Guys also think that a virgin woman would make for a more stable and lasting relationship because she's never been with other men

Wrong, it doesn't matter what guys think, because it's objectively true that they do, just based on statistics.

And on the fact that a virgin wife has never let their significant other down, whereas 100% of non-virgins are usually psychopaths incapable of forming an emotional bond except in the rare case where they actually loved the guy but he abandoned her arbitrarily, which on the other hand speaks of poor judgement and social stupidity, and in that case you could trust her heart but you couldn't trust her head to not get confused.

>>34446162
I'll give it 7/10. Pretty good, but you went too overboard.

>>34446178
7/10 as in what, are you implying this is bait?

No it's not bait, I'm just autistic and bitter but I'm also right my dude.

>>34446056
>long term relationships are always a type of settling for what you have whether it's your first or 5th.

I do agree with this.
But I feel like a girl who is still a virgin has a track record of being able to commit to something, namely not letting Chad plunder her holes.

>>34446162
You need to look for a college educated woman 25+ if you're really looking for a ltr. Their divorce rate is like 20%

>>34446192
Virgin girls cheat all the time. Lots of nonvirgin girls are loyal. There, you were objectively proven wrong.

>>34446119
>The past is the past.

Would you hire an "ex" drug addict to work at a pharmacy?

>>34446208
A girl who is still a virgin has a track record of mental issues or being fat.

>>34446219
>having sex is a bad thing, as bad as being a drug addict

>>34446162
Lmfao you're insane and terrible at making a convincing argument. Kind of doubt you have any actual experience.

You gotta look at the way the world is and realize that most social and desirable women have probably had sex by 17-18. Not their faults ..doesn't make them whores ..makes them young and impressonable and also that's what most people do.

The kind of girl you want..her virginity doesn't matter. What matters is how she treats herself and others. For example..I tend to be very choosy with who I date and only move forward when I think I'm in love. Then I'll have sex with them because we're giving each other an honest chance to be in each others futures.

You should listen to me and look elsewhere for advice. This board is full of confusion and hate. I'm a woman with a psych degree, I'm happy and have great relationships. Hope that helps

>>34446212
>virgin
>cheating

That's an oxymoron

Unless you're implying girls that have a hymen but suck several cocks are "virgins" or something

>>34446219
>>34446228
A better comparison wouldn't allow any foreign national into your army or political administrations. Split-loyalty is treason.

Anyone that's ever had loyalty to someone else isn't exclusive and therefore isn't trustworthy.

When you've given your all once you can never have a special someone again, because you can never top what you've already done.

>>34446228
It's about likelihood of falling back into past habits, not the harm of what the habit is.

>>34446232
There's emotional cheating as well. Intimacy and betrayal come in many forms.

>>34446271
>you can never top what you've already done
I'd prefer to think we all just don't "plateau" our first go of things.

>>34441530
>I don't even care anymore if the girl is white. All I want is any pussy that Chad hasn't already ravaged.

Go for muslim girls senpai, they're pretty serious about their virginity. on the other hand their anus might be severely damaged

>>34446229
I look at how the world is

Women aren't loyal to men

Men shouldn't be loyal to women

Empathy, monetary support and co-operation are things that require loyalty. In this day and age apparently only heterosexual males are capable of this towards each other.

The trick to making the world a better place is destroying alimony or finding ways to not ever pay it and inseminating as many women as possible

That's it

>>34446056
Sad outlook on life. Why even bother?

>>34446272
Having sex is a bad habit. Okay.

>>34446208
Or she's like me and commited to not ever letting men hurt her ever and is only a virgin because she thinks most men are abusers and is terrified of them. If I were a man, I'd take a girl that's had sex in a stable relationship over a nut case pure Virgin like me any day. I'd date you for a month and leave you with blue balls when, not if, I decide you're lime all other men that only want my hole's. :)

>>34446271
This is why you will die alone, as a kissless virgin.

>>34446130
Only men are taught about loyalty outside of romantical persuits.

>>34446317
When you do it with other people besides your partner, yes it is.

>>34446325
You're refreshingly honest. Want me to take your virginity?

I'm 22 y.o and a kissless virgin...why would you want a virgin girl? It would be boring in bed and also there's the chance of her being mentally damaged and ugly (as me maybe). You'll probably end up being victim of a very clingy person that will need a lot of reassurance and validation.

>>34441530
My mum was a virgin up until my dad met her, which was 18-19 I guess. She had OCD and was very shy, but doesn't mean she wasn't self-absorbed though. She has a story about this geeky guy who turned up in a fancy car to take her out, and she got her own mum to say she wasn't there. Though to be honest who would say yes to some physically unattractive guy who turns up unannounced

>>34446337
>When you do it with other people besides me, yes it is.

Fixed that for you. Your problem is thinking that sex is always bad unless it's with you.

>>34446314
Your stats are off there. Men are still more likely to cheat on women. And that's a dumb way to approach things because you're not giving it a chance to unfold. I can say with the utmost certainty that because I have been so selective and honest in my partner choice, I have never cheated or been cheated on. I honestly come on here to try and use my experience to shed light on you guys. I know people troll and role-play or talk down but I'm being serious. It just comes down to respecting yourself and others. You can't see anyone for what they are if you're Constantly projecting your fears kn them

>>34446325
Not who you were responding to. If I was a dating a girl who was a virgin I would not expect her to put out in a month, or in any quick amount of time. Hell, I'd be fine waiting until we got married, if that's what she wanted to do.

>>34446317
Giving out loyalty non-exclusively is an inhuman habit, retard, and it's been punishable by death for a good reason for basically as long as human society has existed.

Imagine having an enemy or a competitor in any field of life and finding out that your friend has been co-operating with them in the past or in the present.

If it's in the past, you should just not be friends with that person, if it's in the present, you should take your revenge.

It has nothing to do with sex, actually.

>>34446347

Everything you just described applies to male virgins too which is why male and female virgins should just be together.

>>34446347
>You'll probably end up being victim of a very clingy person that will need a lot of reassurance and validation.

Fine with me.

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>>34446372
>wait until married
>to find out she's a terrible lay

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>>34446347
>You'll probably end up being victim of a very clingy person that will need a lot of reassurance and validation

That is all I want senpai

>>34446382
>fine with me
That won't be a healthy relationship at all.

>>34446383
>wait until married
>to find out she has a penis

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>>34446351

You're retarded if you think this is an issue of insecurity.

>>34446347
>boring
Gee, new shoes are uncomfortable, I suppose I had best let other men break in my shoes for me.
>Clingy
"Clingy" in the sense of less likely to cheat and divorce? Yeah.

>>34441803
>mormon girls haven't fucked before they commit to their beta provider.

kek

>>34446383
I don't care. That's not the most important thing to me. Your attitude is degenerate.

>>34446376
>A girl who was in a relationship with someone who is not me is a disloyal whore

This massive insecurity is why you will die without having ever kissed a girl.

>>34446397
>wait until married
>to find out she's into scat

>>34446395
Speak for yourself. I know what I would be comfortable dealing with.

>>34441530
>craigslist
>check your prices

>>34441888
Your marriage has a higher chance of ending in divorce.

You have left or been left before and it's more likely for you to happen again

>>34446398
>women are like shoes
>I want to hold a dominant emotional position over my partner
Good luck in life nigga

>>34446121
I'm both the first and second poster you replied to. My rationality and emotionally fucked side are at war I know.
The way men talk about us in general makes me think they do truly just hate us. Maybe it's not true but the idea that they only put up with us for sex has never been in any way over turned.

>>34446316
The lose of the giddy feeling isn't something that wants to make me end my life. If I could find someone that respected me and enjoyed my company and vice versa id be happy with that.
I might end my life one day but it won't be over the fuzzies not being as intense as the first kiss

>>34446407
And your attitude is sour. Lighten up faggot

>>34446358
I don't care about individuals, I care about probabilities.

It's safer to pretend you care but always prioritize the fact that not a single other person can benefit from you in any shape or way other than feeling good about your company.

Maybe if I had a consistent experience of someone actually being content with that for like 10 or 20 years the possibility of actual love would open up.

"Trusting" a woman is a statistical risk, my subjective opinions about whether or not a person is likable don't change that.

Bottom line is, unfortunately, that you can't humanize women who are married to the state, at least not in places where the state is an ideal husband.

>>34446431

>too autistic to understand analogies.

Let me put it this way, sexual experience really isn't hard to get. A girl doesn't need to fuck the football team to learn how to do things other than just lay there.

Have fun settling for used goods. They're more likely to cheat, divorce, etc. I'm sure it'll be worth it, though. You'll be special to her, after all.

>>34446421
>I'm comfortable dealing with
Because in a relationship, what's most important are your own selfish needs.

>>34446439

Men equate sex with love, I already told you. Men want to be loved by women, especially young and beautiful women.

I don't know how it is for women, but it seems women equate sex with value. Their worth is what kind of guys they have sex with and what they can get by giving out sex.

>>34446427
>2017
>still believing in meme graphs from 20 years ago created by religious anti-sex group

>>34446411
Dude what, no she's not

She only becomes a whore the second she would try and start a relationship with me AFTER that

It's actually trying to partner up with me after someone else she loved that is the crime

It's more of a betrayal to the other guy before me, and when that's the first practical sign of someone's personality, how can you feel good about it? You only could if you had a habit of doing the same and you wanted to fuck her over to begin with.

>>34446455
In what universe does "something I'd be comfortable dealing with" equate to "something which I desire"? There are personality flaws I would accept and flaws I would not. That is one that I would be fine living with. If that indicates selfishness to you, you are probably autistic.

>>34446398
To each his own I guess...If I were a man I would never pick a girl that doesn't even know how to give a bj.

Of course I'm glad I don't have STDs but happy? AYyY Lmao

>>34446450
Actually college educated women 25+ sit at a twenty percent divorce rate. Those are great odds. Enjoy teaching your dead fish to swim little nigga.

>>34446325
>Or she's like me and commited to not ever letting men hurt her ever and is only a virgin because she thinks most men are abusers and is terrified of them.
>when, not if, I decide you're lime all other men that only want my hole's. :)

I know you're probably going to think I'm trying to manipulate you or something like that, but for what it's worth, I'm not.

I understand why you're cynical.

I really hope one day you can find somebody who will show you what it feels like to really be loved for who you are.

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>>34445420
i miss him dudes

>>34446492

I will never understand this meme. What, you can't work through sexual problems with someone you love and have them do things you like and vice versa?

Like, how is that even an argument?

>>34446465
That's pretty accurate to how we see sex..well that and wanting to make our lovers happy for affectionate reasons.

>>34446485
No, what indicates selfishness is the notion that youre fine with being with a clingy girl needing constant reassurance because she's "less likely to cheat". Meaning you want to hold a dominant emotional edge over your partner. That's not healthy my man

>>34446465
I'm a woman and

No.
Sometimes women revert to that but that's more crisis type survival. We sex who we love. Also >>34446447
The statistics prove men to cheat over women but what you're forgetting is the bond you build with that person is what's going to influence that probability. What..do you plan on being standoffish with someone for 10 years before deciding to love them? Doesn't work that way. Anyways..it's a risk worth taking. You'd rather be alone when you could potentially make a connection incomparable to anything else? I used to do that. I rejected everyone until 19 then fell in love .. tried to avoid it.. couldn't ..learned what a real relationship was like. Haven't had a bad experience since

>>34446528
No I want a girl that is a virgin. If that means she will be clingy, then so be it. That is the poster I was responding to originally said. If she is not clingy, that's fine too. That simply is not a determinant for me.

>>34446502
How do you know what you like until you try it? What if you really like it but she doesn't? What if she really likes it but you don't? What if there's just no heat there? What if the sex is just BAD? What if you just don't mesh sexually? That's alot to risk before "buying the cow" so to say.

>>34446473
Even if it was the guy's fault? She had a choice: continue forever in a shitty, miserable, abusive relationship or improve her life by leaving him and eventually finding someone better.

But it's a moot point as no girl will ever be interested in you.

>>34446439
>The way men talk about us in general makes me think they do truly just hate us

This is something I can't understand about women.

When you try to talk about something you feel is a pragmatic obstacle that needs to be gotten rid of, they take it as a hateful statement, as if it's personal and fueled by emotion, when it's truly an aspiration for the better and to eradicate problems arising from it.

This female reaction applies to almost all issues that concern human interaction in any way.

>>34446553
Why do you want a virgin girl? There is no rational reason. Only insecurity.

>>34441530
If you want a Virgin girl you have to accept that she won't fuck you until you marry her.

I was a virgin until 23. ( 2016) only have had sex 3 times. I thought I would marry the guy but he broke up with me

>>34446555

I'd gladly give up all that garbage to be with a woman that loves me and is loyal. Sex is the very least of what I'm interested in a relationship. As long as penis goes into the vagoo, that's good enough for me.

I don't understand this shit where all fetishes have to be acted out like it's a porno. Just because you find it hot doesn't mean it should be done in real life.

>>34446553
How is that not a determinant for you? Have you dealt with clingy, emotionally insecure women before? And if so, for how long?

>>34446573
>Insecurity hurrrrrr

No point explaining. You get it or you don't.

>>34441530
My ex-gf and my last fwb were both virgins when I met them.

>>34446577
What if she's into pegging. Like super into it?
>fetishes
>not to be reenacted
Heh.

>>34446560
I'd be oblivious if no girl were interested in me.

When I was an awkward teenager I was retarded enough to screw up my relationship with an impressionable 5/5 virgin girl, she continued to have relationships where she got fucked over and she's a complete ruin of her former self nowadays, I could never imagine getting together with someone like that.

See, you can't change the past. If I've had something like that, I know it exists, and I know women ruin it with their conscious choices.

I won't settle for less, and that's objectively not too much asked from me or from anyone else, because there's enough men for women and vice versa.

But really this is just because like I said, every single woman is married to the state, they already have a caring husband.

This only makes human males walking dildos and I'm not having it.

>>34446595

Let me guess, you're black or hispanic and they were both white women?

Literally how can white men even hope to compete? All women know that black men are the best men on the planet.

>>34446601

Okay, so you're argument is that if I don't accept her pegging, then she can never be in a happy relationship with me. Your argument is that our entire lives are dictated by our fetishes. Is that right?

>>34446579
Of course he has never dealt with any girl before.

/r9k/, where kissless dateless virgins are experts on relationships.

>>34446574
>If you want a Virgin girl you have to accept that she won't fuck you until you marry her.

I'm more than okay with that.
Somebody who can stick to her values like that would be a good mother and a great role model for our children.

>>34446604
You sound exactly like the kind of guy that women need to avoid. You're controlling, insecure, and probably abusive.

>>34446657

The question is why do women even come here at all. To enjoy virgin male tears?

>>34446574
Lesson learned: never date robots. Go for Chads, they make better and more loyal bfs.

>>34446618
People like me and you are different from them. They are basically unbridled hedonists. The only thing that matters to them is pleasure, they have no room for restraint or ideals. They live on a different planet, mentally. I think there's really no point explaining because they can't understand.

>>34446670
The question is why virgin males even come here at all.

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>>34441530


originalayonaise

>>34446347
That implies non virgin women aren't boring in bed.

>>34444315
>been the p much the same for 20 years
>L-LOOK FURTHERRRRR. EVEN IF ITS JIST A LITTLE BIT
Wew lad look at this normie backpedaling. besides any growth in female blue collar demographics (mainly the "cool" ones, like policemen and firefighting) that you have to go that far back fo can just be attributed to the 1st and 2nd waves of feminism, when they got their opportunity to do whatever, and tried out the "boys jobs". Also lets not forget the lower standards for women

>>34446618
No, my argument is, sex is a large part of any healthy relationship. Its not the only thing, or the most important thing, but it's a thing that's either mutually required, or mutually optional. Knowing whether or not you're sexually compatible with your partner is extremely important. This is something you'll only find out thru experience. And you (and she) won't even know what flips your (and her) switch until you experience it; independently with other partners, or together with trial and error and compromise.

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>>34446683
That wasn't her. Probably just the Pedojew roleplaying again.

>>34446695
>Knowing whether or not you're sexually compatible with your partner is extremely important.

This is a post birth-control era meme.

>>34446680
No we understand because we were you. You can't understand us because you've never been us. You're the inferior here, lacking knowledge and skill.

>>34446711
i still think my point remains

>>34446571
What exactly are you referring to?
Men talk about us like we're only useful as sex objects and baby makers and when we try to be anythung more they hate us for even trying. what about that us constructive in any way? How am u supposed to see that as anything but hate for what we are?

>>34446383
Greek/Roman where having recreational sex with other men for a reason.

>>34446695
The vast majority of people just have NORMAL SEX.

It's incredibly unlikely that you or your partner are going to have some sort of bizarre but absolutely essential fetish that must be fulfilled for you to have a normal sex life.

>>34446668
You're practically right, however, I never express those things or force them on others, I keep them in my head. There's nothing wrong with being controlling if you mean what I think you mean, and I want my woman to have that trait as well. It would disgust me if she complied with me out of fear and not out of love.

I'd feel the same sadness as if I was a weak and unintimidating man that a woman who doesn't love me would dare stand up against, because ultimately in either case there would be no love, women just don't talk badly of intimidating men.

I've never heard the word "insecure" in the real world, only here where I can honestly be someone else than the "outgoing dude with the best jokes" as the normies would say

>>34446724
If it's any consolation, I hate you with every fiber of my being.


Hate hate hate hate hate hate

>>34446690
Nah nigga, look at feminism. Look at the push for female equality. That's the determining factor in those numbers. So you wanna check to see what effect feminism has had in the representation of females in a given field. And I'm still waiting, nigga. I want those numbers.

>>34446750
You're talking about respect not control

>>34446715
>t. virgin

I swear I'm original.

>>34446779
Feel free to explain how widespread unmarried sexual experimentation was possible prior to birth control being invented.

>>34446573
I'd like to share first experiences with her, and not just sex.

>>34446724
I see myself as mainly a provider and a protector when I try to think of my appealing characteristics to the opposite sex. Does that mean I hate myself?

What do you mean by being "more than that"? Conversating and forming a bond? Doesn't that happen automatically for you to even be in a relationship in the first place?

>>34446746
You've never had sex so you don't know what it's like to have normal sex with someone that you're sexually incompatible with. It's like trying to dance the waltz while your partner is doing the tango.
Go ahead and believe whatever you want, but you're speaking from an unknowledgable position.

>>34446670

Women come her because they love the suffering of others. It's their nourishment. They come here to recharge after being on /soc/ and getting whored around. It makes them feel better about themselves.

>>34446808
You can do that and it will work out well as long as you're honest the entire time. That's the most important thing. My boyfriend and I didn't have sex for months and neither of us were virgins/ being shy about it

>>34446814
>It's like trying to dance the waltz while your partner is doing the tango.

Sounds like something I could enjoy with a person I loved.

>>34446796
Another anon said something about Greeks and Romans buggering men that they probably weren't married to. Would that be considered widespread sexual experimentation? Also, how old is the kama sutra?

>>34446846
>that doujin
jfc
buckets of cum

>>34446844
No. We're talking about between men and women, or specifically fucking many different people until you find someone "sexually compatible" before you get married.

>>34446838
>you can share this first experience if you're honest about having done it first with someone else

Fuck off idiot whore

>>34446767
Then what are you talking about?

How do you presume my "controlling personality" would manifest itself?

>tfw no bf to take my virginity and be the only cock will ever be in my pussy

>>34446717
Former robots understand robots the best. And yet it's those that robots reject the most angrily and violently.

>>34446813
I've been in relationships where I THOUGHT they enjoyed my conversation but looking back I think they were simply humoring me in order to sleep with me.
It's really amazing what holding sex back will reveal about a man that supposedly enjoys your company.

>>34446898
>Chad burned me and pumped and dumped me like a rag
>ALL men are fucking evil and bad

No, you just have bad judgment. There will always be guys looking for easy women to prey on so they can add another woman under their belt.

>>34446878
Stop being insecure is what a jaded used up roastie would say.

>>34446813
And no it doesn't mean you hate yourself.
To even be a provider in the first place you need to have merit. Merit meaning the intelligence to make a living and the strength and bravery to defend.
Having a womb doesn't give you any personal value at all.

>>34446898

Men have testosterone, of course they want sex you idiot. Holding that against him is sexist.

Do you expect a man to just ignore those feelings? that's like telling a hungry person to stop being hungry.

Fucking women i swear to go you have no idea.

>>34446917
I have never in my life had sex. I haven't even come into contact with a penis.
You don't need to have sex to learn what men think about you.

>>34446839
Okay have at it my man. Don't get mad at me that you can't get a good stroke because the two of you are fucking to a different rhythm.

>>34446988

Then what are you crying about? You were with assholes. Does that mean all men are assholes? I don't understand the logic.

>>34446983
I am indeed a sexist and so are you. Move on.
I'm not holding their sex drive against them.
I simply believe that men generally hate women for who we are by nature and they only pretend to enjoy our conversation in order to get sex.

>>34446854
Oh, yeah I'd assume that's something that's happened increasingly more since the 50s or so, atleast in America, I can't speak for all cultures.

>>34446898
>holding sex back

Being friends with them, that is?

So wait, did you feel actual constant desire for those men or was it really about humoring you?

I don't see why my female partner should care about me explaining to her the adjustments I made to my car, I'd expect that there's a desire between us without anything like that and I'd expect to have more in common with other men in that regard. These male-female discrepancy things are joked about when you're with your same-sex friends.

Of course topics such as each other, the future, children would be naturally interesting as well as shared passions for activities that we could enjoy together. I also like to converse philosophy and politics with women to learn how different their thought patterns are compared to men's, as they tend to consider my pragmatic solutions cold and evil whereas men consider them revolutionary and ideal.

In short, I don't know what you expected by just offering conversation to a man, you'd have a hard time being more relatable than another man.

But do tell me, what happened? Because if you had been with them in a constant relationship before and you started showing less interest in the man and turning him down, it's to be assumed you're the one that's lost interest.

>>34441530
Naaaaaah, see, your virgin obsession will only lead you down the path of wizarddom.

Everybody wants their first time to be special, especially for girls, because of people like you (read: Arabs) there's a "premium" on a woman's virginity.

Judging by your post you're probably a basement dwelling frogposting hasn't seen the sun in three days kinda guy.

What makes you think you're worth some girl's virginity?

Your best shot is with a more experienced woman with a fetish for deflowering virgin guys - your dark opposite in effect.

The cruel irony you are feeling currently, is unfortunately a result of your own misplaces obsession for virginity, and the antiquated culture of which your tastes are a mere affectation of.

>>34446898
Holding sex back will reveal if he's a beta cuck or not. No self-respecting man would stay in a relationship where the girl is holding sex back.

>>34446883
Agreed. But one of the lurkers might be helped by the back and forth so it's not always fruitless.

>>34447014
It's not about men being assholes
It's about them not being able to love us for who we are.
ValI'd or not, u cannot help being hurt by it deeply as I am an emotionally fragile being. Do not assume my hurt means I see your reasons for hating us as wrong.
It's simply a reaction to rejection.

>>34446917
>she had sex with someone who is not me
>hurr that's bad judgement

>>34447028
You are correct. Our current situation is extremely abnormal in respect to human relationships.

>>34447060

So just hate the men you were with and move on and look for better men.

>>34447063
>have sex with someone you thought loved you
>turns out they don't care about you at all and just wanted sex
>this is the fault of all men

>>34447067
And you presume that's a bad thing?

Were are the beta males. Natures designed it so that we have to settle for alphas sloppy seconds or die withot reproducing. Nothing you can do about it.

>>34447053
That's why I do try to help out even though 99% of the time it's angrily rejected. Once in a while you do find a robot who actually wants to improve his life. Those make it all worth it.

>>34447048
Maybe but cutting all contact means he saw no value in me as a relatable human and only as a sex object.

>>34446942
And in turn, a woman is the provider of good genetics for the offspring.

Essentially for both sides their genotype and phenotype is prominently featured in either role, perhaps the male having more emphasis on his phenotype.

I don't see why good genes shouldn't be looked at as personal worth. They technically are, and they can be considered a success by your parents and a valuable gift from them.

>>34447088
No, it means he saw you for what you are: a waste of time who is not interested in a serious relationship.

>>34447079
Why would it not be?

Pragmatically and according to polls it's extremely ineffective and people aren't happy with their relationships or the lack of them compared to the past.

>>34447033
I'm looking for love which probably doesn't exist. If you cannot love me without sex you don't love who I am at all.
And I can love a man and enjoy his company for that in itself. I don't ghost people just because they have nothing of physical value to offer me. No If I ghost someone at all its because they have nothing to offer me on an intellectual/personal level.
Conclusion: I don't have anything to offer men other than sex.

>>34447088
>male humors you
>receives sex
>hmm
>he must now humor me without receiving anything in return and he must enjoy doing it

This whole concept just seems ridiculous to me.

A partner isn't a court jester, regardless of whether or not you reward him with intercourse for putting on a good performance.

>>34447109
>>34447142
>>34447078
It's not about men being bad or not.