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In this thread I will post quotations narrating the life of Joseph

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In this thread I will post quotations narrating the life of Joseph Goebbels from his birth until he and the Nazi party took power in 1933:

I intend to cover:

>his childhood
>his experience in school
>his experience with women
>his artistic ambitions
>the struggles he faced in Berlin prior to gaining power


If this thread interests you please bump to keep it alive.
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>>34431236
pls. go on

bump
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On his birth

>"He began his life story thus:" Born on October 29, 1897, in Rheydt, at that time an up-and-coming little industrial town on the lower Rhine near Dusseldorf and not far from Cologne."

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On Joseph's portrait of his father

>"Conceding grudgingly that his father would in all likelihood go to Heaven, Joseph would write: 'I just can't understand why Mother married the old miser.' He painted a picture of his father lying in bed three-quarters of the day, then reading papers, drinking beer, smoking and cursing his wife, who had already been about her housework since six A.M."

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On Joseph's attitude towards his mother

>"His sympathies were all with her. 'I owe her all that I am,' he once wrote; and he remained beholden to her all his life. He had his mother's astute features-the face perceptibly flattened at each side, the nose slightly hooked, the upper front teeth protruding"


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Fascinating pls. continue
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On Joseph's sickly youth

>" He remembered his sickly earliest years only dimly. He recalled [_] a bout of pneumonia which he only barely survived. He was always a little mite of a fellow. Even in full manhood he would weigh less than one hundred pounds."

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On Katherina Goebbels praying for her young son

>"in his childhood, there seemed to be nothing she could do for him but pray. Leading him by the hand, she took him to church constantly and, kneeling beside him, she implored the Heavenly Father to give him strength to endure the burden of his physical weakness and his undeveloped body."

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On young Joseph as a shut-in

>"It was obvious to him that his condition was a worry to his parents, and from his early childhood a seam of self-doubt was deposited in his nature. He shut himself away in his little attic room with its sloping ceiling and its single window looking [_] down into a cramped and gloomy courtyard at the back of the house."

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I want to know more, do continue anon.
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On Joseph's early school experience

>"This schoolboy with a large, intelligent cranium, a puny, underdeveloped body and a club foot lived out his childhood to a chorus of catcalls, jeers and ridicule. It was, he later accepted, 'one of the seminal episodes of my childhood_ I became lonely and eccentric. Perhaps this was why I was everybody's darling at home.' He learned how cruel children could be. 'I could say a thing or two about that,' he would sigh in his diary, aged twenty-six. Each creature, he now saw, had to struggle for survival in its own way"

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On young Joseph's relationship with his classmates

>"He was a good scholar and often top of the form, but few liked him, not even the men whose job it was to teach him. [_] Had Joseph not been a crippled, [his classmates] Prang confessed, he would have joined with the other boys to beat the stuffing out of him."

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On Joseph's nickname at school

>"They nicknamed him Ulex after Ulysses, the sly one. Goebbels evidently liked this nickname, which stayed with him during his adolescence."

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bump for more
bunnmmmp
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ein bump for herr goebbels and his autism
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On Joseph's mental torment as a young boy

>"Bathing little Joseph his mother often found the weals on his back caused by one particularly sadistic teacher's cane. Goebbels was a stubborn and conceited boy. Fifteen or twenty years later he would reveal [...] how his mental turmoil both delighted and tormented him. 'Earlier,' he wrote, 'when Saturday came and the afternoon yawned ahead of me, there was no restraining me. The whole of the past week with all its childish horrors weighed down upon my soul. I seized my prayer book and betook myself to church; and I contemplated all the good and the bad that the week had brought me, and then I went to the priest and confessed everything that was troubling my soul.'"

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On Joseph's injury as a young boy

>"When he was about seven, a medical disaster befell him which would change his life. 'I see before me,' he would reminisce, 'a Sunday walk [...]. The next day, on the sofa, I had an attack of my old foot pains. Mother was at the washtub. Screams. I was in agony. The masseur, Mr. Schiering. Prolonged treatment. Crippled for rest of my life. Examined at Bonn university clinic. Much shrugging of shoulders. My youth from then on [...] somewhat joyless.' [...] It defied all attempts at surgical remedy; had the deformation occurred at birth, when the bones are soft, it would have been relatively easy to manipulate them back into the right alignment. Perhaps he acquired it from osteomyelitis (a bone marrow inflammation) or from infantile paralysis."

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On Joseph's early interest in literature

>"Like other children who for one reason or another cannot follow the rough, gregarious life of boys their own age, he took to reading very early on. [...] A new energy was born in him, the energy to read voraciously, precosciously. Neither his parents nor his teachers offered him much guidance. As soon as school was over [...] he shut himself away in his room and read."

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quite enthralling, pls continue
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On young Joseph's intention to develop his intellect and prove his worth

>" When he was ten they operated on his deformed foot. [...] The operation left the pain and deformity worse than before. But his Aunt Christine brought him some fairy tales to read, and thus he discovered in reading a world of silent friends that could not taunt or ridicule. When he returned to his mansard room he began to devour every book and encyclopedia that he could lay his hands on. He would show them: the brain, if properly prepared and used, could outwit the brawniest physique."

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On Joseph's first years in upper school

>"The other boys at the Gymnasium in Rheydt's Augusta Strasse, which he entered at Easter 1908, regarded him as a sneak and know-all. He ingratiated himself with teachers, particularly with the scripture teacher Father Johannes Mollen, by telling on his truant comrades. 'My comrades,' he would confess, 'never liked me, except for Richard Flisges.'"

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On Joseph's academic ability

>" At first he was lazy and apathetic, numbed by the realization of his physical deformity. Then he overcompensated, and later he was never far from the top of the class. His love of Latin came falteringly at first, then in full flood. With biting irony and sarcasm Christian Voss tutored him in German literature [...] His agile brain enabled him to tackle everything, his essays attracted scowls of envy from his fellow pupils."

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pls do continue.
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lurking please carry on goebbels bro
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On Joseph's first attempt at poetry during his early teens

>"Herbert Lennartz, son of his father's boss, died after a minor operation leaving Goebbels grieved and shocked. It moved him to compose his first poem ('Why did you have to part from me so soon?')"

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On thirteen-year-old Joseph's love of Wagner

> At age thirteen he saw Richard Wagner's majestic opera 'Tannhauser' and was inspired by the romantic dive and sweep of the master's music"

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On the death of Joseph's younger sister

>"When Joseph's little sister Elisabeth died in 1915 they all knelt her death-bed and held hands and prayed as a family together for her soul. Joseph composed another poem for her, 'Sleep, baby, sleep.'"

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>>34431365
You must admit that he had some pretty shitty genes. He looks like a manlet and a numale. Nice thread though
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On young Joseph's sexual longing and frustrations

>"Joseph Goebbels reaches puberty at about thirteen. But given his later reputation is it worth emphasising that he will be thirty-three before he first has sexual intercourse with a woman. For the intervening twenty years this brilliant but celibate cripple's life will be a trail of temptations, near-seductions, and sexual rebuffs etched into his memory"

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On the crushes of young Joseph

>"The sexual arousal that he first detects towards this mature female returns when he is fifteen. He harbours secret crushes on women like Frau Lennartz, the factory owner's wife. [...] All of his pals have girlfriends-Hompesch has one enticingly called Maria Jungbluth. Goebbels however senses only a 'dark yearning' as Eros awakes in him."

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On 16-Year-Old Joseph being rejected for service during WW1

>"Among those who queued as volunteers was Joseph, hoping his spirited response to the emergency would be admired. No doubt the others laughed at the idea. In fact, the Army doctor merely glanced at the diminutive and stooping body in front of him and rejected Joseph outright [...] without even bothering to examine him. The boy returned home and locked himself in his room. For a whole day and night he sobbed like a small child. [...] For two days he would speak to no one."

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>>34431679
>and thus he discovered in reading a world of silent friends that could not taunt or ridicule.
Waifus?
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Goebbels was a true robot.

'A child laughs when it feels joy and cries when it feels pain. Both things, laughing and crying it does with its whole heart. We all became so tall and so clever. We know so much and we have read so much. But one thing we forgot: to laugh and cry like the children do.'
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On adolescent Joseph's nihilistic phase

>"Goebbels [...] in company with his friend passed through a phase of nihilism which left a destructive adolescent element in his nature which he never outgrew. In later life he would frequently act with the petulant cruelty of a very young man determined to avenge himself on a society that seems to him insufficiently perfect for his taste"

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On teenage Joseph not knowing where his future lay

>"But what was to become of him now? The priesthood? Goebbels inclined briefly toward medicine, but Voss, his teacher, persuaded him that his real talents lay in literature. Whichever the subject, the university at Bonn it would be."

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On Joseph being asked to provide a farewell speech upon graduating highschool

>"Prang remembers this speech to have been very stilted and pompous, and the headmaster, who did not like Goebbels because of his supercilious manner at school, remarked afterward that one thing at least was certain: Joseph Goebbels would never make an orator!"

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>>34432016
>We all became so tall and so clever
Manlets didn't lel
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>>34431962

>goebbels was a wizard for 3 years

Yup. Goebbels was /ourguy/.
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>>34432049
don't ruin the mood ya dingus
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>>34432049
>>34432083
Sorry, but it was difficult to resist.
Goebbels it's pretty interesting though. He used to be called Dr. Goebbels even by Hitler himself, because he was the only one in the nazi elite to have a bachelor degree.
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On Joseph's early university experience

>"He was to study philology, Latin, and history. Desperately lonely, he lodged in a cold bare room. His aspirations were overshadowed by hunger, cold, fatigue, and ill-health"

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On Joseph's one good friend at university

>"He had made one good friend in the law student Karlheinz Kolsch however [...] 'Pille' Kolsch, as he was known, remained his foppish, loud-voiced, jovial, staunch friend and rival long after their careers had drifted apart. With his modish headgear and yellow gloves, Kolsch became his first role-model."

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On poverty affecting his university studies

>"His funds ran out [...] He was keen to continue at university, but his father could put up only fifty marks per month; Joseph earned a little more by tutoring. He frittered away that summer with Lene on vacation, spending at least one chaste night with her on her sofa Rheindahlen, and committing to his memory that she 'stayed pure'. He left a number of unpaid bills at Bonn, which his father settled."

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On Joseph's university studies

>"At Bonn he studied under Adolf Dyroff, professor of philosophy. He attended the literary seminars of Professor Berthold Lietzmann, and wrote well-regarded essays for Professor Carl Enders on the youthful drama fragments of Johann Wolfgang Goethe"
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>>34431962
>On 16-Year-Old Joseph being rejected for service during WW1
bump keep going
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On Joseph's affection for Anka Stalherm

>"Female students are in 1918 still rarities at German universities, and Anka is a rarity among these. She is reading economics. Her eyes glitter blue-green, she wears her blonde hair hair long with a few strands caught up in a knot on top; her ankles are slim, and her legs are rumoured to be equally divine. She is twenty-three, two years older than Goebbels. With her Ursuline convent education in Germany and England behind her, she has inherited class, beauty, and wealth as well"

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On Joseph and Anka's developing relationship

>"Since Anka is a regular at Professor Hermann Thiersch's seminars on classical archeology, Goebbels signs on for [...] these three-hour lectures. And the miracle happens: Anka Stalherm, this goddess of the mysterious grey-green eyes, she who is coveted by half the males at Freiburg university, saves her smiles for when he walks in, or so it seems to him. She is fascinated by this swift intellect. They go out [...] for strolls up Freiburg's Castle Hill or into the Black Forest. He serenades Anka on a rented piano, and one precious night he sleeps under the same Black Forest roof as her. The [...] students tour the sleepy towns along the shores of Lake Constance, with Goebbels dreamy-eyed in blissful anticipation. At Ravensburg he plays the huge cathedral organ for them."

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On Joseph's continued pursuit of Anka

>" Every detail of her coquettishness remains implanted in his memory-the cigarettes she deftly filches from him, his letter of reproach, her silent rapture when Goebbels reads out his latest epic, his private glee at Pille's jealous suffering, and their reading of Gerhard Hauptmann's 'The Sunken Bell' together in her room, where Goebbels serenades her on the piano but ascertains that she is, alas, 'chastity itself.'"

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>>34431236
pls do this, im bored as fuck
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Goebbels sounds similar to me.
>likes philosophy, Latin and literature
>cries a lot when devastated
>was a NatSoc
>commits suicide
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>>34432385

We hypersensible fags have a talent, dont we?
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Joseph Goebbels. 25 February 1945

>The democracies are not up to dealing with the Bolshevist system, since they use entirely different methods. They are as helpless against it as were the bourgeois parties in Germany over against the communists before we took power. In contrast to the USA, the Soviet system needs to take no regard for public opinion or its people's living standard. It therefore has no need to fear American economic competition, not to mention its military. Even were the war to end as Roosevelt and Churchill imagine, the plutocratic countries would be defenseless before the competition from the Soviet Union on the world market, unless they decided to greatly reduce wages and living standards. But if they were to do that, they would not be able to resist Bolshevist agitation. However things turn out, Stalin would always be the winner and Roosevelt and Churchill the losers. The Anglo-American war policy has reached a dead end. They have called up the spirits, and can no longer get rid of them. Our predictions, beginning with Poland, are beginning to be confirmed by a remarkable series of current events. One can only smile when the English and Americans forge plans for the year 2000. They will be happy if they survive until 1950.
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On Joseph's continued admiration for Wagner

>" He reads from Richard Wagner's diaries, he plays the Master's music to his pals, and he commends to Anka one entry which touches, he says, on one bone of contention existing between them. Her mother is dismayed that they are still liaising; once, Anka asks if his mother is upset too."

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On Anka's departure from university

>" As she leaves Freiburg at the end of July 1918 after one last night of stifled passion, he visits their old haunts. He sits in the forest hut high above the university city, listening to the rain beating on its roof, and imagines himself all alone on earth. He writes her romantic messages. [...] He reminds her of their first hour together, reading the poetry of Theodor Storm. He will miss her, with her dreamy eyes and lustrous golden hair. [...] After she has left the little Castle Hill boarding house, clutching an armful of roses he has bought her, he returns to that meadow and lies all evening thinking about her until far into the night. The next day there is a card from her-she still has his roses in her arms. 'How I envy those roses,' he writes back, the flattery flowing freely from his pen"

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On Joseph's growing political awareness

>"Under the influence of Flisges and his own study of Dostoievsky Goebbels became politically aware. He was now twenty-two and leaning politically to the left"

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On the appeal of Socialism to Joseph

>"When the student Anton Count von Arco-Valley was sentenced for the assassination of the extreme leftwing prime minister of Bavaria Kurt Eisner, Goebbels became curious about socialism. Being as yet more of a literary than political inclination he explored his ideas in a drama, scribbled in an exercise book, entitled 'The Working Classes' Struggle.'"

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It keeps getting better and better.
pls continue
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>>34432016
He doesn't sound like much of a robot compared to Hitler, if anyone remembers that thread by this same guy.
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one of the best threads in r9k
bump
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On Joseph's loyalty to the lower orders

>"One afternoon in 1919 there is a knock at his door in Freiburg and [childhood friend] Richard Flisges walks in, rain dripping from his demob. trenchcoat. An ex-lieutenant, he is back from the wars, decorated and embittered, his arm in a sling. He has failed the university entrance examination and will now turn into a pacifist and agitator against the established order of things. Goebbels listens eagerly to this rootless, ill-educated, disillusioned soldier. He has always had a respect for the lower orders. Writing to Willy Zilles in 1915 he has discounted the poet Horace's theme of odi profanum vulgus et arceo ('I hate the vulgar mob and keep them at a distance') preferring instead the romantic poet Wilhelm Raabe's motif: Hab' acht auf die Gassen! ('Pay heed to the street!')"

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On Joseph's growing interest in social and political matters

>"while Goebbels attends the seminars on Goethe and on the era of Sturm und Drang he begins to think more about the social and political issues scarring the defeated Germany. In the evenings he argues about God; he is beginning to have serious doubts about his religious beliefs."

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On Joseph's poverty and religious dilemma

>"Still poised on an awkward threshold between God and profanity, he recalled four years later his mental turmoil, his yearning for God, his crushing poverty, and Anka's inability to help. Again he pawned his watch and set off, alone, for home"

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Bump

good thread op
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Bump and thanks for this thread
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On an overview of Joseph's life during his early twenties

>"He was very slight in build and his shoulders stooped steeply. He was little more than five feet tall and his weight was in the region of a hundred pounds. He walked with an unmistakable limp, but had become adept at disguising it. He had little money for either food or clothes, so he had to develop his social assets through the conscious development of his personality. [...] In no sense was he either by appearance or mentality the popular conception of an 'Aryan' German. He was more Celtic or Romantic in appearance."

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On Joseph spending the Christmas of 1919 alone

>"That Christmas he found himself alone in Munich, prevented by the Allied occupation authorities from joining his family at Rheydt for the festivities. He stayed in the Bavarian capital, as Wagner's 'Ring' cycle was to be performed at the National Theatre; he found himself strolling through the cobbled, snowswept streets on Christmas eve, entirely deserted save for a police constable wrapped to the ears against the cold. From somewhere came the sound of children singing; and then of a piano- Schubert, the melodies borne through the air, he would later write, as though on angels' hands. 'I know not how long I stood there,' he wrote. 'Only that I sat that evening in a quiet, dark corner of the church of Our Lady and celebrated Christmas alone, as though in a dream."

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On Anka betraying Joseph again and his final letter to her

>"When he next sees her it will be Whitsun. He reads from 'The Seed' to her, but she, the wealthy miller's daughter, is alienated by its leftwing political message. The rift widens. She begins to see his close friend Theo Geitmann. Chagrined, he returns [her] bracelet. He offers her formal engagement; she turns him down. After one unsatisfactory night with him on the chaiselongue and her in bed he pencils a four-page letter of farewell in which he calls out her name appealingly twenty-four times, a romantic torrent of pleas to return to his embrace. 'Is it over really? I have known only you, you were the whole world to me, the most beautiful world that could ever be conceived, and I have lost it-lost it through my own fault.' Perhaps this last night has been a turning point for them both. 'Do you think you'll ever find another who can love you so?' he asks [...]"

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On Joseph's nervous collapse and intention to commit suicide

>"Spending the autumn break at home he reads Dostoyevsky's 'The Brothers Karamazov,' and suffers a nervous collapse. He pens a testament, dated October 1, 1920 in which he [...] wills his poetry and novella to Flisges and his mother. 'Miss Anka Stalherm is to be urged to burn my letters. May she be happy and not brood upon my death.' The final sentences hint unmistakeably at suicide: 'I depart gladly from a life which has become just hell for me.' He folds this into a small envelope, but takes no further action"

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>>34431236

Please go on anon this is interesting
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Bumping with an originalio commentario
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>>34431962
>virgin until 33

No wonder he turned out to be so evil. Ridiculed through his whole life. Physically deformed. Manlet. Inability to connect with others.

/ourguy/
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>>34432995

Women are spoiled whores, its not a meme
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Thread theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2LQdh42neg

F
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>>34432036
>In later life he would frequently act with the petulant cruelty of a very young man determined to avenge himself on a society that seems to him insufficiently perfect for his taste"

We need more men like this to get into positions of power
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>>34433208
>No wonder he turned out to be so evil.
>evil

leave
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>>34431236
I remember you from a couple months ago. I think you're the same person. Just letting you know I appreciate you doing this. Have a great day anon
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Bup
Ory
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>>34431236
man this threads are so cool and so rare
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OP here. Sorry, I thought the thread had died. I went out to buy cookies, pears and energy drink.

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On Anka's first betrayal of Joseph
>"That May of 1919 Anka returns to Freiburg. Kolsch is down there too. Goebbels hurries to join them. A French Negro soldier lets him through the checkpoint at Ludwigshafen. Anka seems cooler, and confesses one morning that she has slept with Kolsch. Goebbels forgives her and kisses away the tears of contrition welling in her eyes."

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On Anka's effect on Joseph's attitude towards women

>"'Anka, thou murderess!' he reproaches her memory, and eight years later her betrayal will still fester in his mind. 'Anka walked out on me,' he will write. 'And my entire relationship to women has suffered ever since.'"

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On Anka's husband threatening Joseph and Joseph's response

>"Since Mumme had now threatened legal sanctions if he did not stop pestering Anka Stalherm, Goebbels took his revenge by rewriting [his novel] 'Michael' to make the heroine suffer as much despair as he."

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>>34433457
>Anka seems cooler, and confesses one morning that she has slept with Kolsch. Goebbels forgives her and kisses away the tears of contrition welling in her eyes."

This and other things are tearing me up

What the fuck, he was truly one of us.
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>>34433308
Never said it was a bad thing nigger
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On the four years after Joseph left university

>"for the next four years he remained perforce a nihilist doing nothing. To the quiet despair of his parents he squandered the pittance that he did earn from his meagre writings or tutoring. Germany meanwhile slithered into economic chaos [...] Goebbels neither noticed, nor protested, nor cared. His head was in the clouds. [...] he lay on his bed at home and drank in Oswald Spengler's writings on the decline of the west instead"

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On Joseph's affection towards a woman named Else Janke

>"One morning he sees a pretty girl in Rheydt and Herbert Hompesch whispers that she is Else Janke, a schoolteacher and orphan. She is well built and motherly; he, so slight that, seeing him from the rear once, she thinks him only twelve years old. He will later describe her variously as 'a rare mixture of passion and prudence' and as 'a lovely, sweet-tempered chatterbox.' Interestingly he will write: 'I often think of her as my mother.'"

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On Else's refusal to make their relationship public

>"To his annoyance Else will not admit to their relationship in public. The crippled Dr Goebbels has much to learn about the mysterious fluids and capillaries that, mixed together, make up the female brain."

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>>34433457
>Anka seems cooler, and confesses one morning that she has slept with Kolsch. Goebbels forgives her and kisses away the tears of contrition welling in her eyes."

What a beta kek

Also. Just proves. All women are the same
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On Joseph's failure to become a published author while unemployed

>"his writings are universally rejected by the big Jewish publishers like Mosse and Ullstein in Berlin. He remarks to Else that you cannot get ahead unless you are 'one of the boys.' Else makes no response. 'My creativity is zero,' he writes. 'Why? Am I a failure?'"

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On Joseph's diary and emotional torment

>"on October 17, 1923 he resumed his famous diary. 'I can't stand the anguish any longer,' he wrote. 'I've got to set down all the bitterness that burdens my heart.' For Goebbels, writing the diary became something of a fetish, an advance programming of his brain for great things to come. He was aware of a messianic sense of mission. 'On guard, friend!' he would admonish the diary [_] 'Make your sacrifice! Fulfil your mission!' And a few days later: 'Who am I, why am I here, what is my task and what my purport? Am I a wastrel, or an emissary who is waiting for God's Word?' And he added: 'Again and again one shining light escapes the depths of my despair: my belief in my own purity, and my conviction that some day my hour will come.'"

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On Joseph's despair during his mid-twenties

>"A deep, unremitting despair had seized him. He bemoaned the God that had created him a crippled weakling. 'Despair, despair!' he lamented. 'I can't bear to live and see all this injustice. I must join the fight for Justice and Freedom! Despair! Help me, O Lord, I am at the end of my strength!!!'"

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>>34433618
Bumpy bump

originality
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>>34433618
Just a question where are you getting all this information? It's so interesting
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>>34433688
OP here. I will post a full list of sources at the end, though in brief the quotations are taken from five biographies I have read through either in part or in full.

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On Joseph's reaction to his best friend's death in the mines

>"one July afternoon in 1923 [...] he received the shattering news that [childhood friend] Richard Flisges had been crushed to death down the mines at Schliersee. He would dramatise his grief, wallowing for months in self-pity; and he rewrote the ending of [his novel] 'Michael' to send his hero down the mines to his death despite a premonition of doom from his landlady"

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On Joseph working for a bank and his growing dislike for Jews

>"Starting at the bank on January 2, 1983 he sees at first hand the unpalatable side of capitalism, and reacts with repugnance to the 'sacred speculation' by the rich and affluential. The country's banks, he finds, are nearly all Jewish. He begins to ponder upon the relationship between das Judentum (the Jewish community) and the Money Problem. The more he looks around the more he perceives the Jews-young Otto Klemperer whom he hears conducting a Gustav Mahler symphony turns out to be a Jew; so does Mahler"

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On the connection between Joseph's failure to publish and his hatred for Jews

>"The more the products of his festering intellect were rejected by unseen editors, the more he saw the Jews behind his torment."

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>>34431236
Welcome back, esteemed anon.
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You know he felt pride for this boy
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On Joseph's years of unemployment and rejection

>"The diaries for the next years show him in a painful light-introspective to the point of obsession, scribbling plays, articles, and critiques for a public no larger than himself and, sometimes, the woman in his life. With dwindling hope but dull obstinacy he kept submitting the little, thirty-thousand word typescript of [his novel] 'Michael Voorman' to new publishers. He felt like a bird with clipped wings. Why even get up in the morning? 'Nothing awaits me-no joy, no suffering, no duty, no job.'"

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On Joseph's speech at a communist meeting

>"Once in June 1924 he and Fritz Prang visited a local communist meeting. Invited to speak, Goebbels was interrupted immediately: 'Capitalist swine!' He rounded on his heckler. 'Here is my purse,' he challenged. 'You show me yours. The one who has the most is the capitalist swine!' The miners and textile workers roared with laughter and allowed him to speak on."

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On Joseph's revised opinion of Wagner in his twenties

>"When he ploughed through Richard Wagner's autobiography he identified painfully with the maestro's anguished struggle to survive in Paris, and his physical suffering. He saw Wagner as a wage-slave enchained by the 'filthy Jew' Schlesinger. 'The philistine today,' noted Goebbels, 'will read that with the comforting reflection that, yes, things were tough for Wagner. That's the artist's lot. "Thank God it doesn't go on nowadays"".

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On Joseph's view of his contemporaries

>" Looking around, he scowled at his smug, shallow-minded, pinstriped contemporaries, their lives dominated by the pay packet, football, and sex, and he understood why the communists hated the bourgeoisie"
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>>34434308
>He saw Wagner as a wage-slave enchained by the 'filthy Jew' Schlesinger
You can't make this shit up. Dr Goebbels is /ourguy)
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Let's go OP where's the rest?
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>>34432036

he looks like a good lookin guy in this pic
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>>34431236
Damn, must be hard to type with his dick in your hand.
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>>34435167
op pls deliver
pls pls
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Does OP ever deliver sources, because I've seen multiple threads like this, and never had sources delivered despite OP saying he'd do it at the end. In short, fuck you OP.
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>>34435286
He did it once I'm sure.

Fuck you dude they're good threads.
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OP here. I don't like spamming so I only post if there seems to be interest in me doing so. I will continue.
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On Joseph's first experience with Nazism

>" The Weimar meeting [in August 1924] was a milestone in his career. He gained immediate inspiration from the well-attended rally at the National Theatre and the shouts of Heil. He saw for the first time the swastika-this curious four-elbowed symbol-and inked it into his diary. He spotted his old lecturer Professor Kaerst from Wurzburg there, at the back, wearing a swastika and noted: 'Et tu, Brute!' 'All these young people who are fighting alongside me,' he wrote. 'It does my heart good.'"

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On Joseph's intention to honour Nazi ideology

>" That afternoon, still an outsider, he watched the flags and swastikas parading-some thirty thousand marching men in his estimate. The tumultuous roars of Heil when Hitler's name was mentioned made a lasting impression. For a while he sat with [childhood friend] Fritz Prang in a bar [...]. Fritz wanted to relax but Goebbels was so keyed up that he talked only about politics, ignoring the come-hither glances directed, he claimed in his diary, at him by the girls all around. He had found a new passion. 'I have begun to think volkisch,' he wrote. 'It is a Weltanschauung, a philosophy of life. Pure chance had decreed that he emerge from his hibernation here on the far right, and not the left."

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On Joseph's admiration for the imprisoned Hitler

>" 'We are all missing him,' he confessed to his diary. In Hitler, whom he had yet to meet, he saw the unifying concept of the movement-'The fixed pole around which all national socialist thinking orbits."

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>>34435309
I just want sauces so I know it's not OP's roleplaying
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>>34435286
>>34435359
OP here. I have previously provided and will provide sources at the end of the thread. If you are curious about a quotation then copy and paste it to google with quote marks included and you should discover the source.
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On twenty-seven year old Joseph writing for a weekly paper

>"Under [...] Goebbels the weekly became readable and hard hitting. He was not happy with his writing style, but practice made perfect and his thoughts flowed fast and free. He installed a sub-office in his parental home. As his twenty-seventh birthday came and went his parents were astounded by the change. He still lounged around unshaven, but he had a sense of purpose. He increased his literary intake still more: he digested ten newspapers each day, and dealt with correspondence until two or three A.M. He began a new article, 'The Basic Problems of Jewry.' His parents stopped nagging. His fame as orator and writer was noised across the Rhineland. True, he was not being paid, but this fame was gratification enough"

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On Joseph losing his job at the paper due to infighting

>"Three days later Wiegershaus invited him to resign, and he cast his lot with [friend and Nazi organizer] Kaufmann instead. His personal life now was overshadowed by a humiliating lack of funds. He was often unable to pay his rent or buy food, but when Kaufmann needed it desperately Goebbels proudly loaned him his last forty marks. They became firm friends; Kaufmann was one of the very few men he addressed as du."

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On Joseph's anger after being forced to resign and return to poverty

>"To forget his own poverty he would crawl, his stomach aching for nourishment, into a church pew to hear St. Matthew's Passion with tears streaming down his cheeks at the beauty of the music. He found it hard to make true friends. He found his Alsatian dog more likeable than many a human being; indeed, he began to hate the human race as he often wrote in his diary""

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>>34435487
>Kaufmann was one of the very few men he addressed as du.

Kek at German autism.
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>>34431399
>Even in full manhood he would weigh less than one hundred pounds."
How?
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On Joseph's fears for the future

>"His romantic escapades left him filed with self-hatred too. Else now rarely wrote to him, having found him juvenile and adolescent. He had started a parallel relationship with another girl, Elisabeth Gensicke, but nothing came of it. 'From year to year,' he reflected, 'I shall be more and more lonely until I end up all alone without love and without a family.' That was his dread"

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On Joseph being evicted from his lodgings

>"his landlord gave him notice to quit his lodgings at No.122 Gesundheit Strasse ('Health Street') in Elberfeld. His parents had sent him 150 marks. 'Damn and blast!' he let fly in his diary, and an unkind Fate, hearing him, responded with a final tax demand for 150 marks"

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On Joseph's speeches as an early Nazi

>"He recognized in himself the elements of a 'ripe old demagogue' and set about refining his delivery. [_] Ruthlessly mixing metaphors, he recorded that the flames would rage on and he would reap later what he was sowing now. Other workers asked to hear the Little Doctor speak. A locomotive engineer brought his mates to hear him in an ugly tavern in the Ruhr. 'I have found a firm objective,' Goebbels wrote, 'one to which my eyes unblinking turn. This objective is: Freedom for Germany!' Over the next year he would deliver no less than 189 speeches, learning to cast off all cant and phoney philosophizing, becoming preacher, apostle, and agitator alike"

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>>34431962
everything in this one is fucking depressing
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On the French occupation repressing the movement and Joseph's avoiding capture

>" The same old grief,' he observed in his diary. 'But an Idea cannot be put down.' And, ten days later: 'Prosecution and arrests by the French_ They've knocked us flat. This is the proof that our Idea is the right one.' He had founded a local group at Krefeld, and often spoke to them: one evening three Belgian detectives appeared, blocked the doors, and asked him if 'a Dr Goebbels' was in the hall. Goebbels replied calmly, 'He's busy right now, I'm speaking on his behalf.' The officials left empty handed."

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On the growing crowds attending his speeches

>" He now drew audiences of two and three thousand with ease. Often there were as many thugs outside, armed with firearms too. At Dusseldorf on October 8, 1925 the communists for miles around packed in, but within minutes he had silenced them and held them in his grip for two hours"

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On Joseph and Adolf's first meeting

>" On July 12 [1925] Hitler called all the party's gauleiters [regional supporters] of northern Germany to Weimar, and it was in a beerhall here that he and Goebbels first briefly met that day."

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>>34436096
I loved Kershaw's works on Hitler. Did you read them anon? Sounds like his style.
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>>34431962
>he will be thirty-three before he first has sexual intercourse with a woman
So he literally was virgin till he was married?
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keep going OP, I'm lurking
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Here's interest OP that means post now
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Why have you read so many biographies on this dude?
Are you a /pol/lack?

Also do biographies ever make you think how you would be in that time period?
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Keep going

comentario original
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more goebbels NOW
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Is mommy kink the most robot fetish?
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Thanks for the thread OP. Most interesting thing I've seen on this board for a while
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>>34437533
>most interesting thing you've seen is literally just a book
Really makes you think

Maybe you should be reading instead of on the internet anon?
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>>34433786
>>"Starting at the bank on January 2, 1983
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This is great, OP. More please?
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>>34431236
This has been a great thread, OP. Care to continue?
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It's quite possible that OP is actually dead
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The history lesson is interesting, but I could do without the Stormfront troll trying to convince us that we are literally Goebbels.

Nazism is evil. Goebbels was evil. It's sad that he was given such a shitty lot in life, but he still became an evil person.
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>>34438484
>>34437851
Did I not say that OP would abandon this thread, after I asked for sources no less! It's time we revolt against this OP, for thread after thread he has lead on the proletariat of /r9k/ and /pol/ yet has failed to deliver the much needed sauces. He hordes the sauce as a miser (OR JEW!) might horde his gold. I accuse him without an ounce of reservation that he is the capitalist DOG of which Goebbels speaks!
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>>34438491
ya and the bolsheviks were killing ethnic germans in russia way longer before the jew holocaust. look up the holdomor. so... fight fire with fire, and remember what goes around.... comes around!
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Please come back OP. I want to see the ending.
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>>34438491
You're brainwashed. Snap out of it.
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>>34438491
>>34439492
>>34438712
What causes the proclivity of robots to sympathize with some of histories most hated villains?

There is a clear connection between the ability to empathize with those who are hated (sometimes for justifiable reason) by mainstream society, and it is because, despite having been a great leader, who had sex with some Czech actress, at the end of the day, Goebbels along with Hitler ended up blowing their brains out as their country collapsed around them. They were losers, but they had taken power of what would become one of the greatest military powers in history. Now they are hated, much like boys who shot up Columbine, or Ted Kaczynski and society does not look towards the cause of their actions. This does not vindicate them, but they are symptoms of a much larger problem, and whether robots can articulate this or not, they can relate to those who have been been judged sick, by what is itself a sick society.
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