Why do people vote Republican? It seems like the only peope who

>>34315045
>Why do people vote Republican? It

I don't want to pay for retarded, DMV tier government programs.

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>>34315045
>not being a businessman
Lmao.
also
>>>/leftypol

>>34315045
Some people don't vote just for what would make their life better

Some people have principle

(government's job is not to make your life better)

>>34315090
if you're a NEET you aren't paying for anything
and if you're not a NEET you should fuck off like the normalscum you are

>>34315109
It absolutely 100% is.

>>34315099
How do I become a businessman?

>>34315090
>this

Also if you are upper middle class (which unknown to leftist isnt that hard to achieve) you have nothing to gain from voting democrat and giving money to dem programs.

>>34315119
Use your brai- never mind.

To be edgy, 3rd party is the only right choice

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>>34315113
>and if you're not a NEET you should fuck off like the normalscum you are

No

>>34315045
Retarded Religious Right.

>>34315142
no surprise the normalslime is using old dead memes

>people convinced to vote against their own self interest using memes
its like an onion article.

>>34315113
There should be a program that forces and helps able bodied/minded NEETs get jobs, or become business people.

While helping the mentally/physically ill financially. Same with their caretakers. This is America, though. It'll be voted against or made so inefficient it should not exist

>>34315045
TRUMP BETTER NOT FUCKING TAKE AWAY MY NEET BUX OR ELSE

>>34315187
>i know whats best for you, shitlord. now shut up and do what i say
This attitude isnt helping

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>>34315165
>normalslime

Try again, kid.

>>34315208
Or else what? You'll be forced to get a job

>>34315045
I vote Republican because I work for a living and don't want my hardworking taxes going to NEETbux

>>34315232
you've already proved you're a pathetic normalslime by being a frogposter
maybe you should try fucking off to where you belong

>>34315045
Why would you vote Democratic if you're white?

>>34315045
That's super easy. I've got traditional values, want as little government interference in my life as possible, want taxes as low as possible, strongly believe in gun rights, don't support illegal immigration, and strongly support our military and police forces.

I've identified as a Republican and what they stand for long before I could even vote. The Democratic platform is so out of touch with me at this point that I couldn't fathom ever voting for them at this point.

>>34315272
>I vote Republican because I work for a living

GOP are not the party of working people. They do everything to fuck you over HARD.

> and don't want my hardworking taxes going to NEETbux

Taxes are investments into society. How good your society is is proportional to taxes paid. Tax hysteria is propaganda by the rich to get THEIR taxes cut.

>>34315329
>supports military and police
>doesn't want to to pay taxes to train, equip, feed, or house them

>>34315381
>"Want my taxes as low as possible" means 0 taxes
That's quite the stretch, my friend.

"people don't have healthcare so make a law to give free healthcare" makes sense only if you're a very shallow thinker but a lot of people fall for that kind of thing. I think the difference is fundamental (for those who believe strongly either way) so it's hard for them to come to understanding and it goes into more than just politics

>>34315433
Wanting your taxes as low as possible while having a well funded military and police force means you are going to have high taxes, that F35 isnt going to pay for itself and that's just a single aircraft model, there's a wide range of land air and sea vehicles that the military needs and then we have the police force which is already underfunded and under trained so if you truly support them that's a tax increase, then we also have roads to maintain, schools to fund, fyi those also need a major overhaul so there's an increase, and various other infrastructure that needs funding
Taxes in and if themselves aren't a problem and dont just instantly go to welfare programs, the misuse of those funds is the problem and you're a fucking retard if you think either major party isn't misusing that money

>>34315230
its just common sense bro

>>34315329
over 30% of federal tax goes to armed forces that's pretty nuts imo

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>>34315605
Calm down, you're acting like a high schooler who thinks that he has all of the answers.

I agree with you that misuse of the money is a massive problem, as is waste. That's true of both parties. Having said that, welfare programs, in conjunction with other things that tax dollars go to, combine to require higher taxes and federal funding as a result.

If you want to be precise, however, such social programs are approximately 67% of the current expenditures, much less than defense, or in fact all other expenditures combined and then doubled.

It's bloated and wasteful, and puts us in extreme debt beyond what is necessitated. I'd like to significantly cut government waste and expenses, which as a result necessitates less taxes.

Only one party ever talks about the debt or cutting government spending, and only one party ever wants to give out tax breaks. There are lots of bad eggs, sure, but my vision of America is embodied by fiscal responsiblity, low taxes, keeping welfare programs as minimized as possible (though they are necessary to a certain extent), and keeping our military strong.

As I said, "taxes as low as possible" doesn't mean "no taxes." Please stop acting like the ultimate authority on everything, you don't have all of the answers to everything in life. It's not an endearing trait.

>>34315706
See >>34315846, it's actually 16%.

>>34315350
>if people didn't pay taxes, nothing would get done
>if people gave all their money to taxes, there would be no problems
You are saying one or both of these and they're equally retarded

>>34315045
Because they aren't Democrats.

>>34315895
that's on the low end of figures that I saw, plus benefits. why not privatize the military since giving people free money is inherently wasteful and inefficient?

>>34315915
>acting like it's some kind of sports team
You can't be this much of a dummy anon.

>>34316086
>why not privatize the military
Is one of the most disingenuous, or one of the most stupid questions that I've ever seen asked. I honestly hope you weren't being serious, and could foresee the issues present with such an idea.

>giving people free money is inherently wasteful and inefficient?
It's not "free money," they're providing the necessary service (as evidenced by the existence of every country in the history of the world) of keeping us safe from those who would do us harm. They're doing their duty, as called for in the Constitution.

There is plenty of waste, sure, and that should be minimized, but necessary expenses, as deemed by those who know a Hell of a lot more than you or me, are necessary expenses.

I'm not sure if you're just being obtuse, or if you're conflating Republican ideals with radical libertarian or even anarchist ideals.

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>>34316086
>why not privatize the military
>liberal loses debate
>goes full retard in attempt to make a "point"

>>34316229
who is in charge of the military and police and who are they accountable to? who would a private force be accountable to?

you're just arguing for welfare. welfare is not "free money" it keeps people from dying (same as the stated purpose of military).
>There is plenty of waste, sure, and that should be minimized, but necessary expenses, as deemed by those who know a Hell of a lot more than you or me, are necessary expenses.
good argument for socialism, however as a potato farmer I don't think the most efficient thing is for the government to decide for me how many potatoes to grow.

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>>34316270
you think you know me but you don't

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>>34315045
unhealthy confusion between ideals, evidence, and practice

0 understanding of progressivism

>>34316366
Shut up you fucking annoying tard

>>34315045
because amerikeks are retarded if you don't vote for them you're effectively voting for the Democrat party which is really bad in burgerland.

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>>34315329
you vote for this

and yet you get one tenth of that, hmmm

really makes you think

>>34316399
my IQ is higher than yours, undoubtedly. also I am more informed, more objective, with greater perspective.

>>34315115
you probably don't even think the government's job should be to make porky richer and send the poors to die for his oil! lolololol buttblasted libturd! XD people who fight for their class interests are such KEKS amirite!

>>34316453
Na man, based on your arguments and debating skill, you are clearly brain dead. Hope you can get a job in manual labor.

>>34316490
loI im so ironic XDDDDD

>>34316346
>who is in charge of the military and police and who are they accountable to?
The commander-in-chief, naturally. They exist as an entity of the executive branch, as called for by the US Constitution.

A "privatized military" is beholden to whoever the Hell pays their paychecks. They could easily overthrow the US Government if they were privatized. The military exists as a necessary entity to prevent our country from being overrun and invaded from those who would do us harm.

>you're just arguing for welfare. welfare is not "free money" it keeps people from dying (same as the stated purpose of military).

Welfare, as I stated before, is in fact necessary, but should be kept at the absolute minimum levels required, getting rid of all waste, fraud, and abuse of the systems.

I'm not advocating for the elimination of welfare, my friend, just keeping it as minimized as possible to prevent people from becoming reliant or comfortable with it.

Theoretically, we could eliminate all welfare and continue to exist as a country, whereas we couldn't eliminate the military and continue to exist. It's why we, or even socialist countries with public healthcare, don't pay for the most expensive and expedited treatment as a default.

>however as a potato farmer I don't think the most efficient thing is for the government to decide for me how many potatoes to grow.

I completely agree with you, and that's why I have stated numerous times to keep government as minimized as possible, and also why I don't vote Democrat.

You're arguing points that I'm not even making. I don't know if you're the OP or what, but if you are, you might secretly be a Republican with that train of thought.

In any event, I'm going to cut some wasteful time spending from my life, and move on because I don't think we're getting anywhere, and are just spinning the wheels at this point.

>>34315194
sounds awfully familiar to the ACA

>>34316570
Well, yes however the government is meant to be elected by it's public, making their forces accountable to the public (the ones who pay their checks), in theory at least. However there is a monopoly in this area which takes accountability out of the equation.


>Welfare, as I stated before, is in fact necessary
>I completely agree with you (on the inherent self-organizational quality of the free market)

That's a contradiction, what exempts welfare recipients from the free market?