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The world is changing. The 89/20 Hypergamy is becoming more and

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The world is changing. The 89/20 Hypergamy is becoming more and more normalized. Like if we where animals.
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>>34293174
I've already faced the facts, there's never going to be a beta uprising or anything. We are just going to languish in obscurity with the other bottom 90% of males.
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We are animals, any animals subjected to what we have been would do the same thing.

This is common knowledge on this board but posting anyway

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Calhoun#Mouse_experiments
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>>34293214

We are just going back to our roots.
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>>34293174
Joke's on them, we'll just become each others gfs (male).
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>>34293214
>we

not everyone is as beta and inactive as you
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>>34293174
>>34293214
>>34293248
But /pol9k/ said that Donald Trump getting inaugurated will make it all better
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>>34293250
Totally jealous of all the fatvirgins and lukewarm IQ runoff autistically dry humping disabled people in kneesocks.
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>>34293266
You can't turn back the tide of degeneracy, only accelerate it until the system comes crashing down. Trump is the accelerationist Dionysian tyrant we need.
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>>34293266
Only Bernie could have saved us from sexual inequality.
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>>34293174
I was one of and possibly the only autistic kid in my school who listened to video game music instead of real music and ran with his arms behind his back like the sonic character

I have never really gotten laid but I've seen frozen and despite all the negative attention it gets I actually like it and think deep down everyone likes it to some extent
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>>34293275
You can always join us :^)
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>>34293214
>tfw no female betas
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>>34293300
Yeah but we all know that suffering on /r9k/ doesn't matter if you're nonwhite, and Trump getting in office means all the white """""robots""""" will get laid and get gfs easier than the effort breathing takes


>>34293304
not really, its only sexual inequality when people who aren't white are getting laid
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i dont know too many normies that are actually down with this though
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>>34293341
>implying the fat hambeast who wore cat ears in high school wasn't a beta

men only see Stacy, ugly women might as well not exist
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>>34293509
This, there's ugly and undesired people of both genders. The imbalance lies in the fact that attractive people are preferred by everyone, including ugly people. On the other hand, no one wants to be with an ugly person, even other uglies.
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>be bf of a girl who is best friends with another girl and they do everything together
>anytime we would go out her friend would tag along, and she obviously liked me and touched me even more than my gf did
>one time we go to an anime convention and her friend tags along of course
>sitting in the hotel room and the friend admits she wants to do me really bad and hasn't had a good dick in a long time and begs my gf to let me sleep with her
>gf gives in and sits on the bed watching me fuck her best friend, gets my gf horny so I have to switch between them to satisfy them both
>do this 2 more times during the convention, do it several times afterward and even got them to do some lesbian stuff, but then she finds a bf and doesn't need me anymore
Best times of my life desu, now I'm getting old and surely never going to experience such joys again.
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>>34293348
>Trump getting in office means all the white """""robots""""" will get laid and get gfs
Literally how?
>inb4 meme magic
Dumb kekposter.
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>>34293318

this is the most autistic post ive read on /r9k/
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>>34293762
Because being nonwhite and black will be legally/de-facto seen as unattractive and undesirable
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sexbots will make this all irrelevant and we won't need women anymore
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>>34293318
I knew a kid who ran with his arms behind his back but he was emulating Naruto, not Sonic.
He also called out ninjutsus and did that hand signs and everything.
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>>34293318
Weren't kids like that always negroes? I'm saying this because I've only seen black dudes emulating ninjutsu and other shit.
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>>34293318
HAHAHAHAHAAHAAHA
Holy Shit top kek
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>>34293174
has nothing to do with if people are "animals"

its a mass movement to deprogram those who have been brainwashed by religion and control.
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>>34293174
competition is increasing on all levels. You either make it or you're a fucking slave.
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>>34293174
that picture is so fucking hot. Purest form of cuck right there.
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>>34294479
so yeah, we're returning to being animals
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>>34294403
Black kids love Naruto and DBZ for some reason.
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>>34294560
religion does not define if we are animals or not. It was only a form of control.
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>tfw welfare is systematically breeding millions of neets out of the gene pool and they are powerless to stop it
have fun never reproducing neets
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>>34294586
has nothing to do with the gene pool. People will still one night stand and drunk women will always get knocked up from neets when chads are all taken up by stacys.

Grow the fuck up and go live in real life for a bit.
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>>34294621
ignoring how poor they are for a second, where do you think neets are meeting women? they dont even go outside. this is phase 1.
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>>34294487
Yep, due to dating apps especially. Women have all the purchasing power and can just scroll through a catalogue of men to choose from. Like shopping. She looks at your photo, reads your description, and then just swipes away all the unwanted men, leaving a small pool to choose from.

In the old days she would actually have to get to know you and court you and you'd have to explore each other's personalities. Not anymore.
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>>34294637
if you really think that most neets never leave the house, then you are the biggest normie this board has to offer.

What do you think people do all the time when they are board and broke. Jerking off only last so long, and hookers only go so far. Most will end up finding a girl and having kids to be raised off their neetbucks.
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>>34294584
I can tell you are an intelligent gentlesir like myself.
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>>34294403

Kisama, got a problem with Kuronekotekken desu ka?
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>>34294705
you think neets can afford hookers? they can barely afford to eat. they cant afford to go out anywhere or do anything fun.

welfare is cheaper than killing them. welfare will ensure only good, hard working wagecucks will pass on their slave genes while the neets all die off.
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young people are fucking significantly less these days than they did 20-30 years ago, you're just more aware of it because of the internet
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>>34294586

The majority of people reproducing are middle to lower class normies, the majority of people not reproducing are college educated youth (mostly Chads and Stacies) because they love hedonism and hate the responsibility that comes with raising children. NEETs and autists arent being bred out of the gene pool any faster than people in general who dont belong to the lower middleclass.
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>>34294774
yes. hookers. not high classed escorts.

once again. maybe you should get out a bit more then you are trying to preach.
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>>34293174
>>34293248
Maybe I'm thick but how is this mathematically possible?
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>>34294871
One man getting 17 women pregnant
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>>34293174
Then become the god damn 20%! Wreck the chads!
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>>34294894
But it would never be that extreme? Is some men had 2 or 3 wives and others had 0 to make it work, that would still only be twice as many women passing on their genes or similar, not 17 times.
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>>34294942
Getting them pregnant doesnt mean you raise the damn kid
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>>34293248
This was because of war though. Those men all died

Today its still the same, except those men are dead in a different way, they are beta slaves
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>>34294871

Look at HIV transmission rates.

Homosexual males, despite being a minority of the population, make up the majority of new infections because they're typically promiscuous and engage in risky forms of sex that are more likely to transit it.

White heterosexual males are the least likely group to get HIV, but heterosexual WOMEN are 4 times more likely to get HIV than heterosexual men. That's evidence of hypergamy. They're sleeping with a minority of women.
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>>34293319
I'm already dead inside but do your thing. Get infected, who cares
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>>34294942
you dont have to wife a woman to impregnate her. It was just a wealthy man going around fucking his slaves. Also marauders would rape any women they come across. I imagine if you would manage to say alive in this line of work for 20 years you would have quite a high rape score
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How can i convince my gf to let me fuck other girls, preferably in front of her?
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>>34293174
>Like if we where animals.
We are animals, dolt.
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>>34293214

What do you think makes you a beta?
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>>34295021
No they don't. This is a fucking lie spread by anti-lgbt and religious groups. The largest spreaders of HIV and STDS are straight people you fucking philistine.
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>>34293174
Is...is that Frozen?

Oh god did they use Olaf's nose to peg him??
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>>34295110

Sorry, you're right and I worded things wrong. I meant to say that as a "group", homosexual males have the highest rates of HIV transmission...and I'm talking about within the US, not worldwide.
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>>34295021
Being 4 times a promiscuious is believable, 17 times feels far fetched.

>>34295056
Slavery would explain it. But there would have to be a huge amount of female slaves for it to average out with the rest of the population as x17.
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>>34295137
But this isn't a condition of being homosexual. Its a lack of proper sex education. Still, the transmission between gay and straight is still marginal.
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>>34294621

>chads
>stacies
>grow the fuck up

kek
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>>34295141

>Being 4 times a promiscuious is believable, 17 times feels far fetched.

Heterosexual women have 4 times the HIV transmissions as heterosexual males, but HIV transmission is an incredibly rare thing - if you have HIV and you have sex with a woman, you'd have to have sex with her hundreds of times before you could be 98% sure she had it.

So they're having much more than 4 times the sex.
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>>34295141
>>34295179

and let me also point out, from my own experience, I know MANY guys who are basically relationshipless, I mean - I know about 20 guys who've had 1 or less relationships in their life, at about 30 years old. All the women I know have at least openly had about 2-3 relationships, and this is what is in the open. I regularly talk to girls online who'll admit to 6+ sexual partners.
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>>34295110
>No they don't. This is a fucking lie spread by anti-lgbt and religious groups. The largest spreaders of HIV and STDS are straight people you fucking philistine.

Sure, butt-blaster.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay-related_immune_deficiency

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugchasing

Fuck off and die you diseased rat.
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>"80 huh? Weird, Mac-er-Mary and I don't feel an urge to chase after this mythical 20%"
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>>34295141
>there would have to be a huge amount of female slaves for it to average out with the rest of the population as x17

No. It just means that the large majority of men did not reproduce. Practically all females have had AT LEAST one child but majority of males haven't conceived one. It isn't something that's debatable, it is a fact derived from genetic information.
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>>34295234
Again. not really a condition of being homosexual.

Its just that closeted people like you can only focus on "the gay" almost like you lust for it.

Straights take part of bug chasing just as much as gays do.

Thats the great thing about statistics. There are a lot more straight people than there are gay, and even when you take that in account, the numbers are marginal between each other.

Losing focus on the main issue. Sex education, or lack of, is the huge problem. Not just for STD's, but also unplanned children.
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>>34293214

im an atheist but i realize now that christianity/abrahamic religion was the beta uprising and we managed to destroy that as well.

The beta uprising will obviously not happen again as back in the day betas would lash out, today they just spend their time jacking off, watching anime and playing video games. This is our reality now.
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>>34295342

Christianity and Islam have been essentially gynocentric for the past 2000 years.

Under Christianity you're just a workhorse\bulletvest to your precious vagina. The Catholic Church literally believe that Joseph never had sex with his wife and that this is a good, honourable thing. They have official doctrines of male disposability.
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>>34295342
whats the difference between a beta doing all the stuff you listed, and a normie with a kid doing the exact same thing you listed.

Gets the ol' potato stewing.
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>>34295396
>Under Christianity you're just a workhorse\bulletvest to your precious vagina.

As long as I got one.
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>>34295342
the fuck do you even mean by a beta uprising?

by betas do you mean underprivileged people? if so, there kinda is with all the liberal academic shit, more change is happening politically than people rioting in the street. problem is that most of the imported shit is diminished because of crazy liberals. you could also say that the riots in england was an uprising.
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>>34295396

I dont know enough about the subject matter to prove you wrong on that claim, but i do know that both Christianity and Islam believed that women belonged to men and that every Christian/Muslim man deserves a wife. Yeah sure you had to work, but guess what, back then everyone had to work. At least religion gave you a wife in return. Today most betas are still wageslaves and expected to look after women, except they dont get to fuck them anymore.

>>34295397

the normie doesnt spend 90% of his time doing it
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>>34295447

You were very often married in a sexless marriage, and if she cheated on you, the Church would take her side and basically enforce your cuckoldry (there's a lot of literature that talks about this, and teachings like the Pericope Adulterae being a major source).

If you have this attitude that you'd do anything to take a warm wet hole, why not visit a prostitute? Sounds like what you want.
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>>34295487
>the normie doesnt spend 90% of his time doing it

normies spend tons of time doing pointless shit. normies play video games or watch netflix all day. the only difference is that they go out on the week end while you are stuck in with no friends.
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>>34295487
>the normie doesnt spend 90% of his time doing it
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>>34295487

>but i do know that both Christianity and Islam believed that women belonged to men and that every Christian/Muslim man deserves a wife

You're just uninformed and you've internalised various feminist lies about history. Christianity and Islam don't teach that you're entitled to a woman, in fact under Islam polygamy was often common - so you had a similar situation to today with hypergamy, except that they were married - one man having 2-7 wives... oh and if you tried to sleep with one of these married girls, execution for you.

Christianity didn't teach an entitlement to marriage, and much of the time you'd already be dead from overwork or warfare before you'd even have hat chance.

Christianity typically promoted all sorts of duties for men and little to no obligations for women (they would teach them, but don't enforce them - churches do the same thing today).
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>>34295483

i define beta as an undesirable male. Thats a wide spectrum, so betas can range from the overweight NEET who doesnt do shit to the wageslave who works his ass off yet is depressed, not really respected by anyone and not even recognized by women as a human being. Back in the day this type of person would usually join some kind of (violent) movement or become a bandit of some kind, today they retreat to the comfort of the digital world.

The beta uprising as we know it on 4chan is obviously a meme but the core concept of it can be found in many movements throughout history. Its basically a group of disgruntled men who are rejected by society finding something to take their anger out on.
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>>34293244
The paralles are terrifying.
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>>34295519
>>34295529

I never denied that normies spend a lot of time doing useless shit. They just dont do it as much as a beta would. A key difference also is that they dont do it to fill a void in their life like the usual beta does (some might, but i wouldnt classify that kind of person as a normie, maybe a failed normalfag).
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>>34295604
>this type of person would usually join some kind of (violent) movement or become a bandit of some kind
I think about this a lot too. Modern society has pacified the instincts we all have by keeping us distracted with video games, porn, anime, and junk food when even a few hundred years ago we would have been raping and pillaging. It's things like this that make me think we weren't even meant to be a part of this world. Our natural instincts are telling us to do one thing, but our surroundings and society force us to do another. Even 115 years ago I could have been a bandit in the Wild West, stealing from people and impregnating women before being hanged or executed at 25. My genes would still have lived on.
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>>34295604
Why would you equate that with taking out anger?
If anything it's simply a logical and intelligent thing to do, get rid of things which are attempting to oppress or destroy you. Saying it is anger implies it is an irrational act of passion rather than a necessity which shouldn't be ignored.
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>>34293174
There is no statistical basis for your 80/20 shit. It's a myth you cooked up to make yourselves feel better by pretending you're the majority. Look up any set of statistics about the frequency of sex, the percentage of people who've lost their virginity by X age, the number of people who successfully get married... literally anything you want really, nothing agrees with you.

What you are experiencing is a combination of your own unattractiveness and quite likely your age. Figures suggest that female attractiveness peaks at 20 and male at 26, so if you're a particularly young male your women aren't being stolen by chad, they're being stolen by your future self.
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>>34294403
I knew a half white half chinese kid who did this and we'd brutally attack him in any way shape or form verbally or socially. I feel bad about it but he was a dumb asshole.
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>>34295664
Don't be scared. It's only life. Imagine the cruelty that waits ahead.
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>>34295677

What's stopping you from raping someone today?
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>>34294403
I am female and a black kid who always teased me caught me doing it and he even let me go easy. He was just like "what are you doing with your life"

He is one of those people in your life you meet that, you would get along with if every single interaction you had with them didn't go completely wrong.
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>>34295677
>when even a few hundred years ago we would have been raping and pillaging.
No, you wouldn't. Yes those things were more common but that doesn't mean they were the norm in those times. The majority of people were still ordinary commoners and the most they saw of violence was being raped and pillaged (and even then not that often).
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>>34295717

I'm not someone who argues the 80/20 thing, but I think it's closer to the truth, especially than all these statistics coming from major institutions which rely on female 'honesty' and accuracy - many of these stats are simply based on verbal surveys, conducted primarily by female interviewers on college campuses - any woman the stats are skewed?

Just compare to my own experience in New Zealand. The highschool I went to, there was one guy in my grade who got the attention of practically every girl I know and even girls from other highschools. Beyond him there were maybe 1 or 2 guys who were hyper-successful like that with girls. Then there were a few normies who managed to scrape sex. This is hypergamy in action and it was highly visible and open - 1 guy, 100's of girls pursuing him. Some girls were sleeping with much older guys. I knew tonnes of guys who had no sex in highschool. That fits with the 80/20 rule, and it's my experience - and I've heard similar experiences from around the world!
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>>34293622
Post a pic of them because I bet they were ugly
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>>34295743
Honestly, only Chads and Stacies are going to suffer from it.
I started working out recently, so I'll join the "Beautiful Ones" from the mouse experiments.
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>>34293174

And this is why I voted for Trump. Maybe with him in office our women may be inspired to not be such fat, entitled sluts.

No really, this is one of my reasons for having voted for him. Even if our woman don't change for the better under his presidency, at least he would've been a better cultural figure for them than Hillary.
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>>34293174
Welcome to the brave new world, lads
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>>34295854
Working out won't fix your face.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qz9NZ4rzNQ
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I'm just passing here to say that you don't use the word hypergamy correctly.

Hint: it's meaning doesn't have anything to do about women being promiscuous.
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>>34295915
I have a bit of a polish potato face, but I can live with that. With a nice body I could be a 6 or 7/10 which would be good enough for me.
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>>34295760
He explained it; very seductive outlets such as porn (fulfills sexual desires pretty well) video games (fulfills adventure/conquering desires well) and tasty easy food. The cost to benefit of being an outlaw is low as fuck when you can just stay inside and live vicariously through the internet almost as good at no risk.
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>>34295962

Hypergamy has its own meaning in online culture, idiot. Just like misandry hasn't existed (and still doesn't in most cases) in dictionaries.
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>>34295669
>They just dont do it as much as a beta would. A key difference also is that they dont do it to fill a void in their life like the usual beta does

Stop. You're killing me
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>>34295604
>i define beta as an undesirable male

oh so you basically mean minority groups, the poor etc. yeah, there are movements as i have already mentioned. most movements that accomplished anything through out history where facilitated by the middle class.
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>>34295979

If you raped someone in 1850's America you were very likely risking being burnt to death or brutally killed in some other way. You could rape a woman today and you'll just get a long prison term. There's nothing stopping him. Men have always had diversions.

Rape is basically a myth, it doesn't happen.
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>>34295669
>A key difference also is that they dont do it to fill a void in their life like the usual beta does (some might, but i wouldnt classify that kind of person as a normie, maybe a failed normalfag).

they do though. normies suffer too. they drink all the type because they want to forget about all the problems in their life. why do you think taking anti depressants is such a norm now. escapism is literally a normie thing. normies are good at masking their problems.
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>>34295982
>Just like misandry hasn't existed (and still doesn't in most cases) in dictionaries.
That's just feminist bias though.
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>>34293174
lol bro, go out there and get the girl. It's not like girls will come to your house and demand sex
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>>34295839
Where did you get the idea I was proposing you look at figures for women? You can look at those too, but I was more talking about what you see if you ask young men how often they have sex and whether or not they're in a relationship. The results consistently do not support this idea even slightly.

>Just compare to my own experience in New Zealand.
And in my experience in Ireland this was not the case at all, there were guys like that sure, I'm not doubting attractive people exist, but I have never seen a ratio as fucked as you describe, never mind the 80/20 nonsense.

>Some girls were sleeping with much older guys. I knew tonnes of guys who had no sex in highschool.
So? Women dating upwards in age does not have any effect on the ratio between "Men who get some" and "Men who do not", it just changes the point at which they get some. Every one of those guys who manages to not die will become an older guy in time.

Attached is a picture of OkCupid's figures on age and attractiveness, which should help to explain why using high school as an example is a baaaaaad idea.

Note that these numbers aren't perfect, I suspect they're exaggerated because OkCupid is a platform where (as far as I know) people's ages are displayed in text before you ever speak to them. This means the number is likely to have a much larger effect that if say, you met someone at spoke to them for two hours and they then mention they're thirty. You can see this is in the very extreme drops at 30 and 40 where the incrementing digit loses people 5 - 10% of their attractiveness.
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>>34296043
After all that I forgot the picture...
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>>34295677

Tbh it reminds me of Genghis Khan. Even though he wasnt really a beta he started out with nothing. His father was killed by a rival tribe and his family abandoned by his own tribe. He eventually got imprisoned by another tribe but managed to escape and with a couple of friends he had made at the time (i think he was about 18 when he rose to power) managed to unite all the Mongol tribes and conquer half of the world. I would rather die being part of something like that then live in a digital fantasy world for the rest of my life until im 80.


>>34295684


This is true, but i ment it in a sense of being angry at things that attempt to oppress or destroy you like you said. In some cases however the anger was just directed at society in general, as seen in the case of bandits.
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>>34293266
But he has! For the upper class.
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>tfw offered a threesome by chad and his gf
>turned them down and sent them home
>still a virgin

im broken
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>>34296043
>>34296055

I agree with you on the age thing, but consider this - the guys back then who were having sex with 16-17 year olds were themselves promiscuous. As a specific example, at another school in another country I'd keylogged a bunch of girls in the school's computers - and one girl I liked lost her virginity to a guy who had hooked up with HUNDREDS of girls over MSN Messenger. What I mention about age is relevant for a number of reasons - but the main one is that most girls in highschool didn't see most males in highschool as potential mates, and that doesn't change.

To continue with anecdotal evidence, as I mentioned earlier in this thread - I know at least 20 guys my age (30yo) who are virgins or who at best have had 1 girlfriend, but literally every girl I know has many multiple. I don't know ANY virgin females at this age, or even at say 25.

It's just a fact of life - women are the ones who're sexually desired, and they have all the choice and cards in their favour - they also tend to rely on the judgement of other women when it comes to who is desirable... hence 80/20.

Also, even most guys who have had sex once or a relationship once... this doesn't compare to the average woman who's had far more relationships.
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>>34295997

No thats not what i ment, i clearly stated it in my post. Sure, the poor were undesirable too, but its because back then wealth was really the only thing that mattered. Today even though wealth will still get you everything you want, the balance has shifted to favor people with a genetic advantage (good looks, outgoing personality). Of course these things have always matter and will always matter, the difference is the balance, how much importance is placed on each requirement.
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>>34296020
In 1850s America a lot more women were religious and wouldn't abort their rape baby even if they had a reliable way to. Now even if that did happen the girl would just abort it like the other 5+ times she got pregnant before age 30.
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>>34296144
Why the fuck would you turn that down? Didn't want to feel gay?
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It is what normalfags drift to. There is no stopping it.

Why care for a society and a peoples who hurry to their deaths? Let the world burn, I say
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>>34296233
>losing your virginity when there are more men than women present
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>Nobody has posted a non-shitty version of OP's picture yet
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>>34296233
i dont know man, it didnt feel right to do that with someones gf, even though he was there
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The fact of the matter is that Chad wins when women are promiscuous. If women don't care about being sluts and don't care about whether a guy cheats, then they will accept being in a harem for one guy for 2 years and then untouchable for the rest of their lives than being in a lifelong and stable relationship with one guy.

It's just a fact. And it happens especially with young women. Women in high school and college all chase Chad and live the party girl slut life. It's why you see that even the "loser" fembots here all have had one night stands and have been fucked by Chad or his friends.

If you aren't Chad, you just have to accept that if you are lucky enough to convince a woman to date you, she's been passed around by Chad dozens of times before you.

And to the women out there, why would a guy want to be with a woman that's been passed around by Chad? Imagine of a guy you were with had been with hundreds of girls and told them all he loved them deeply. Would you really want to be with him? Of course you would, because he's Chad and you'll do anything for him. Leave this board roastie.
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>>34295488
>If you have this attitude that you'd do anything to take a warm wet hole, why not visit a prostitute? Sounds like what you want.

Prostitutes will not give birth to m children.
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>>34296172
>To continue with anecdotal evidence, as I mentioned earlier in this thread - I know at least 20 guys my age (30yo) who are virgins or who at best have had 1 girlfriend, but literally every girl I know has many multiple. I don't know ANY virgin females at this age, or even at say 25.
And I don't know any despite being a massive nerd who programs and plays video games as their main sources of entertainment. 20 people who you personally have encountered is not a good sample and I suspect means one of two things:
1. If these are your friends, you select for the kind of person unlikely to have sex.
2. If these are acquaintances, you hang out in particular environments (computer labs in the physics building of a university after dark?) or you've just met a shitload of people.

>It's just a fact of life - women are the ones who're sexually desired, and they have all the choice and cards in their favour - they also tend to rely on the judgement of other women when it comes to who is desirable...
Yes.
>hence 80/20.
No. If you refer back to the earlier chart you will see that the (probably exaggerated) difference in average peak attractiveness is 10%. Not 60%. I am not arguing women don't have the high ground, they do, it's just not the comically large high ground people on here claim.

>even most guys who have had sex once or a relationship once... this doesn't compare to the average woman who's had far more relationships.
Unless women are all turning gay this is statistically impossible. Consider the hypothetical 80/20 implemented with just 10 women and 10 men.

The ten men have had this many relationships each: 10, 10, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1 The ten women have had this many relationships each: 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3

Despite the obviously skewed distribution the average number of relationships for both groups is the same, 28 / 10. As long as the population sizes are the same, any relationship between genders will add one to the totals of both groups.
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>>34293214
If any of you guys on here seriously believe that this beta uprising could have ever happened and you aren't memeing you people are extremely retarded and are seriously denying the reality you see in front of yourselves everyday.
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>>34296266
>have chance for great friend and getting laid
>with possibility of it happening again

>>34296335
You cucked yourself. You should have treated him like the great friend he was.

A guy open to threesomes and a girl getting to sleep around without going behind her man's back is basically the perfect relationship setup.
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>>34296423

The skinniest beta virgin manlet and the most obese neckbeard basement dwelling friendless wizard can both fire a gun the same as Chad.

In fact, they could just take what they want like this. Find a cute girl and kidnap her. But the sad truth is that nobody here has the balls to do that because they for even have the balls to make themselves attractive or approach women.
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>>34296423

t. increasingly nervous normie
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>>34296463
>can both fire a gun the same as Chad.
How would this even work? Are you proposing a civil war based around attractiveness? A bunch of guerrilla assassinations of attractive men? Just a simultaneous shooting up of every school in the country? This is just nonsense.
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>>34296423
>tfw you started working out for the beta uprising
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>>34296410

>1. If these are your friends, you select...

I have a wide variety of friends, but even if I was specifically going out in search of only "loser" or virgin males, literally no female I know is a virgin, and the vast majority have had MULTIPLE relationships.

>The ten men have had this many relationships each: 10, 10, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1 The ten women have had this many relationships each: 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3

In this example, 8 of the guys have had fewer relationships than the women, and seriously... haven't you met guys who'd slept with lots of women? I know SOME guys who've slept with HUNDREDS, but the vast majority of guys I know are basically sexless.
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>>34296492

No, I'm saying once an individual reaches Elliot's level, they will pull an Elliot.

But a smart Elliot would do smart things to cause the most harm, like poison. Imagine if he poisoned the water at the sorority instead of going on a shooting rampage?
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>>34296458
its not the first time ive turned down sex

i should probably talk to a therapist or something
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>>34294560
>>34294479
>>34294584

Religion is never going away. It's in our dna, it's part of our humanity. It's what allows us to have social cohesion.

All that's different is that we are replacing spiritual religions with secular ones such as "progressivism", "liberalism", "conservatism", "patriotism" etc. And ss traditional religions get weaker and weaker, secular religions become stronger and more all encompassing in our daily lives.
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>>34293174
>tfw fucked my girlfriend's best friend once while they were kissing
>no condom
>she was better looking
>ended jizzing on their tits
>they ate it all
>we laid back in bed, talked about books and life
Seriously man. This was the best experience in my whole life. Never felt so beautiful.
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>>34295000
What were they dying at 10 years old? No. Lots of men die but they have children. That is simply because all the women were going for the rich farmers.
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>>34296586
Fuck off normalfuck
orig
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>>34296624
>normalfag
I'm a 5-9, 6.5/10 fatty with social anxiety who was NEET for 5 years because I was afraid to go outside. Sex is easy to get, you fucking autist.
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>>34296586
How do girls put up with that? No jealousy? And then just chatting together afterwards?
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>>34293244
Subjected by whom? You stupid retarded fuck. By another animal, you mean? Now how would he do such a thing?
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>>34293174
We are animals we are just fooling ourselves by trying to set all these rules about sex and relationship that always end badly.
Much like our chimp relatives, only the 10% of males get 80% of the females MN
>>34294345
you'll be like 80 by the time that happens
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>>34296410

Your example is already wrong because the bottom 40% of men get nothing in the 80/20 scenario.

And the numbers are way skewed in real life. In real life, the top men have sex with hundreds of women while the top women only have sex with dozens of men. Women have sex a lot but they are conservative with their partners. The top men can get anyone and they don't give a shit if their partner is 7/10 or 10/10. Most men, aka the middle 40%, have less than 5 women in their whole lives.

So the average is skewed because the top men fuck a hugely disproportionate amount of women. Just take basketball players and actors as an example. Different women every night, usually groups of 3 or more at a time. They have more sex in one week than most men get in a lifetime.
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>>34296696
Bisexuality. They wanted to fuck each other. I didn't want to get cucked so I told them I'd let them do it if I could fuck both. We're still friends. We only fucked once though.
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ELSA AND ANNA ARE PURE

PURE

I WILL PURGE THE FILTH WHO USE THEM TO PUSH DEGENERACY
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>>34296660
>sex is easy to get
>6.5/10

Lol. You claim to be in the top 30% of men. Of course sex is easy to get for you. A true robot is 4/10 or below.
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>>34296043
>>34294942
How slow are you?
Most men die cold and alone. They would be grunts for labor, you only grew up around other couples because your parents, married people and people with children, only associate with other married people and people they find hyper safe. You don't see all the cousins living alone being forklift drivers till they are 40, your parents made them invisible to you. You didn't see the 100 paco males that wash your lettuce and pack and ship it to you.
Your parents said everything would work out because it worked out for them, but the truth is it doesn't work out for most men. Most Women can always find a place
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>>34296794
I have high confidence even though I'm forgivably ugly and bitches dig that. Also my beard hides half of my face.
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>>34296715
>Women have sex a lot but they are conservative with their partners.
>Women are conservative with their partners.
You sweet summer child.
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>>34296553
Sorry. No. Its going away.

It was a way of rationalizing the world around us which was then turned into a form of control. With the spread of scientific thought, religion has declined and will continue to. The idea of religion may survive, but not the actual practice of it outside of smaller cults. Its not a requirement for society to survive as a whole.
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>>34296895

Women are whores of course, but they have high standards which leads to smaller numbers of total men they've fucked compared to Chad.
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>>34296858
>religion is going away
>college educated atheistic feminists in Europe are converting to Islam en masse

Kek, no religion isn't going away, especially the rest of the world. Only the West became atheistic because whites are degnerate and they are getting punished for it by being conquered by religious people aka non-whites.
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>>34296808
>high confidence

Kek, it's because you're 6.5/10 bud. If I had your exact personality id still be a virgin. That's how this thing works.
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>>34296806

This.

I'm a NEET and last year got assigned to 'work for the dole', doing factory work for a charity. 90% of the unemployed people doing the work were male, the rest were roasties who had boyfriends who were providing for them in some way anyway and got assigned easy work. Really hit me when I see that the charity building itself had signs up everywhere "Work for the dole people do not enter here!!! Go around back to warehouse!", I watch as female after female enters the plush officebuilding, then in the back there are two females in the warehouse office administering the males who are there to work as slaves, while women get easy jobs because of their vaginas AND get "wage gap" activism on their behalf to take jobs from men to give to women. Huge numbers of men are pushed to the bottom of society and ignored.

It reminded me of something Elliot Rodgers had said, that he felt like he'd been buried alive when he started to experience the isolation of an unwanted adult male.
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>>34296720
So your gf's friend was literally so attracted to her friend that she'd let you fuck her in exchange for getting to make with your gf?
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>>34293244
Describes the state of the western world with disturbing accuracy.
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>>34293248
Look on the bright side, this means all of us are the descendents of ancient Chads, right?
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>>34297115
What the fuck? How did the women get the easy jobs? Can't you apply for them as part of your get off the dole job center shit?
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>>34297301
hardly. eventually in early humans intelligence would trump chadism
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>being this booty blasted about sex when life has so many different things to offer
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>>34294942
>>34295179
>>34295274
>>34296806
But the math doesn't add up, like >>34296410 said.

>>34296522
>>34296715
But even adjusting the numbers so some of the men get 0 (which was never more than 50% anyway, let alone the numbers it would need to be to equal 17x like >>34293248 claims), that would mean more than 20% of the men in the >>34296410 example would reproduce with more of the women, to keep the women's numbers of partners up while placing some men on 0.
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>>34297342

When I said "while women get easy jobs because of their vaginas", I'm talking about the vast number of jobs in society that don't require huge amount of skill or investment in training or time in general. In any country you'll have millions of women working in customer service jobs, secretarial work, doing babysitting jobs, tutoring, teachers, human resource officers, child warfare or human services workers, etc. Basically women even without any extra privilege have access to all sorts of jobs that pay enough but more importantly involve decent working conditions and a degree of stability, but ontop of this they benefit from the "wage gap" lie which ensures women are elevated at every level into jobs that would otherwise be held by males.

In the actual work for the dole thing, though - the manager of the warehouse simply said assigned the girls to the easiest work and selected only males to do the hardest and harder work. You can't complain as a male about sexism like this.
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>>34296720
>>34297266
This would never happen the other way around. No women would accept a bi boyfriend who fucks his male friend as long as they both fuck her too. In fact, involving her would make it worse from her perspective, not better.
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>>34297490
But can't you as a NEET male do the same? You don't have to do high paying male jobs. Of course some like teachers have a stigma against men, but others like customer service or service workers you could apply for if they're better than dole charity work, just like women do.

>In the actual work for the dole thing, though - the manager of the warehouse simply said assigned the girls to the easiest work and selected only males to do the hardest and harder work. You can't complain as a male about sexism like this.
If the women are actually given easier jobs and it's not just them slacking off more or choosing the easy things, then you could prove the discrimination by pointing out the manager's bias. You could even do it anonymously if you were worried about being shamed for objecting to anti-male discrimination.
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>>34297410
>life has so many different things to offer

It really doesn't.
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>>34297693

>But can't you as a NEET male do the same? You don't have to do high paying male jobs. Of course some like teachers have a stigma against men, but others like customer service or service workers you could apply for if they're better than dole charity work, just like women do.

Technically I could 'apply', even though many of these positions are advertised as 'female only', and individually I could get a job. My point is about collective injustice, and how men basically have to fight for anything and get pushed to the 'back of house' and ignored, not about my own job prospects.

>If the women are actually given easier jobs and it's not just them slacking off more or choosing the easy things, then you could prove the discrimination by pointing out the manager's bias

Literally nobody cares, it happens in every single workplace across the country and we have a constant focus on giving women free shit. I know people who work at both Commonwealth Bank and ANZ bank, in both cases women are routinely let off work earlier and get preference in various things, they now have official policies of paying these women more superannuation - nobody cares, because males cannot complain.
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Everyone is having sex with everybody, only reason you aren't is because you won't leave your basement.
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>>34297375
>robots
>intelligent
robots by definition are brainlettes.
>but muh 'tism mak meh smurt!!11
no.
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>>34297838

Me? Yeah, I never got outside and I've never tried to even get a gf anyway. But a growing number of guys are virgins as well, no way they are all like me. Explain that.
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>>34297838

>basement dwellers

Yes, none of us have ever been outside.
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>>34295396
>Under Christianity you're just a workhorse\bulletvest to your precious vagina.
This is already true though. at least Christianity offered us cute monogamous waifus
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You virgins know nothing about sex, Fuck up and go to church.
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>>34293174
Most guys get laid, dude. I had sex less than 6 hours ago. Don't fall for memes.
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>>34298001

That's not true, and it's the major positive thing about modern secular culture. Nobody has ever really tried to get me to "man up" and fight in a war that was against my interests or even slave away for a roastie. In Christian communities today it's still very common for men to be regularly attacked and told to "man up" and marry roasties after they've had their fun on the carousel, and the same Churches also openly say things like men should die for women (even women who aren't even their wives). Go watch some of the mainstream protestant pastors talking about these issues. Some of them give minor lipservice to women having 'obligations' but their focus is always on attacking males for not being drones on behalf of materialistic whores.

The modern culture has left this huge gap for males like us to become redpilled and awake to our own interests, because it saw us as totally irrelevant.
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>>34298109
>>34298111

Oh good, the guys that aren't ugly bots come on here to act like ugly guys get gfs. Cool.

Still haven't addressed how the bottom 50% of guys are lucky to get 1 gf in their lives while the upper 50% of men can get hundreds of girls in their lives.
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>>34298193
Yes, because if you go out to buy groceries, you won't meet dozens of ugly couples. Ugly people date, ugly people have sex and ugly people marry.
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>>34293174
Anyone else find this hot af omg my diiiiiick!
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>>34298253

Most ugly guys I know are virgins. The only ugly couples I see are older.
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>>34297836
>even though many of these positions are advertised as 'female only'
That's fucked up. How is it even legal? The reverse wouldn't be.

Would claiming to be trans be a good way for men to get around discrimination like this?

>and individually I could get a job. My point is about collective injustice
I get that. But you're the one guy whose life you control. There isn't much you can do to get the others to change their minds or act differently, but you can try for a similar easy life women get individually, and so can any other man who chooses. Minus the female only jobs and so on of course.

>Literally nobody cares
>and we have a constant focus on giving women free shit.
>in both cases women are routinely let off work earlier and get preference in various things
>official policies of paying these women more superannuation - nobody cares, because males cannot complain.
This makes me so angry. It's sickening the discrimination half the population faces just because of being born the wrong sex. Seriously, more than any other thing I can read on 4chan, this is the most maddening.
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>>34297948
I'm a fat ugly manlet ginger and I'm not a virgin.
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>>34298361
>Ginger

Well there you go. You're a special snowflake white boy.
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>>34295110
>The largest spreaders of HIV are straight people


You're in denial son
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>>34297591

I've literally seen amateur webcam porn where this happens.
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>>34297342
How young are you? Even in wage cuck jobs, like when I worked at a movie theater years ago, the women would get the easy shifts, the men would get putting the stock away, sweeping theaters (stair climbing). women were allowed to take more time off too.
Besides that, wake up, what are secretary jobs? What are Hr managers? Etc. Women always get the easier jobs if they want them, always get offered them first.
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>>34297693
>then you could prove the discrimination by pointing out the manager's bias.
He thinks the courts or government or cops or DA cares. Point at him, point at him and laugh. Sexism laws in the workplace are only enforced on males mate. Get fucking real. You sound like you are in high school so
lets start at the beginning, cops are not there to protect you, they are there to protect business and the state. The world isn't some equity paradise.
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>>34299049
I'm a NEET from a country without "work for dole" like the anon, so I haven't experienced any of that.

>the women would get the easy shifts, the men would get putting the stock away, sweeping theaters (stair climbing). women were allowed to take more time off too.
>Women always get the easier jobs if they want them, always get offered them first.
I've been reading this sort of thing a lot and I believe it. It's sickening. But please share examples. I'm always discovering that I didn't know quite how bad it was, like the other NEET's example of how few roasties were on the dole.

>>34299139
>He thinks the courts or government or cops or DA cares.
Some individuals among the public care or would care if they knew. Like people who didn't know until they read about it online. That's why sharing this stuff is important.

>Sexism laws in the workplace are only enforced on males mate.
I know some sexist laws and that women get lower sentences. But examples of anti-discrimination laws being ignored when it benefits women should be collected as proof of how misandrist society is.
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>>34299390

>I've been reading this sort of thing a lot and I believe it. It's sickening. But please share examples. I'm always discovering that I didn't know quite how bad it was, like the other NEET's example of how few roasties were on the dole.

I'm not the guy you're responding to, I'm the guy who posted about the 'work for dole'. Earlier in my career I applied for a government job where 80% of the applicants (at least in the groups I was present with) were male. Yet 85%+ of those who were finally selected were female, I was one of the few males. It was overwhelmingly female, I didn't make much of this at the time until one day I overhear a conversation where the hiring guys are openly talking about how they have a policy of hiring more women "to overcome an entrenched male culture", this in a government field where the majority were ALREADY female for years. Nobody cares because it's somewhat unofficial in how it gets implemented - males higher up are happy to employ women, and males already in the organisation like working WITH women, and women like to be privileged and given jobs. The whole "wage gap" and "not enough women" thing saturates government and corporate culture here - it originates with women in general and it's all about nagging for free shit. 65%+ of government employees across the board are female, that's now standard in all western countries.

>But examples of anti-discrimination laws being ignored when it benefits women should be collected as proof of how misandrist society is.

They don't care. The very people administering this 'anti-discrimination' culture enforce an "exemption" for women. In most cases women being hired men is considered exempt from the classification of 'discrimination' because "women are a historically disadvantaged group", even though common sense says that women as a collective are always on about the same level as the men in their lives - while groups like abos or immigrants are far more disadvantaged.
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>>34293174

Never settle for used goods. If she's over 25 and trying to sucker your beta ass into paying for her stupid hobbies for a few decades, just remember to never commit and always use your own condoms.
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>>34299779
I replied to you up here! >>34298354

>The whole "wage gap" and "not enough women" thing saturates government and corporate culture here - it originates with women in general and it's all about nagging for free shit.
That unofficial discrimination is really sickening, and everybody collaborating because they all have vested interests in keeping it that way makes it even worse, and then the fact it rewards nagging and entitlement is the icing on the cake.

Government employees mostly being like this in western countries is all the more reason it should be defunded.

>>should be collected as proof of how misandrist society is.
>They don't care.
They don't, but some people do. Like us. Posters on 4chan is a start. It's better than nothing. Pepe got into normie news. Next time it should be societal misandry and /r9k/ can help make that happen. It's about raising awareness of the injustice even if most people ignore it. The ones who don't are the ones that will make change happen.
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>>34300116
but market forces are good!
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>>34300189
>this was original
fuck off
fucking commies
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>>34298128
>it's the major positive thing about modern secular culture. Nobody has ever really tried to get me to "man up" and fight in a war that was against my interests or even slave away for a roastie.
Feminism is secular. At least under Christian Chivalry men get rights in reward for their responsibilities. Under secular feminist rules, women get all the rights and none of the responsibilities.
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>>34294586
>tfw neetdom is as much the result of nurture as it is nature, and no reduction in allele frequency will get rid of it
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>>34300275

>Feminism is secular. At least under Christian Chivalry men get rights in reward for their responsibilities. Under secular feminist rules, women get all the rights and none of the responsibilities.

Modern feminism is, but early feminism which was probably worse than modern feminism was highly Christian. The most effective and widest, international feminist movement was the WCTU.

>At least under Christian Chivalry men get rights in reward for their responsibilities. Under secular feminist rules, women get all the rights and none of the responsibilities.

Cucked. Men got practically no rights, only responsibilites. Modern feminism allows bad women to fail, but more importantly - the modern secular culture allows men to avoid being dragged down and totally destroyed by these roasties so long as they exercise some discretion.
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>>34295141

>Being 4 times a promiscuious is believable, 17 times feels far fetched.

It doesn't matter if your fee fees don't believe. Its a genetic fact.
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>>34300499
>early feminism which was probably worse than modern feminism
How exactly was early feminism worse? Feminism has gone down hill from the start.

>Modern feminism allows bad women to fail
keknope

>the modern secular culture allows men to avoid being dragged down and totally destroyed by these roasties so long as they exercise some discretion.
By which you mean what, never being in the same room as one for a second lest you get a false rape accusation? Nope, that's worse than anything men faced from women before.
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>>34293174
I remember reading an article about this sort of thing and it basically said "BAWWW COLLEGE GIRLS HAVE IT SO HARD"
But what was interesting was that one of the girls said, "We would only consider dating maybe half of the guys at our school"
All of the girls will only date the top half of the gene pool. If you are on this board, you are pretty much fucked.
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>>34300670

That opinion is that of the person who said it/wrote it. They don't speak for all women.

But the sad truth is that they are right, except it's not the bottom half, it's the bottom 70%.
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>>34300609

>How exactly was early feminism worse? Feminism has gone down hill from the start.

Proto\Firstwave\Suffragette-Feminism was the absolute worst because they were demanding equality in a situation where men had so much more to lose. There have been several wars and drafts implemented in various western countries since they got the female vote, as a simple example. I'd much prefer to avoid clicking on Laci Green youtube videos than be forced to kill and possibly die on behalf of roasties. All of feminism has its ground in the lies propagated by this "first" wave anyway.

>keknope

Roasties steal men's jobs and get all sorts of government spending, but overall I'm paying less for roasties now than I would be as a wagecuck provider for one who lives with me.

>By which you mean what, never being in the same room as one for a second lest you get a false rape accusation? Nope, that's worse than anything men faced from women before.

Rape accusations are less frequent today, in large part because DNA testing made it significantly harder for women. Standadisation of police procedures also ends with more roasties getting arrested. Carrie Nation in the US used to go from bar to bar smashing people's private property and got away practically every single time. Today she'd be in prison. She'd be sentenced less than a male and she'd be put in a female prison (something the FIRST wavers established, gender segregation in prisons), but she'd still be dealt with more than in the past - thanks to secular modernism.
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>>34293244
>mfw we are the beautiful ones ;_;
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>>34300756
>I'd much prefer to avoid clicking on Laci Green youtube videos than be forced to kill and possibly die on behalf of roasties.
Feminism kills more people now than ever before. By rigging the game against men, it ruins lives. The most obvious casualties are male suicide victims, but affirmative action means men are less able to earn money and have good careers, leading to deaths. And affirmative action in hospitals means healthcare is worse than it should be.

>Roasties steal men's jobs and get all sorts of government spending, but overall I'm paying less for roasties now than I would be as a wagecuck provider for one who lives with me.
How exactly do you calculate the costs of women through jobs and govt theft? Cost which all men pay. That's even ignoring the fact that you wouldn't have to be a beta provider.

>Rape accusations are less frequent today, in large part because DNA testing made it significantly harder for women.
Source? Rape hysteria in college culture is huge, and through social and institutional stigma doesn't even need to go to court to ruin lives.

Defending what feminism is doing to men today is cucked as fuck.
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>>34300580
No, the genetics don't prove that.
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>>34300908
This is unsustainable. There are still all kinds of cultures out there and eventually we will revert to a monogamous society unless we literally change human genetics.

It's just that it won't happen in our lifetimes. Or maybe when we're too old to enjoy it.
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>>34302718
beta males don't just walk off and die. They just enter a state in which they invest minimal energy in maintaining themselves.

Western cultures reigned supreme partly because monogamy forces a majority of males to participate/ invest a lot into society by rewarding them for it.
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>tfw only Chads will reproduce, leading to less genetic diversity which will lead to disease and lower intelligence and the flooding of the West with shitskin barbarians while we are raped in the ass and enslaved by Jews and Asians
Truly the worst way to die
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>>34293341
All females are beta by definition, retard
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>>34296715
>hurr I'm an r9k autist but I know how people work
>citation needed
>citation fucking needed
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>>34300908
>referred to as beautiful ones
>actually we're pretty ugly
Hmmmm
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>>34296895
stop saying that reddit shit
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>>34303029
Not that anon

But I used 2010 census data and average fertility statistics to calculate that the average female has casual sex on average of once per week.

And this was assuming that condoms had a 20% fail rate. And birth control pills a 10% failure rate. Making contraceptives more effective just increases the rate of casual sex.


To elaborate: the average female has sex once a week from the day she turns 15 to the day she turns 29.

And that assumes that more than 50% of reportedly virgin girls are lying. Otherwise the sexually active 15-17 age bracket has sex 2-3 times a week on top of schooling.
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>>34293214
Just go to Ukraine. Who said you have to stick to women in your country.
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>>34303184
You're in for a big surprise if you think women there are any different.
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>>34293318
>I have never really gotten laid but I've seen frozen and despite all the negative attention it gets I actually like it and think deep down everyone likes it to some extent
You're alright. Frozen was alright.
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>>34293509
>>34293543
This is true but women basically get a plus two for existing and having a proper vagina. So even the ugliest women are 2s
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>>34300275
>feminism is secular
See the beautiful thing about secularism is that it promotes sects. I can be secualr without giving a flying fuck about the sect of feminism.
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>>34293174
I've seen cumdumpsters on this board confess they don't have boyfriends but just fuck their friends' boyfriends when they need dick, and the friend encourages it.
Chad ALWAYS WINS
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>>34303236
They're not, yet young 8/10 girls will like you there for your money while in your country you'll have to settle for women who hit the wall or fatties.
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>>34303105
The irony only adds to the cruelty of our existence
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>>34295997
No mong he explained exactly what it meant. Poor niggers often have several children by several women, which is hardly a beta male.
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>tfw dragged into existence
>born with shit genes
>ugly
>poor family
>poor medical care and nutrition
>constantly beaten by abusive parents
>play the game for a couple of years and want out
>they lock you up with schizos eating feces to """""help"""" you
>bro life is what you make it :4)))))
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>>34303105
Speak for yourself. I'm beautiful.

I just choose to be single.

I have yet to find a woman as beautiful as I.
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>>34303587
Can't wait for Trump to kill faggots like you
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>>34297591
If the girl wants to be dped she absolutely will.
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>>34296660
>has a girlfriend
>has had sex with more than one woman at a time
>women unironically desire his presence and body
>>but I'm totes a robot
Fuck off
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>>34296945
In the US religion is fading fast, projections show even Islam will grow by only 1% in 20.
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>>34296808
Being able to grow a proper beard is an automatic +1.5.
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>>34297591
Lol I remember some /soc/ roastie saying her bf invited his friend to live with them so he could fuck her, cus his penis was too small.
I thought cuckolds were rate, but holy shit. There could be cucks in your neighborhood watching Jerome breed his wife RIGHT NOW.
They could be teaching your kids, flying planes, and leading nations.
What the fuck is wrong with people???
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>>34303106
Holy shit newfag, that's been a thing on 4chan for at least 8 years. Reddit stole it from here dumbass.
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>>34296541
you should eat a bullet
you fucking normie
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>>34301481
Oh fuck you the world wars killed more men then feminism could ever even hope to
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>>34294871
Propose four men and four women. -

{
man:[woman,woman,woman,woman],
man:[],
man:[],
man:[],
}
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>>34295800
What did your gender add to that story?
Fuck off, whore. It's too bad Tyrone didn't rape you a new asshole
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>>34297838
I die of anxiety every time I go outside not even talk to people, what do you recommend for me doc?
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>>34295021
>because they're typically promiscuous
No, they make up a majority because they're typically transferring blood from one person to the other during their sexual interactions. Assholes don't self-lubricate like vaginas do.

fucking noscience retard get off my board reeee.
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>>34303753
You have no idea how damaging the run-on effects of feminism stunting society, medicine, healthcare, science, and human wealth are.
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>>34297838
Grant I know you just want the best from everyone but that's not true.
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>>34293174
we ARE animals retard
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>>34303821
show your work or you get no credit son
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>>34303821

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/53t91g/the_real_gender_gap_the_tax_gap/

Governments rarely give out these statistics because they seem to hint at a real financial gap between men and women that biases against the feminine narrative of oppression.
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>>34303611
Read the post. Anon only fucked his gf's friend because she wanted to fuck his gf.

No girl in the world would be ok with a guy fucking her as a justification for him getting to make out with her bf.
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>>34303862
>>34303879

They average woman is still gets more spent on her in tax money than what she puts in despite having a job.

This means that women are effectively flooding the job market so employers can treat people like shit as there will be a horde to replace them.

Women are overall a hole in the bucket and female employment is like punching the bottom out.
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>>34303936
>roasties keep shitting out kids and getting maternity leave
>come back and demand promotion
Kill them all
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>>34303862
Ask yourself:
>How much tax handouts to feminist causes costs
>How much the class of women employed by the government for the sake of keeping them in work costs
>How many people die because military, police and fire services choose recruits who aren't up to scratch because they have vaginas
>How much damage a bad law does, because it got passed by politicians selected on gender not merit
>How many lives a hospital costs because it hires on gender not merit
>How much income is lost to businesses and productive employees and the underemployed because it selected bad employees by gender
>How much more progress and better medical care that money would come to
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>>34303958
Maternity leave would be fine if women were only allowed into higher fields like science. The few women who do end up there are statistically more likely to return to work given a certain amount of payed maternity leave.

But overall maternity leave is just another stilleto to the testicles of the beta male sexual strategy.

They leach from us to forcibly give our provider money to women. Thus removing the only real way a non-chad has to guarantee a relationship.
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>>34303936
>>34303991
I meant with sources, like so >https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/53t91g/the_real_gender_gap_the_tax_gap/

Asking myself does absolutely nothing.
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>>34303958
I'm sure that's true in your head, but most places, especially small businesses, aren't even required to give women more than a week off for maturity leave.
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>>34303991

First world governments spend way more on women than the amount of money they produce. They take the excess from males who previously would have been able to use their money to leverage a marriage.
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I don't really see anything wrong with this. People can have choices no? Why wouldn't women want to fuck as many attractive guys as they want? Sorry they didn't choose you I guess, but if women want to fuck hot guys and only hot guys they have the right to do so.
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>>34304035
Nigga no matter how strong your argument is, if you link to reddit you lose. Either post a proper source or gtfo
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>>34304014
No, maternity leave is entirely wrong. A woman should choose to do her job or if she wants time off for any reason, child, holiday, to be homemaker and only work part time, whatever, then she should pay for it herself, either by her savings, lowering her living standards, or support by her husband.

The fact that she has the option of being supported by her husband is still a huge benefit she has over men, whether or not she takes it and whether or not she actually has children. Asking for even more than that, an even bigger advantage over men, subsidized by men, for something that's purely voluntary and her decision, is unethical.
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>>34303801

It's not broscience, moron. I mentioned the slightly increased risk due to the nature of gay sex already, but that is NOT the main cause, read some of the literature. The transmission rate between gays is still small when it comes to HIV. The primary reason is clearly promiscuity.
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>>34304049
Because most of them also want to get married.

Their behaviour literally ruins them as marriage material. After a few dicks the chances of a stable marriage drop below 30%.

But 80% want marriage.

So they should moderate themselves or make up their minds. They can't keep having the cake and eating it. Divorce rape is so common that most betas are unlikely to want to marry them.
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>>34304080
It's adorable how sure of yourself you are.
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>>34304076
Theres a link on the reddit to the actual study.

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2375926
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>>34304102
>more betas are unlikely to marry
And nothing of value was lost
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>>34304121
Should have posted it first. You're credibility took a ding.
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>>34304035
No, take any single one of those and tell me the bare minimum, the absolute least cost, you believe it could possibly have.

Then multiply it appropriately. The gender quotas for politicians? Take the smallest believable cost and multiply it by the number of politicians selected that way, then by the number of laws those politicians created, then the number of people those laws applied to, then by the time they've been the law from creation to present.

Then you have a figure, and even if you pick a cost of just $00.01 for the flawed law (unbelievably low to anyone who isn't a feminist), just see how big it is multiplied appropriately. Then consider all the others, and the forms of damage that weren't even listed.
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>>34304142
I can believe a man can fly nigger, it doesn't make it true. Post a source or shut up.
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>>34304080
Why do you think I said it should be ok for sciences etc. These women are likely motivated enough to seriously contribute to society.

The innacessability of the sciences and the fact that so few women join even with enourmous bias towards them means that there is no real downside to letting a few determined women have maternity leave.
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>>34304110
Female-tier ad hom.
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>>34304121
Whoops didn't read past "... in New Zealand..."
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>>34304167
Is it ad hom if it's a single post? Hmmm
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>>34304128
Betas don't walk off and die. They just spend a small amount of their potential work on keeping themselves comfy.

Western cultures thrived because hooking a beta to a roastie means he puts the majority of his potential labour power into supporting society.
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>>34304186
Fuck off Linkara
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Only you can fight the good fight.
Only you can restore the natural balance.
Whether it's through strength, intelligence or just artistic expression, every hand counts.
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>>34304168
Not many countries release the data because it basically confirms the existence of an anti-male bias larger than the debunked 77 cents for each dollar thing feminists were harping on about.
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>>34304158
So you actually dispute that even a single one of >>34303991 costs anything at all?

You literally think each and every one of them, and every possible similar example of the damage feminism has done that anyone else can think of, are as unlikely as a man being able to fly?

Because all you need to do is admit a single one has a cost of a single cent, and maths does the rest. The "sources" are your own estimate, even if you pick a figure impossibly low, and the ability to count. Ball's in your court, friend.
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>We live in an age were love, loyalty, and commitment are dead
>This is what "liberation" is
>Meaningless sex, failed attempts at relationships, lack of ability to form real bonds, and crippling depression.
Cheers boys. I wanna fucking die.
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>>34304190
You do realize that single people are the people that keeps society chugging. So stay single and consume! Consume! Consume! Stay comfy my friend.
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>>34304195
Wait, is this ad hom?
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>>34304209
OK, well we defo have data for new Zealand. Anything for North America? Maybe someplace between Canada and Mexico...? Cause that's the source that I require.
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>>34304166
>These women are likely motivated enough to seriously contribute to society.
Then they're motivated enough to take a pay cut or save up holiday leave or get some savings so they can take time off this work they're allegedly so dedicated to in order to have a kid, who totally won't take up any more of their dedication afterwards.

>means that there is no real downside to letting a few determined women have maternity leave.
Are you a communist? Do you think money is pulled out of a hat or grows on a magical tree? Are you saying it's fine to throw money away for good feels, and sexist discrimination, as long as it's not too much?
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i really dislike the fact in what denegerat times we live in and thats because of the internet where all this gets viral wich would not happen back then
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>>34304242
Wait, is this ad hominim??
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>>34304218
Then die. Simple.
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>>34304264
Spending the money is okay because women in high paying jobs are far more likely to come back if given maternity leave.

Other than that fuck them.

>>34304262
Most governments don't release the data.

I'll go look but theres nothing radically different between the new zealand economy and any other first world in terms of the labour force. NZ is pretty cucked.
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>>34304275
On it. Peace.
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>>34304211
No dumbass, but you said it's literally worse than both world wars combined
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>>34304272
Holy shit! What have you done?! Ad infinitum
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>>34293174
that picture is degeneracy
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>>34304329
not that anon. But while calculating the damage caused by feminism would be quite hard I think it would be preferable to have another WWII style conflict than have the feminist movement.

At least I would die young.
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>>34304340
It doesn't make sense, either. Why is Anna and Elsa sharing a bed, and why is Kristof sexing Anna while Elsa is there? Is that their kink? It makes zero sense, they could bang in front of servants and staff, not the ice queen, who can't be more disinterested. The caption makes the situation worse. Pure degeneracy.
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>>34304329
>No
Then give me your estimates and do the math.
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>>34304302
>Spending the money is okay because women in high paying jobs are far more likely to come back if given maternity leave.
Then a choice for the company, whether or not its chooses to gamble employee wages on individual employees, the minority of the minority who are female and choose to have children, at the expense of all the rest.
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>>34304414
Fuck you cunt, you're all the same
>make completely wild claim
>refuse to give sauce
>eventually ask others to prove you wrong even though you haven't made a legitimate claim in the first place
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>>34304466
>I can't add up numbers
>therefore your claim is illegitimate
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>>34304340
>tfw no qt gf who reassures and encourages you to bang other chicks
>tfw no qt gf who points out cute girls at the bar and then teases you to go talk to her, giggling when you blush and say 'you're all I want'
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>>34295110
>>34295163
>>34303801
>butthurt gaybies

Degenerate freaks. Of course homosexuals have the highest rate of transmission, they have 0 fidelity and prioritize sex over love. Naturally, because romance is not possible in any normal fashion between two men.

>>34295483
The beta uprising is when weaker males band together and forcibly equalize society on their own. Nobody will do it for us, so if we want it, we have to grab it and MAKE it happen. I'm talking about a return to absolute monogamy, no divorce, high penalties for adultery, possibly even dowry and arranged marriage. No contraception, no abortion. Civilized people lived this way happily for thousands of years. We have since degraded into a mating-call society where 'free sex' is dominated by a small popilation percentage. The beta uprising would have changed that, had it happened.

But it won't. It's a meme and dead idiocy. If anything, Rodgers killed it faster. Instead of fearing him, norps just bullied him more in death.
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>>34293174
It is so fucked up.
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>>34304444
I can accept that.

Less government interference.
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>>34304510
>Calls others degenerate
>supports the beta uprising
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>>34301481

Sorry you took 40 minutes to respond to me so I left the thread assuming you were gone.

>Feminism kills more people now than ever before. By rigging the game against men, it ruins lives...

Even assuming what you say is true, it's not 'third wave' feminism (which was our argument) that does this, it's gynocentrism + feminism, and that feminism is grounded primarily on the work of first-wavers, not on pink-hair wearing pro-sex slut walkers. Men kill

>How exactly do you calculate the costs of women through jobs and govt theft? Cost which all men pay. That's even ignoring the fact that you wouldn't have to be a beta provider.

I don't know the cost but I assume billions of dollars in my country at least, based on the incomes stolen from men and tax spending. Yes, men pay for these things but most men also support many of these programs and measures due to GYNOCENTRISM, which was accelerated by feminism in general - primarily building on the success of women getting the vote, not third wave feminism.

>Source? Rape hysteria in college culture is huge, and through social and institutional stigma doesn't even need to go to court to ruin lives.

Rape hysteria is just an attempt to use social misandry to push men out of spaces where they'd otherwise compete with women. You could certainly argue that a large part of the 'third wave' focuses on this, but "rape" hysteria and so on in general go back to the first wavers doing things like institution gender-segregation in prisons, which allows women to simply warehouse men falsely accused and imprisoned in these cases. Most of this culture of accusation exists because of GYNOCENTRISM, btw, not 'third wave' feminism.

Nowhere was I defending feminism, I'm attacking cucks who scapegoat the "third wave" while avoiding the issue that WOMEN, GYNOCENTRISM, and feminism IN GENERAL are the issues.
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>>34304510
Oh the moralfagging. Make it stop.
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>>34304578
Gosh you're kinda insufferable. Are you in college, and if so what major are you and degree are you working towards?
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>>34304510

You're practically advocating a 'return' to a society that only ever existed in the minds of feminist fetishists like Margaret Mead.

"Patriarchy" has never existed, only the opposite.

A Beta Uprising only needs a couple of things to succeed:

>Funding multiple bit-coin style encrypted currencies. This will eventually lead to a culture where men control the products of their own labour rather than having anything they produce cucked through fiat currency, central banking, and taxation. Encrypted currencies would entirely circumvent this situation and would starve women of the billions they steal from men. Women would then evaluate men more based on the moral qualities of those men, rather than having contempt for the rubes they stole from. It would also starve centralised financial interests of the funds which lend them the ability to propagandise lies like the "wage gap" myth on behalf of roasties.

>Supporting a decentralised, unassailable internet - both in terms of infrastructure and services (kill fucking google). If the internet can not be disabled or disrupted, and if people can communicate freely through encryption all the time... nation-states are going to start losing power, all power is going to start falling back to INDIVIDUAL MALES.
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>>34304578
>Sorry you took 40 minutes to respond to me so I left the thread assuming you were gone.
Sorry. I was posting in other threads.

>Nowhere was I defending feminism, I'm attacking cucks who scapegoat the "third wave" while avoiding the issue that WOMEN, GYNOCENTRISM, and feminism IN GENERAL are the issues.
I'm not scapegoating "third wave" and I agree where the problems are. Feminism is bad to the core, but it's got more overtly gynocentrist over time, due to its victories. Every win means it needs to find something even more unjust to turn female supremacist next.

For example, your case of gender segregated prisons, which I didn't know about, was won by early on by feminists, so they could then make their rape hysteria even more hysterical. It's a single movement that gets progressively worse because there's progressively less it hasn't already destroyed.

Rigging the game against men is another example. Quotas are newer because there were other things to fight before, but now there is more demand for them and they're becoming more mainstream. Same with feminist censorship. It has nothing else to do, but increasingly much it's already done, so silencing anyone who would try to turn the tide on it becomes more important.

So I'm not ignoring the other problems. "Third wave" is the current front against men/fairness because the others are already completed. I agree the whole gynocentrism is the problem.

>>34304644
What is he or she wrong about?
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>>34304688
>what is she or he wrong about
No clue, no sources for any claims were provided so I'm pretty sure it's an opinion. It reads like every bullshit academic paper I've ever read, which is why I was wondering his/her college bg.
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>>34304644

The whole thread of our argument was over whether modern or 'early' feminism was worse.

Modern feminism is not only built on early feminism, but it's much more benign in that feminism already got so bad long ago that modern feminism is actually BENEFICIAL to males. It HELPS me that women in my society are turning the state against men and openly declaring that men are a class to be ignored as victims of violent crime for example, because it helps me avoid getting cucked by falsely believing that I'll get justice if falsely accused, for example.

Modern feminism is mostly going to hurt men who frankly deserve to some degree to get hurt... it usually hurts men who are so utterly blue-pilled or manginaesque that they've already hurt various other males before they get hurt themselves.

Modern feminism is literally pic related - it helps any half-intelligent male to identify threats. I'm much safer being hardcore red-pilled today than being a blue-pilled male living in 1940 or 1970.
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>>34304735
Which claims exactly do you disbelieve? Have you tried searching online?
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>>34304644
>>34304735

I'm insufferable. Yet you're the one demanding sources for every claim posted in at thread on r9k.

If you have a problem with something I've said, why don't you ask for a source for that specific claim? I'm a NEET.
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Modern feminism has quite literally lead to the enslavement of the producing men in all but name.

The average woman is never under $50,000 in debt from what the government has spent on her. The average man produces so much that he can retire for 20 years and still not be in the negative.


This means that you are having your resources unfairly distributed to women so that they have the financial freedom to not have sex with you.

What the fuck
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women are getting more and more cunty by the day

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/5p5um9/women_of_reddit_what_do_you_wish_selfproclaimed/?sort=new

just read these replies

yes I hate nice guys white knights just as much as anyone else, but holy shit these bitches are DELUSIONAL
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>>34304764
My opinion isn't the one that needs validated. Like I said, it reads like bullshit program work, sans the sources. Citing where you pulled your ideas is a large part of having your work taken seriously.
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>>34303879
>>34304820
I've been reading r/MensRights lately. It's really infuriating the shit men face.

I don't see the point in reading the women talking about 'nice guys' though. I only read reddit where the posters are at least on the right side like MR or to see their personal anecdotes, not their opinions. "What experiences have you had with nice guys"/"as a nice guy" would be a better question to see how women and white knights act.
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>>34304817

Don't forget that there are vast areas that aren't covered by the analysis you're quoting.

Just one example - practically every company that women are employed at (when they work in the private sector) were created by men. Society has a way of making sure that if men are entrepreneurial and create a company or product that does well - as soon as it takes off, women become entitled to a share of that company's jobs and so on.

It also probably ignores the triple-dipping effect, too. Most government employees are female (65% on average, in some sectors of government it's 90%+), this doesn't even include women who are teachers in public schools or schools partly funded by government. So men get taxed, these taxes are spent primarily on women, and the system that administers the spending of these taxes tends to be overwhelmingly staffed by women... and when these women spend their money? It's been shown that women tend to spend most of their money in areas that benefit women!
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>>34304903
If you like feeling infuriated go browse through trp and the affiliated blogs.

Then channel that infuriatedness into getting fit rather than joining the horde of keyboard warriors getting nowhere.
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>>34304817
How stupid am I that I never thought of asking what this chart would look like? It's such an obvious thing to wonder.

What is all the extra that the govt spends on women? Is it mostly that they put less back in by having lower earning jobs?

This really is enslavement, collectively, of half of society.

Openly addressing it and calling for this inequality to change would leave you considered a sexist. But it can be indirectly challenged by reducing how much the government spends at all and changing tax to be more equal and less punishing on men.
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>>34304659
All currency is fiat retard
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>>34304939
I haven't gone to TRP yet. But the romance and entitlement side of it isn't what infuriates me the worst, although it is wrong.

The worst is the way society, men and women, treat men as expendable objects. Circumcision, quotas, double standards, under-performing in education, being abandoned when they need help.
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>>34305062

'Currency' is something that faciliates exchange of goods and services, so bitcoin could be called a currency.

If I agree with you and a handful of other people that three smiling emojis are worth an apple, and we start trading and redeeming apples for smiling emjois - we've created a currency.

A 'fiat' currency is one that's enforced by law - so for example here in Australia all companies and businesses are required by law to accept Australian Dollars. Most countries also have laws about trading in alternate currencies, because the government doesn't want competition.

By removing the 'fiat' or forced aspect, and making it encrypted you can allow people to circumvent the inflation caused by central banking and to avoid taxation - both of which fund feminism, women, and gynocentrism.

Do you understand now, retard?
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>>34305074
What's the romance side if it?
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>>34305169
Things like female entitlement, nice guys/white knights, how women have the power in relationships. Isn't that what TRP is mainly about?
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>>34305204
Dunno, I'm not an mra, I don't browse that stuff. I was just wondering what level the conversation was on.
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>>34305074
Thanks for the (You)

It's damn abominable. I don't even blame thots too much. They are just taking advantage of a system run by an increasingly smalle portion of the population. They aren't aware enough to make a counter-decision.


The top percent are slicing off our means of competition when previously most of us gave it up to women anyway to start a family.

Except now we get nothing and they get all the women.
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>>34305217
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/
>The Red Pill: Discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men.
Yeah, it's romance/PUA stuff. It looks like it could be an interesting read about gender dynamics, but it's not really the same of gender inequality I'm interested in.
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>>34305363
>when previously most of us gave it up to women anyway to start a family.
But that was an individual trade. By changing society to be female-biased, men lose the power to opt-out of choose which women they help, and all women get the benefits instead of having to find a man.
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>>34293174
This whole thread is an absolute fucking travesty
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>>34305458
Abloobloo, did your white knight/fembot feefees get hurted?
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>>34303371
No it isn't. Men rate women on a smooth bell curve, women rate men, o,o,o,o,o'o,o, 8,9. have you seen the chart?
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>>34296410
>Unless women are all turning gay this is statistically impossible.
you're talking about two different things. OBVIOUSLY the arithmetic mean number of relationships per person is the same. no one is talking about that though.

he said "the average woman", nowhere did he reference the "average number of relationships". by "average", he means "typical"

that is, given a randomly chosen man and woman, what is the chance that the woman has the higher number of relationships? the answer is 80%
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>>34305392
Yeah, I'm not interested in the redpill, thanks reddit.
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>>34305426
Opt out of what?
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>>34305426
The day a bachelor tax is discussed in the us is the day we really know this is true.

Women likely don't know about this. They follow the mainstream media remember?

The mainstream media is only just now starting to trickle some truths about womens fertility. In decades past and even now, most women think fertility doesn't really drop until their thirties. When in reality the most fertile years start from the time menstruation stabilizes (usually around 15-16) and only drops from there. It accelerates rapidly from around 29 as well.

Premarital partners also has a negative correlation with marital stability.

A virgin girl has around an 80% chance of a stable marriage but by the time you get to 3 dicks it's dropped to a 30% chance.

Using census data I calculated that us women have sex that might result in an unintended or unwanted pregnancy (casual sex or maybe rape) ONCE A WEEK

FROM THE DAY THEY TURN 15 TO THE DAY THEY TURN 29


And that meant reducing the virgin female population in the 15-17 age group down from the self reported 73% to 35%

Half of "virgin women" are lying.

When put against the threat of a lie detector and given the option of an anonymous response the number of partners a women claims to have had jumps from 2 and a quarter to 4.5

But 80% of women want marriage. But the average woman has permanently jeapordised her chances of having a stable marriage. Good luck red pilling them on that. The cognitive dissonance is so strong I wouldn't expect men to overcome it.
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>>34305535
Not that guy, but it's basic redpill prosthelytizing. Parrots squawking in an echo chamber.
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>>34305559
Show me the chart!!
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>>34305426
>>34305686
>opt-out or* choose which woman to support
opt-out of choosing to support a woman at all. You can do that when support is through marriage, but not when it's through taxes.

>>34305694
>The day a bachelor tax is discussed in the us is the day we really know this is true.
We already know it's rue. The statistics don't lie.
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>>34305730
You mean opt out of society?
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>>34293214
>beta uprising
Are /robot/s actually serious about this? I considered this a joke since the term itself is an oxymoron.
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>>34305701
Did you know that feminism has killed more people than a World War before this thread?
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>>34305782
Directly?
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>>34305741
No, just don't be a beta provider. In the past you could choose not to marry, now you'll always be paying for women through your taxes and the unfair distribution of govt welfare towards women at your expense.
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>>34305799
Oooo-taxes! Shucks not taxes. This doesn't bother me.
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>>34305844
Go move to Socialist Venezuela and tell me how much you like them then!
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>>34305921
Or I can live in the US, continue to pay taxes, and support the society we live in.
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>>34305710
This is stretched and that makes the female side disproportionatly larger. But this is a graph of how men and women rate each-other against their sucess and power in the online dating market. I think this graph is tinder for example.
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>>34305943

That society is taking your money and just tossing chunks of it at women. Before the government did not do this. And women actually had incentives to marry young because they weren't having a life of indulgence payed for by men.

If they lived a life of indulgence they would remove all chances of future stability.

So the governments have taken away your power and the women who needed your money/ security and is giving nothing back.

Taxes are the foundation of society but here they are being used as a glass shackle to keep as many people as possible from rising by not even giving them the choice to keep their money to themselves.
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>>34305943
>lives in one of the least socialist countries
>defends socialism
>shits on people who object to socialist gender-classism
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>>34306009
You can keep saying that but it doesn't bother me. It doesn't bother me that my taxes pay for assistance of the less fortunate.

For the record, I also think marrying young is for the birds.
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>>34306009
Great pic.

>here they are being used as a glass shackle to keep as many people as possible from rising by not even giving them the choice to keep their money to themselves.
It's plain supremacism. No different from enslaving one race to the service of another or forcing dhimmis to pay jizyah to the ruling faith.
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>>34306028
How did I defend socialism? And I'm not even sure what socialist general classism is. Care to explain?
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>>34306098
>taxes are enslavement
Kek.
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>>34306116
>>34306104
>Care to explain?
Care to hear? I doubt it.
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>>34306073
Men accumulate value with wealth and wisdom. They start low and reach high.

Women's value is in their late teens early 20s. Men peak towards mid 30s.

So either pair young women with middle aged men or pair young women to promising young men.

Fertility sinks like a rock after 29.
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>>34306009

Women have married the 'Bull' state. They even use the Bull state to literally bully men out of their own homes in "domestic violence" cases.
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>>34306131
I wouldn't have asked if I didn't want to hear it.
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>>34306116
The complaint isn't about taxes. It is that the governments of the developed world have made the system less fair than it was for their own benifit and security.

There was a point at which taxation was actually a reasonable compensation for the benefits of society. Now they've replaced ropes with chains.
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>>34306009

the idea that women on welfare are living the high life is pretty funny. you going to whine about welfare queens next? you know they're a fiction reagan made up so that you'd be okay with him shafting rural white people even harder, right?
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>>34306133
Or don't pair at all. That's a choice. Opt out of the breeding cycle and stay single. For the most part a woman's fertility is one small facet when choosing a mate.
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>>34306179
Regardless of the level of taxation, high or low, there's the separate issue of the bias of it. You can have any level and it's still immoral to use it to penalize one sector or society to the benefit of another. That's racial supremacism, religious supremacism or in this case sex supremacism.
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>>34306179
Would you mind clarifying what taxes were allocated to what prior to when, and explain what you mean by ropes and chains.
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>>34306210
I'm not sure how men are being penalized.
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>>34306193
Never said they were financially living the high life. My mother is a "wellfare queen" so I'm aware it's not actually easy. But at she is just able to keep going which means she does not need no man.

But they are incentivised to ruin their chances of ever having a fulfilling ltr which despite what feminism may seem to suggest 80% of them still do.
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>>34306246
Financial independence is a great thing. Good for your mom. Hopefully she gets a chance to find another mate, if that's indeed what she wants.

Where did this 80%number come from?
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>>34306317
*financial independence from staying in a shit relationship
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>>34306210
>>34306217

Here is how I Imagine the old western world. Back in the good old days of monogamy and wife beating.

A man's tax money was primarily spent on maintaining infrastructure. Women were given little or nothing because they did not work or only worked rarely.

Because men were producing wealth and women were not, women had to rely on men to get security. The government had no sympathy for thots.

Most men would trade the majority of their surplus wealth to buy a stay at home pussy. having children is more than a good feeling. It's good politics as well. Even men who hated kids wanted children.

So most men would voluntarily trade their surplus wealth for exclusive pussy rights. She depended on him and was pretty much a soft slave.

She would work around the house because she valued the relationship. If she didn't behave she would be out and have nothing. Even the kids belonged to the man.


The current system is like the old system but you don't get a woman. The government just takes most of your surplus anyway.

Women in the workplace are a deficit to society on average. Not a positive.
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>>34306193

Not him but internationally there's this vast aparatus of organisations working to make sure that money is systematically transferred to women. They simply make up false lies and stats which get believed because they're gynocentric lies - lies like "When a man is given aid, he spends most of the money on himself, while a woman given aid spends most of it on her family", this is a common quote that you find repeated by many international agencies and the US President, the Clinton charities, the IMF, UN, etc... and they're based on literally nothing but one person having previously said it, and the quote itself isn't grounded in much reality at all. So internationally now, around the world women are being given more and more aid while men are ignored - the very people who need it most AND who contribute most to families and society.

This same principle is taking place within western societies, and it's not just 'welfare', it's a huge system of redistribution. Consider equality in banking legislation that requires that information on women being less likely to pay back loans can't be taken into account - so government student loan programs in Australia give women an unlimited supply of credit to study what they want, and the money mostly gets paid back by men taxed by the system. In insurance, gender discrimination IS allowed when it benefits women - health insurance costs for women are spread over men, to the tune of billions of dollars. Then there's the wage-gap industry which lobbies for the transfer of billions of dollars worth of job opportunities from men to women.

Sure, on an individual level the impact may be minor, but this is a huge social justice issue. Shouldn't people who DO work be the ones who benefit from it? Why are the poorest, most powerless people in society - males in third world countries - systematically ignored by aid? Why does some aid actually ENCOURAGE male suicide (like Indian farmer suicide bonuses for widows)?
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>>34295669

>A key difference also is that they dont do it to fill a void in their life like the usual beta does


This is one of the most sharp comments I've seen on robot nature since the inception of this board.
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>>34306210

Unless you consider the possibility that certain groups might end up needing welfare more than others and it's simply to the purpose of what welfare was created for to reallocate money from the one group to the other. Like with the rich and the poor, for instance. The rich will never need welfare but still pay for it; it would be easy to construe this as "penalizing" the rich for being rich and that is indeed how many of them take it, but really that's just what welfare is supposed to be, those who can helping those who can't. Why should that mission be stopped for the mere appearance that one group is being "favored" for no reason? Especially when the hard reasoning behind the "favor" is readily apparent?

And the bigger picture here is that when societies have stronger social services, those doing well get to live in a better world as well. One that will have less crime, less social upheaval and more innovation because more people are put in environments that allow them to grow and accomplish things. The really rich only spend 5-10% of what they earn in a year anyway, so they only lose money they wouldn't ever spend to build a safe society that will absolutely allow them to succeed; that provides the infrastructure, resources and people needed to succeed.

You have to look at the big picture when you're talking about big picture programs like welfare, and part of the big picture is that the recipients aren't part of a different society somewhere else, they're part of your society, right down the street.
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>>34306317
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/susan-shapiro-barash/women-want-to-get-married-be-wives_b_2110246.html

have a huffpost article
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>>34306403
>here's how I imagine...
That's some hard evidence you got. So it's either male "enslavement" via taxes or literal female servitude. Tough choice, but i'm going with taxes.
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>>34306477
No actually. Before you had the option to say no. Or adopt a kid. That sort of thing.

Now you need a plane ticket to sandniggerstan
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>>34306460
Jesus christ people, stop linking to unreliable sources. If you have a proper source, link that, not some dipshit thinkpiece editorializing the source.
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>>34306441

Not him but look at Australia.

In the past few years, they've been rolling back assistance to the involuntarily unemployed benefit (Newstart allowance), and imposing a 'work for the dole' scheme which forces those who get the benefit to work shitty minimum wage make-work. While at the same time benefits for women were being expanded. The same government that imposed all these restrictions on Newstart (The majority of those on Newstart a male) were increasing benefits to women like paid maternity leave, they were literally trying to (they failed for the time being) pay women at the same rate as their income for maternity leave up to 6 months - so a woman earning $100k would get $50k from the government, almost 10 times the rate of newstart).

They push men into slavery if the men have trouble working the shitty jobs they're forced into, while women get more and more bonuses. The maternity leave scheme i'm mentioning is just one small example of how women get free shit from the government.
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>>34306511
I'm still failing to see how opting out of pairing is enslavement.
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>>34306477
The modern scenario is that a large portion of wealth that should be yours will be given to women who despite flooding the job market are not preoducing enough to make up for what is spent on them.

And you don't get exclusive pussy rights either.
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>>34306418
>They simply make up false lies and stats

well now we're off to the rodeo. i'm guessing if i pressed on any of this shit i'd be met with dubious reports in favor of your theories and systematic ignoring of anything official that appears to contradict it.

for instance, i don't see anything about indian farmers getting bonuses for committing suicide. what i do read is that in the areas where it's a problem it's just that there's lots of economic woes and a tacit cultural acceptance of suicide. it also seems to be the case that the widows in this area aren't getting bonuses, but instead stand a good chance of getting saddled with debt that's now harder to pay off.

so what's the upshot here? "well those are all mainstream sources so it's lies and propaganda, soros is out to get us all"?
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>>34306556
Be truthful, is all of this male enslavement jazz a reaction to non-sponge-worthy males not getting the p? Because that really seems like the overarching theme.
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>>34306533
Hi fellow ausbot (I think)

Totally agree. I think that a lot of the centerlink benefits are being rolled back now as well.

Given my neet status I should probably be worried but maybe I can drawfag myself some money or something.

And the payed maternity leave thing failed thankfully. Only skilled/ proffessional women should be compensated for leaving the workforce.
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>>34306584

>well now we're off to the rodeo. i'm guessing if i pressed on any of this shit i'd be met with dubious reports in favor of your theories and systematic ignoring of anything official that appears to contradict it.

You mean like the wage gap? Do you believe in the wage gap? That there's systematic discrimination against women in the workplace?? The quote I gave you was a paraphrase of an actual quote that I've researched which didn't have a single authoritative source, but it was quoted (or paraphrased sometimes) by the office of the US President, IMF, UN, Clinton charities, etc. Pic related is a similar lie that got quoted by hundreds of sources including government ministers where I live (in fact, the current Prime Minister quoted it before he became PM).

>for instance, i don't see anything about indian farmers getting bonuses for committing suicide...

If you research the issue, it's been widely admitted by everyone involved that the financial assistance for widows of farmers who kill themselves has been a major MOTIVATOR of the suicides themselves, in other words - very poor men are seeing it as necessary to kill themselves in order to make sure their wives and children don't end up starving...and instead of finding a way to assist struggling farmers, they various people involved only ADD to the financial assistance to widows! You can't make this up, the same agencies that admit the financial assistance has encouraged male suicides INCREASE the motivation.
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>>34306533

Okay, so six months of money for bringing a child into the world, which is itself a huge expense, is a money laundering scheme for women in your universe? Even if it's one that's tied to the woman's income, which isn't going to be that high in the majority of cases?

You don't think that has more to do with trying to help children and less to do with some misandrist conspiracy, with how specific and short-term that help is?
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>>34306600
Not getting the pussy is a symptom.

Chances are it was a lot of sexually frustrated guys who started piecing the puzzle together inbetween burst of fapping.

The problems are real. And getting angry about genuine injustice (things a demonstrably less fair) is only natural.

If you are on the abused side you should be angry. But try to stay rational as well.

And it's "enslavement" in loose terms. You could move out but all the places with good infrastructure are like this.
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>>34306654
unrelated post and response, is that doko roko fan art?
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>>34306584
>>34306672

...and here's a follow up pic to the one I've posted here >>34306672 , it's the ABC in Australia responding to a complaint about their misreporting, they admit that the stat was false, but go short of going into any meaningful detail. Only a

>>34306701

Holy shit. Did you read my example? They are pushing men who are out of work (sometimes men as young as 18) into forced work for their "unemployment benefit", while ONTOP of the various schemes and bonuses mothers get (there are many), they're now being given 10 times the amount an unemployed male would get?? Women who are already employed and earning decent money, and in most cases have partners? That men are not eligible for this childcare leave (in that while it's transferable to the male partner, there is no paternity leave - so obviously the woman will be the one who receives it, whether she has a partner or not).

You're dismissing it as a 'conspiracy theory', but it was literally feminists who lobbied for this. Feminists are the ones who made 'maternity leave' an issue, and yes - demanding that men in general, including single or gay males, to pay for your full income for 6 months because you decided to have a baby is sexist and misandric.
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>>34306722
I didn't know that was actually a thing. I found a gif somewhere and was vaguely inspired.

Thanks for that. I guess it is unintentional fanart?
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>>34306711
I'm all for an equal gender field, but framing the situation as "enslavement" and "male penalization" is fucking absurd. As is attempting to change society so it forces women to settle down with unqualified mates simply for financial reasons.

Honestly, the only parts of mra prosthelytizing that get under my skin is the rhetoric used, the targets they choose, and the extreme changes they propose. It's a major turn off to anyone that's looking for a pure egalitarian approach.
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>>34306810

>As is attempting to change society so it forces women to settle down with unqualified mates simply for financial reasons.

Nobody is forcing a woman to prostitute herself out, feminist. He's saying men should retain possession of the fruits of their labour and shouldn't be compelled by government to hand it over to women so women can enjoy the benefits of marriage to thousands of males without any of the responsibilities. Many men would love to have sex from women without the obligation to provide money, but using force to compel sex from women would be a violation of those women's bodies.
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>>34306810
If women don't want to settle down in a monogamous system they have an ethical option.

Actually produce enough to counterbalance or exceed what the government spends on you.

Women should totally have the option to work. So long as they are capable of producing more or equal to what they use. Otherwise they are just getting in the way of men who already produce more than they use.

Doubling the labour force sounds like a good thing. But a combination of technology and the ease with which employers can lay of employees counters that.

Women do not enslave men. Men enslave more men and ubuse women. Damaged women then abuse the men to try and recover (divorce "rape")

A few years ago I was egalitarian. But our biology prevents true egalitarianism.

What do you value more? quality of life or equality?
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>>34306770

Listen up buddy, shitting on the poor and unemployed with "quit being lazy" things like forced labor is not predicated on those unemployed being male, it is predicated on simple human shittiness about the poor "not contributing" even though they have no chance to. It takes compassion to see that people on the dole are desperate, not lazy, and it's a compassion that most populations are short on. Plenty of that shit happens here in the states. It's an entirely separate issue from trying to make maternity leave more accessible for parents, so at least someone can be home with the kid for the trying first few months. It's frankly just easier to sell traditional people on letting women go home to take care of children, although apparently not that easy since it failed. The only connection between these things is the one you've imagined.

I see you and your infographics here. Mistakes circulating freely through the internet and never getting corrected is not evidence of preferential treatment for women, it's just how the internet is; with all these "fake news" scandals popping up, I'd think it would be clear to everyone that it's very easy for any kind of misinformation to spread. But of course you've written extensive infographics about this one thing because it's just right to tie into your shadow realm of fear. Yes, you're a conspiracy theorist.
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>>34306672
>If you research the issue

i did, no mention of your shit, plenty of the shit i just posted. begone, feeble-mind.
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>>34293318
Should I see Frozen? Will I cry?
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>>34306847
I didn't say he said it, but read thru the thread and see how many people support a solution that requires women to refrain from working so they have to settle down and rely on a man.
As I said prior, I don't mind my taxes going to support the less fortunate. I'd prefer it spend there as opposed to, say, military. Sorry, clown shoes.
Also what male "fruits of labor" are being handed over to women?
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>>34306918
It made me cry anon, a number of times.
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>>34306847
I reckon the women get less than the benefit of one traditional marriage back from the government. They get enough to not need men for money so hypergamy leads them to fuck the same men enforcing the system.

Then when their ovaries start to shrivel and their tits begin to sag the top men turn to the next lot of cute young women and leave the 30 year olds with nothing.

So patriarchy is real and it abuses women. The glass cieling is real but its there for most men too. It's just only a minority of men are the patriarchy and the feminists don't spend much time attacking them because they are too busy getting funded by soros to beat up the majority of men.

ironic imo
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>>34306881
How would a woman go about counterbalancing or exceeding female expenditures via the government?
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>>34306883

>Listen up buddy, shitting on the poor and unemployed with "quit being lazy" things like forced labor is not predicated on those unemployed being male...

But do you notice how that when poverty is 'feminised', there is no call to cut this funding? That there are common and frequent calls and always new schemes to increase that funding? Isn't this evidence of a gynocentric preference? The SAME government which cut back all this funding for the involuntarily unemployed was expanding benefits for women - not just women with children, but women in general in various ways.

>Mistakes circulating freely through the internet

The 'mistake' wasn't just 'circulating through the internet', it was widely reported by hundreds of mainstream news sources, they didn't bother to fact check a very basic claim, and this is far more common with gynocentric claims - not just fleeting ones either, the 'wage gap' myth or the gendered framing of domestic violence are ongoing issues where anyone with half a brain can see how sexist, unfair, and dishonest these claims are - yet they THRIVE, especially within powerful organisations and government. Why don't we see male-centric lies thriving within mainstream society? It's because gynocentric lies thrive because they serve women, who have vastly more power than men.
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>>34306919
>>34304817

The average woman has more spent on her than she will ever make in value.

Unless the government is magicking money from somewhere the difference MUST offset by the average male or an external condition.

The actual proposed solution was removing women from low skilled labour. If she wants to be an actuary or a physicist she should be given every oppurtunity.
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>>34307001
Where do you live myman?

Muted again.
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>>34306919

>I didn't say he said it, but read thru the thread and see how many people support a solution that requires women to refrain from working so they have to settle down and rely on a man.

The vast majority of women will openly admit that they prefer to date and marry men with 'means', this has been a reality since the dawn of time. Women want financial stability, they want to be safe and provided for. This would all be alright, but this shouldn't give them the right to compel the extraction of resources and opportunities from men. Men are saying "please don't steal my only means of bartering an equitable partnership agreement with women", and this is morally sound and actually benefits women. Do you think women who end up spending the last 40 years of their lives alone actually enjoy what they've become?

>As I said prior, I don't mind my taxes going to support the less fortunate. I'd prefer it spend there as opposed to, say, military. Sorry, clown shoes.

Women aren't the less fortunate, though.

>Also what male "fruits of labor" are being handed over to women?

This was already clear - the tax burden on males, and stolen job opportunities through wage-gap activism, quotes, equality in banking legislation and healthcare, etc. All things that feminists oppenly lobbied for under the admitted and open intention of undermining the role of males as 'providers'.
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>>34307049

Australia. Why do you ask?
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>>34306986
Pick dangerous jobs that pay more.
Or pick highly skilled or highly educated jobs that pay more.

They choose of their own free will not to go for the dangerous jobs.

There is funding exclusive for women to enter the sciences but they choose (off their free will despite the incentives) not to.

Arguably she would have a harder time catching up. But if she was trying she wouldn't need most of the tax money that is spent on her.
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>>34307031
And if women are removed from low skilled labor, but lacks the means for required educational/vocational training?

Also, who fills the vacuum of "low skilled labor"? Men I assume?

And isn't women wanting higher paid/sought after positions something that feminism has tried to work towards? Plus wouldn't that change the market to where women are filling the majority of those positions, leaving men to rely on females?

These are all serious questions, I'm not hip to the mra tenants.
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>>34307130

>prosthelytizing
>tenants

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm...
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>>34293214
You misspelled "bottom 0.01%".
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>>34307053
To further this someone might ask
"well why is this so bad. Yeah we're a little worse off but society is still stable enough"


Western society dominated the world because we gave betas a reason to actually use their muscles.

Women want to get the attention of hawt men but they also want security for their children as they are not assholes.

Men would ideally have loadsa sex with loadsa women and not have to do shit. But almost all men are stronger than all women so they have a surplus of potential labour that won't get used if they don't want to use it.


Marriage is a compromise of sexual strategy. It's called mysoginistic but ironically it's a pretty good middle ground.

A married man has to work hard to keep his pussy exclusive. so instead of mooching around all day he goes out and hunts or farms or builds rockets.

Suddenly your output grows exponentially the more monogamous your society gets.

You can outcompete a poligamous society because only a few of the men in it actually give a shit.

We are returning to a poligamous society.
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>>34307053
I feel like you have a very one-dimensional view regarding what women are looking for, especially considering there's no shortage of couples in lower class tiers.

Women who are receiving federal assistance are by definition less fortunate.
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>>34307062
Just curious about how we differ culturally. I sometimes forget that, as an American, my contingency is possibly small, and being unfamiliar with foreign politics makes it easy to put my foot in my mouth.
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>>34307130
Employee surplus means employers can pay less and treat you like garbage.

So men will fill those low skilled jobs.

And as stated men have been trying to get women to do high paying work for decades but they prefer comfy work and most fail to compete with men in terms of productivity.

Biology is a big block for women in executive roles. They only want to marry up.
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>>34307144
Original Hmmmmmmmm?

Unoriginally
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>>34307187

>I feel like you have a very one-dimensional view regarding what women are looking for, especially considering there's no shortage of couples in lower class tiers.

Not at all, and no man ever LIKED the fact that women need provision, it's mentioned in the OT as being a 'curse' that men would have to work to provide. The point is, feminists openly said they wanted to undermine the male ability to provide for women, because these feminists saw it as a conspiracy to keep women subservient, feminists like Elizabeth Cady-Stanton wanting to establish a "matriarchate" or matriarchal society saw this is the central issue. Their solution wasn't for women to become independent and self-sufficient, it was to get government to compel these resources and effort out of men.

These were deluded, hystrionic women and the number of lives they've destroyed in the process probably can't even be imagined. The point is men have a moral right to the products of their labour, and women have a right to reject males - but the current system allows women to objectify men and collectise male efforts - while denying many men even the most basic compansionship, many of these women could easily be in functional, happy relationships with these men - and these men would be objectively more desirable if they weren't treated like shit.

>Women who are receiving federal assistance are by definition less fortunate.

Not less fortunate than men, and not less fortunate than significant numbers of men and women throughout the world.
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>>34307230
I dunno if men have been trying to get women to do high paid work for decades. There's still a "boys club" attitude in alot of fields.
But I agree, women should try to get further in whatever field they choose.

II'd imagine the biological aspect has more to do with ye Olde "family v career" jibber jabber.
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>>34307253

...and I'll add (though I resent having to frame things in terms of female interest), that it's hilarious how many FEMALE lives are ruined by this policy. Women who sleep around and marry the state always end up unhappy and miserable, and usually hated by their own children - as their own sons grow up to realise what their own mothers do to men in general, and see how toxic and disturbed these women have become... and young girls of those mothers often end up being just as dysfunctional as their mothers.

All they had to do was be even REMOTELY fair to men.
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>>34293174
I did this with my roommate. Honestly much easier and safer.
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>>34307253
>mfw I used to live across the road from a public housing block like that
>mfw it was ALL 25-30 year old bogan roasties with one or two poorly behaved little shit kids living there
Utterly disgusting desu living in close proximity to that many skanks.
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>>34307253
What I'm saying is, if women were only on the make for providers then there would be a large amount of lower class/unemployed men without female companionship, which there isn't. It's reductive to assume that women only couple with men who can provide financially, when that's obviously a smaller facet of what women find desirable in a mate.

A woman on government assistance is less fortunate than someone not needing that assistance.
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>>34307350

>What I'm saying is, if women were only on the make for providers then there would be a large amount of lower class/unemployed men without female companionship...

First of all, I didn't say that the providership is the ONLY thing women are after, but it's a major element of a long-term relationship, and that's the key - long term.

It is actually far, far more common for lower class and unemployed men to lack in female companionship. This is especially the case when it comes LTR and marriage. Were you literally raised in a basement? Honestly, I hate to use the label - but autism comes to mind.

>A woman on government assistance is less fortunate than someone not needing that assistance.

An unemployed male with a wife and dependents or who would LIKE a wife and children needs assistance far more than a roastie. When the government provide assistance to women, they are marginalising men as partners and providers. Yet the same government will chase after men who fail to provide!
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>>34307287
I'm sorry, which policy are we talking about again?
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>>34307279
The boys may have a bit of a club but they are offering girls a lot of money if they want to join say the STEM fields.

The biological aspect is partly social pressure and partly actual biology. Our evolved survival mechanisms didn't reward equality. They rewarded survival.

Our bodies reward us with pleasure for eating sugary sweet food because food was often an unreliable resource. Now we have a surplus of food and 60% of americans are overweight or obese.

Our reward systems are capable of working against us in the modern environment. It's presumptuous to assume that our sexuality can't or hasn't been effected to the same degree. Especially since sex happens behind closed doors and proper contraceptive usage lowers the risk of pregnancy from 10% (fluctuates between 5.8% and 30% depending on the progress of the menstrual cycle) all the way down to 0.0001% if used properly.

We know overeating causes obesity and that everyone will see it but more than half of the first world does it anyway.

Sex is a lot less risky than that.
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>>34295110
wut
vast majority of new HIV cases are men who have sex with men
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>>34307399
>Honestly, I hate to use the label - but autism comes to mind.
Autist that agrees with you here, that's insulting that you'd lump such a blue-pilled moron in with someone like me.
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>>34307399
I would say it's a major element in some women, but not to all; people prioritize different things when looking for mates.

No, I grew up in a low income household surrounded by low income families. Not a single single person household in sight.

As someone who's not on government assistance, my taxes going to help support them is nbd, regardless of gender etc.
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If I follow my own logic then it seems as though capitalist society was built on a foundation of sexual communism. And our current socialist population is sinking into the sand of sexual capitalism.

Makes me kek
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>>34307452
What's the blue pill?
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>>34307469
That lower class men and low value/attractiveness "beta" men can get women totally fine.
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>>34307463
exceptions don't make the rules. The government should attempt to help the greatest number of people it can and that may mean that exceptions have to miss out.
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>>34307469

You're really very new to the internet, aren't you?
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>>34296697
I think you're the retard here
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>>34293214

You're fucking vegetables FFS. Uprise all you want, nobody will care any more than they do about anything else that you sperg about. In fact, will they even notice?
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>>34294788
Yes there are more virgins than ever before, male ones
When people say young people are having less sex they mean less young people are having sex
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>>34307417
Isn't the stressed importance of stem fields a relatively new thing? Like within the last twenty to thirty years? Shouldn't we wait a few generations before how much of an impact it has on fields gender influx?

I'm confused by what sexuality really has to do with the discussion, would you clarify?
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>>34307467
It's the normies getting what they deserve for wanting to have their cake and eat it too.

>>34307493
>being a utilitarian in current year
Off yourself inbred. Humans are not equal, they should help those most in need rather than blanket helping those who have other options for support, by which I mean women don't need to get shit because they can go marry a provider for gibs.
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>>34307469
Ignore the edgy matrix reference.

But the blue pill is supposed to be what everyone wants you to believe. They want you to believe it because it makes you easier to exploit.

The red pill is understanding that on a societal level we are fundamentally creatures of biology and not rationality. On the small scale rational can win. But we still follow animal trends and pretending otherwise makes you easier to exploit.

>>34307494
Actually try helping them out. I didn't actually find the red pill until I googled "beta bux" for a joke and found out this blue/red pill thing you lot keep mentioning was a whole ideology with 200 thousand subscribers.
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>>34307487
Gooootcha. Thanks anon.

Unoriginally.
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>>34307494
Not to the internet by far, but I've never looked into the redpill debate because it seemed ridiculous. Currently bored at work, might as well do some research.
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>>34307546
>was a whole ideology with 200 thousand subscribers

I kill a greater number if lifeforms superior to the 200k everytime I pour bleach down the toilet.
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>>34294788
Yep. Somewhere up above I mentioned how half of girls in the 15-17 age group who claim to be virgins are lying or having more than twice as much sex than 20-25 year olds.

>>34307537
Not utilitarian. helping the most people means a return to monogamy.
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>>34307546
I've heard mention of a black pill, what's the deal with that? Thanks again, myman.
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>>34307559
>but I've never looked into the redpill debate
It's not a debate, it's cold hard facts.
If you want to continue living a happy life thinking you can happily fulfill the purposes society told you you have (Marrying a loving wife, two kids a house and a white picket fence, etc. the 'American Dream') though, don't look into it because you'll realise it's not possible anymore. Those days are dead and gone and I can tell you, it's pretty depressing to discover that everything society promised you doesn't exist and the dreams you were working towards are all lies.
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>>34307587
I had never heard of it before.
Google leads me here:
https://omegavirginrevolt.wordpress.com/why-the-black-pill/

Cringey name but we gotta read it before dismissing it yeah.
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>>34307494

Female power is so universal that women shape the views of literally every male that exists. So even though every male is raised in a gynocentric society that priveleges women, he believes it when women tell him that he's more powerful and that men conspire together against women, etc. This is the blue-pilled 'natural' mentality that most men are born into. It makes them skeptical towards criticism of gynocentric lies because they believe it's the morally right thing to do, that men are dishonest manipulative and interested in their gender, when in fact the opposite is true.

This is what "Patriarchy theory" is, it's a complete inversion of the reality - in reality women are valued more and privileged and society revolves around their interests. Women AND MEN work together in the interests of women, but in general men rarely ever collaborate together as a 'gender', they are simply kept in competition with one another or see eachother as individuals and certainly don't conspire with them against women.

So when a male has a bad experience by hitting up against the reality - for example getting accused by a woman, or as he grows up and he realises that the preferential treatment women receive in school isn't limited to school and it extends to literally everything else - he comes up against psychological barriers that are painful to face. The metaphor of the 'red pill' is taken from the Matrix, because it most accurately represents what the male goes through - the painful awakening to reality which also involves an awareness that most people are still bluepilled, or he can attempt to lapse back into unconsciousness.
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>>34307598
To be fair most of trp has been hammered out to the point at which it probably looks like a circlejerk. The facts only took a few years of persistant effort to uncover.

The only reason it didn't happen sooner is because feminism predates the internet so they had a head start.
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>>34307598
See it's shit like that that makes it hard to take seriously. I enjoy understanding constructs because it's easier to exploit that way. I don't resent the people that can't or refuse to see the construct. It's like how atheists find religious people so offensive, it's not something I understand.
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>>34307611
Agreed. Again thanks again anon. You've helped immensely.
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>>34293248
it'll be more like the reverse.

1 girl for 17 men
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>>34293250
This
It is the only way

Eggy and Pizza are symbols of the future of r9k and there's nothing we can do it, even I browse pol but i'v accepted my fate
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>>34307666
No problem robotfriend.

It's been nice to have a "woman hate thread" with real discussion and a mild contempt for women at worst.

We'll probably hit the bump limit soon. Idk. This is my first time being deeply involved in a thread. But thanks for being open minded.
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>>34293248
Because Harems. Which are returning. 1 man has 17 fuck buddies while the other 16 men have none
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>>34293244
really makes the neurons go crazy
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>>34307790
As I said, I stayed out of most redpill debates/discussions, but I figured now would be a good time to breakdown the ideology so I can atleast understand where the motive raised.
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>>34306403

The funniest part is it's worse than that. In the past you as a single male worker could get a blue collar average job and with it afford a car, a house, and two kids.

Now they have you AND your wife working, and it's still a challenge to make ends meet if you both have blue collar average jobs.

The house is still largely the same, the car too. Sure technology improves, but it also makes things cheaper.

What's effectively happened is they've peddled feminism to push DOUBLE the amount of blood sweat and tears out of a family unit, in exchange for less than the same you had before.

This is a massive theft of labour.
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>>34293174
never understood this 80/20 thing. no fucking way is a top 20% male going anywhere near are bottom 20% uggo
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>>34293214
What effects women also effects men. I have heard of at least as many female virgins as male lately.
Standards will only leave you alone.
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>>34309152
>female virgins

HAHAHAHAHAHAAH

Get off this board.
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>>34296055
>the divide swings in mens favor once they reach an age where they are old enough to make decent money.
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>>34308759
It's a retarded meme by robots to try to convince themselves they are in the bottom 80% and not the bottom 0.01%.
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>>34296586
kys normalfag

Orogi
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>>34293174
>It's a bad thing that the rejects of society don't get to reproduce.

Fucking Kek. This is how it should be, for the good of the species.
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>>34304407
>>34304340
Yeah, isn't that anna's BF?

If it was reversed I'd say it makes sense.
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>>34306600
yeah, it's all in our heads, just like the gender pay gap ;-)
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>This post is original
lmao
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>>34307587
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tuf59ex-U0

this guy explains it pretty well imo

basically it's a philosophy of nihilism and defeatism

it may actually serve you better than sitting around trying to master autistic "game" and "pickup" tactics or thinking hitting a new PR on your squat will be what opens the door to you and makes you Chad
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>>34309614
Well don't complain when we kill you and start raping the women then.

Guns made this extremely easy.
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>>34309452
>>34308759
>never understood this 80/20 thing.
>no fucking way is a top 20% male going anywhere near are bottom 20% uggo
yes, that's part of the "80/20 thing"

you have downs?
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>>34293174
>The 89/20 Hypergamy

coping mechanism for the in reality only 3% of men who can't get laid
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>>34310376
>self-reported

Already disproved your whole post. And those statistics include older women. Millennials and Gen Z are completely different because our pop culture has radically changed.
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What has happened to /r9k/ ?

All this feels so fucking wrong. Can't they leave us alone ?
Internet was for people like us, before they took over. We said nothing.
Then we had this board, and they come here too ? Can normalfags be stopped ? Can't they find "funny pictures xDD" somewhere else ?
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>>34296696


Girls only do this when they hold no fear of losing you. Women are far more territorial than men when it comes to relationships (obviously, they carry a child for 9 months then tend to a toddler for many years so they need protection.

Whenever I start banging a new chick/FWB she will say she's super open and down for threesomes at first. The longer it goes on the more they start to change their tune, because they start to realize I could easily get up and leave them for the other girl. They don't care at first because they already accepted I will leave them eventually, but the more it drags out and they get attached, they try to avoid any possible threats that could end things, cuz they're trying to work towards locking down.


It's the same for dudes with multiple FWB's/harems. All the chicks know the dude isn't going to lock any of them down. So they play along with it to stick around because 1) it validates the guy and 2) they *might* be able to change his mind they think
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>>34307631
>Female power is so universal that women shape the views of literally every male that exists. So even though every male is raised in a gynocentric society that priveleges women, he believes it when women tell him that he's more powerful and that men conspire together against women, etc.
How is this much indoctrination possible? Apart from the fact I know it happens it seems preposterous.
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>>34310967
How could you convince a girl to be happy with you fucking other girls, either one-offs or as ongoing harems/FWBs?
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>>34307790
>>34308438
This was a good thread. Time for a new one to continue?
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>>34293214

Just accept it, goys. We're not snowflakes. Nothing we want will happen.

Is it down to genetics? Motivation? Modern society? It doesn't matter.
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>>34305844
>>34306073
>>34306232
>>34306441
>>34306477
>>34306584
>>34306701
>>34306810
>>34307174
>>34307279
Sad that /r9k/ falls for concern trolling this easily.
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>>34313470
>Just accept it, boys.
FTFY
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>>34293174
I highly suggest people to look up "vsauce 80/20 rule". That vid shows the order within chaos, that this rule is viable. Praise kek for his antics
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>>34294575
Probably the violence, poor saps and their aggressiveness
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>>34295163
>lack of sex education
>how to condom being tought in hs
>people still not knowing how to condom in 2016

Weeeeeew if thats the case then maybe homosexuals not taking mandatory classes is the problem
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>>34296553
>>34296911
Instead of religion, we should have a return to philosophy, such as Stoicism, which did preach the cultivation of virtue.

Philosophy can give the same effect of religion, without an official hierarchy trying to control.
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>>34304242
No, it isn't.

He just told you to fuck off.

If he said to fuck off because you are a woman and your opinions don't make sense, then it would be an ad hom.
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>>34311513
To me this is probably the default psychological human pattern. It could be something we evolved to instinctively accept because of the nature of our sexual dynamics. Doesn't mean it's a good thing.
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>>34312168
Be alpha. They are only territorial to betas that they locked into commitment because they are resources/emotional providers and that's something harder to attain than alpha's sperm, which is a given if you have a pussy and is above a minimum baseline of looks and health.
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>>34306919
>As I said prior, I don't mind my taxes going to support the less fortunate. I'd prefer it spend there as opposed to, say, military. Sorry, clown shoes.
I'd prefer it being spent on investments of my own choosing. Are you some lefty?
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>>34293174
>Good dick
>White man in pic

You're doing it wrong
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>>34310376
>coping mechanism for the in reality only 3% of men who can't get laid
Even though many men get laid in comparison to women, most men don't get laid as OFTEN as women do. Virginity doesn't matter, what matters is sex availability.
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>>34306317
>Financial independence is a great thing. Good for your mom.
It isn't independence when it's being paid with tax payers' money, you idiot.
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>>34306810
>As is attempting to change society so it forces women to settle down with unqualified mates simply for financial reasons.
Nobody is keeping women from studying and working, they are not entitled to the tax payer's money.
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>love
>good dick

The meaning of these words/phrases in this context are completely whacky
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why do you even care about that?
Ascend.
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>>34316510
>direct his resources somewhere more useful
I could direct my resources much better if I wasn't being forced to pay bachelor taxes.
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>>34315802
>Doesn't mean it's a good thing.
Ain't that the truth. But how can we convince people to overcome it?
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>>34304309
stream it live
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>>34294931
>not becoming the 89 instead
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>>34310351
there's not much difference between someone in 21st percentile of attractiveness and the 20th percentile
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>>34318156
Is this implying what I think it's implying?
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>>34293214
When pic related is invented, women will be useless.
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>>34315850
But women aren't actually ok with their alpha sleeping around. They just put up with it, while all the time hoping he will stop and pick them. Like >>34310967 said.
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>>34305742
I am, yes.

Most every revolution in history has been based around the idea of the people supporting the system being treated like shit for doing so and as such just feeling like cattle. The system then collapses on itself because the people supporting the system refuse to uphold it.

It's coming inevitably, the question is just whether it comes a little to fast and headstrong for its own good.
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>>34316404
You're arguing with someone who doesn't want to believe you.
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>>34293318
Frozen is a garbage movie
>>
It's more or less over for average or even slightly above average males. Just compare your life to the life of really good looking dudes, you probably knew one or two in your school and have seen how well-cultured girls became animalistic whores near them.
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>>34304939
rtp has a sub called RedPillWomen for women to discuss "red pill", where male posters are banned.

Sounds cucked.
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